Mega_Gamer/Jeppe I used to think that but it really makes no sense, it wouldn’t make sense for him to try outright kill broly after even if it was the vegeta in him, would make more sense if he smiled cause he thought the battle was over cause he launched a powerful ki blast at him, and it’s never stated by anyone that soul punisher = stardust breaker cause if so why not just call it the same name
My take is this; Stardust Breaker doesn't kill evil things, it erases 'bad energy'. In Fusion Reborn, Gogeta says to Janemba "Your own bad energy will be your undoing", not meaning that he'll kill him because his evil, but that Stardust Breaker will erase the evil. When Gogeta used the attack against Janemba, the evil state crumbled away, leaving only the young demon who was possessed, because it destroyed the 'bad energy', leaving the innocence behind. When used against Broly, it didn't kill him, or erase any bad energy, because Broly wasn't the problem, it was his unkempt rage that was at fault. Broly was innocent through the whole thing, hence Gogeta smiled after using it because he thought he didn't have to kill him. This is why he smiled again when Broly was wished back to Vampa, because he didn't want to have to kill an innocent man.
The thing is, it DOES kill evil things by extension of erasing bad energy. You see, Fusion Reborn is not the first instance of "bad", "malevolent", or "evil" energy being mentioned in Dragon Ball's mythos. Evil Ki is an actual thing possessed by evil beings in Dragon Ball. This is why characters are able to point out how a Ki feels evil when they're sensing a new enemy they've never met before. However since Ki makes up your life force, if Gogeta were to use Soul Punisher on someone like Frieza, he'd probably explode from the inside like Janemba did, but unlike Janemba he wouldn't reform into anything because there is no good beneath a surface. Frieza is just evil. In DB, when a being is completely drained of all their Ki, they lose their life force and die. So naturally erasing bad energy (or evil Ki) would result in death for the malevolent entity who is being targeted.
Kind of, just not as severe. Devilman can literally kill those with any amount of evil present in their soul and only those with a pure heart can survive his technique. Stardust breaker purges any existing evil within the target. Since Janemba was made of pure evil energy it erased him completely. Broly, however isn't that evil, if at all and that's why we don't see as big of an effect on him. (I'm aware that fusion reborn isn't canon btw, I'm just speaking in terms of it being the same move.)
Soul Punisher is when he does the attack where he blitz them super fast proceeding with that flip kick and the stardust breaker is the actual ball technique.
@@findgod-exposeevil8442 no where did you get that from, why would that specific combo be called the soul punisher? The soul punisher is the old one, the stardust breaker is the new one
I think Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta did use the Soul Punisher. Or at least, its properties. When Gogeta kicked Omega Shenron's Negative Energy Ball, he converted it into Positive Energy, letting it explode in the outer atmosphere and take out all the Negative Energy surrounding the Earth. I don't know about you guys, but that kinda sounds like what the Soul Punisher does. Cleansing all the Negative Energy. So I think Gogeta not only converted Omega's energy ball, but actually gave it the Soul Punisher. Since just raw ki alone wouldn't be able to cleanse all of that evil energy around the planet, so a bit of Soul Punisher had to have been used. But that's just my opinion.
@@bojakguacamole9688So Gogeta himself is just some kind of positive energy generator? That WOULD explain the random rainbows associated with his being I guess
It's a transformation they don't really understand right? Sure it's similar to Super Saiyan but it's obviously different from the lack of control? What do you call something you don't understand? Demonic certainly is an option for that.
I always thought the stardust breaker destroyed the souls of beings of pure evil, whenever I played one of the dbz games I dont remember what one I always picked gogeta and I'd always try to finish off my opponent with the stardust breaker and for some reason I always called it the gay pride ball lol
Due to how unexplained the technique is, we don't really know what it does and thus, it falls into our own thoughts and head-canons. But I agree it's something along those lines!
I like to believe that the Stardust breaker is just a mutation of the spirit bomb. I wanna say that the Goku side of Gogeta went to use a spirit bomb, but because the Vegeta side doesn't know the technique it came out oddly colored and has different physics.
No because spirit bomb has to gather genki or health energy in order for it to be a spirit bomb but stardust breaker can be inspired by the spirit bomb because the spirit bomb apparently “only kills evil”
kills negative energy and if a person is only bad he dies, if he is pure hearted it doesn't even hurt him but if he is not PURE hearted but just a good person it hurts him but doesn't kill him
I personally think that Gogeta didn’t use all of the Stardust Breaker / Soul Punisher’s full energy seeing how he didn’t finish the ball by turning it into sparkles, but instead just throwing the ball at Broly.
