IMPORTANT RESPONSE TO SOME OBJECTING COMMENTS For those who object to this video even posing the question of Kubrick being assassinated or who just assume, based on the vid title, that I've already bought into the theories ... I do say in the vid intro that Part 2 will outlne the counter arguments / evidence (and that vid will be as in-depth as this first part). Simply objecting to the question being raised is completely the wrong way to approach any controversial issue. In doing that you cast yourself, in the eyes of those who disagree with you, as being closed minded or even in denial. Calm, rational debate is the way to move forward. And remember, your opponents in an argument often feel as frustrated with you as you do them. And that applies equally to the often over-emotional responses of those who totally buy into the theories. When you call people shills or sheep etc, just because they raise arguments or questions inconvenient to your narrative, you cast yourself as being the one in denial too. I've also decided, since uploading this and getting very high view count engagement in just 24 hrs, that I'll most likely make a separate third part of the vid exploring some different possibilities that more plausibly explain the strange timings and the parallels with the film content regarding Kubrick's death (and yes, some of these factors are too strange to just completely dismiss). Like with most controversial conspiracy rumours, there are middle ground (and usually more complex) possibilities that better fit with the evidence ... but you won't find them if you jump straight to the most over-simplistic conclusions out of bias / preference. Keep yourselves open-minded and willing to question every single claim made, whether it's for or against your desired narrative. That's the approach any detective worth their salt uses. Thanks folks.
Hi Rob! I wonder, have you ever watched Robert Altman “Images” and it’s posible inspiration for the Shining? I’d love to know your take on that. Thank you for your amazing analysis as always.
If a individual is of age, and chooses to sell herself by means of making money (knowingly)… Then a judge and jury would likely view it as a consensual act because she’s a participant like the guy involved in arrangement with her. Basically, when an individual is of age, they should know better of what do at that point in life and own up to it. 😒
@@collativelearning Conspiracy theories are fun and a nice coping mechanism for dealing with what we don’t understand (much like mythology). That said, of course conspiracies have existed in the past, and continue to do so today (the oil industry’s effective propaganda against and suppression of clean energy being one example). But, people create patterns out of objects and events which aren’t necessarily related (i.e., constellations), factual evidence is not a requirement for belief in the credulous, and anyone with a small amount of imagination can create almost any scenario out of whole cloth. To sum up, most conspiracy theories are BS.
Hey Rob, what do you think about the letter theory from this guy? It would have been easy and small change and very effective. This is imaginable for me totally. Here’s a link to the theory. It’s new to me at least. Would be highly interested what you think about that? ua-cam.com/video/x7Odxcti_Og/v-deo.htmlsi=0wEke1g21sPVFHAq
@@ceevis7286 It's not that simple. Getting such services from an addict or someone in poverty has a coersion or blackmail element to it. Interesting you only view prostitution as a female profession. Men do it too. I'm not saying the person who sells themselves is absolved of all responsibility, but the punter bears their share of it too. Another factor is that some people who sell themselves like that are uneducated and sometimes mentally impaired by low IQ, addiction etc. If one seduces as an "adult" with a child's mental age I'm not sure the law would be ok with it. According to Sexual Offences Act 2003 in UK it's illegal if the other person "lacks the capacity to choose whether to agree to the touching (whether because he lacks sufficient understanding of the nature or reasonably foreseeable consequences of what is being done, or for any other reason)," there's a fair bit of interpative scope in that. But that's the technical legal argument. There's also the moral argument, which is often different to the written laws.
What bothers me about this comment section is, that in a world where a certain island operation 99% of people would have described as a crazy conspiracy theory was unveiled, everyone has a moral duty to question things more, not less.
I think it's highly unlikely that there is no connections with the film after learning about the scale and abundance of similar operations and networks. The idea that eyes wide shut is completely detached from the concept of elite rituals is more implausible than the opposite, especially when that is undeniably the entire focus of the movie.
@@pokechamp3987 YES!!! Kubrick was a master and a genius. Art reveals truths. And each of his films were meticulously researched and true. Most of the topics are simply too deep for most people to fully comprehend. This is why all of his films get better with time as people come to see what this man had been saying all along. Not to mention what a mastermind he was at workin within the system while upending it. The most compelling “evidence” would be Scientology could have found him dangerous. Keep in mind he was with Tom Cruise, their wonder boy, and he was having him and Nicole do “psychoanalysis” with him. Last I check Scientology frowned on that. The coincidence of his daughter leaving for Scientology is also interesting. And they are well known to use various measures to bully and keep people in line. Not to mention all the bohemian grove and E Island types. Oh wait and MK Ultra which was exposed in clockwork. Or making a mockery of the war machine, CIA and FBI. Dude was a TROLL and I love him for it. Anyone who speaks the truth will be a wanted man. If they killed him or not is beside the point. Kubrick knew very well these groups wanted him dead.
Most people would rather see the world as they pretend it to be, and not for what it is. It's strange to me that there has ALWAYS been a small group of people that covet power and money over all else, and they control the vast majority of people. From Kings and Queens to the Oligarchy we have now; nothing changes.
@@Psilocybin77 It depends on what you define as 'most people'. I don't think people around the world are really liking what's happening to their countries, from one degree to another.
Not a conspiricy guy, but the revelation of Epstien and Weinstein since EWS seems like there was something bad going on that maybe Kubrick was aware of due to being in the rich and fame club.
and as we know......Epstein was killed off for what he knew. there are parallels, The Epstein situation is really interesting because it is one were even the most sheep minded of people understand that he was killed off, it gave the normies a real look down the rabbit hole which is a good thing. the first event in history that did that for me was 911 when I finally researched it myself.
Why then was the rich and famous club in the film a direct lift from the 1926 novel set in Vienna? Schnitzler was hardly describing characters as specific as Epstein or Weinstein, but merely describing archetypes that exist wherever humans exist. None of this was thought up from scratch by Kubrick.
You do see whats going on in America Sean Combs Jeffrey Epstein Harvey Weinstein Bill Cosby etc You do see that Kubrick’s ideas/feelings/opinions as put forth in his movies is not so farfetched or off target Right?
Tom cruise agreeing to do it is fascinating to me. Did he do it as a sort of inter cult war? Does scientology do the same stuff? I assume so. Maybe it happens and he didn't know about it at the time. Maybe he was oblivious to the meaning of the movie and was wrapped up in some narrow egotistical view.
I finally watched it the other day for the first time, and it felt too real. It felt like it wasn’t even acted. Just felt like real life in an alternate universe where Tom and Nicole are a doctor and his wife rather than two famous actors. I guess that’d because of hindsight and our knowledge of Hollywood and Scientology now vs. when this movie came out.
Nicole Kidman’s father was being investigated in Australia for running an elite devil worshipping pedophile ring. He disappeared, ran to Singapore whilst being investigated, first reports said he had committed suicide, now reports state he had an accident. Nicole Kidman as his choice of actor was appropriate considering what her father was involved in.
Rob, you might be familiar with the movie Wag the Dog (1997), where Dustin Hoffman plays a director named Stanley, who is killed at the end (by the character played by Robert De Niro) because "Stanley" ultimately wanted to reveal that he was the director behind the entire psy-op within the story of the film Wag the Dog. Of course, this is not hard evidence, could be part of Kubricks paranoia, but... funny coincidence?
@@SteveRooster-km5rg The movie Wag the Dog could have been a "silent thread" to Kubrick from insiders/ high-up movie people who before 1997 must have known about Kubricks E W S project and him exposing the elite...
Are you trying to imply the moon landings were faked and Kubrick directed them? Even if that's true (which it fucking isn't), why would them need to kill him because of it? It ultimately doesn't matter if we landed on the moon or not.
Dozens of people were involved in the production of this film, including actors and production staff. Why not ask them if more scenes were filmed than those included in the final version?
wow it's like synchronicity.. i'm a musician who recently outed a convicted pdf-file publicly and am currently experiencing the backlash from it. i was co-managing a successful rave company for over a decade, and the aforementioned joined in along with a famous UA-camr with similar inclinations who i didn't want to be associated with, so i left and stated my reasons why. what you're touching on here in this video shows the complexity of a situation like this and the signaling by someone who sees something bad happening and wants to stop it but can't do it directly so he does it through his art and the backlash and understandable temporary paranoia about impending repercussions makes so much sense to me at this point in my life. thank you Rob, you've given me a sympathetic perspective at this time.
Those kind of creeps can't build or create,they can only take advantage. Sorry you lost all you built, in terms of infrastructure and community, but none of that means anything if you can't look yourself in the mirror.
He probably didn't like to fly because he knew that crashes (and tragic accidents) were/are the "establishment's" main way of disposing of naughty people.
Lol what are you talking about. Do you know how hard it would be to secretly bring down a modern passenger jet without leaving evidence of tampering? I am not saying it has never happened, but he probably didn't like to fly because he was a paranoid and neurotic man
Don't even try and take the piss. RA has done some of the best analysis of Kubrick films of all time. Don't agree with all of it, but his stuff is ALWAYS worth a watch and the good stuff is fascinating.
Workaholic who slept 3-4 hours a day, smoked for most of his life, was overweight, and just had his daughter leave the family to join Scientology. Stanley Kubrick’s heart gave up on him.
@@mishtaromaniello8295 wasn’t it Hemingway who was secretly followed by the FBI, who was painted as “insane” and “paranoid” and which eventually drove him to unalive himself? lol don’t know why I just thought of that.
@@jackharle1251 America essentially proved the majority of the public do not care who is on that list. As authorities did release never before seen/heard interviews with Epstein several months ago in which he states Donald Trump was not only a friend but his closest and perhaps best friend in the world. The American public knew this. And responded by putting that reprobate back in the White House.
The reason why I have a hard time believing he was killed by 'powerful shady people' is that they would never have allowed him to even start filming if they genuinely feared he was gonna expose something. This wasn't some small project involving unknowns it was a big project involving A listers Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. 'Powerful people' would most certainly have had an idea about it beforehand. You don't eliminate a threat after its done filming.
I'm still honestly baffled at what people think Kubrick was specifically exposing. Lets say in theory Kubrick knew about some secret sex cult in real life that disposed of one of their in-house 'workers' after a mysterious death and lets also say he had information this sex cult was actively trying to intimidate witnesses who knew about it. If Kubrick's film was suppose to expose this, he did a pretty poor job of pointing to anything specific enough to decode in a meanginful or concrete way. So why would he take the risk doing that but also refuse to fully directly expose it and instead just put a bunch of symbolic breadcrumbs hoping other people would figure it out. Part of me gets the fun people have trying to decode these things, but the part I don't get is when people take that gamified puzzle decoding into the realm of any kind of certainty.
@@AVeryHeavyAgenda You're missing a lot, each scene, each frame in that movie has tons of symbolism, the movie tells a story and there's also a hidden story, a hidden meaning, he outed Lex Wexner, Rothschild, Intel agencies blackmail, Epstein, pedophilia rings, not by name, but by hinting at it, really strongly. The less intelligent can't catch it but its all so clearly there.
@@florinivan6907 I really think if this video was better we wouldn’t be having this discussion. He left out so much info and failed to really explain the theory and why people would believe it. Kubrick had various protections including information on the elite that he used as leverage. He knew the only way they could silence him was by killing him. Remember Kubrick was a chess master. He was strategic and a mastermind at working the very system he sought to expose. He started under the Hollywood era of figuring out how to get content pass the censors and he did that with the content of his films as well… sneaking things in under their noses. I would not be surprised if he was part of MK Ultra type experiments himself. Likewise Diddy parties, bohemian grove and nasa as well as fashion industry all should be looked into. Check out how many famous people who were thought “paranoid” were actually being followed. So much more to this story…
He asked Steven Spielberg to direct AI for him... Most appropriate director shift ever... Eye Wide Shut opened my blind spot up to our local cult/occultist sociopaths... We miss you Stanley, until we meet again, mask free!!! ✌️👼🤟
@@jasonzacharias2150 Dude the video doesn’t even touch on the allegations and creepiness surrounding Spielberg and the added meaning of him directing ai
@@holden190 Kubrick chose them for exactly that reason. Here was the perfect Hollywood couple, the perfect facade. And then to see him use their real relationship and their ties to Scientology and Hollywood to create a movie that ultimately undermines and questions all those things was Stanley’s genius and added to the meta aspect of the movie and the psychological realness which worked on so many levels.
These types were big and all around in the 60s - re the Scientology link, L Ron Hubbards first wife was the girlfriend of a Jack Parsons who worked at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, who was a follower of Alastair Crowley and would have sex rituals to try and birth the “anti-Christ”. This sort of stuff was everywhere in the 60s counter culture movement - Kubrick would have been exposed to this, it almost seems like to me he is imagining what all those hippies grew up to be in the future…
@@holden190it's really subpar for Kubrick imo, Cruise is wooden as a door. But he didn't get final cut so you gotta cut him slack, knowing what a perfectionist Kubrick was.
Kubrick was quite paranoid allegedly, very intelligent obviously, very empathetic and maybe too sensitive, and these personality traits sometimes come with a certain degree of paranoia. I saw a documentary called "Stanley & Me", about a person that was his personal assistant for about 30 years, an Italian named Emilio D'Alessandro. He spoke about many stories and experiences with him, one of them about his love for animals, how he saved cats, dogs, donkeys, and adopted them at his England estate. He told a story about how one day, Kubrick saw outside his window a few dozen rabbits that were laying on his lawn, lots of them, laying still, and he immediately was convinced that someone poisoned them and thrown them in front of his house. His assistant had to reassure him that it was not the case, but he was not convinced until he clapped his hands and chased them away showing that they were just chilling near his house. He really believed that the rabbits were dead on his lawn. So, quite paranoid.
You sound very navie and uninformed. Do you know who he was affiliated with? Do you know the oaths he took? No, you being unaware doesn't make him paranoid.
I really don't believe he was murdered. However I strongly believe that Vivian's abrupt separation from the family really broke his heart, which ultimately heavily contributed to an already tired and stressed life.
On the plus side, I have it on good authority (none other than Lafayette R Hubbard himself; guy was a genius) that when she-Vivian-attains OT8, she'll literally be able to bend spoons. No, really...literally! Go sea org! ;p
OK but how do we even know that Stanley Kubrik was his real name? The people in hollyweird all play personas under ccontract, and a death is just a death of his persona for that contract. Hes probably back in iscrael kicking back and living the life sponsored by the US taxpayer.
