Replacing the ABC Pump in a 2003 Mercedes CL600 V12 W215
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2020
- Step by step how to on replacing the ABC hydraulic suspension pump in my 2003 Mercedes CL600 V12 Twin Turbo W215. This is basically the same procedure for most Mercedes ABC equipped cars. Not to bad really...Took about 4 hours total. Thanks for watching!!!
Nice video. Even though it is a lot of work your video showed that it can be done as long as you have time and patience. Even though the ABC suspension can be a nightmare I am still not afraid of a CL. Dealing with the ABC suspension is part of owning a CL/S Class and the SL. The system is under very high pressure so you can imagine that parts will eventually need to be replaced at some point especially if you don’t flush it regularly.
Yep with these cars it's sort of a trade-off. The torque and power I think are worth the maintenance and if it wasn't for the maintenance these cars would be crazy expensive still. Thanks for watching!
Cassidy thank you sir for all these educational and very informative w215 content.
No problem more too come! Most of the stuff I'm going to do on the 03 S600 applies to the W215 as well. I'll always love the W215 chassis - its way underappreciated!!
Im having the exact same issue with my CL55. Just noisy and unable to rodeo. Definitely looking forward to checking out more of your content!
Thank you. followed step by step.This helped replacing pump.2003 mercedes cl600. What a pain but possible. Thanks again.
Awesome great job getting it done Bud! Glad it was a helpful.
The most important thing is your honesty,
Thanks Santos! Look for more V12 Mercedes videos coming soon!
I replaced the tandem pump on my SL65. Access to the is pump nearly non-existent. Definitely harder to access than what I see here on the CL. I spent several days working on it. I found a reman pump on Amazon which looked exactly like the replacement you got (entire pump painted gray, including the fittings). I stripped it and repainted it properly. I kept my core and rebuilt it as a spare for "next time". The issue was the steel reservoir on the front of the pump had a hairline crack from one of the internal pistons which had backed out, causing a slow leak from the crack.
Wow Michael nice work! I love the Sl65...maybe the best V12 Mercedes...hope to get one along the way. There can't be any spare room in that engine bay though! Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Thanks for the vid. This encourage me to get also a CL
Go for it!!! These may be the best almost exotics out there:-) thanks for watching!!
Hi from your other video. So I’m going in today to change valve blocks and accumulators. I need to operate the car off the ramp to get it on jack stands. My question is if I disconnect the pump (that black part @ 10:00) will it disable the pump so it doesn’t shoot fluid all over when I move the car? Currently valve blocks are off and I don’t want to make a mess or waste the oil which is quite expensive!
Cassidy can you tell me if the 2 pressure lines with the 19mm bolt are both for the abc struts or is it just one of them
Is the SL500 Roadster easier to replace? And should the ABC pump be replaced as preventative maintenance. Car has 73k had a fluid flush and the 2 front struts replaced last year. Car garage kept and only goes out on nice days, she is clean!
Hey! I watched your channel for years, I remember when I wanted to get my W215/W220! This year I finally did! But my ABC hose blew this week and one of my struts was bad! Also my ABC pump makes that annoying sound when you drive the car! Im gonna get the YellowSpeedRacing coil overs, i need a non ABC pump, so it will be the same procedure as this right? Removing the ABC pump and just putting in a regular power steering pump? Thanks!!!
By the way thankyou for this video!
do you know where the ABC module is?
Before I go ahead and change out the pump, I just had a quick question which may seem obvious but here goes. If the pump is faulty, would it still be able to pump the passenger side up vs both sides. I asked a mechanic online and they said it was the pump based on all the other information I provided but this very basic fact that it lifts one side makes me believe the pump is still good. Awesome video by the way for fellow Benz owners!
No way to know for sure but I doubt it is the pump.(Unless you have a scan tool/star diagnostics and can do a rodeo test) More likely one of the valve blocks or one of the struts themselves are bad. I'm with you, if the pump was bad it wouldn't lift anything. Also, the pumps make a tremendous whining noise at any rpm above 1500 when they go bad, at least mine did!! Thanks for watching!!!
@@cassidycarcave2781 Thanks for the reply, no whining noise so that’s a big relief. I do actually have the star diagnostic tool but still cannot get it to do any rodeo or general abc test, keeps throwing an communication error 8.600.0. each time. The car performed rodeo test fine and stayed at ride height steady for weeks. I rebuilt the blocks and replaced the accumulators when a line burst and was waiting for the replacement thinking I would get it nice and “new” that’s when my troubles began. The odd thing is it lifts both front and back of the passenger so it’s hard to narrow which blocks to pinpoint since I believe the rear lifts the rear and front lifts the front right? Any ideas would be really appreciated. It’s a 02 CL55 and it’s been sitting for a year and a half and I’ve been itching to drive it.