The way I see it is, it of ignores durability against someone who is evil, and does more damage to those with a little bit evil, and those who aren’t evil just take damage normally. It still damaged Broly, who isn’t evil, and it is most commonly used in games, in which it effects everyone.
Most likely Stardust Breaker could be a fusion between Big Bang Attack and Spirit Bomb, that can still inflict damage, but also grows stronger if the target is evil?
Yeah, I'm just a bit iffy since they usually share parts of their name, like final kamehameha, and big bang kamehameha, so Stardust Breaker would be an outlier. Probably just a fusion exclusive technique like the Ghost Kamikazes, or DIE DIE missle barrage
Aren't spirit bomb and god punished connected? Because stardust breaker is a combo of attacks that damage your opponent then you use soul punisher to delete all the evil content he's got inside of him but god punisher is another thing, I this is 2 blue god balls that paralyse your opponent movements then the evil opponent gets hit by several god balls that hurt his body and not his soul then gogeta used the soul punisher to delete the evil content on broly's soul then gogeta smiled because when he saw that broly was still alive he knew broly was a good and pure guy then he looked at the sky and saw dragon balls so he decided to end up the fight with a full force Kamehameha because he taught frieza was behind all of this. Well this was my opinion because those attacks are really similar each other so am I right ?
Wait but, in Gogeta vs Janemba he shrinked the star breaker and threw it at him like some dust and sparkles, but in Gogeta vs Broly he didn't he formed it and threw it instead of shrinking it and throwing dust and sparkles at the enemie.
Yes it make sense since Gogeta is more Goku and Goku always try to purify his enemy and give them the chance to change before he kills them. Cause when broly didn't stop after tthe stardust breaker he just did a combo to finish him with the kamakamaya
Not necessarily, it only killed Janemba because he was made up of nothing but evil energy, so when the attack purified him, there was nothing left. So far we don't know how lethal the attack can get, but considering Broly was hurt by the attack yet remained alive, it mainly depends on how evil the victim is.
@@jamiemcauliffe457 No which is why it didn't harm Broly as there was nothing impure in him to erase. Theoretically Gogeta (if he turned evil) could possibly modify the attack to disintegrate anybody just like the Hakai would but thats just my head canon...
@TSR I think so too! I believe Gogeta could have also modified the Stardust Breaker to be more destructive, so it can deal physical damage too if he wants. If you count the games and see the way he hurts everyone with that move, this would be a great explanation lol.
Does it have any correlation to the attack devil man used on Goku in the original Dragon Ball? Both attacks do damage depending on how "pure"/"impure" the person is
As of now, there is no official correlation between the two aside from them having similar executions and outcomes. It would be interesting if the two were connected in a way though!
If he realized he was pure WHY AND I MEAN WHY did he try to make him a non cannon character again? He didnt smile because he was pure.. He smiled because he could keep beating his ass some more. He didnt even full power the kamehameha he fired.. He just like... Idk
I believe that the Stardust Breaker actually did effect in Broly, because he has a little of evil in him (totally understandable, he was deceived and manipulated by his father, he technically got a little of his evil in him), after the impact, Broly stops acting in rage and just acts in fear, he clearly is just fighting for survival, and the ability also effects some damage in Broly, just doesn't kill him So, what I am trying to say is: the Stardust Breaker actually wiped out the evil inside him, but the little to no fraction the he had because of Paragus
Basically star dusr breaker is a concept level attack means it's basically erase concept of evil from the opponent. Similar to that villain in kid goku series .
But than the question arises that since gogeta knew that broly wasn't pure evil after using the soul punisher why would he go for kamehameha at the end that could potentially kill broly, and it wasn't the he couldn't contain broly so he had no other option but to put him down he was dominating the whole fight?
I’m sure it boils down to Gogeta imagining how destructive and how powerful Broly had gotten, and how much he could continue to progress. At that point, in favor of preventing the destruction of the universe, he had to sacrifice Broly in order to prevent him from losing further control and becoming more unstoppable.