As I said many years ago. And still say today. If the studio did re-edit Eyes Wide Shut, what they could not hide, or missed, was that on the doors of the room that holds the private party is a repeated pattern. Tom Cruise walks in to discover what's really going on in this scene. It's a reversed version of the Process Church of the Final Judgement's logo. (amended from "inverted" to reversed.) The Process Church of the Final Judgement were a spin off from L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology. The thing he came up with after he and Jack Parsons incarnated the Whore of Babalon into human vessel in 1946. And were successful, which Aleister Crowley was not happy about. They based themselves in a very rich section of London (Mayfair). Then flew off to Mexico between September - November 1966, returned, and then the following year started setting up offices in America (San Francisco / New Orleans / Los Angeles / New York) Their name comes up with Sirhan Sirhan, the alleged assassin of Robert Kennedy. Their name comes up with Charles Manson. Their name comes up with The Son of Sam. Their name comes up with Paul McCartney (the Beatle who disappeared between September - November 1966, while his Beatle pals in India and Spain could not go to these locations without the press knowing it. Because they were Beatles.) The Process insist one of their members was on the Beatles payroll. When the Process willingly went to the FBI with any information they could give them about their association with Manson, the FBI went nah, we're not interested. ODD COINCIDENCES As said before, McCartney is the only Beatle who can go incognito without being detected by paparazzi. He visits San Francisco in the first week of April 1967. When George Harrison visits that area in the summer of 1967 EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT. The only one who seemed to know McCartney went there was their longtime road manager and p/a Mal Evans. Mal Evans would be gunned down years later by police officers. One being Lieutenant Charles Higbie. He was the investigating officer on the Sirhan Sirhan assassination. Sirhan Sirhan's lawyer was George E. Shibley. This is the same lawyer that visited Charles Manson just before his release from prison at the end of March 1967. That Manson and McCartney are in the same city, both associated with the same organisation is not enough. McCartney is also associated to Doris Day's son, Terry Melcher, who would be Apple's distributor in America. And also associated to Manson. On August 9th, 1969, The Beatles are seen crossing Abbey Road. Behind them is a Volkswagen Beetle with the registration ending 28IF. On the same day, in a different time zone, Tex Watson and other Family members are driving over to Doris Day's old house on Cielo in a car with the registration ending 281P. The last gift Roman Polanski presented to his wife Sharon Tate on her birthday was a car with the registration PGY 330. The rumour that McCartney died and was replaced began in September 1966. What people fail to notice is the amount of people that started dying around The Beatles, close friends, business associates. Beginning in September 1966. By the time August 1967 rolls around, there are 10 people dead by SUICIDE CAR ACCIDENT OVERDOSE MURDER For this many people to die of unnatural causes within a given year DEFIES THE LAWS OF PROBABILITY. Especially people who all know The Beatles personally, but may not know of one another, or have relationships with them. It's the same with the 35 people who died after JFK's assassination. Especially if you knew Jack Ruby. It does not stop in August 1967. It keeps going. It takes their manager in 1967. Their lawyer is dead by 1968. McCartney's former girlfriend's father, Richard Asher commits suicide in April 1969. They don't find him in his own house for 3 days. The Process Church of the Final Judgement, is a name that not many people know, but many roads lead back to them. And as said. Kubrick put their logo, reversed, in his movie. And one can say it's just a pattern on a door. Where does the door lead to I say. It leads to a secret society that will do bad things to you if you don't play along.
Have you ever seen that meme with the guy from it’s always sunny in Philadelphia and he has the chipboard with all the pictures and yarn connecting the dots? I feel like this comment is the text version of that meme. But I’ll look it up bro!
The weirdest thing about the Process Church for me is how they eventually became the Best Friends Animal Society, and how they still had obvious huge influence in that form amongst Hollywood circles, proven by how they were the beneficiaries of the Hand In Hand Telethon, featuring all the top celebs of 2017, to help victims of Hurricane Harvey that devastated Houston
Jesus man, did you scrawl all that in your asylum wall too with the the te lead from a discarded pencil and the blood from the rat you killed in your cell? Smh
The JFK assassination was the dirty work of the Israel Lobby and the Jewish Mafiosi, which Jack Ruby - Rubenstein - was a part of. He ran a strip club as well as being a hired gun. A gangster for Zion. Sam Bloom, who was the chairman of the host committee for Kennedy's visit to Dallas, was undoubtedly involved as well. There's a lot more to this, so I recommend the book The Unspoken Kennedy Truth by Laurent Guyénot.
I greatly respect your central premise here. I'm noticing a trend of UA-camrs who are disappointed with the conspiracy drivel my generation splayed across the platform when we were younger and want to create more nuanced treatments of the actual salient topics buried within it. I appreciate it enormously.
On the topic of Kubrick's health, I haven't seen anyone bring up that autobiography by Kubrick's long time driver/personal assisant. Italian guy, I forget his name and the name of the book. I read it years ago so I'm going on memory. What I do recall is that he had a sort of falling out with Kubrick for a number of years during the 90s, then came back to work for him during the shooting of EWS. So he was working for Kubrick on a personal day to day basis up to the end. He only wrote from his own observations, but the clear impression to me was of an aging man who was burning both ends of the candle stick with his crazy work scheduling, and had no sense of personal care and even being forgetful and negligent about basic aspects of hygiene and having down time. In other words, Kubrick became the example par excellence of no work-life balance. At his age, especially if there were pre existing risk factors cardiac wise, he truly seemed to be a ticking time bomb.
I havent read the book but other than his seemingly unhealthy lifestyle choices some of things he's described as doing sound pretty whacky, like this infamous story from Full Metal Jacket "While location scouting for the film Stanley Kubrick was driving his wife's new SUV around the countryside with cinematographer Douglas Milsome and R. Lee Ermey as passengers. At one point Kubrick noticed a potential location out his window, and became so distracted describing to Milsome how he wanted the location used in the film that he crashed the car into a six foot deep ditch, rolling the SUV onto its side. Undeterred, Kubrick continued talking about the location uninterrupted as they climbed out of the car and walked back home."
@@AVeryHeavyAgendaKubrick's obsessiveness and lack of social graces make me wonder if he was on the spectrum. I heard that prior to reading the Shining and enjoying it, he kept getting to the second chapter of other books and then literally throwing them against the wall in disgust.
@@ryanjacobson2508 the idea of someone being high functioning autistic was definitely a thing during Kubricks time but I don't think i've ever heard anyone suggest it before but does seem pretty plausible. Not that its an uncommon thing but he also refused to fly in planes until he passed away, He might have broken that rule a couple of times though i'm not sure
I remember hearing something similar that maybe one of his daughters said. That she had never seen him so burnt out after filming was completed so while his death was sudden, it wasn’t surprising.
@@katskillz Leon Vitali was a true friend until the end. None of this bullshit is true. If someone had a falling out, their whole story should be suspect if you're using any common sense. This Kubrick conspiracy is just stupid. He was 70 yrs old, dying from a heart attack is perfectly consistent with his age and health history. Heart attacks are ALWAYS sudden. What the hell are you people talking about? How do you permit yourselves to be so gullible just to believe some inane conspiracy theory made up by a jackass who probably made it up as a jest. If you believe he was assassinated on any level, you're a fkucing moron.
The little girl walking away at the end as been sold into the cult by the parents. You are blind like other people who are sheep being led to slaughter by the elites.
Peter Sellers was apparently obsessed with the occult. Having done two films with Kubrick, maybe he let him in on some going-ons in the "occult scene"? Conversely, people tend to forget that EWS is a pretty faithfully-followed "cover" of Arthur Schnitzler's "Traumnovelle", that Kubrick had wanted to make for over three decades.
Years ago I watched a docu with Kubrick discussing why he filmed the Moon landing and he called it his greatest film 🎥 that he couldnt take credit for .
The fact that Rob has made it clear what he believes regarding this theory makes it hard to think that this will be a balanced assessment. Rob doesn't believe that there is missing/deleted footage, so it will be difficult for him to take a balanced approach to this idea. Personally, I think there's something to it (the possibility of missing footage and also of Kubrick being taken out). I still enjoyed the video and look forward to part 2!
Why would you expect a balanced debate from a guy _monologuing?_ Don't you need at least two blokes for that? And why would you value an investigation that is biased towards being inconclusive (i.e. balanced)? This sounds so asinine to me but I love the idea of not seeing it that way. Rob's just thinking aloud, that's all he does. He puts all cards on the table: it doesn't make sense to him, but anyway, let's go through this step by step and see what we see. There's no theater, just thinking. Plain old boring thinking. Sometimes you start by genuinely having no idea, sometimes you have an intuition, sometimes you even have a believe. But once you start thinking through, it doesn't matter. You go over the information carefully and ask the questions, and try to answer these questions. I swear some people are simply put off by the sight of another man thinking...
To ensure balance I've strived (and i'm confident I've succeeded) in making a much stronger case for the assassination and deleted sordid scenes theories than any other source out there. If you can find anyone who makes a better case for it (without making wild-imagination claims that they provide no evidence for) then please point me to it. I read something like 100 postings and articles, taking the best bits and even adding some research of my own from the Kubrick Archives, to prop the theories up as much as possible within the confines of evidence. This isn't a deceptive exercize. I use this approach in all of my work. I deliberately try to make the strongest case for and against an interpretation in turns before I publish my conclusion. Which is what everybody should do to overcome personal bias. But people don't tend to do this. They tend to pick a desired narrative first then cherry pick and ignore evidence and assumptions to fit what they want to believe. This is true of believers AND debunkers in many big debates. However, if I am being biased in this opening vid then you can demostrate it by pointing to key innacuracies and ommisions in how I've covered the topic so far. But, looking through the comments, virtually nobody is fact checking or disagreeing with any of the statements about evidence i've made, even though it's a partially adlibbed summary. Virtually nobody is fact-checking because I've sourced near enough everything (see the PDF article version for even more sources).
@varvarvarvarvarvar - ok, smart ass, debate wasn't the right word. A balanced view/assessment of both sides. And I didn't say I valued it, I said I enjoyed it. I also didn't say it would be biased towards being inconclusive. How can it be inconclusive when we haven't seen part 2 yet..? Rob has a different view, I didn't say that view was inconclusive, just that it was opposing the ideas put forth in this video. That's all. Rob's not just thinking aloud, and that isn't all he does. He shares his views and opinions, which are welcome and helpful when watching his videos. What are you talking about..? I respect Rob and wasn't put off at all by his thinking. What a strange comment
@collativelearning - I totally understand, Rob. And what you've said makes perfect sense. I wasn't having a go at you in any way, I just knew where you stood with this theory. Evidence is crucial in supporting any theory. You're absolutely right about that. But the old saying "there's no smoke without fire" - sometimes rings true as well. These theories/claims had to have come from somewhere. I'm more thinking about the missing footage and Kubrick's final cut being tampered with, which I find interesting. I hope Vivian does an interview soon to give her thoughts on this. That would be very interesting!
@@collativelearning no this was a fail but glad you’re confident 👎. I would check out Why Files. They do a great job of what you were maybe attempting here.
@@alborland5675 people always suggest these things, as if that hadn’t been thought of before, but I doubt people want to run their mouths when there are such stakes
He was charged with having human hunting parties. He was very nasty. Huge p dough. It's so odd that Nicole played that role. No coincidence. I can't get past the story of Tom and the fish. 🤢🤮
“Cult & Occult” is by Peter Brookesmith (Francis King only provided the introduction) is the book referenced in the video. No eBook out there. Book sells for anywhere from £130 to £350. My library network has it and I reserved it (who knows when I will get it).
25:30 Kubrick used to say that his movies can be interpreted in layers. I'm sure you remember him saying that about 2001. In Eyes Wide Shut the daughter gets taken away in the end, and on the surface level it can be interpreted that she's being taken to be sacrificed just like the prostitute was. The interpretation that it's about Kubrick's own daughter is also very plausible at the same time, but both are probably true. It makes the ending scarier too.
Kubrick's daughter became a Scientologist after EWS, ironically. I say ironically because obviously Tom Cruise is not only a Scientology victim, he's by far the most powerful Hollywood celebrity promoter of the cult. I also say ironically because IMO there's a good chance that Kubrick chose Cruise & Kidman to star in EWS in order to troll one or both of them; something I believe he's done several times in the past, with actors (Jack Nicholson in The Shining*), and collaborators (Arthur C. Clarke, on 2001 A Space Oddyssey**). Or possibly in order to de-program Cruise from Scientology, or...something. * Watch the behind the scenes footage shot by Kubrick and his daughter: Nicholson comes across as a serious douchebag, repeatedly gesturing at and doing various things involving his crotch, making suggestive comments, and in one scene, he completely ignores his co-star Shelly Duvall when she arrives on set one morning. ** Clarke was a massive pedo boy lover. I honestly believe he got into scuba diving (making documentaries on it, and creating a scuba diving business) in order to follow little boys around for hours, staring at their butts, legs, and in between their legs, as they moved them slowly up and down to kick their feet, from the perfect vantage point. Sounds weird, I know, but trust me, if you go down the Arthur C Clarke rabbit hole, it won't take long before you've amassed incontrovertible proof that he *_LOVED_* little boys. The death record of the son of the man who rented a house on his property to Clarke (a boy at the time), is a good place to start. Clarke is listed as his wife (?!). Quite the rabbit hole, eh? ;p
A direct link between Helena and the prostitute is the stuffed tiger on her bed, like the stuffed animals we see in the toy store. Likewise rewatching it I think it’s hinted at that the prostitute is only on the street to try to get some extra money to buy gifts for her child and that she is not a seasoned professional, her roommate who looks like her is however. Essentially we see these two woman as mirror opposites in switched “costumes.” The prostitute kisses like it’s a high school make out session (I thought hookers didn’t kiss on the lips) and she doesn’t keep track of time. She is too innocent to even say dirty words to bill regarding what she “recommends.” Compare this to bill’s immediate groping of her roommate (the real prostitute according to this theory). She knows Bill would be easy money so she is reluctant to tell him the truth. Making the prostitute another female sacrifice in the movie.