Cassidy can you tell me if the 2 pressure lines with the 19mm bolt are both for the abc struts or is it just one of them
Hey I have a 2004 S600 Benz and I switched the ABC shocks to Spring shocks and I have some questions on how to bypass and what to do with the power steering pump and ABC Reservoir do I take off the high pressure hose and put a bolt in the power steering pump to cut whole system out or is best to leave it in and cap off at ABC Lines?
I know you have to let it recirculate rather than just plug the lines. I think it's too much pressure to just plug the lines it will cause problems or leaks. Check on benzworld.org I think there's some guys on there that have just made it recirculate.
at least you werent an asshole and sold the guy a bad car without being honest. Great guy! most people wont even think about it
Thanks Antonio!! Life is too short to screw someone over on a car - especially a car that is supposed to be fun to own right!?!
Did you have to take out the 13 mm nut from the back of the ABC pump. My 2001 s600 seems to have no room for the wrench to turn the nut to remove it. If you did remove the 13 mm nut please share the way how did you do that. Thank you.
Sorry I don't think mine had a 13mm nut on the back. There was a small Torx bolt on the back of mine that actually had worked itself loose and I was able to get a socket on it. Sorry it's very tight in there!!!!
Question for you, I bought a CL600 that needed a coil pack, ran and everything just fine (minus misfire) and now it's blowing white smoke after the new Coil pack was installed and new plugs, old plugs where black and looked factory. My brain is not understanding this one. lol Figured it was just burning off build up? no check engine light, no sounds other than the blown ABC pump. It's a white smoke with a musty burnt smell.
don't want to scare you and hopefully it's not the case but white smoke is generally an indication of coolant in the combustion chamber. Pull your coolant reservoir cap when the car is cool and see if you see anything that looks like oil or sludge in there. It should be super clean....other thing you could try would be to remove the negative cable on the battery overnight. This would reset the ECU for the fuel injection and ignition. Perhaps it's learned some bad things from the coils being bad...
i have one question, lower the front of the sub-frame? or work only from upside?
I did not have to lower the subframe, and I was going by the Mercedes Star workshop manual. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
I have a 2003 SL 500 when I’m going over a speed bump the abc light comes on
Any idea?
Tanks
Hey Fernando thanks for watching! I had the exact same issue with my 2003 sl500. I can just about guarantee you it's the nitrogen accumulators in either the front or back or both that have gone bad. After I replaced mine it resolved that exact issue. They are located in just in front of both wheels on the driver side... So there are two...Not too bad of a job but unfortunately it was before I started making videos. I did make a video replacing them on my 1994 SL600 but it's a completely different setup. Good luck and thanks again!
Hi, 2001 S600 W220 here. I am close to getting the old one out but I am stuck. On mine, I have a metal fluid accumulator (cylinder 4" long by 2" diameter) attached to the abc pump. It is on the side top of the abc pump and a metal tube goes to a bayonnet fitting that is attached to the pump. I have the 2 front E12 nuts off of the accumulator bracket. I have the fitting disconnected from the ABC pump. However, the metal tubing continues down towards the steering rack I think. Can you educate me on how to get that assembly disconnected, please? Do I have to lift the car and uncrews the tube from the top of the steering rack from underneath the car, please? Regards, Bo
What did you do about it
Hello again. Great video as ever!
Question, who rebuilt your valve blocks please? Here in 🇬🇧 Uk seem to have no one prepared to do it.
Thank you.
Hey Mark thanks for watching! I did a video on repairing the valve blocks. It's part of my UA-cam channel as well. It's pretty easy if you get the rebuild kit. It's just a couple of o-rings and spacers that you can buy off ebay. The company that makes the kit has a great video showing how to do the actual rebuild once you get the block off the car. All in all it's not that bad. Cost about 75UD hope this helps!
@@cassidycarcave2781 👋. That’s great. I’ll look up the video. Cheers
Hello. Thanks for video. An answer: after reinstall new/rebuilt pump is necessary fill oil in boot reservoir, and with hand rotation of pump, oil level in reservoir go lower and is necessary add new oil after all system is filled?
Yes correct. Fill the reservoir and hand turn the pump so you get some fluid in the system. Otherwise you will damage your new pump....Thanks for watching!!!
@@cassidycarcave2781 Would it be a good idea to completely replace ABC oil before replacing the pump? I would like to prevent the new pump from coming into contact with the old oil. Car is currently completely on the ground (3 inches above ground) and no longer rises (error ABC, Stop, Auto Low!), So I cannot raise and lower cars with switch (to heat ABC oil). Is it a problem to replace cold oil? I need help. Thank you.