Bruh Those Fans That Dont Know What The Soul Punisher Can Do Are Not Epic The SP is a technique gogetas strongest it kills those who have evil intent or even if u have the slightest evil intent it Littlery Destroys Ur Soul
You would think so and I'm sure if the Zamasu portion of the fusion weren't immortal, he'd be gone in an instant. But considering Zamasu is immortal and Goku Black is not, it's hard to say for sure what would happen
InnovativeJdawg oh k interesting tbh I just think it would do tons of damage but not kill cause merge zamasu was still immortal and I also find it another version of hakai but weaker imo
Watch Salad Saiyan’s video on what if Vegeta achieved Super Saiyan 3? Vegeta and Goku would train together nonstop in the afterlife and learn the fusion dance. They only used it as a last resort against Merged Zamasu and Gogeta, as Super Saiyan Blue, used the Stardust Breaker against Merged Zamasu, erasing his body and his immortal soul too, eradicating him completely.
You think it could damage any enemy, but the more corrupted the person is, the more damage it deals to them by erasing their corruptness and using its energy on them?
Pretty interesting thought. Perhaps the Stardust Breaker is a combination technique of the two fighters similar to Final Kamehameha? Maybe it's a Spirit Bomb mixed with something of Vegeta's like his Dirty Fireworks attack, no one knows though
@@InnovativeJdawg Yes Fusions Have That 1 Unique Ability Gogeta- *Soul Punisher* Gotenks- *Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack* Vegito- *Banshee Blast* And So On
Iv'e always thought of it as a spirit bomb made solely of Gogeta's Ki (Why would you need other people when you are as strong as Gogeta). After forming, its physical form is broken down into dust which retains the anti evil properties of the spirit bomb.
We haven't seen this technique used by either Goku or Vegeta, so it's safe to assume it's a fusion-exclusive technique (like the Final Kamehameha). With that in mind, I wonder if it's some sort of mixture like the Final Kamehameha. Maybe it has something to do with the Spirit Bomb?
Gogeta soul punisher only works on pure evil in but not the good borly was like a lost dog not evil jameba become a kid when turn NORMAL the kid wasn't evil
Technically both, I've seen people refer to it with both names. If you want to get technical though, Stardust Breaker is the actual orb of energy Gogeta throws and Soul Punisher is that rush attack he does to Janemba before forming the energy
Honestly have no idea, from my understanding, Zamasu isn't really pure evil like Janemba was, but he just had evil tendencies so it would definitely hurt him. Interesting concept though
So if I’m getting this straight, the Stardust Breaker affects the soul of the opponent, purifying them of their evil and hurting them as any other attack would. The question I have is how does one form the attack? A ki attack that attacks the soul directly? We don’t really have anything else like that in Dragon Ball lore, canon or no. I’d imagine that Gogeta, being a fusion of opposite personality Goku and Vegeta, would be able to use this attack via a balance of the soul and spirit. But that’s just my idea.
Well actually in the original DB we got that Akkuman dude with the Akkumite beam who did basically the same thing and fought against kid goku, so goku having seen that would try to do a similar thing. Now, asking WHY goku didn't do that against any other pure evil guy he met (like you know, EVERY SINGLE VILLAIN) is a whole another story ahahah. Still love DB despite these plot holes tho
Andrea Polacci Oh! I forgot about him! So your saying that like the Akkuman Beam, the Stardust Breaker amplifies the negative parts of someone’s soul to hurt and destroy them. Since it is useless against someone who is pure-hearted, that means that when Broly was hit by it, it probably did not damage him? That makes sense. Though how one pulls off the attack, I’m still not sure. How do you take someone’s evilness and kill them with it? Does it amplify the user’s pure soul to destroy the opponent’s evil soul?
@@Kingj987 Honestly that’s a good question. I know the attack targets and eliminates evil, and what Beerus does as a job could probably be seen as evil? Maybe? This is actually a pretty good topic for a discussion!
Honestly, i think Broly is even MORE kind/pure hearted than Goku, why? cus Goku had more bad experiences than him + Goku is a "warmonger" he is crazy for fights, he likes fighting, he even gives villains senzu beans.. why? cus he want to fight the guy at his max, not weakened, cus deep down he CRAVES a battle. I think he practices kindness etc and forgiveness because he beat his head and forgot most things, but he learned those things from his grandpa, and the humans, however, the saiyan in him is just as cold hearted as Vegeta, Vegeta can throw a ki blast into a crowd and he doesnt even CARE, Goku wouldnt do that because he learned like "this is wrong, dont do this" he is more "humane" but still just as "inhuman" and "alien" u know like, just like the viltrumites, they are even more alien than the saiyans obviously but, have similarities.