Eyes Wide Shut has become one of all time favorite films the older I get, and I overall sense I get from people who keep claiming that Kubrick was killed and it was re-edited is that we were denied a better movie. EWS has gotten its flowers in recent years but for a while it was seen as a disappointment, at least standing in the shadow of Kubrick’s filmography. Thats where I think all this skepticism is coming from ultimately in my opinion.
@@CRT4Dummies can you elaborate? the implication is he revealed something extremely specific that felt threatening to this supposed group, and yet nobody seems capable of naming a specific group, sex cult, secret society or even a private club of any kind. If your logic extended to other filmmakers why have many of them who have made way more specific exposures of groups like the Bohemian grove or french freemasonry lived long after the release of their films exposing these things? I mean one could say the same thing about Alex Jones, the first person to film the Cremation of Care play at Bohemian Grove, he did that in 1999 if i remember correctly. Now dude is on ozempic and getting makeovers from navy seals over 20 years later, but the funny twist on that is Jones later admitted he was 'setup' as a prank and that people in the Grove wanted him to leak it in order to fuel conspiracy theories which might be incidentally one of the most honest / truthful things spoken out of his mouth in his entire career.
The genius of Eyes Wide Shut is that it comes across as anti-climatic the first time you see it because the primary actions take place off screen. The viewer has to be able to pick up on what's being inferred to really understand it.
It absolutely is a dud, a clanger, in the Kubrick corpus. Jason Horsley's a good source to validate this opinion if you're inclined towards my opinion, by which I mean THE TRUTH ;p
There is a better Christmas movie dealing with the same themes; identity, split personas, masks... it even features a masquerade ball. It's called Batman Returns.
How odd, that movie also has elites who have a scheme to drain society under the guise of improving it, for which they recruit the extremely perverted leader of a shadowy group that abducts children, so they can corrupt the political process and also blackmail and frame and kill their opponents (and I think the scheme to frame Batman with the Batmobile was also supposed to end with his death?). Catwoman's story is also odd, she apparently dies after learning the truth, and apparently dies again when killing Max, both incidents having a black magic implication and resembling an initiation and a sacrifice respectively.
You made a video a few months ago, where you explore how Nicholson owned the house where the Polanski crime was committed. The fact that he was in Chinatown, where the main plot involved incest. And in the video, there is also a reference of the 1975 One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest, where his character was sent to prison for sleeping with an underage girl. "Doc, she was 15 years old going on 35 doc"...and it gets even more explicit, as you already know. And the creepy sexual coincidences for Nicholson do not end there. When Jack Nicholson was 37 years old, he discovered through an investigation that the woman he thought was his older sister, June, was actually his biological mother. June had given birth to Nicholson at a young age and allowed her parents to raise him as their child to avoid societal judgment. This revelation was confirmed after both June and her mother had already passed away, leaving Nicholson to process the truth without being able to discuss it with them.
I thought the boy from the beach boys owed that house before Polanski bought it. That guy was involved with the Manson lot and they would take over his house and he had to leave to get away from them.
@@AlabamaWyatt Nicholson was known for throwing the most wild drug fueled multi-day parties in Hollywood. Sound like anyone? Think you’re on to something.
Nice conspiracy theory, but the truth is freemason lizard people had him murdered for exposing their underground satanic child sex cults. I use Occam's Mallet. If I can hit it, it's true.
In the scene where main character sees the couple on the balcony, the female character got a tear tattoo on the mask. That tear tattoo symbolizes (in this context not prison context, for example) that you had to do horrible things to do horrible things to your children
The tear- tattoo some people are wearing in real life means they have done something they regret. Mostly it's a drug- addiction, sometime it s m* rder . That why lots of prisoners are wearing one...
The burden for "he was killed" seems much higher than the burden for "they edited the film so Tom and Nicole's erotic thriller wasn't all about pedophilia"
They are genociding society as we speak and you tools think it is so outrageous that they would take out a director that went too far, ok kiddies, enjoy what is left of your life in neverland.
@@andrelegeant88 unfortunately the problem is the person who made this video was really shoddy. There is a much better case to be made but he missed it. Kubrick and his ties to the elite go way back. He most likely had leverage on them which is why they even let him work. But he knew any chance they had they would kill him. It is worth actually looking into how many famous people the FBI or CIA have tracked and assassinated who were called “paranoid” for telling the truth. Look into MK ultra as well and get back to me bud
😆 Am glad you said that, cos I've seen him a few times myself, in the Rough Trade record shop down the road. I asked for his autograph but he made me ask him "with more passion" and as if I was "a genuine collector of autographs" about TWENTY times. It was only when I almost couldn't hold the tears back any longer that he eventually gave me a very badly written "Steve" on a tissue. But I know it was him really. He didn't have a Scouse accent.
@@Doomer1984 I saw him too, when he was younger, a few years ago, just before lockdown in Sainsbury's in a small West Sussex town... I did a double take!!! 🤣🤣
@@Doomer1984 I love spotting 'celebs' or a lame, third-rate 'lookalike' 🤣 Sometimes just the hair. So that would be a bloke wearing "John Pertwee's wig." Looks nothing like him but his hair is a deadringer!!! 🤣
He was not prepared to make the movie at that time because the technology in film making had not reached the point to make it believable enough for Stanley. Therefore he passed it along. So goes the lore anyway.
Thank you for all of your videos, Mr. Ager. Long time subscriber, first time commenter. Just wanted to point out that it's not that people don't want to read anymore; there's just not enough time in the day. For instance, I never watch anything unless I'm also doing something else that doesn't interfere with listening/watching. I don't have the time to read an article about Kubrick, but I have the time to watch a 35min video over a meal or two. Thanks again!
Kubrick clearly loved to screw with people. I haven't heard anybody put this out there before, but what if this whole topic was semi engineered by Kubrick knowing he might not live much longer so there's this internal conspiracy theory debate about what really happened? Like what if he intentionally created the conditions for this type of debate to happen?
I don’t think he had this in mind but Kubrick’s whole schtick was making the audience think. Nearly everyone of his movies have ambiguous endings and are left up to interpritation
dont know if you are familiar with Robert Anton Wilson the author of the Illuminatis trilogy but most people including himself portrayed the books for a long time as an obvious satire/parody of the paranoid free associtive conspiracy brain and right before his death Wilson made several comments implying that the Illuminati controlling rhe world was actually not satire, that it was true. To me it looks like he thought it would be fun to troll people right before he passed, to others it looks like an official confirmation.
@ZachisntReal surpressing a major movie by a leading director might well be practically impossible. Movies require scores of various professionals to make. There is no way to wipe away the fact that something was created from every human memory. Moreover, in trying to hide something, you often draw more attention to it (Streisand effect). Perhaps the outcome of having the movie made public was unfortunate and less than ideal for them, but there was no practically achievable better outcome. Liquidating the creator of that movie, to make sure there are no further projects, might be the best that was achievable. 🤷🏼♂️
@@ZachisntReal they were sloppy, destroying the film after killing Kubrick would've put a lot more suspicion on them and we would've had some arrests by now. I guess just killing him, butchering the film and allowing it to be seen was the only way out.
@@collativelearning Interesting, thank you. I am currently working on a physics/high strange project and I thought about him the other day and how ground breaking his two TV series were in the '80s. He had friends' in high places. And yes, I heard the rumours about 15 years or so as well...
My big question that I always ask in regards to this movie is; WHY does Kubrick focus on subtle yet clear themes of Child “S” x Trffking in relation to a seemingly obvious critique towards the upper echelons of elite society? That to me seems to be the most important thing to take away from Eyes Wide shut (and again, think of how the title of the movie interfaces with this theme and what Stanley is really trying to imply we are blind to), and how the power of the elite knows no bounds, in the case of Nick Nightingale, Mandy, and Dr Bill himself. And as you’ve mentioned yourself before I believe rob, almost all of Kubrick’s films from the 50s onwards have addressed the theme of power and the way it corrupts people.
"Room 237 suggests that Stanley Kubrick admitted to faking the moon landing through symbolism in The Shining, particularly in Room 237. The timing of the release of Eyes Wide Shut coinciding with the anniversary of Apollo 13’s launch is also seen as intentional, hinting at Kubrick’s connection to NASA and the moon landing conspiracy."
There's also the strange stuffs with Vitali, his long time assistant. Who played the masked dark master, and was even mentionned on the newspaper of the murder of the prostitute. He did the final cut after Kubrick's death. He got some rights to the movie IIRC. He died in 2021. Why was Vitali all around this movie??? I've tried to look for Vitali's on the net, but could not find anything, except he was his assistant since the movie 2001. Maybe he was some kind of spy for the studios to keep Kubrick in line, I don't know.. But specially the fact that his name was written in the newspaper in the movie... It's very strange. Also the magic box we see in the finals scenes at the shop, is a very rare one. It's made by the magic society, and King Charles is an official member of that society. Aaaand here we are with prince Andrew, Epstein, etc... It's interesting how many strange things you can connect with this movie...
The subject that the movie revolves around, the elite closde clubs with elaborate rituals and access tiers, has been created by royalty as a tool for informal management of a centralised state. That's why it's a matter of public discussion in France, the birthplace of a modern centralised state. Vitali was definitely an English curator over Kubrick but he was, by all accounts, a friend as well. Kubrick's portrayal is a caricature anyway thus it wasn't problematic. If they wanted to shut down the production, they had YEARS to do it.
@@varvarvarvarvarvar But if Kubrick has dirt on certain folks they might be afraid to outright shut him down and risk being exposed. How do you think Diddy and Epstein stayed out of trouble? They fed info to the CIA to use as leverage for the global elite to play their power games
A very thorough and thoughtful analysis. I will say that Frederic Raphael is not exactly a trustworthy source as to many of the claims he makes about his work with Kubrick because there is really no independent and trustworthy individual to corroborate those claims. His book reads like that of a jilted ex-employee that is covering for someone that's still in the organization. At least that's the vibe I often got while reading his book.
Definitely. I thought it was a horrible book in places. In his defense Kubrick boxed him into a corner with blindfolds, which he did with virtually every "co-writer", but ... Raphael signed the contract and he got paid. Don't like the conditions, don't sign up!!!
@@collativelearning Raphael's jealousy stems from his own unfulfilled career as a writer. He was supposed to be a "next big thing" in the literary world and it never happened. He was brought in by Kubrick as an employee and not the Equal intellect which Raphael clearly thought of himself. It built resentment. Stephen King went through the treatment and response. Malcolm McDowell did to a degree as well. Raphael's post-mortem attack reveals his actual character. Which is Garbage.
There IS some corroboration. Michael Herr's book Kubrick was written and released to give an alternative view by one of his other collaborators. And it unwittingly confirmed every single trait Raphael alleged. Herr's book was an agenda driven own-goal. Bottom line was they both considered it bad behaviour, but Herr thought it the cost of greatness and Raphael didn't. There is no reason to dispute anything Raphael said.
@@geoffreywillars1032 "There is no reason to dispute anything Raphael said" < Unless both Raphael and Herr were not entirely independent and shared the same overseers.
@miltonbates6425 I think that's the point though. Herr WASNT independent. He wrote it at the behest of the family to counter Raphael as far as I know. That the book was 'authorised' was confirmed when an abridged version was released by the Estate as part of a Taschen book.
Kubrick died exactly 666 days before the first day of 2001. Let's keep in mind that 2001 was his most iconic movie. And 666 is obviously a number with a lot of satanic symbolism. It may just all be a big coincidence, but what are the odds?
I'm not disagreeing but wow, it's amazing he was as productive as he was. Amongst Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, Clockwork Orange, Shining, Eyes Wide Shut...any of those would be any other directors most iconic films...just an incredible filmography, and the best ever probably...maybe rivaled only by Tarkovsky or Bergman or Truffaut but Kubrick was really on another level completely.
you see, this is how they do it, they cover it up so well yet they leave little clues like that to subliminally tell you that YES, THEY DID KILL HIM AND THEY'LL KILL YOU IF YOU TRY TO STOP THEM. everyone needs to wake up, these aren't coincidences!
@@michaelbiland5575 Right, what influence have Js and Christianity ever had on the world? Not worth talking about it... lol. Not that I would credit the theory either, mind. But people do use symbolism even if you don't find that symbolism credible.
In the post Epstein world, his same associates and confidantes are still rich, still in power and still free (except Ghislaine) No cabal of PDFs need to kill people when they can get one of their own elected President
@@gregbors8364 Yeah I never bought into most of them. But some good starter ones are; FBI murdered MLK, CIA murdered JFK, Jeffery Epstein “Suicide”, The Diddy List & of course Kubrick’s Death.
Hey Rob! Great Vid as always, thanks for that! But NO mention of where some of the Scenes in EWS where filmed and which Family the Manor/Castle belongs to??? Greetings from Germany
I believe Stanley Kubrick passed away due to old age. I get the impression he hung on to complete his final film. With that in mind, i guess Stanley knew, in himself, he had nothing more to give. Eyes Wide Shut was a movie on Stanley's mind for many many years. I wish Warner Bros. would release Eyes Wide Shut in 4K and add the missing 20 minutes as extra material.
I love the theories about Kubrick taking on the elite but if the studios cared that much about what Kubrick was revealing in Eyes Wide Shut, they would have buried the film.
@@elconquistador364 Or it could just be used as a Get Out of Jail card for weak arguments. If they wanted to reveal things from time to time they could just as easily let the film stand. Besides, child sex trafficking is already blatantly presented in the film already.
Maybe he made the suspicious edits on purpose and then punched out voluntarily, in order to create the exact atmosphere there currently is around his final film. That would be pretty genious.
He used to regularly walk around our neighborhood really early in the morning with virtually no security around him, taking morning strolls around in shades and regular relaxed clothing, I guess no one recognized him or I'd also like to think they knew but also respected his peace and privacy.
It was reported after Kubrick's death that the studio hired Steven Spielberg to look at it. He removed at least one shot, which apparently had a reflection of a boom operator in the bathtub faucet. It seemed far fetched at the time that Kubrick wouldn't have noticed that.........
why does that seem far fetched when Barry Lyndon one of his arguably most masterful movies that was the hardest to shoot has at least one noticable flood light stand rig pouring throigh one of the windows in the last 3rd of the movie? not saying you need to edcuate yourself more on Kubrick but it wouldnt hurt to watch some of Cinema Tyler who points out that mistake and more
but just to not sound like a full blown a-hole, I too probably would have thought the same thing just based on how much time Kubrick spent setting up his shots and the amount of takes he was knownt to do, the Barry Lyndon light mistake was pretty shocking when I first saw it
Been watching you for years. You have my favorite UA-cam channel. Talking about things I’ve learned from your channel about cinema is the best way to deepen a conversation. Thank you for what you do.