@@tecnologiaaltaqualita2716 hey how did it go with your situation? i am experiencing the same
can't build pressure
@@christophercolumbus8944 My CL after a detailing i was cover it with a cover under a garage. I have a rebuilt pump, belt, oil, filter, other spare parts. Now i not have time to repair CL. I use My C70 Coupe. After summer i think to search a "good" mechanician to make this work.
Was the pump making a whining noise in addition to the low pressure issue?
Yes, there was definitely a high-pitched whining that was going on that went away after I replaced the pump. Thanks for watching!
Should have showed the banjo bolt and location along with how you got it out.
Thanks for the feedback!! I'll get better at these the more I do!!
@cassidycarcave2781 Cassidy can you tell me if the 2 pressure lines with the 19mm bolt are both for the abc struts or is it just one of them
And after you do this in an aging cl the pressure will be at max in the system and in a few weeks or months the next week point in the system will break or leak. Rinse wash repeat.
True words spoken here! Thx for watching!!
So I just bought an SL600 off Cars and Bids and within 4 days of getting her my power steering was all on the floor and had to get it towed to mechanic ... He cant find where the leak is coming from but as gravity shows it drips from 2 hoses that run alongside each other when you take the under belly off, then it pops back over the transmission tunnel and disappears to other side of the car .. When we refill the power steering I can drive it for short period of time, but I just bought an endoscope and am hoping I can trace where exactly this leak is coming from before mechanic disassembles the entire car just to get to these hoses crammed in the bay.
Any tips lol?
Hey Jordan thanks for watching! I love cars and bids there are such cool cars listed there. Of course you know that because you bought one of them! Love the SL600 :-) common fail points are the valve blocks front and rear where the ABC suspension comes together. I'm sure you know the ABC suspension and the power steering systems share the same fluid...also, there are nitrogen spheres for each corner of the car that can fail and leak. And then of course there's the power steering/ABC pump itself which is what failed on my 1994 SL600 and was creating a mess! Check out benzworld.org... awesome forums for specific models and I bet somebody has had an issue similar to yours. Look for another V12 Mercedes that I've added to The Cave that I'll be debuting soon!
@@cassidycarcave2781 absolutely .. Video was very informative and definitely helps to get a better understand of these vehicles ... Thanks for all the help ive found some great information so far reaching out on the forums .. Hopefully get her back up and running soon!
Cassidy I'm doing the same thing and I can't get the fan shroud out. Looks like the metal hard line is in the way on the passenger side. Did you remove that hard line as well? My radiator is drained and big pipe removed from the driver's side.
As I recall it did not have to come off. I was able to angle the shroud out after I removed the hard hoses on the driver's side. It was tight though!! ABC system really tries my patience on these otherwise incredible cars!! Good luck with your project and thanks for watching!!!
@@cassidycarcave2781 Thanks and thanks for replying quickly! FYI my 05 did not have a smaller pipe coming down from the big coolant angle pipe that feeds to the top of the engine via the aluminum pipe to the thermostat.
FWIW I took the transmission line off to slide the fan out from underneath the car, and there is a rear bolt on the back of the pump that is holding it to the block as well. I haven't loosened the rear bolt yet despite trying 3 different box wrenches (straight, angled, offset). Having only 30 minutes a day to work on this keeps me sane.
@@initialcorn always fun to work on a V12 wedged into a coupe engine bay:-)
Do you need to somehow pre-fill the pump with oil to stop it on first start-up running dry? Just curious whats the best way to get fluid initially into it :) Cheers.
Use a turkey baster and inject some oil in the pump then hand turn the pulley then inject some more! Thanks for watching and commenting!!
@@cassidycarcave2781 Great thats a simple way to fix that cheers.
@@thatmatty231guy thanks Matty!!
@cassidycarcave2781 Cassidy can you tell me if the 2 pressure lines with the 19mm bolt are both for the abc struts or is it just one of them
@@beatstreetchronics On the pump, one is for the steering system, and one feeds the valve block that runs the full ABC suspension system.
Do you have a good source for the rebuilt pumps? Nice video, very helpful.
I bought mine on eBay for a seller named Carsteering. It was $265. I was very happy with it! Hope this helps good luck thanks for watching!
@@cassidycarcave2781 does it still work? I need a new one
@@luliuscasar8467 sure does! Got mine off eBay....thx!!!!
Just curious what does the ABC stand for?
Pretty sure it's Active Body Control... thanks for watching!!
it stands for "your car is f---ekd
Dose the pump leak
My pump was not leaking...it just wasn't pumping strong enough to perform its function...thx!!!