@@AbueloLS They’re supposed to be the same attack as long as that stardust ball of energy is in the attack. The Soul Punisher is the combo that leads INTO the stardust breaker, and the breaker is that action where he forms it and throws it in both movies. Also as a side note, when he does that one move where he raises his hands and Broly explodes, that’s Stardust Explosion / Meteor Explosion
You Can even see SSB Gogeta smile as he realises that Broly has a pure heart😊 or at least that’s why i Think he smiled👌
I personally think that's why as well, but who knows, he could've smiled cause he thought it killed him haha
@@InnovativeJdawg maybe :3
@@InnovativeJdawg that would be cold as fuck
sm1carnage most likely since if broly was pure hearted he wouldn’t try and kill him XD
Mega_Gamer/Jeppe I used to think that but it really makes no sense, it wouldn’t make sense for him to try outright kill broly after even if it was the vegeta in him, would make more sense if he smiled cause he thought the battle was over cause he launched a powerful ki blast at him, and it’s never stated by anyone that soul punisher = stardust breaker cause if so why not just call it the same name
Technically janemba didnt die, he was purified back into the guy he was before.
That's fair, but they are two seperate entities. The boy lived, Janemba, the evil that possessed him, was cleansed and died in the process.
My take is this; Stardust Breaker doesn't kill evil things, it erases 'bad energy'. In Fusion Reborn, Gogeta says to Janemba "Your own bad energy will be your undoing", not meaning that he'll kill him because his evil, but that Stardust Breaker will erase the evil. When Gogeta used the attack against Janemba, the evil state crumbled away, leaving only the young demon who was possessed, because it destroyed the 'bad energy', leaving the innocence behind. When used against Broly, it didn't kill him, or erase any bad energy, because Broly wasn't the problem, it was his unkempt rage that was at fault. Broly was innocent through the whole thing, hence Gogeta smiled after using it because he thought he didn't have to kill him. This is why he smiled again when Broly was wished back to Vampa, because he didn't want to have to kill an innocent man.
The thing is, it DOES kill evil things by extension of erasing bad energy.
You see, Fusion Reborn is not the first instance of "bad", "malevolent", or "evil" energy being mentioned in Dragon Ball's mythos. Evil Ki is an actual thing possessed by evil beings in Dragon Ball. This is why characters are able to point out how a Ki feels evil when they're sensing a new enemy they've never met before. However since Ki makes up your life force, if Gogeta were to use Soul Punisher on someone like Frieza, he'd probably explode from the inside like Janemba did, but unlike Janemba he wouldn't reform into anything because there is no good beneath a surface. Frieza is just evil.
In DB, when a being is completely drained of all their Ki, they lose their life force and die. So naturally erasing bad energy (or evil Ki) would result in death for the malevolent entity who is being targeted.
Stardust breaker+A pure evil person= Death
gotcha
Thank you for saving me a lot of time.
Why not use that on zamasu?
Lol
@@drei7970 Cause vegito don't have that technique, instead he has his final kame-hame-ha
No idiot what i meant by that was why not fuse to gogeta instead and use that technique since zamasu is pure evil?
Because he is immortal
This technique is actually smart i wish i had this so my friends were all pure good lol
But that would mean they disintegrate cuz they are pure evil
it's a 50% if they have a little good within them and not all evil so people can not die on impact.
Lol
@@theboi3330 well that’s their fault
So it's similar to devilman's devilmite beam in terms of "evil targets"
In a way, yeah!
Kind of, just not as severe. Devilman can literally kill those with any amount of evil present in their soul and only those with a pure heart can survive his technique. Stardust breaker purges any existing evil within the target. Since Janemba was made of pure evil energy it erased him completely. Broly, however isn't that evil, if at all and that's why we don't see as big of an effect on him. (I'm aware that fusion reborn isn't canon btw, I'm just speaking in terms of it being the same move.)
I thought it was called Soul Punisher
This attack can be called both the Stardust Breaker and Soul Punisher
The old one is called soul punisher, the new one is stardust breaker
Soul Punisher is when he does the attack where he blitz them super fast proceeding with that flip kick and the stardust breaker is the actual ball technique.
@@findgod-exposeevil8442 no where did you get that from, why would that specific combo be called the soul punisher? The soul punisher is the old one, the stardust breaker is the new one
@@R.M.CProductions stardust breaker name was in the old games as well as soul punisher.
Great video! I always loved stardust breaker.
Thank you! I've always liked the attack as well
Im loving all the content keep up the good work
Glad to hear! I appreciate it
Someone finally made a video over this, thank you lol
No problem, hope you enjoyed!