This is not connected with the video but I just want you to know that I enjoy your website years ago before youtube. I always regularly checked it out. It was wonderful time, and seeing you make videos now is really an experience. Always love your insights.
Kubrick was the 70 year old man, a chain-smoking workaholic who never took vacationd. He led a sedentary life and was pushing himself to meet a deadline for his studio. An associate of his was shocked to see how tired, old, and pale Cooper was during filming. He was not a healthy man. I think the big "mystery" surrounding Kubrick's death is that it didn't happen during production. Best wishes from Vermont ❄️💙❄️
people love to ignore strange coincidences and focus on the conclusion they believe to be more tame and friendly to their world view. Can't allow the cage to get rocked can we?
@@tomverlaine728 no need for the supernatural or fantastic and mysterious entities. Plain and mundane human cruelty is enough to scare the normies into rationalizing crazier things still
@@tomverlaine728 this is to say, what fantasies people will create and reach for skyward, to avoid facing the hard truth at eye level, are more of a 24/7 X-Files episode than the actual reality they exist in. MANY examples.
You know how it’s annoying when people think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy theory? Rob is annoying sometimes because he believes nothing is a conspiracy theory. I roll my eyes more at people who don’t believe in anything.
You are right. Some people believe everything is a conspiracy and others believe nothing is. It takes intellect (and sometimes a lot of research) to figure out the truth.
Roger Avery said that he had a script on set with narration scenes that were supposed to be in the film. Shooting script. But we have no idea if he would add those in or not. By the way, the first adaptation of the novel was made into a movie in the 60s, and there was narration in the book. But it doesn’t mean Stanley Kubrick would use it in his film.
That draft of the script is online, you can read it. It does have a narrator. But Kubrick's script for 2001 also featured a narrator, which is non-existent in the movie. You'd think by now people would know that for Kubrick books, scripts, plots were never a blueprint, just a guide.
Apparently David Lynch recently revealed that he suffers from some illness now due to decades of smoking (He turns 79 in a couple of days) Sad to hear. edit: It is emphysema
@@colewilliams9432Heavy drinking is MUCH worse than smoking. For starters, Smoking appears to have positive cognitive benefits, while alcohol literally destroys brain cells.
What i find concerning in the comments here, as with most comments sections is the amount of people who state emphatically that they know what happened, and that what they believe must be the absolute truth, when it is patently obvious that it's impossible for them to know either way. People are strange creatures.
I just had a lightbulb moment - The Somerton Mansion is named after the Somerton man. Theres a wiki on it but in short hes a John Doe body who was never identified. No ID, all tags had been removed from his clothing. And he was wearing a nice suit.
Respectfully, people die. There is a mental illness involved with celebrity deaths. Respect the man by admiring his art. I do blame his family for some of the conspiracy behind his death. Being so private about it, considering who he was, just added fuel to the fire.
I did years ago and forgot about her until it was on my timeline again and I think I was the first person to respond and asked a question or two about his movies and it was pleasant enough and even joked about the Single release of the drill instructor song I have owed for decades. the things she posts are really entertaining but sad at the same time and really out there, so I stopped responding as I couldn’t really say what I wanted to say about these tweets posted since she got back on Twitter as I really couldn’t be arsed with it.
Many years ago, Rob, you put out a video that briefly went into this subject. You raised the point that it would make no sense for a powerful, clandestine group to kill Kubrick as a result of him making Eyes Wide Shut and then allow the film to come out anyway.
I could pen a couple of scenarios where it could make sense. But youtube is really fussy on the subject and always snips my comments that go into details of fm. Personally though, I think he just died from not taking care of himself. You always hear that story passed around like some sort of urban legend, a gym ghost story to entertain a dead conversation. It's like people become 13 when they relay it. It's very amusing to watch, actually, when even people like Tarantino do it.
I think it's strange that this video is presented by young Paul McCartney ( i assume an AI clone), who of course has his own conspiracy theory about having died and been replaced by a clone. (obligatory lol, /s, and rofl for those who think I am serious).
I've watched dozens of videos on Stanley Kubricks life, and his film direction, some of which was required reading/viewing, in film school. You did a masterful job on this interpretation. One of our film school visiting presenters brought up this topic, when talking about art getting TOO close to reality. 😊
I think Kubrick certainly knew things. Such as the mention of droogs drinking Drencrom, in Clockwork Orange, which is short for something else which people might have heard of in recent years. And of course the subplot in The Shining regarding Danny's abuse. And in Dr Strangelove, Jack D. Ripper talks about flouridation of water.
Drencrom was in the book though, that came out well before all the Qanon bullshxt. Furthermore Adrenochrome is neuro and cardiotoxic. Why would anybody want to feel like they’re going crazy and have a heart attack? It makes no sense at all. Also the amount of blood you’d have to drink to get a dose of adrenalin would make you physically ill before you’d feel anything.
Yep, he took his secrets to the grave. He probably attended a masked ball or two during his ascension, but maybe not. Could’ve just known fellow directors, actors, etc that attended them. Regardless, he was well aware of the underpinnings of Hollywood, big money players.
@@Psyfi85 I think there's more meaning to casting Tom Cruise in the role as well, perhaps even Tom himself & Nicole weren't aware of how purposeful it was at the time and remains today. It's more of a statement, beyond simply "a hot popular real life couple" that some say
What are you talking about? lol "Drencrom" is literally in Burgess's 1962 novel as the other option to drink besides Moloko Plus. It didn't come from Kubrick. It came from Burgess's novel. And the "subplot" of Danny's abuse by his alcoholic father is literally in Stephen King's novel, as well. "Strangelove" was ALSO a novel. Do you even know these films are based on books? Good grief. lol
Stanley Kubrick's daughter Katharina Kubrick, and grandson Joe. AMA Some of the movie lovers of r/stanleykubrick asked us to do an AMA. So here we are. I (Joe) will be doing the typing. We're here for an hour or so now, then we'll be back later this evening.
Was Eyes Wide Shut complete when Stanley passed away? Did he take part in the censoring of the orgy scene, with the digital people? Katharina: Yes he was. The censoring was done after his death as he had an agreement with Warner Brothers to produce an R rated movie. I am sure that he would have re-edited the offending scene to remove the 'thrusting' etc that was so offensive.
@@poindextertunes Yeah that's the story I got from Jan Harlan when I asked him at a live event (video is on here), but the theories about a re-edit refer to completely different things, a lot more sinister.
What was Kubricks favourite movie to make? And what was his least? Which did he enjoy the end results the most? Did he ever mention 2001s meaning(s) and the riff with Steven King? Also, how did he feel about Life? Was he an atheist?
Has anyone tried to track down the actress who played Tom Cruise's daughter to ask her if they filmed those scenes like the ending where she supposedly was taken away?
@@willyupshaw That's the usual arrogant stuff I see. "I'm a very deep and instinctive person and I'm tuned in to things others less intuitively gifted cannot see". Nonsense. I've seen all Kubrick's films excluding the first two. Kubrick left clear images for us to interpret in his films, the most notable of course being 2001. In the final sequence he gives us plenty of time to look at the details in the strange otherworldly room. As in all his films he has quite a leisurely pace (some even criticise him for that). He never presents something that calls into question whether we've seen it or we haven't. He allows us the leisure to ponder what we have seen and put our own interpretation on it. I think you misunderstand the type of filmmaker he was.
IMPORTANT RESPONSE TO SOME OBJECTING COMMENTS
For those who object to this video even posing the question of Kubrick being assassinated or who just assume, based on the vid title, that I've already bought into the theories ... I do say in the vid intro that Part 2 will outlne the counter arguments / evidence (and that vid will be as in-depth as this first part). Simply objecting to the question being raised is completely the wrong way to approach any controversial issue. In doing that you cast yourself, in the eyes of those who disagree with you, as being closed minded or even in denial. Calm, rational debate is the way to move forward. And remember, your opponents in an argument often feel as frustrated with you as you do them. And that applies equally to the often over-emotional responses of those who totally buy into the theories. When you call people shills or sheep etc, just because they raise arguments or questions inconvenient to your narrative, you cast yourself as being the one in denial too.
I've also decided, since uploading this and getting very high view count engagement in just 24 hrs, that I'll most likely make a separate third part of the vid exploring some different possibilities that more plausibly explain the strange timings and the parallels with the film content regarding Kubrick's death (and yes, some of these factors are too strange to just completely dismiss). Like with most controversial conspiracy rumours, there are middle ground (and usually more complex) possibilities that better fit with the evidence ... but you won't find them if you jump straight to the most over-simplistic conclusions out of bias / preference.
Keep yourselves open-minded and willing to question every single claim made, whether it's for or against your desired narrative. That's the approach any detective worth their salt uses.
Thanks folks.
Hi Rob! I wonder, have you ever watched Robert Altman “Images” and it’s posible inspiration for the Shining? I’d love to know your take on that. Thank you for your amazing analysis as always.
If a individual is of age, and chooses to sell herself by means of making money (knowingly)…
Then a judge and jury would likely view it as a consensual act because she’s a participant like the guy involved in arrangement with her.
Basically, when an individual is of age, they should know better of what do at that point in life and own up to it. 😒
@@collativelearning Conspiracy theories are fun and a nice coping mechanism for dealing with what we don’t understand (much like mythology). That said, of course conspiracies have existed in the past, and continue to do so today (the oil industry’s effective propaganda against and suppression of clean energy being one example). But, people create patterns out of objects and events which aren’t necessarily related (i.e., constellations), factual evidence is not a requirement for belief in the credulous, and anyone with a small amount of imagination can create almost any scenario out of whole cloth.
To sum up, most conspiracy theories are BS.
Hey Rob, what do you think about the letter theory from this guy? It would have been easy and small change and very effective. This is imaginable for me totally.
Here’s a link to the theory. It’s new to me at least. Would be highly interested what you think about that?
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@@ceevis7286 It's not that simple. Getting such services from an addict or someone in poverty has a coersion or blackmail element to it. Interesting you only view prostitution as a female profession. Men do it too. I'm not saying the person who sells themselves is absolved of all responsibility, but the punter bears their share of it too. Another factor is that some people who sell themselves like that are uneducated and sometimes mentally impaired by low IQ, addiction etc. If one seduces as an "adult" with a child's mental age I'm not sure the law would be ok with it.
According to Sexual Offences Act 2003 in UK it's illegal if the other person "lacks the capacity to choose whether to agree to the touching (whether because he lacks sufficient understanding of the nature or reasonably foreseeable consequences of what is being done, or for any other reason)," there's a fair bit of interpative scope in that. But that's the technical legal argument. There's also the moral argument, which is often different to the written laws.
What bothers me about this comment section is, that in a world where a certain island operation 99% of people would have described as a crazy conspiracy theory was unveiled, everyone has a moral duty to question things more, not less.
I think it's highly unlikely that there is no connections with the film after learning about the scale and abundance of similar operations and networks. The idea that eyes wide shut is completely detached from the concept of elite rituals is more implausible than the opposite, especially when that is undeniably the entire focus of the movie.
@@pokechamp3987 YES!!! Kubrick was a master and a genius. Art reveals truths. And each of his films were meticulously researched and true. Most of the topics are simply too deep for most people to fully comprehend. This is why all of his films get better with time as people come to see what this man had been saying all along. Not to mention what a mastermind he was at workin within the system while upending it. The most compelling “evidence” would be Scientology could have found him dangerous. Keep in mind he was with Tom Cruise, their wonder boy, and he was having him and Nicole do “psychoanalysis” with him. Last I check Scientology frowned on that. The coincidence of his daughter leaving for Scientology is also interesting. And they are well known to use various measures to bully and keep people in line. Not to mention all the bohemian grove and E Island types. Oh wait and MK Ultra which was exposed in clockwork. Or making a mockery of the war machine, CIA and FBI. Dude was a TROLL and I love him for it. Anyone who speaks the truth will be a wanted man. If they killed him or not is beside the point. Kubrick knew very well these groups wanted him dead.
Most people would rather see the world as they pretend it to be, and not for what it is. It's strange to me that there has ALWAYS been a small group of people that covet power and money over all else, and they control the vast majority of people. From Kings and Queens to the Oligarchy we have now; nothing changes.
@@Psilocybin77 It depends on what you define as 'most people'. I don't think people around the world are really liking what's happening to their countries, from one degree to another.
Ask Shirley Temple and her mother.
Not a conspiricy guy, but the revelation of Epstien and Weinstein since EWS seems like there was something bad going on that maybe Kubrick was aware of due to being in the rich and fame club.
and as we know......Epstein was killed off for what he knew. there are parallels, The Epstein situation is really interesting because it is one were even the most sheep minded of people
understand that he was killed off, it gave the normies a real look down the rabbit hole which is a good thing. the first event in history that did that for me was 911 when I finally researched it myself.
Did you see Shirley Temple interview on meeting producers with her mom.
Agree
Why then was the rich and famous club in the film a direct lift from the 1926 novel set in Vienna? Schnitzler was hardly describing characters as specific as Epstein or Weinstein, but merely describing archetypes that exist wherever humans exist. None of this was thought up from scratch by Kubrick.
Definatly. Good example of something ppl would have not belived untill substanciated.
You do see whats going on in America Sean Combs Jeffrey Epstein Harvey Weinstein Bill Cosby etc You do see that Kubrick’s ideas/feelings/opinions as put forth in his movies is not so farfetched or off target Right?
@@URTH-yb5xh Worst thing about Cosby was the hypocrisy!
@@URTH-yb5xh This isn't anything new surely. Hollywood has a history of scandals
@Loveapug1234 Really? I felt the worse thing were the rapes
Dont forget the Clintons.
@@abraxas511 and donald trump 🤔
Everything around this film, including the casting choices is highly suspect.
Tom cruise agreeing to do it is fascinating to me. Did he do it as a sort of inter cult war? Does scientology do the same stuff? I assume so. Maybe it happens and he didn't know about it at the time. Maybe he was oblivious to the meaning of the movie and was wrapped up in some narrow egotistical view.