Man I got anxiety watching this vid...not because I doubted you but because I just bought a 600 from out of state and I'm currently panting excessively hoping I don't have to go through this lol
I hear ya Josh!! These cars are so sweet but the ABC system can end the happiness quick. Once sorted they are pretty reliable though. Nice job on the 600 - I love the Mercedes V12's - even though mine has me in Mercedes Hell right now!!! They are worth it:-)
i just fixed my s600 abc pump a 2 months ago
@@uzzle21 nice job! I may have to do the pump on my SL600 now...so many leaks in my car😞
I bought a 02 CL600 from auction and have to do an ABC conversion since the past owners took the ABC suspension out and is on Strutmasters now, but they kept the ABC pump that is now burnt up. So will be putting in a S55 AMG pump in instead of an ABC one. ABC pump $400 S55 AMG pump $75.
@@Level_Up_Nation check on ebay .
Where did you source your pump from?
www.ebay.com/itm/For-Mercedes-CL600-CL65-S600-S65-Power-Steering-ABC-Tandem-Pump-CSW/153942033622?pageci=3a8465a0-7cb4-43fa-9b47-4609508445f2&epid=23029932949
Pump came very fast and was a direct replacement. A lot cheaper than a new one.
@@cassidycarcave2781 so how many bolts BEFORE you tilt it to the left and loosen the belt
and then i guess you would unbolt the powersteering pulley ?
what size are those plugs please. Nice video
Hey Weedoh thanks for watching! Not sure what size the bolts I used to plug the line...is that what your asking? Probably something around 1/2 diameter...doesn't need to be tight, just enough to fill in the hoses to prevent leaking...Thanks for commenting!
@@cassidycarcave2781 ok thanks I have 06 S65 i'm going to try to tackle
There’s a 3rd bolt on the back kicked my butt for like 30 mins
Hi
Dear friend, I want you to make a video detailing how to disassemble and install
S600
2005 model
MERCEDES-BENZ S-CLASS W220 POWER STEERING HOSE A2203205372 OEM
As soon as possible
Thank you
Dang I have the same problem
$1400 at the dealership.
Can't believe it's not more!! ABC is definitely the love/hate part of these cars...good luck with yours!!
I have a leak that's why
@@cassidycarcave2781 Hate. I didn't even like it when it worked right. Very unnatural feeling in the way the car moves on the road. So far the ABC, PSE pump, and HVAC fan/controller have proven to be made from inferior components or poor design on my S600.
@@scootypuffjr. Yea I get it the troubles are sometimes not worth it in these complicated systems. Most people that delete and go coil overs say the ride is just as good. Luxury cars focus too much now on gadgets and tech to market cars instead of just building the best product. My 1990 Bentley has no tech, cost less than $10k and rides and drives better than anything else I own. Point is it FEELS different than other cars and it should!! Luxury brands should stand apart in quality and appearance rather than looking like Camrys with crappy reliability. Rant over...thanks for watching and commenting!!!
@@cassidycarcave2781 I got hooked on MB when I bought an old W126 300SDL. I love that car. Only thing i wanted was more power. So, i went to the other extreme and did the S600 TT. I hate that car and will likely never buy another MB. New or used.
Hi
MERCEDES-BENZ S-CLASS W220 Power Steering Hose A2203205372 NEW GENUINE
Dear friend, I want you to make a video detailing how to disassemble and install
S600
2005 model
MERCEDES-BENZ S-CLASS W220 POWER STEERING HOSE A2203205372 OEM
As soon as possible
Thank you
I wish I could help! I'll check and see if my car has the same hose - there were some changes made after 2003. If I have that hose and when mine goes bad I'll certainly cover it in a video...Thanks for watching!
@@cassidycarcave2781 Dear Friend
This evil hose
There are from 2002 to 2006
Carries a spare parts number
A2203205372
In the video you mentioned that it is not easy to disassemble and install
This is the hose
The problem you have is that you shorten the time in recording the video
We do not want to shorten the video. We want to see everything done, disassemble and reconfigure so that we can learn from you how to disassemble and maintain
Even if it lasts for several hours, there is no problem
Important education and interest
@@cassidycarcave2781 Dear Friend
Please write your WhatsApp number
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Of the utmost importance
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@@cassidycarcave2781 This evil hose
There are from 2002 to 2006
Carries a spare parts number
A2203205372
In the video you mentioned that it is not easy to disassemble and install
This is the hose
The problem you have is that you shorten the time in recording the video
We do not want to shorten the video. We want to see everything done, disassemble and reconfigure so that we can learn from you how to disassemble and maintain
Even if it lasts for several hours, there is no problem
Important education and interest
@@cassidycarcave2781 Hi
MERCEDES-BENZ S-CLASS W220 Power Steering Hose A2203205372 NEW GENUINE
Dear friend, I want you to make a video detailing how to disassemble and install
S600
2005 model
MERCEDES-BENZ S-CLASS W220 POWER STEERING HOSE A2203205372 OEM
As soon as possible
Thank you
thanks for NOT showing how to do any of the parts lol