InnovativeJdawg I sure did 👍
I think Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta did use the Soul Punisher. Or at least, its properties.
When Gogeta kicked Omega Shenron's Negative Energy Ball, he converted it into Positive Energy, letting it explode in the outer atmosphere and take out all the Negative Energy surrounding the Earth. I don't know about you guys, but that kinda sounds like what the Soul Punisher does. Cleansing all the Negative Energy. So I think Gogeta not only converted Omega's energy ball, but actually gave it the Soul Punisher. Since just raw ki alone wouldn't be able to cleanse all of that evil energy around the planet, so a bit of Soul Punisher had to have been used. But that's just my opinion.
No when gogeta explained it he said he put some of his own life energy into it which turned it into the positive energy
@@bojakguacamole9688So Gogeta himself is just some kind of positive energy generator?
That WOULD explain the random rainbows associated with his being I guess
@Lio-rz7tx idk bro that comment was like 2 years ago I would I have to rewatch the video and comment to remember exactly what I was talking about
@@bojakguacamole9688 A discussion never truly ends my friend!
interesting concept especially considering the dragon ball super manga cabba states that kale's transformation is a "demonic" transformation
It's a transformation they don't really understand right? Sure it's similar to Super Saiyan but it's obviously different from the lack of control? What do you call something you don't understand? Demonic certainly is an option for that.
I always thought the stardust breaker destroyed the souls of beings of pure evil, whenever I played one of the dbz games I dont remember what one I always picked gogeta and I'd always try to finish off my opponent with the stardust breaker and for some reason I always called it the gay pride ball lol
Due to how unexplained the technique is, we don't really know what it does and thus, it falls into our own thoughts and head-canons. But I agree it's something along those lines!
lol i cant
Gay pride ball UwU
I like to believe that the Stardust breaker is just a mutation of the spirit bomb. I wanna say that the Goku side of Gogeta went to use a spirit bomb, but because the Vegeta side doesn't know the technique it came out oddly colored and has different physics.
No because spirit bomb has to gather genki or health energy in order for it to be a spirit bomb but stardust breaker can be inspired by the spirit bomb because the spirit bomb apparently “only kills evil”
kills negative energy and if a person is only bad he dies, if he is pure hearted it doesn't even hurt him but if he is not PURE hearted but just a good person it hurts him but doesn't kill him
I personally think that Gogeta didn’t use all of the Stardust Breaker / Soul Punisher’s full energy seeing how he didn’t finish the ball by turning it into sparkles, but instead just throwing the ball at Broly.
still, it’s comprised of the same energy is relative formation. even the small spirit bomb had the special effect.
Best explanation so far :D
I like to think the stardust breaker is a spirit bomb mixed with the big bang attack
Cool idea!
Perfect explanation 👍
I'm just waiting until you hit 5k ;)
Hopefully it'll be soon!
The way I see it is, it of ignores durability against someone who is evil, and does more damage to those with a little bit evil, and those who aren’t evil just take damage normally. It still damaged Broly, who isn’t evil, and it is most commonly used in games, in which it effects everyone.
I already knew but great explanation👌👌
Thanks!
I was wandering about the attack and how it worked. Good to know
I'm late since I was sleep buuuut great vid
Thank ya!
@@InnovativeJdawg ya welkom
@@InnovativeJdawg dope a ❤️ thanks
Gogeta best fusion
Fun fact goku even stated that broly is not evil during their fight while broly was in gokus god bind technique
Thanks for the heart
Enoch Arts it’s gone now
@@ericshen8965 oh I didn't know why this cruel world
Most likely Stardust Breaker could be a fusion between Big Bang Attack and Spirit Bomb, that can still inflict damage, but also grows stronger if the target is evil?
That could very well be a possibility, especially since we know technique fusions are a possibility!
Yeah, I'm just a bit iffy since they usually share parts of their name, like final kamehameha, and big bang kamehameha, so Stardust Breaker would be an outlier. Probably just a fusion exclusive technique like the Ghost Kamikazes, or DIE DIE missle barrage
Love your vids bro
M and J vlogs Thank you!
Aren't spirit bomb and god punished connected? Because stardust breaker is a combo of attacks that damage your opponent then you use soul punisher to delete all the evil content he's got inside of him but god punisher is another thing, I this is 2 blue god balls that paralyse your opponent movements then the evil opponent gets hit by several god balls that hurt his body and not his soul then gogeta used the soul punisher to delete the evil content on broly's soul then gogeta smiled because when he saw that broly was still alive he knew broly was a good and pure guy then he looked at the sky and saw dragon balls so he decided to end up the fight with a full force Kamehameha because he taught frieza was behind all of this. Well this was my opinion because those attacks are really similar each other so am I right ?