@jiaan100 I think its highly likely the elites do have their own internal cliques and conflicts.
I finally watched it the other day for the first time, and it felt too real. It felt like it wasn’t even acted. Just felt like real life in an alternate universe where Tom and Nicole are a doctor and his wife rather than two famous actors. I guess that’d because of hindsight and our knowledge of Hollywood and Scientology now vs. when this movie came out.
Nicole Kidman’s father was being investigated in Australia for running an elite devil worshipping pedophile ring.
He disappeared, ran to Singapore whilst being investigated, first reports said he had committed suicide, now reports state he had an accident. Nicole Kidman as his choice of actor was appropriate considering what her father was involved in.
@@jiaan100 these people are powerless without what they think gives them power. They are weak. They’re fake.
The stories about Nicole kidmans dad are horrible and then she married Cruz who is another weirdo. These people are sick
Australian involved with those girl who went missing at the beach. Yeah…Australia has some sickos, too
She married Penelope Cruz?
I was sure she married Tom Cruise. Oh well, my mistake.
Anyone here know about Fiona Barnett ? It’s crazy ! Also it was kinda weird they had the same last name !
@@oli19827 yea. Horrific story. Like aneka Lucas
@@childofkhem1.618 And Katie Johnson.
It doesn't take a genius to realize this movie is not complete. It's missing its spine. The skeleton holding it all together.
I felt that way too
Instant click
Same here
Aye lol
Affirmative
Me too. I mostly listen to Robs videos at work. Greet for making the time go by.
Same!
Rob, you might be familiar with the movie Wag the Dog (1997), where Dustin Hoffman plays a director named Stanley, who is killed at the end (by the character played by Robert De Niro) because "Stanley" ultimately wanted to reveal that he was the director behind the entire psy-op within the story of the film Wag the Dog.
Of course, this is not hard evidence, could be part of Kubricks paranoia, but... funny coincidence?
I must be missing something. How would Wag the dog be part of Kubricks paranoia?
i like this take. great movie btw!
@@SteveRooster-km5rg The movie Wag the Dog could have been a "silent thread" to Kubrick from insiders/ high-up movie people who before 1997 must have known about Kubricks E W S project and him exposing the elite...
@@XanderDDS Agreed! great movie...
Are you trying to imply the moon landings were faked and Kubrick directed them? Even if that's true (which it fucking isn't), why would them need to kill him because of it? It ultimately doesn't matter if we landed on the moon or not.
Dozens of people were involved in the production of this film, including actors and production staff. Why not ask them if more scenes were filmed than those included in the final version?
I did ua-cam.com/video/YWxJqaIFi3w/v-deo.html but believers in the assassination theory just claim the crew are lying.
wow it's like synchronicity.. i'm a musician who recently outed a convicted pdf-file publicly and am currently experiencing the backlash from it. i was co-managing a successful rave company for over a decade, and the aforementioned joined in along with a famous UA-camr with similar inclinations who i didn't want to be associated with, so i left and stated my reasons why. what you're touching on here in this video shows the complexity of a situation like this and the signaling by someone who sees something bad happening and wants to stop it but can't do it directly so he does it through his art and the backlash and understandable temporary paranoia about impending repercussions makes so much sense to me at this point in my life. thank you Rob, you've given me a sympathetic perspective at this time.
Heavy man
That's more like Regatta de Blanc, in my opinion. Still, both good albums.
As a female raver, I thank you, brother. Thank you for having integrity and being genuine.
@@NationandState isn't it sad that we have to be grateful that a man doesn't condone pdf files? But it is what it is 🤷♀️
Those kind of creeps can't build or create,they can only take advantage. Sorry you lost all you built, in terms of infrastructure and community, but none of that means anything if you can't look yourself in the mirror.
He probably didn't like to fly because he knew that crashes (and tragic accidents) were/are the "establishment's" main way of disposing of naughty people.
Lol what are you talking about. Do you know how hard it would be to secretly bring down a modern passenger jet without leaving evidence of tampering? I am not saying it has never happened, but he probably didn't like to fly because he was a paranoid and neurotic man
@@braidenfoster9277 Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is the 84th plane to go mysteriously missing since 1948
Rob Ager has a PhD in:
Eyes Wide Shut
The Shining
2001: A Space Odyssey
The Thing
Mad Max
Hahaha
Don’t forget Full Metal Jacket
and he gave that diploma to himself!
And a Masters in Alien/Aliens
Don't even try and take the piss. RA has done some of the best analysis of Kubrick films of all time. Don't agree with all of it, but his stuff is ALWAYS worth a watch and the good stuff is fascinating.
If you don't think a Director could be assasinated for who their films upset go look up the horrible story around Pier Paolo Pasolini's death.
@@synthvault And yet the film is available for all to see and always has been.
Tell us... how did he pass away?
@BeamArt-01 Pasolini was murdered. Someone confessed, but recanted. It is now considered an unsolved cold case.
A confession is worth nothing lol.. keep lying to yourselfs.. a ok
@@superbn0va - I never said I had any confidence in the confession.
Workaholic who slept 3-4 hours a day, smoked for most of his life, was overweight, and just had his daughter leave the family to join Scientology. Stanley Kubrick’s heart gave up on him.
@@mishtaromaniello8295 wasn’t it Hemingway who was secretly followed by the FBI, who was painted as “insane” and “paranoid” and which eventually drove him to unalive himself? lol don’t know why I just thought of that.
Epstein list still hasn't been released
Just like a suicidal junkie makes the perfect murder because nobody even thinks to investigate.
@@jackharle1251 America essentially proved the majority of the public do not care who is on that list. As authorities did release never before seen/heard interviews with Epstein several months ago in which he states Donald Trump was not only a friend but his closest and perhaps best friend in the world. The American public knew this. And responded by putting that reprobate back in the White House.
@@jackharle1251and it never will be. Same with the Diddler list. 😏
The reason why I have a hard time believing he was killed by 'powerful shady people' is that they would never have allowed him to even start filming if they genuinely feared he was gonna expose something. This wasn't some small project involving unknowns it was a big project involving A listers Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. 'Powerful people' would most certainly have had an idea about it beforehand. You don't eliminate a threat after its done filming.
I'm still honestly baffled at what people think Kubrick was specifically exposing. Lets say in theory Kubrick knew about some secret sex cult in real life that disposed of one of their in-house 'workers' after a mysterious death and lets also say he had information this sex cult was actively trying to intimidate witnesses who knew about it. If Kubrick's film was suppose to expose this, he did a pretty poor job of pointing to anything specific enough to decode in a meanginful or concrete way. So why would he take the risk doing that but also refuse to fully directly expose it and instead just put a bunch of symbolic breadcrumbs hoping other people would figure it out. Part of me gets the fun people have trying to decode these things, but the part I don't get is when people take that gamified puzzle decoding into the realm of any kind of certainty.
Actually they do like it. Because they function by hiding things in plain sight. But they want it kept very overt. Kubrick crossed a line.
@@AVeryHeavyAgenda You're missing a lot, each scene, each frame in that movie has tons of symbolism, the movie tells a story and there's also a hidden story, a hidden meaning, he outed Lex Wexner, Rothschild, Intel agencies blackmail, Epstein, pedophilia rings, not by name, but by hinting at it, really strongly. The less intelligent can't catch it but its all so clearly there.
They're not worried about being exposed. Most people are completely unaware that they're brainwashed, asleep, or "larval" as Timothy Leary put it.
@@florinivan6907 I really think if this video was better we wouldn’t be having this discussion. He left out so much info and failed to really explain the theory and why people would believe it. Kubrick had various protections including information on the elite that he used as leverage. He knew the only way they could silence him was by killing him. Remember Kubrick was a chess master. He was strategic and a mastermind at working the very system he sought to expose. He started under the Hollywood era of figuring out how to get content pass the censors and he did that with the content of his films as well… sneaking things in under their noses. I would not be surprised if he was part of MK Ultra type experiments himself. Likewise Diddy parties, bohemian grove and nasa as well as fashion industry all should be looked into. Check out how many famous people who were thought “paranoid” were actually being followed. So much more to this story…
Rob ,he was killed by Shelley Duvall
@@maltronics Who killed Shelley Duvall? I don't want to hear about any natural causes shit.
@@maltronics He he. Yes. An addendum to the "Wendy Theory", and every bit as moronic.
The maskers got him for being anti science
Shelley's revenge!
It's the most plausible conspiract theory - no one would believe it, so it must be true.
When you don’t fall for the Clickbait, but then you see who uploaded it and get excited! Always love your content.
1999 was the end of civilization.
For me, 2006
@@BrendanDuffy-r3u Putin was appointed interim president of Russia on New Years Eve, 1999.
@@31minutesago Why 2006?
@@31minutesago Okay, cool.
Pop culture... Fo sho.
He asked Steven Spielberg to direct AI for him... Most appropriate director shift ever... Eye Wide Shut opened my blind spot up to our local cult/occultist sociopaths... We miss you Stanley, until we meet again, mask free!!! ✌️👼🤟
@@jasonzacharias2150 Dude the video doesn’t even touch on the allegations and creepiness surrounding Spielberg and the added meaning of him directing ai
I love Kubrick, but I refuse to watch EWS. Cruise and Kidman? No thanks.
@@holden190 Kubrick chose them for exactly that reason. Here was the perfect Hollywood couple, the perfect facade. And then to see him use their real relationship and their ties to Scientology and Hollywood to create a movie that ultimately undermines and questions all those things was Stanley’s genius and added to the meta aspect of the movie and the psychological realness which worked on so many levels.
These types were big and all around in the 60s - re the Scientology link, L Ron Hubbards first wife was the girlfriend of a Jack Parsons who worked at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, who was a follower of Alastair Crowley and would have sex rituals to try and birth the “anti-Christ”. This sort of stuff was everywhere in the 60s counter culture movement - Kubrick would have been exposed to this, it almost seems like to me he is imagining what all those hippies grew up to be in the future…
@@holden190it's really subpar for Kubrick imo, Cruise is wooden as a door. But he didn't get final cut so you gotta cut him slack, knowing what a perfectionist Kubrick was.
Kubrick was quite paranoid allegedly, very intelligent obviously, very empathetic and maybe too sensitive, and these personality traits sometimes come with a certain degree of paranoia. I saw a documentary called "Stanley & Me", about a person that was his personal assistant for about 30 years, an Italian named Emilio D'Alessandro. He spoke about many stories and experiences with him, one of them about his love for animals, how he saved cats, dogs, donkeys, and adopted them at his England estate. He told a story about how one day, Kubrick saw outside his window a few dozen rabbits that were laying on his lawn, lots of them, laying still, and he immediately was convinced that someone poisoned them and thrown them in front of his house. His assistant had to reassure him that it was not the case, but he was not convinced until he clapped his hands and chased them away showing that they were just chilling near his house. He really believed that the rabbits were dead on his lawn. So, quite paranoid.
After potentially helping to fake the moon landings, I think you might end up abit paranoid.
You are very gullible. You're really going to hate what you see when you finally see the real world.
Paranoia is for a reason.
@@gregoryl.levitre9759 tell us what you see bro
You sound very navie and uninformed. Do you know who he was affiliated with? Do you know the oaths he took? No, you being unaware doesn't make him paranoid.
I really don't believe he was murdered. However I strongly believe that Vivian's abrupt separation from the family really broke his heart, which ultimately heavily contributed to an already tired and stressed life.
just a question did you get the covid jabs?
On the plus side, I have it on good authority (none other than Lafayette R Hubbard himself; guy was a genius) that when she-Vivian-attains OT8, she'll literally be able to bend spoons. No, really...literally!
Go sea org! ;p
@@MihneaIrimia Remind me about Scientology and the stuff they do again… couldn’t be related I’m sure
@@Barney-ii1no
Here we go.
OK but how do we even know that Stanley Kubrik was his real name? The people in hollyweird all play personas under ccontract, and a death is just a death of his persona for that contract. Hes probably back in iscrael kicking back and living the life sponsored by the US taxpayer.
As I said many years ago. And still say today.
If the studio did re-edit Eyes Wide Shut, what they could not hide, or missed, was that on the doors of the room that holds the private party is a repeated pattern. Tom Cruise walks in to discover what's really going on in this scene.
It's a reversed version of the Process Church of the Final Judgement's logo.
(amended from "inverted" to reversed.)
The Process Church of the Final Judgement were a spin off from L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology. The thing he came up with after he and Jack Parsons incarnated the Whore of Babalon into human vessel in 1946. And were successful, which Aleister Crowley was not happy about.
They based themselves in a very rich section of London (Mayfair). Then flew off to Mexico between September - November 1966, returned, and then the following year started setting up offices in America (San Francisco / New Orleans / Los Angeles / New York)
Their name comes up with Sirhan Sirhan, the alleged assassin of Robert Kennedy.
Their name comes up with Charles Manson.
Their name comes up with The Son of Sam.
Their name comes up with Paul McCartney (the Beatle who disappeared between September - November 1966, while his Beatle pals in India and Spain could not go to these locations without the press knowing it. Because they were Beatles.) The Process insist one of their members was on the Beatles payroll.
When the Process willingly went to the FBI with any information they could give them about their association with Manson, the FBI went nah, we're not interested.
ODD COINCIDENCES
As said before, McCartney is the only Beatle who can go incognito without being detected by paparazzi. He visits San Francisco in the first week of April 1967. When George Harrison visits that area in the summer of 1967 EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT IT. The only one who seemed to know McCartney went there was their longtime road manager and p/a Mal Evans. Mal Evans would be gunned down years later by police officers. One being Lieutenant Charles Higbie. He was the investigating officer on the Sirhan Sirhan assassination. Sirhan Sirhan's lawyer was George E. Shibley. This is the same lawyer that visited Charles Manson just before his release from prison at the end of March 1967. That Manson and McCartney are in the same city, both associated with the same organisation is not enough. McCartney is also associated to Doris Day's son, Terry Melcher, who would be Apple's distributor in America. And also associated to Manson.
On August 9th, 1969, The Beatles are seen crossing Abbey Road. Behind them is a Volkswagen Beetle with the registration ending 28IF.
On the same day, in a different time zone, Tex Watson and other Family members are driving over to Doris Day's old house on Cielo in a car with the registration ending 281P.
The last gift Roman Polanski presented to his wife Sharon Tate on her birthday was a car with the registration PGY 330.
The rumour that McCartney died and was replaced began in September 1966.
What people fail to notice is the amount of people that started dying around The Beatles, close friends, business associates. Beginning in September 1966. By the time August 1967 rolls around, there are 10 people dead by
SUICIDE
CAR ACCIDENT
OVERDOSE
MURDER
For this many people to die of unnatural causes within a given year DEFIES THE LAWS OF PROBABILITY. Especially people who all know The Beatles personally, but may not know of one another, or have relationships with them. It's the same with the 35 people who died after JFK's assassination. Especially if you knew Jack Ruby. It does not stop in August 1967. It keeps going. It takes their manager in 1967. Their lawyer is dead by 1968. McCartney's former girlfriend's father, Richard Asher commits suicide in April 1969. They don't find him in his own house for 3 days.
The Process Church of the Final Judgement, is a name that not many people know, but many roads lead back to them. And as said. Kubrick put their logo, reversed, in his movie. And one can say it's just a pattern on a door. Where does the door lead to I say. It leads to a secret society that will do bad things to you if you don't play along.
Have you ever seen that meme with the guy from it’s always sunny in Philadelphia and he has the chipboard with all the pictures and yarn connecting the dots? I feel like this comment is the text version of that meme.
But I’ll look it up bro!
The weirdest thing about the Process Church for me is how they eventually became the Best Friends Animal Society, and how they still had obvious huge influence in that form amongst Hollywood circles, proven by how they were the beneficiaries of the Hand In Hand Telethon, featuring all the top celebs of 2017, to help victims of Hurricane Harvey that devastated Houston
Jesus man, did you scrawl all that in your asylum wall too with the the te lead from a discarded pencil and the blood from the rat you killed in your cell?
Smh
tl;dr
The JFK assassination was the dirty work of the Israel Lobby and the Jewish Mafiosi, which Jack Ruby - Rubenstein - was a part of. He ran a strip club as well as being a hired gun. A gangster for Zion. Sam Bloom, who was the chairman of the host committee for Kennedy's visit to Dallas, was undoubtedly involved as well. There's a lot more to this, so I recommend the book The Unspoken Kennedy Truth by Laurent Guyénot.
I greatly respect your central premise here. I'm noticing a trend of UA-camrs who are disappointed with the conspiracy drivel my generation splayed across the platform when we were younger and want to create more nuanced treatments of the actual salient topics buried within it. I appreciate it enormously.
On the topic of Kubrick's health, I haven't seen anyone bring up that autobiography by Kubrick's long time driver/personal assisant. Italian guy, I forget his name and the name of the book. I read it years ago so I'm going on memory. What I do recall is that he had a sort of falling out with Kubrick for a number of years during the 90s, then came back to work for him during the shooting of EWS. So he was working for Kubrick on a personal day to day basis up to the end.
He only wrote from his own observations, but the clear impression to me was of an aging man who was burning both ends of the candle stick with his crazy work scheduling, and had no sense of personal care and even being forgetful and negligent about basic aspects of hygiene and having down time. In other words, Kubrick became the example par excellence of no work-life balance. At his age, especially if there were pre existing risk factors cardiac wise, he truly seemed to be a ticking time bomb.
I havent read the book but other than his seemingly unhealthy lifestyle choices some of things he's described as doing sound pretty whacky, like this infamous story from Full Metal Jacket "While location scouting for the film Stanley Kubrick was driving his wife's new SUV around the countryside with cinematographer Douglas Milsome and R. Lee Ermey as passengers. At one point Kubrick noticed a potential location out his window, and became so distracted describing to Milsome how he wanted the location used in the film that he crashed the car into a six foot deep ditch, rolling the SUV onto its side. Undeterred, Kubrick continued talking about the location uninterrupted as they climbed out of the car and walked back home."
@@AVeryHeavyAgendaKubrick's obsessiveness and lack of social graces make me wonder if he was on the spectrum. I heard that prior to reading the Shining and enjoying it, he kept getting to the second chapter of other books and then literally throwing them against the wall in disgust.
@@ryanjacobson2508 the idea of someone being high functioning autistic was definitely a thing during Kubricks time but I don't think i've ever heard anyone suggest it before but does seem pretty plausible. Not that its an uncommon thing but he also refused to fly in planes until he passed away, He might have broken that rule a couple of times though i'm not sure
I remember hearing something similar that maybe one of his daughters said. That she had never seen him so burnt out after filming was completed so while his death was sudden, it wasn’t surprising.
@@katskillz Leon Vitali was a true friend until the end. None of this bullshit is true.
If someone had a falling out, their whole story should be suspect if you're using any common sense.
This Kubrick conspiracy is just stupid. He was 70 yrs old, dying from a heart attack is perfectly consistent with his age and health history. Heart attacks are ALWAYS sudden. What the hell are you people talking about? How do you permit yourselves to be so gullible just to believe some inane conspiracy theory made up by a jackass who probably made it up as a jest.
If you believe he was assassinated on any level, you're a fkucing moron.
After Epstein, Maxwell, and now Diddy, this seems completely plausible.
The little girl walking away at the end as been sold into the cult by the parents. You are blind like other people who are sheep being led to slaughter by the elites.
Yeah. You only need to look at Musk, Trump and Epstein to see how the elites collaborate to enable child abuse.they don’t even hide it.
Blind? I point to the details in relation to that theory near the end of the vid.
Hi Rob,
Haven't watched your videos since 2012 or so, glad to see youre still around researching Kubrick!
Peter Sellers was apparently obsessed with the occult. Having done two films with Kubrick, maybe he let him in on some going-ons in the "occult scene"? Conversely, people tend to forget that EWS is a pretty faithfully-followed "cover" of Arthur Schnitzler's "Traumnovelle", that Kubrick had wanted to make for over three decades.
Saw this title and pressed my thumb straight though my tablet screen.
Years ago I watched a docu with Kubrick discussing why he filmed the Moon landing and he called it his greatest film 🎥 that he couldnt take credit for .
The fact that Rob has made it clear what he believes regarding this theory makes it hard to think that this will be a balanced assessment. Rob doesn't believe that there is missing/deleted footage, so it will be difficult for him to take a balanced approach to this idea. Personally, I think there's something to it (the possibility of missing footage and also of Kubrick being taken out). I still enjoyed the video and look forward to part 2!
Why would you expect a balanced debate from a guy _monologuing?_ Don't you need at least two blokes for that? And why would you value an investigation that is biased towards being inconclusive (i.e. balanced)? This sounds so asinine to me but I love the idea of not seeing it that way.
Rob's just thinking aloud, that's all he does. He puts all cards on the table: it doesn't make sense to him, but anyway, let's go through this step by step and see what we see. There's no theater, just thinking. Plain old boring thinking. Sometimes you start by genuinely having no idea, sometimes you have an intuition, sometimes you even have a believe. But once you start thinking through, it doesn't matter. You go over the information carefully and ask the questions, and try to answer these questions.
I swear some people are simply put off by the sight of another man thinking...
To ensure balance I've strived (and i'm confident I've succeeded) in making a much stronger case for the assassination and deleted sordid scenes theories than any other source out there. If you can find anyone who makes a better case for it (without making wild-imagination claims that they provide no evidence for) then please point me to it. I read something like 100 postings and articles, taking the best bits and even adding some research of my own from the Kubrick Archives, to prop the theories up as much as possible within the confines of evidence.
This isn't a deceptive exercize. I use this approach in all of my work. I deliberately try to make the strongest case for and against an interpretation in turns before I publish my conclusion. Which is what everybody should do to overcome personal bias. But people don't tend to do this. They tend to pick a desired narrative first then cherry pick and ignore evidence and assumptions to fit what they want to believe. This is true of believers AND debunkers in many big debates.
However, if I am being biased in this opening vid then you can demostrate it by pointing to key innacuracies and ommisions in how I've covered the topic so far. But, looking through the comments, virtually nobody is fact checking or disagreeing with any of the statements about evidence i've made, even though it's a partially adlibbed summary. Virtually nobody is fact-checking because I've sourced near enough everything (see the PDF article version for even more sources).
@varvarvarvarvarvar - ok, smart ass, debate wasn't the right word. A balanced view/assessment of both sides. And I didn't say I valued it, I said I enjoyed it. I also didn't say it would be biased towards being inconclusive. How can it be inconclusive when we haven't seen part 2 yet..? Rob has a different view, I didn't say that view was inconclusive, just that it was opposing the ideas put forth in this video. That's all.
Rob's not just thinking aloud, and that isn't all he does. He shares his views and opinions, which are welcome and helpful when watching his videos.
What are you talking about..? I respect Rob and wasn't put off at all by his thinking. What a strange comment
@collativelearning - I totally understand, Rob. And what you've said makes perfect sense. I wasn't having a go at you in any way, I just knew where you stood with this theory. Evidence is crucial in supporting any theory. You're absolutely right about that. But the old saying "there's no smoke without fire" - sometimes rings true as well. These theories/claims had to have come from somewhere. I'm more thinking about the missing footage and Kubrick's final cut being tampered with, which I find interesting. I hope Vivian does an interview soon to give her thoughts on this. That would be very interesting!
@@collativelearning no this was a fail but glad you’re confident 👎. I would check out Why Files. They do a great job of what you were maybe attempting here.
Aren’t there people who worked on the movie, including actors, that can be asked about these things?
You ever wonder why camera operators are always vicodin additcs3
@@alborland5675 people always suggest these things, as if that hadn’t been thought of before, but I doubt people want to run their mouths when there are such stakes
Probably "sworn" to secrecy. The whole entertainment business is rotten to the core. See, The Beatles or just Beatles as they became.
Like Nicole Kidman? Fun fact; her dad was a psychologist for MKUltra
He was charged with having human hunting parties. He was very nasty. Huge p dough. It's so odd that Nicole played that role. No coincidence.
I can't get past the story of Tom and the fish. 🤢🤮
This will get you over the 250,000 subscribers mark. Keep it up!! I've been a subscriber for many years.
The best to ever do it is back with new EYES WIDE SHUT content. Thank you Rob!
“Cult & Occult” is by Peter Brookesmith (Francis King only provided the introduction) is the book referenced in the video. No eBook out there. Book sells for anywhere from £130 to £350. My library network has it and I reserved it (who knows when I will get it).
25:30 Kubrick used to say that his movies can be interpreted in layers. I'm sure you remember him saying that about 2001. In Eyes Wide Shut the daughter gets taken away in the end, and on the surface level it can be interpreted that she's being taken to be sacrificed just like the prostitute was. The interpretation that it's about Kubrick's own daughter is also very plausible at the same time, but both are probably true. It makes the ending scarier too.
Kubrick's daughter became a Scientologist after EWS, ironically. I say ironically because obviously Tom Cruise is not only a Scientology victim, he's by far the most powerful Hollywood celebrity promoter of the cult. I also say ironically because IMO there's a good chance that Kubrick chose Cruise & Kidman to star in EWS in order to troll one or both of them; something I believe he's done several times in the past, with actors (Jack Nicholson in The Shining*), and collaborators (Arthur C. Clarke, on 2001 A Space Oddyssey**). Or possibly in order to de-program Cruise from Scientology, or...something.
* Watch the behind the scenes footage shot by Kubrick and his daughter: Nicholson comes across as a serious douchebag, repeatedly gesturing at and doing various things involving his crotch, making suggestive comments, and in one scene, he completely ignores his co-star Shelly Duvall when she arrives on set one morning.
** Clarke was a massive pedo boy lover. I honestly believe he got into scuba diving (making documentaries on it, and creating a scuba diving business) in order to follow little boys around for hours, staring at their butts, legs, and in between their legs, as they moved them slowly up and down to kick their feet, from the perfect vantage point. Sounds weird, I know, but trust me, if you go down the Arthur C Clarke rabbit hole, it won't take long before you've amassed incontrovertible proof that he *_LOVED_* little boys. The death record of the son of the man who rented a house on his property to Clarke (a boy at the time), is a good place to start. Clarke is listed as his wife (?!). Quite the rabbit hole, eh? ;p
A direct link between Helena and the prostitute is the stuffed tiger on her bed, like the stuffed animals we see in the toy store. Likewise rewatching it I think it’s hinted at that the prostitute is only on the street to try to get some extra money to buy gifts for her child and that she is not a seasoned professional, her roommate who looks like her is however. Essentially we see these two woman as mirror opposites in switched “costumes.” The prostitute kisses like it’s a high school make out session (I thought hookers didn’t kiss on the lips) and she doesn’t keep track of time. She is too innocent to even say dirty words to bill regarding what she “recommends.” Compare this to bill’s immediate groping of her roommate (the real prostitute according to this theory). She knows Bill would be easy money so she is reluctant to tell him the truth. Making the prostitute another female sacrifice in the movie.
Eyes Wide Shut has become one of all time favorite films the older I get, and I overall sense I get from people who keep claiming that Kubrick was killed and it was re-edited is that we were denied a better movie. EWS has gotten its flowers in recent years but for a while it was seen as a disappointment, at least standing in the shadow of Kubrick’s filmography. Thats where I think all this skepticism is coming from ultimately in my opinion.
or maybe he exposed a certain high society network in a manner that he knew for which there would be "dire consequences".
@@CRT4Dummies can you elaborate? the implication is he revealed something extremely specific that felt threatening to this supposed group, and yet nobody seems capable of naming a specific group, sex cult, secret society or even a private club of any kind. If your logic extended to other filmmakers why have many of them who have made way more specific exposures of groups like the Bohemian grove or french freemasonry lived long after the release of their films exposing these things? I mean one could say the same thing about Alex Jones, the first person to film the Cremation of Care play at Bohemian Grove, he did that in 1999 if i remember correctly. Now dude is on ozempic and getting makeovers from navy seals over 20 years later, but the funny twist on that is Jones later admitted he was 'setup' as a prank and that people in the Grove wanted him to leak it in order to fuel conspiracy theories which might be incidentally one of the most honest / truthful things spoken out of his mouth in his entire career.
I didn't like it at the cinema as a young woman but, boy, do I love interpretations on UA-cam and the comments sections in my fifties 😂😂😂😂
The genius of Eyes Wide Shut is that it comes across as anti-climatic the first time you see it because the primary actions take place off screen. The viewer has to be able to pick up on what's being inferred to really understand it.