They are potentially similar but as of now, it's up to what we think individually.
@superken54 true except the soul punisher to finish off up
Just Some Guy With A Beard I saw you in some blox piece vids
@@zakiaazizee6606 which videos?
Just Some Guy With A Beard blox piece the roblox game
it has pretty sparkles with pretty colors that are very pleasing to my brian
The way I love to see Soul punisher IS that aggainst normal oppoments it's powerful BLAST attack and aggainst evil being it Can work as Hakai
It's a very diverse attack, makes it very interesting!
@@InnovativeJdawg yup definitely
Star dust breaker is just spirt bomb and big bang because only pure heart can charge the bomb and only pure heart can survive the breaker
Wait but, in Gogeta vs Janemba he shrinked the star breaker and threw it at him like some dust and sparkles, but in Gogeta vs Broly he didn't he formed it and threw it instead of shrinking it and throwing dust and sparkles at the enemie.
We don't know enough about the attack to give a full answer but it could just be different variations of the same attack
Thanks t for explaining 😁
Yes it make sense since Gogeta is more Goku and Goku always try to purify his enemy and give them the chance to change before he kills them. Cause when broly didn't stop after tthe stardust breaker he just did a combo to finish him with the kamakamaya
The stardust breaker power wasn't at its full form as being pure lights sparkle dust.
So it will kill anything not pure of heart?
Not necessarily, it only killed Janemba because he was made up of nothing but evil energy, so when the attack purified him, there was nothing left.
So far we don't know how lethal the attack can get, but considering Broly was hurt by the attack yet remained alive, it mainly depends on how evil the victim is.
InnovativeJdawg so if it was used on someone pure of heart would it harm them?
@@jamiemcauliffe457 No which is why it didn't harm Broly as there was nothing impure in him to erase. Theoretically Gogeta (if he turned evil) could possibly modify the attack to disintegrate anybody just like the Hakai would but thats just my head canon...
TSR ah thanks
@TSR I think so too! I believe Gogeta could have also modified the Stardust Breaker to be more destructive, so it can deal physical damage too if he wants.
If you count the games and see the way he hurts everyone with that move, this would be a great explanation lol.
The gayer something looks, the stronger it is. Anime 101.
So basically jojo?
@@StuffyJoe Boku no Pico?
Jojo
@@Lucky-sq3ky Lmao dude
Zarbon: oooh!
Which do you prefer a belt or the stardust breaker
Does it have any correlation to the attack devil man used on Goku in the original Dragon Ball? Both attacks do damage depending on how "pure"/"impure" the person is
As of now, there is no official correlation between the two aside from them having similar executions and outcomes. It would be interesting if the two were connected in a way though!
That's the Hakai in the old days.
For sure
If he realized he was pure WHY AND I MEAN WHY did he try to make him a non cannon character again? He didnt smile because he was pure.. He smiled because he could keep beating his ass some more. He didnt even full power the kamehameha he fired.. He just like... Idk
I believe that the Stardust Breaker actually did effect in Broly, because he has a little of evil in him (totally understandable, he was deceived and manipulated by his father, he technically got a little of his evil in him), after the impact, Broly stops acting in rage and just acts in fear, he clearly is just fighting for survival, and the ability also effects some damage in Broly, just doesn't kill him
So, what I am trying to say is: the Stardust Breaker actually wiped out the evil inside him, but the little to no fraction the he had because of Paragus
So In A Way Soul Punisher And Spirit Bomb Are Sort Of Alike
Lol. I forgot Stardust is one of the weakness of Alian x's and his species
It's like the devil mite beam?
In a way, the two are similar, they're not quite the same but their purpose is very similar!
The soul punisher is the Hakai for evil.
Stardust Breaker / Soul Punisher probably comes from Goku’s pure energy because he always tends to give a second chance
For me Stardust Breaker for purification effect very effective in Janemba
It seems to be an energy very similar to Hakai.
Potentially!
It’s more like a perfected version of the spirit bomb
Basically star dusr breaker is a concept level attack means it's basically erase concept of evil from the opponent.
Similar to that villain in kid goku series .
It cleanses the evil inside of people (not damaging them)
It has been shown to do both. Look at Broly, who got injured from the attack while getting cleansed at the same time
@@InnovativeJdawg oh i never noticed he got hurt. I just saw his silhouette
But than the question arises that since gogeta knew that broly wasn't pure evil after using the soul punisher why would he go for kamehameha at the end that could potentially kill broly, and it wasn't the he couldn't contain broly so he had no other option but to put him down he was dominating the whole fight?
I’m sure it boils down to Gogeta imagining how destructive and how powerful Broly had gotten, and how much he could continue to progress. At that point, in favor of preventing the destruction of the universe, he had to sacrifice Broly in order to prevent him from losing further control and becoming more unstoppable.
Does star dust breaker work on a opponent stronger than him??
DBS Broly Deserves A Hug.
Who missed broly repeatedly saying kakarot
You think when SSJ4 Gogeta kicked Omega's Minus Energy Ball back, he used the technique in his foot?
Hard to say but it would be cool if he did
I thought it was called soul punisher
Gogeta saw non cannon belly and said I’ll purify him
I love how broly didnt die cuz he isn’t evil, he’s just one angy boy
On a related note, Fat Janemba is barely evil, I wonder how that works
Its like Hakai
Bruh Those Fans That Dont Know What The Soul Punisher Can Do Are Not Epic
The SP is a technique gogetas strongest it kills those who have evil intent or even if u have the slightest evil intent it Littlery Destroys Ur Soul
Is there a difference between cannon stardust breaker, and the non cannon
So would stardust breaker kill merge zamasu since he’s pure evil
You would think so and I'm sure if the Zamasu portion of the fusion weren't immortal, he'd be gone in an instant. But considering Zamasu is immortal and Goku Black is not, it's hard to say for sure what would happen
InnovativeJdawg oh k interesting tbh I just think it would do tons of damage but not kill cause merge zamasu was still immortal and I also find it another version of hakai but weaker imo
Watch Salad Saiyan’s video on what if Vegeta achieved Super Saiyan 3? Vegeta and Goku would train together nonstop in the afterlife and learn the fusion dance. They only used it as a last resort against Merged Zamasu and Gogeta, as Super Saiyan Blue, used the Stardust Breaker against Merged Zamasu, erasing his body and his immortal soul too, eradicating him completely.
You think it could damage any enemy, but the more corrupted the person is, the more damage it deals to them by erasing their corruptness and using its energy on them?
We all knew broly was pure hearted
I love it, everytime I play Xenoverse 2 with my friends I always cleanse their souls😂😂😂
The stardust breaker is the most op tenic because in dbsagas they are plenty of evil xd
Gogeta used God Punisher on Broly not Soul Punisher
They both feed into the Stardust Breaker, so they essentially serve the same purpose
Starbreaker could hurt people have pure heart too
There’s no evidence of this yet
So its hokuto shin ken but in a ball
Hmmm wonder why Goku can't use the technique, why does when he combines with Vegeta he is able to
Pretty interesting thought. Perhaps the Stardust Breaker is a combination technique of the two fighters similar to Final Kamehameha? Maybe it's a Spirit Bomb mixed with something of Vegeta's like his Dirty Fireworks attack, no one knows though
@@InnovativeJdawg Yes Fusions Have That 1 Unique Ability Gogeta- *Soul Punisher*
Gotenks- *Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack*
Vegito- *Banshee Blast*
And So On
My thoughts are that those types of abilities were exclusive to the Metamorans such as soul punisher, the ghost attack, and that volleyball attack.
Iv'e always thought of it as a spirit bomb made solely of Gogeta's Ki (Why would you need other people when you are as strong as Gogeta). After forming, its physical form is broken down into dust which retains the anti evil properties of the spirit bomb.
Interesting theory! Makes sense in retrospect
TLDR: Soul Punisher is just a perfected version of the Super Spirit Bomb.
Does anyone know if Goku can use this technique solo??
We haven't seen this technique used by either Goku or Vegeta, so it's safe to assume it's a fusion-exclusive technique (like the Final Kamehameha).
With that in mind, I wonder if it's some sort of mixture like the Final Kamehameha. Maybe it has something to do with the Spirit Bomb?
It destory you from the inside?
No that's what I initially thought as a kid
The spirit bomb is repelled by buu because he is a divine being as he got his power from supreme Kai grand
Gogeta soul punisher only works on pure evil in but not the good borly was like a lost dog not evil jameba become a kid when turn NORMAL the kid wasn't evil
I'm confusion is it soul punisher or stardust breaker
Technically both, I've seen people refer to it with both names. If you want to get technical though, Stardust Breaker is the actual orb of energy Gogeta throws and Soul Punisher is that rush attack he does to Janemba before forming the energy
Would it 1 shot zamasu?