It absolutely is a dud, a clanger, in the Kubrick corpus. Jason Horsley's a good source to validate this opinion if you're inclined towards my opinion, by which I mean THE TRUTH ;p
There is a better Christmas movie dealing with the same themes; identity, split personas, masks... it even features a masquerade ball. It's called Batman Returns.
Fun fact Batman never returned after this 😂
Let me show you the door 🚪...now get out.
How odd, that movie also has elites who have a scheme to drain society under the guise of improving it, for which they recruit the extremely perverted leader of a shadowy group that abducts children, so they can corrupt the political process and also blackmail and frame and kill their opponents (and I think the scheme to frame Batman with the Batmobile was also supposed to end with his death?). Catwoman's story is also odd, she apparently dies after learning the truth, and apparently dies again when killing Max, both incidents having a black magic implication and resembling an initiation and a sacrifice respectively.
Batman Rechurned
Bachman Retuned (I'm not clear on the rules).
You made a video a few months ago, where you explore how Nicholson owned the house where the Polanski crime was committed. The fact that he was in Chinatown, where the main plot involved incest. And in the video, there is also a reference of the 1975 One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest, where his character was sent to prison for sleeping with an underage girl. "Doc, she was 15 years old going on 35 doc"...and it gets even more explicit, as you already know. And the creepy sexual coincidences for Nicholson do not end there.
When Jack Nicholson was 37 years old, he discovered through an investigation that the woman he thought was his older sister, June, was actually his biological mother. June had given birth to Nicholson at a young age and allowed her parents to raise him as their child to avoid societal judgment. This revelation was confirmed after both June and her mother had already passed away, leaving Nicholson to process the truth without being able to discuss it with them.
And in the shining it's implied he's abusing his own child
was his mother a maid at a rich man’s house? Leonardo DiCaprio is Jack Nicholson’s son -
if not mistaken,I think Ted Bundy had a similar background also
I thought the boy from the beach boys owed that house before Polanski bought it. That guy was involved with the Manson lot and they would take over his house and he had to leave to get away from them.
@@AlabamaWyatt Nicholson was known for throwing the most wild drug fueled multi-day parties in Hollywood. Sound like anyone? Think you’re on to something.
Ive never put much stock in the assassination rumors. The guy was an elderly workaholic who wasn't exactly big on physical fitness
Nice conspiracy theory, but the truth is freemason lizard people had him murdered for exposing their underground satanic child sex cults. I use Occam's Mallet. If I can hit it, it's true.
Elderly?
Wrong
@@hollywoodjadedyes
Epstein list still hasn't been released
In the scene where main character sees the couple on the balcony, the female character got a tear tattoo on the mask. That tear tattoo symbolizes (in this context not prison context, for example) that you had to do horrible things to do horrible things to your children
The tear- tattoo some people are wearing in real life means they have done something they regret. Mostly it's a drug- addiction, sometime it s m* rder . That why lots of prisoners are wearing one...
The burden for "he was killed" seems much higher than the burden for "they edited the film so Tom and Nicole's erotic thriller wasn't all about pedophilia"
Why not cut the Leelee Sobieski part out completely then, if you're going to go to all the trouble to kill Kubrick and have the film altered?
@christophermacintyre5890 exactly. If there's any editing like Avery suggested, it was making sure Tom and Nicole weren't shown as pedo enablers
It might be tough for them to edit her out of those scenes and have the movie still make any sense@@christophermacintyre5890
They are genociding society as we speak and you tools think it is so outrageous that they would take out a director that went too far, ok kiddies, enjoy what is left of your life in neverland.
@@andrelegeant88 unfortunately the problem is the person who made this video was really shoddy. There is a much better case to be made but he missed it. Kubrick and his ties to the elite go way back. He most likely had leverage on them which is why they even let him work. But he knew any chance they had they would kill him. It is worth actually looking into how many famous people the FBI or CIA have tracked and assassinated who were called “paranoid” for telling the truth. Look into MK ultra as well and get back to me bud
The fact that theories like this even exist just goes to show the immense power that Eyes Wide Shut radiates.
Funny how weve never gotten the original cut available for purchase ,isnt it ?
Stanley isn't even dead, I saw him outside McDonalds the other day.
😆 Am glad you said that, cos I've seen him a few times myself, in the Rough Trade record shop down the road. I asked for his autograph but he made me ask him "with more passion" and as if I was "a genuine collector of autographs" about TWENTY times. It was only when I almost couldn't hold the tears back any longer that he eventually gave me a very badly written "Steve" on a tissue. But I know it was him really. He didn't have a Scouse accent.
Funny, I'm sure I saw him outside Burger King. No wonder he's overweight.
Lies, he prefers Wimpy
@@Doomer1984 I saw him too, when he was younger, a few years ago, just before lockdown in Sainsbury's in a small West Sussex town... I did a double take!!! 🤣🤣
@@Doomer1984 I love spotting 'celebs' or a lame, third-rate 'lookalike' 🤣 Sometimes just the hair. So that would be a bloke wearing "John Pertwee's wig." Looks nothing like him but his hair is a deadringer!!! 🤣
as far as i know Kubrick was aware of his illness and therefore asked Spielberg to bring A.I. to the screen, or am i wrong?
He was not prepared to make the movie at that time because the technology in film making had not reached the point to make it believable enough for Stanley. Therefore he passed it along. So goes the lore anyway.
Yes you are.
this is the first time I have heard about this, have you got a link ? I am someone who likes to be proven wrong with these sort of things
@@Stygian360 Thank you for the info 👍
@@Barney-ii1no it was really long ago, around the time when AI was new in german cinemas ... so i can't remember, sorry
Can’t thank you enough for this first part. Can’t wait for the second part
Thank you for all of your videos, Mr. Ager. Long time subscriber, first time commenter. Just wanted to point out that it's not that people don't want to read anymore; there's just not enough time in the day. For instance, I never watch anything unless I'm also doing something else that doesn't interfere with listening/watching. I don't have the time to read an article about Kubrick, but I have the time to watch a 35min video over a meal or two.
Thanks again!
Of course, I'm the same generally unless i'm reading some important detailed info that requires absolute attention.
Kubrick clearly loved to screw with people. I haven't heard anybody put this out there before, but what if this whole topic was semi engineered by Kubrick knowing he might not live much longer so there's this internal conspiracy theory debate about what really happened? Like what if he intentionally created the conditions for this type of debate to happen?
I don’t think he had this in mind but Kubrick’s whole schtick was making the audience think. Nearly everyone of his movies have ambiguous endings and are left up to interpritation
I lean in that direction too. more in part 2 coming soon.
dont know if you are familiar with Robert Anton Wilson the author of the Illuminatis trilogy but most people including himself portrayed the books for a long time as an obvious satire/parody of the paranoid free associtive conspiracy brain and right before his death Wilson made several comments implying that the Illuminati controlling rhe world was actually not satire, that it was true. To me it looks like he thought it would be fun to troll people right before he passed, to others it looks like an official confirmation.
this is probably the best theory i've heard
Love it.
Kubrick films not only show us his inner most soul of emotions, but the elite ruling class’s players at play.
and that's why they killed him, look into what they did to Isaac Kappy as well.
@@AbrasiousProductionsthey killed him, but decided to leave the very film that exposes them to the public eye?
It let us slaves know we are slaves
@ZachisntReal surpressing a major movie by a leading director might well be practically impossible. Movies require scores of various professionals to make. There is no way to wipe away the fact that something was created from every human memory. Moreover, in trying to hide something, you often draw more attention to it (Streisand effect). Perhaps the outcome of having the movie made public was unfortunate and less than ideal for them, but there was no practically achievable better outcome. Liquidating the creator of that movie, to make sure there are no further projects, might be the best that was achievable. 🤷🏼♂️
@@ZachisntReal they were sloppy, destroying the film after killing Kubrick would've put a lot more suspicion on them and we would've had some arrests by now. I guess just killing him, butchering the film and allowing it to be seen was the only way out.
When discussing pedophillia you didn't mention what Arthur Clarke did to little boys in Sri Lanka.
Yeah did a whole video on that. could have expanded that section massively :)
Didn't he hang out at a ping pong club there?
Epstein list still hasn't been released
@@collativelearning Interesting, thank you. I am currently working on a physics/high strange project and I thought about him the other day and how ground breaking his two TV series were in the '80s. He had friends' in high places. And yes, I heard the rumours about 15 years or so as well...
@@jackharle1251. Yes he has.
My big question that I always ask in regards to this movie is; WHY does Kubrick focus on subtle yet clear themes of Child “S” x Trffking in relation to a seemingly obvious critique towards the upper echelons of elite society? That to me seems to be the most important thing to take away from Eyes Wide shut (and again, think of how the title of the movie interfaces with this theme and what Stanley is really trying to imply we are blind to), and how the power of the elite knows no bounds, in the case of Nick Nightingale, Mandy, and Dr Bill himself. And as you’ve mentioned yourself before I believe rob, almost all of Kubrick’s films from the 50s onwards have addressed the theme of power and the way it corrupts people.
read traumnovelle about young jewiswh doctor out of his depth in viennese society. then read assuakt on truth about the real story of freud
Nicole Kidman's dad......js
Great video, also your EWS - The Plot Thickens is fascinating. Can't wait for the second part
"Room 237 suggests that Stanley Kubrick admitted to faking the moon landing through symbolism in The Shining, particularly in Room 237. The timing of the release of Eyes Wide Shut coinciding with the anniversary of Apollo 13’s launch is also seen as intentional, hinting at Kubrick’s connection to NASA and the moon landing conspiracy."
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@@PleaseSeeThis o boy another fake stanley kubrick . 😆
A solid and intriguing presentation. Well done so far, and I'm in for part 2.
There's also the strange stuffs with Vitali, his long time assistant. Who played the masked dark master, and was even mentionned on the newspaper of the murder of the prostitute.
He did the final cut after Kubrick's death.
He got some rights to the movie IIRC.
He died in 2021.
Why was Vitali all around this movie???
I've tried to look for Vitali's on the net, but could not find anything,
except he was his assistant since the movie 2001.
Maybe he was some kind of spy for the studios to keep Kubrick in line, I don't know..
But specially the fact that his name was written in the newspaper in the movie...
It's very strange.
Also the magic box we see in the finals scenes at the shop, is a very rare one.
It's made by the magic society, and King Charles is an official member of that society.
Aaaand here we are with prince Andrew, Epstein, etc...
It's interesting how many strange things you can connect with this movie...
The subject that the movie revolves around, the elite closde clubs with elaborate rituals and access tiers, has been created by royalty as a tool for informal management of a centralised state. That's why it's a matter of public discussion in France, the birthplace of a modern centralised state.
Vitali was definitely an English curator over Kubrick but he was, by all accounts, a friend as well.
Kubrick's portrayal is a caricature anyway thus it wasn't problematic. If they wanted to shut down the production, they had YEARS to do it.
just watch Filmworker lmao
Interesting, you say....? 🤔
@@varvarvarvarvarvar But if Kubrick has dirt on certain folks they might be afraid to outright shut him down and risk being exposed. How do you think Diddy and Epstein stayed out of trouble? They fed info to the CIA to use as leverage for the global elite to play their power games
@@festeringfingerprintvicodin Thank you. Filmworker was not out when I did my research on the subject.
A very thorough and thoughtful analysis. I will say that Frederic Raphael is not exactly a trustworthy source as to many of the claims he makes about his work with Kubrick because there is really no independent and trustworthy individual to corroborate those claims. His book reads like that of a jilted ex-employee that is covering for someone that's still in the organization. At least that's the vibe I often got while reading his book.
Definitely. I thought it was a horrible book in places. In his defense Kubrick boxed him into a corner with blindfolds, which he did with virtually every "co-writer", but ... Raphael signed the contract and he got paid. Don't like the conditions, don't sign up!!!
@@collativelearning Raphael's jealousy stems from his own unfulfilled career as a writer.
He was supposed to be a "next big thing" in the literary world and it never happened.
He was brought in by Kubrick as an employee and not the Equal intellect which Raphael clearly thought of himself. It built resentment.
Stephen King went through the treatment and response.
Malcolm McDowell did to a degree as well.
Raphael's post-mortem attack reveals his actual character.
Which is Garbage.
There IS some corroboration. Michael Herr's book Kubrick was written and released to give an alternative view by one of his other collaborators. And it unwittingly confirmed every single trait Raphael alleged. Herr's book was an agenda driven own-goal. Bottom line was they both considered it bad behaviour, but Herr thought it the cost of greatness and Raphael didn't. There is no reason to dispute anything Raphael said.
@@geoffreywillars1032 "There is no reason to dispute anything Raphael said" < Unless both Raphael and Herr were not entirely independent and shared the same overseers.
@miltonbates6425 I think that's the point though. Herr WASNT independent. He wrote it at the behest of the family to counter Raphael as far as I know. That the book was 'authorised' was confirmed when an abridged version was released by the Estate as part of a Taschen book.
Ask those that acted in the film what scenes were deleted.
Kubrick died exactly 666 days before the first day of 2001. Let's keep in mind that 2001 was his most iconic movie. And 666 is obviously a number with a lot of satanic symbolism. It may just all be a big coincidence, but what are the odds?
I'm not disagreeing but wow, it's amazing he was as productive as he was. Amongst Strangelove, Full Metal Jacket, Clockwork Orange, Shining, Eyes Wide Shut...any of those would be any other directors most iconic films...just an incredible filmography, and the best ever probably...maybe rivaled only by Tarkovsky or Bergman or Truffaut but Kubrick was really on another level completely.
Dude the 666 concept is Judeo-Christian biblical ideology. I wouldn't give that theory much credit.
you see, this is how they do it, they cover it up so well yet they leave little clues like that to subliminally tell you that YES, THEY DID KILL HIM AND THEY'LL KILL YOU IF YOU TRY TO STOP THEM. everyone needs to wake up, these aren't coincidences!
@@michaelbiland5575lol
@@michaelbiland5575 Right, what influence have Js and Christianity ever had on the world? Not worth talking about it... lol.
Not that I would credit the theory either, mind. But people do use symbolism even if you don't find that symbolism credible.
In this post Epstein world, any & all are possible. Remember that.
Anything was possible before that.
That’s the fun thing about conspiracy theories: they’re all “possible.” Too bad that only about 1% of them turn out to be true…
In the post Epstein world, his same associates and confidantes are still rich, still in power and still free (except Ghislaine)
No cabal of PDFs need to kill people when they can get one of their own elected President
@@gregbors8364 Yeah I never bought into most of them. But some good starter ones are; FBI murdered MLK, CIA murdered JFK, Jeffery Epstein “Suicide”, The Diddy List & of course Kubrick’s Death.
@@No-1.In.ParticularRead much James Ellroy? I do. He's awesome
As soon as I heard this come up in the Joe Rogan podcast, I thought of you. So happy you’ve made this video.
you mean when Roger Avery regurgitates rumors he read written by someone else on the internet and attempted to pass them off as inside knowledge?
@AVeryHeavyAgenda Roger Avary is a full-blown redact. I say this same member of their Patreon.I like QT but I can't stand RA.
Roger Avary chatted absolute nonsense. Knows nothing about Kubrick.
That's the worst insult I've ever heard.
Hey Rob! Great Vid as always, thanks for that!
But NO mention of where some of the Scenes in EWS where filmed and which Family the Manor/Castle belongs to???
Greetings from Germany
I believe Stanley Kubrick passed away due to old age. I get the impression he hung on to complete his final film. With that in mind, i guess Stanley knew, in himself, he had nothing more to give. Eyes Wide Shut was a movie on Stanley's mind for many many years. I wish Warner Bros. would release Eyes Wide Shut in 4K and add the missing 20 minutes as extra material.
I doubt the footage exists.
@@Vingul It has to. It will be sitting somewhere.
When the headline is a closed question the answer is always “No”.
Nah
Stankey wasn't killed. Stanley, on the other hand, possibly.
Stankey Lubrick was murdered after his hit erotic sci-fi picture, "2001: A Sex Odyssey"
😂
I love the theories about Kubrick taking on the elite but if the studios cared that much about what Kubrick was revealing in Eyes Wide Shut, they would have buried the film.
my only argument to this point is the alleged 'revelation of the method' or the occultist custom of admission absolves them of any guilt.
@@elconquistador364 Or it could just be used as a Get Out of Jail card for weak arguments. If they wanted to reveal things from time to time they could just as easily let the film stand. Besides, child sex trafficking is already blatantly presented in the film already.
@@christophermacintyre5890 Or perhaps they were willing to let the film "as it stands", stand, but not Kubrick's original cut.
@@christophermacintyre5890 what weak agument free pass are you even talking about?
Maybe he made the suspicious edits on purpose and then punched out voluntarily, in order to create the exact atmosphere there currently is around his final film. That would be pretty genious.
The earth's flat, we never went to the moon, our politicians care about us, and Stanley Kubrick was assassinated. Makes sense.
A new conspiracy: David Bowie died two days after finishing Black Star.
Explain!
January 10th is the day that hurt me😢
My cat died around the same time. White with two different colour eyes. Named Snow.
He used to regularly walk around our neighborhood really early in the morning with virtually no security around him, taking morning strolls around in shades and regular relaxed clothing, I guess no one recognized him or I'd also like to think they knew but also respected his peace and privacy.
@@Madiewski234 And Prince, who was a Black star, died the same year. Coincidence???
@@gregbors8364 crazy indeed what a sad year that was😪
It was reported after Kubrick's death that the studio hired Steven Spielberg to look at it. He removed at least one shot, which apparently had a reflection of a boom operator in the bathtub faucet. It seemed far fetched at the time that Kubrick wouldn't have noticed that.........
@@MattJaissleFilms Reported where? But whom?
And Spielberg is very… questionable himself
why does that seem far fetched when Barry Lyndon one of his arguably most masterful movies that was the hardest to shoot has at least one noticable flood light stand rig pouring throigh one of the windows in the last 3rd of the movie? not saying you need to edcuate yourself more on Kubrick but it wouldnt hurt to watch some of Cinema Tyler who points out that mistake and more
but just to not sound like a full blown a-hole, I too probably would have thought the same thing just based on how much time Kubrick spent setting up his shots and the amount of takes he was knownt to do, the Barry Lyndon light mistake was pretty shocking when I first saw it
I remember seeing that!
No dream is ever just a dream…Fidelio, Mr Ager, Fidelio..
Been watching you for years. You have my favorite UA-cam channel.
Talking about things I’ve learned from your channel about cinema is the best way to deepen a conversation.
Thank you for what you do.
Love that this is organized essay style
This is not connected with the video but I just want you to know that I enjoy your website years ago before youtube. I always regularly checked it out. It was wonderful time, and seeing you make videos now is really an experience. Always love your insights.
Kubrick was the 70 year old man, a chain-smoking workaholic who never took vacationd. He led a sedentary life and was pushing himself to meet a deadline for his studio.
An associate of his was shocked to see how tired, old, and pale Cooper was during filming.
He was not a healthy man.
I think the big "mystery" surrounding Kubrick's death is that it didn't happen during production.
Best wishes from Vermont ❄️💙❄️
It's said he didn't start smoking again, till the very last
people love to ignore strange coincidences and focus on the conclusion they believe to be more tame and friendly to their world view. Can't allow the cage to get rocked can we?
@@enochianwolf The world a much more interesting place if you think it's a 24/7 X-files episode
@@tomverlaine728 no need for the supernatural or fantastic and mysterious entities. Plain and mundane human cruelty is enough to scare the normies into rationalizing crazier things still
@@tomverlaine728 this is to say, what fantasies people will create and reach for skyward, to avoid facing the hard truth at eye level, are more of a 24/7 X-Files episode than the actual reality they exist in. MANY examples.
You know how it’s annoying when people think EVERYTHING is a conspiracy theory? Rob is annoying sometimes because he believes nothing is a conspiracy theory. I roll my eyes more at people who don’t believe in anything.
You are right. Some people believe everything is a conspiracy and others believe nothing is. It takes intellect (and sometimes a lot of research) to figure out the truth.
@@completesentences2125 A lot of people don’t know the difference between the terms “conspiracy” and “conspiracy theory”
Subscribed. The choice was made, listening to your preamble. It was clear to me, you were a "reliable narrator"
Roger Avery said that he had a script on set with narration scenes that were supposed to be in the film. Shooting script. But we have no idea if he would add those in or not. By the way, the first adaptation of the novel was made into a movie in the 60s, and there was narration in the book. But it doesn’t mean Stanley Kubrick would use it in his film.
That draft of the script is online, you can read it. It does have a narrator. But Kubrick's script for 2001 also featured a narrator, which is non-existent in the movie. You'd think by now people would know that for Kubrick books, scripts, plots were never a blueprint, just a guide.
I blame whoever introduced cigarettes to Kubrick.
Apparently David Lynch recently revealed that he suffers from some illness now due to decades of smoking (He turns 79 in a couple of days) Sad to hear.
edit: It is emphysema
@@CarlFredrik-uo1cu fairly common disease for lifelong smokers, unfortunately.
It's the worst thing you can do for your health
The conspiracy, revealed.
@@colewilliams9432Heavy drinking is MUCH worse than smoking. For starters, Smoking appears to have positive cognitive benefits, while alcohol literally destroys brain cells.
What i find concerning in the comments here, as with most comments sections is the amount of people who state emphatically that they know what happened, and that what they believe must be the absolute truth, when it is patently obvious that it's impossible for them to know either way. People are strange creatures.
split brain, even stranger
the missing 22 minutes are from a 30 second insert he shot 44 times, of a coffee cup being placed on a table.
Has it been established that those 22 minutes refer to time of shooting the scene as opposed to time that was supposed to make it in the final cut?
Coffee cup is a Code 33 drop (CC = 33 = Code 33).
Fnord.
I just had a lightbulb moment - The Somerton Mansion is named after the Somerton man. Theres a wiki on it but in short hes a John Doe body who was never identified. No ID, all tags had been removed from his clothing. And he was wearing a nice suit.
Respectfully, people die. There is a mental illness involved with celebrity deaths. Respect the man by admiring his art. I do blame his family for some of the conspiracy behind his death. Being so private about it, considering who he was, just added fuel to the fire.
I can listen to this guy all day
Made my day Rob, thanks 👍🏻
Why not follow up on his daughter, when she’s still alive and has been occasionally in the news?
I did years ago and forgot about her until it was on my timeline again and I think I was the first person to respond and asked a question or two about his movies and it was pleasant enough and even joked about the Single release of the drill instructor song I have owed for decades. the things she posts are really entertaining but sad at the same time and really out there, so I stopped responding as I couldn’t really say what I wanted to say about these tweets posted since she got back on Twitter as I really couldn’t be arsed with it.
Shes claimed on Alex Jones show that they took stuff out of the movie, and probably killed him.
Is she still in that Scientology cult?
It’s fascinating to think about and it’s a shame we never got to see the extra scenes
A theory holds until it is rejected by irrefutable evidence
Tolkien died in 1973. 3791 is the number of rings of power, in order. Also, The Hobbit was published in 1937. Coincidences? :)
I was born in 1973 and I'm short.
We’re through the palantir, here, people… 🤯
Yes, yes as Garak said: "I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don't trust coincidences."
How is 3791 rings of power in order. Genuine question.
@@nondercrom The order in which they were forged,
the 3 elven rings first,
then the 7 dwarf rings. followed by the nine and the ONE:
Many years ago, Rob, you put out a video that briefly went into this subject. You raised the point that it would make no sense for a powerful, clandestine group to kill Kubrick as a result of him making Eyes Wide Shut and then allow the film to come out anyway.
I could pen a couple of scenarios where it could make sense. But youtube is really fussy on the subject and always snips my comments that go into details of fm.
Personally though, I think he just died from not taking care of himself. You always hear that story passed around like some sort of urban legend, a gym ghost story to entertain a dead conversation. It's like people become 13 when they relay it. It's very amusing to watch, actually, when even people like Tarantino do it.
I think it's strange that this video is presented by young Paul McCartney ( i assume an AI clone), who of course has his own conspiracy theory about having died and been replaced by a clone. (obligatory lol, /s, and rofl for those who think I am serious).
underrated. but Ager clearly better looking than uggo mccartney
I've watched dozens of videos on Stanley Kubricks life, and his film direction, some of which was required reading/viewing, in film school.
You did a masterful job on this interpretation. One of our film school visiting presenters brought up this topic, when talking about art getting TOO close to reality. 😊
Does anyone know if an intact copy exists?
I think Kubrick certainly knew things. Such as the mention of droogs drinking Drencrom, in Clockwork Orange, which is short for something else which people might have heard of in recent years. And of course the subplot in The Shining regarding Danny's abuse. And in Dr Strangelove, Jack D. Ripper talks about flouridation of water.
Drencrom was in the book though, that came out well before all the Qanon bullshxt. Furthermore Adrenochrome is neuro and cardiotoxic. Why would anybody want to feel like they’re going crazy and have a heart attack? It makes no sense at all. Also the amount of blood you’d have to drink to get a dose of adrenalin would make you physically ill before you’d feel anything.
Yep, he took his secrets to the grave. He probably attended a masked ball or two during his ascension, but maybe not. Could’ve just known fellow directors, actors, etc that attended them. Regardless, he was well aware of the underpinnings of Hollywood, big money players.
@@Psyfi85 I think there's more meaning to casting Tom Cruise in the role as well, perhaps even Tom himself & Nicole weren't aware of how purposeful it was at the time and remains today. It's more of a statement, beyond simply "a hot popular real life couple" that some say
What are you talking about? lol "Drencrom" is literally in Burgess's 1962 novel as the other option to drink besides Moloko Plus. It didn't come from Kubrick. It came from Burgess's novel. And the "subplot" of Danny's abuse by his alcoholic father is literally in Stephen King's novel, as well. "Strangelove" was ALSO a novel. Do you even know these films are based on books? Good grief. lol
@@redadamearthdon’t speak logic here sir…
Stanley Kubrick's daughter Katharina Kubrick, and grandson Joe. AMA
Some of the movie lovers of r/stanleykubrick asked us to do an AMA. So here we are. I (Joe) will be doing the typing. We're here for an hour or so now, then we'll be back later this evening.
Was Eyes Wide Shut complete when Stanley passed away? Did he take part in the censoring of the orgy scene, with the digital people?
Katharina: Yes he was. The censoring was done after his death as he had an agreement with Warner Brothers to produce an R rated movie. I am sure that he would have re-edited the offending scene to remove the 'thrusting' etc that was so offensive.
there you go. straight out of the horses mouth
@@poindextertunes Yeah that's the story I got from Jan Harlan when I asked him at a live event (video is on here), but the theories about a re-edit refer to completely different things, a lot more sinister.
What was Kubricks favourite movie to make? And what was his least?
Which did he enjoy the end results the most?
Did he ever mention 2001s meaning(s) and the riff with Steven King?
Also, how did he feel about Life? Was he an atheist?
Has anyone tried to track down the actress who played Tom Cruise's daughter to ask her if they filmed those scenes like the ending where she supposedly was taken away?
Why even suppose it, when nobody grabs her nor even takes her by the hand. It's just people with too much idle time on their hands making up junk.
@tonybennett4159 because there's good reason to believe the scene exists, Tarantino and another Hollywood guy talked about it on a podcast recently
@@tonybennett4159and yet she's clearly taken by them
@@tonybennett4159 I think Kubric's just to subtle for you.
@@willyupshaw That's the usual arrogant stuff I see. "I'm a very deep and instinctive person and I'm tuned in to things others less intuitively gifted cannot see". Nonsense. I've seen all Kubrick's films excluding the first two. Kubrick left clear images for us to interpret in his films, the most notable of course being 2001. In the final sequence he gives us plenty of time to look at the details in the strange otherworldly room. As in all his films he has quite a leisurely pace (some even criticise him for that). He never presents something that calls into question whether we've seen it or we haven't. He allows us the leisure to ponder what we have seen and put our own interpretation on it. I think you misunderstand the type of filmmaker he was.
Hi Rob. Hope my links were of use/interest. Looking fwd to the Pro side of the argument.
You need to speak with Jay Weidner who interviewed Kubriks personal assistant.
Shelley Duvall is a prime suspect. 😅