Honestly have no idea, from my understanding, Zamasu isn't really pure evil like Janemba was, but he just had evil tendencies so it would definitely hurt him. Interesting concept though
Imagine if Gogeta is used in the Zamazu arc, I think it will be a easy win if the Stardust breaker is used on Zamazu.
Soul punisher for the longtime fans and the new comers can call it stardust breaker 😂😂 its still a og attack they brought back !!
Don’t u have to be stronger than your opponent for it to work just like hakai Bc gogeta can’t use it someone stronger than him
One of them was dust the other was a ball
Its like devilmite beam then
So if I’m getting this straight, the Stardust Breaker affects the soul of the opponent, purifying them of their evil and hurting them as any other attack would.
The question I have is how does one form the attack? A ki attack that attacks the soul directly? We don’t really have anything else like that in Dragon Ball lore, canon or no.
I’d imagine that Gogeta, being a fusion of opposite personality Goku and Vegeta, would be able to use this attack via a balance of the soul and spirit. But that’s just my idea.
Well actually in the original DB we got that Akkuman dude with the Akkumite beam who did basically the same thing and fought against kid goku, so goku having seen that would try to do a similar thing. Now, asking WHY goku didn't do that against any other pure evil guy he met (like you know, EVERY SINGLE VILLAIN) is a whole another story ahahah. Still love DB despite these plot holes tho
Andrea Polacci Oh! I forgot about him! So your saying that like the Akkuman Beam, the Stardust Breaker amplifies the negative parts of someone’s soul to hurt and destroy them.
Since it is useless against someone who is pure-hearted, that means that when Broly was hit by it, it probably did not damage him? That makes sense.
Though how one pulls off the attack, I’m still not sure. How do you take someone’s evilness and kill them with it? Does it amplify the user’s pure soul to destroy the opponent’s evil soul?
Why is the video made at 12:20 AM!!!!!!!!!!
Mainly cause that's when I finished it lmao
Ik that's fine
I wonder if this attack would kill beerus
@@Kingj987 Honestly that’s a good question. I know the attack targets and eliminates evil, and what Beerus does as a job could probably be seen as evil? Maybe? This is actually a pretty good topic for a discussion!
Janemba and broly disliked this video
Damn im late
Nah you right on time
Stardust Breaker look like Goku Spirit bomb fuse with Vegeta Bing Bang Attack
Honestly, i think Broly is even MORE kind/pure hearted than Goku, why? cus Goku had more bad experiences than him + Goku is a "warmonger" he is crazy for fights, he likes fighting, he even gives villains senzu beans.. why? cus he want to fight the guy at his max, not weakened, cus deep down he CRAVES a battle. I think he practices kindness etc and forgiveness because he beat his head and forgot most things, but he learned those things from his grandpa, and the humans, however, the saiyan in him is just as cold hearted as Vegeta, Vegeta can throw a ki blast into a crowd and he doesnt even CARE, Goku wouldnt do that because he learned like "this is wrong, dont do this" he is more "humane" but still just as "inhuman" and "alien" u know like, just like the viltrumites, they are even more alien than the saiyans obviously but, have similarities.
Real answer is: WE DONT KNOW.
So do you guys think that only Gogeta can use it or everyone?
Bro for the last time that is the stardust breaker is the combo in to the soul punisher
You have it backwards. Soul Punisher is the combo, Breaker is the attack, that’s why it has sparkles in it because it’s “stardust”
I always thought that stardust was when he grabs it and crushes it in his hand rather then throwing it like in dbs broly
@@AbueloLS They’re supposed to be the same attack as long as that stardust ball of energy is in the attack. The Soul Punisher is the combo that leads INTO the stardust breaker, and the breaker is that action where he forms it and throws it in both movies.
Also as a side note, when he does that one move where he raises his hands and Broly explodes, that’s Stardust Explosion / Meteor Explosion
That is not meteor explosion because meteor explosion is the one where he trapped his in the ki bind while his arms are crossed
So in short stardust breaker is a cheap ass name for holy water
Nah, more like a fancy way of saying it lol. Sounds cool to me!
I like Soul Punisher better than Stardust Breaker
or maybe broly is that durable cmon give the guy some credit
That's fair, he could've been
Shouldn’t I be doing that!