One thing that I have learned about painting is anytime painting over a gloss coat,you should sand it lightly with 800 grit sand paint. People who painted like a room wall with gloss paint,I had to either sand or get a bottle of liquid sand and coat the wall before paint. Gloss is so smooth it is like paint glass,it will peel. For this reason I use matt paints unless doing cars but most time most car builders will sand lightly before another coat of paint or gloss coat...😊😊😊
Thank you, Professor Kidwell. Like applying a tailgate seal to a Toyota Tacoma after setting it softly in position before working it down with hard finger pressure to wet out the 3M adhesive tape, and following instructions to allow it to cure 24 hours undisturbed, I do the same with other paints and sealers. Take a break, have a bratwurst, cheese from Colby, Wisconsin, and/or your favorite beverage between coats. Coats? Important in the coming season... I appreciate Principal Skinner's 3Ddecal work in front of the camera, and his work behind it. Kudos to the producers for keeping a serious mien throughout, too.
It’s great you took the time to do this tests- and it’s appreciated. But problem with using something that isn’t meant for painting though, is that A. The manufacturer can change or tweak the formula at any time without putting it on the label. It’s even possible that the formula you’re working with is different from what some of your viewers are using… it’s even more likely nowadays companies are desperately trying to cut costs…So I’d be pretty careful to do extensive testing on each new bottle purchased…or purchase several at the same time to guarantee any formula issues so that no amazing projects are damaged beyond repair. B. The longevity is very much in question- yes it may be totally fine and not yellow over time…I know the older floor polishes passed this test, but that doesn’t mean ALL floor polishes will last. And there’s a high probability that yellowing or damage will occur long term. There was a similar problem when everyone started trying to use hairspray to replace spray fixative/varnish (thanks youtube)- some had some pretty disastrous results..and the cost savings wasn’t really there. But it depends totally on the painter- it’s very possible that for the majority, maybe neither of those things are a big deal and the cost savings is more important. Personally I like the new createx high gloss or the Vallejo premium gloss (although it’s finicky on some paints and needs to be tested) for some of these purposes 🤷🏻♀️
We don't endorse Quick Shine, but we have found it to be a suitable substitute for what modelers used to use Pledge Floor Gloss (Future) for. It's also behaves very similarly to AK Gauzy Agent. YMMV.
Personally, I go for hobby products, but we are open to new things. When PFG was discontinued, our email was thick with questions about a replacement. We tested a number of products for a FineScale Modeler Weekly, found Quick Shine did an adequate job, and have continued to answer questions about it, especially after the last video about QS. But it's time for us to move one to other topics. -TK
Keep these constructional videos coming. I have a half a bottle of Future from 2008, and a new full bottle, so I think I will be okay for a while. However, I think I will order a bottle of A Stand Metallic lacquer. Wish you would do a video like this on silver paints.
Your spoon test was interesting. Personally I feel a better test would have been to use the same color on all of the spoons. I'd suggest black since a: black shows gloss a lot better than, say, white and b: basically everyone makes black. And I would have tested flat paint separately. This way you have a baseline that compares all of the types of paint under the same conditions. And the only things different would be they types of paint, not adding in the way different colors show light.
Hi from Darryl in Australia...Many thanks for you very informative & useful video.... Have you by any chance, checked how decals adhere to any of the surfaces after you had applied Quick Shine?
Yeah but, you completely missed the failings that Future/Pledge/Quickshine actually has. - Inconsistent spray performance. - No UV protection whatsoever. - Inferior resistance to chemical damage from various weathering products and decal solutions versus hobby oriented varnishes. Like the model paint manufacturers haven’t had a chance to come up with superior glosses since someone got the bright idea to pour a floor gloss on his model what…30 years ago? Sheesh… They’re selling bottles of Pledge Revive It for $90 on eBay to modelers who don’t think they can live without the stuff. One model paint manufacturer actually comes out and says don’t use it.
Thanks for the tests. It confirms my own positive experience with Quick Shine. Don't you have a food dehydrator to speed up the paint curing? The hair dryer is a really bad idea...
@@FineScaleModelermagazine I was thinking more about the new AMMO Cobra Motor Paints & Products. There was a seminar about them at the Madison Nationals.
As a follow up to a fantastically, thought out test. If you were to lightly sand those two gloss samples with 5000-8000 grit paper and spray again, would the tape pull that. Someone had said earlier here in the comments, I’m expanding on their train of thought.
There's a lot of experimentation that can be done, but we are moving on from Quick Shine for now. If you happen to use it and have tips, please share them with us!
Tim, I like the quick shine test. I also have a question pertaining to the video not necessarily on Scale Model Basics, but who does your music scores. Are you and Aaron musician's too?
It doesn’t look all that glossy. Main reason for using is to get super gloss coat on a canopy or other clear. Doesn’t look like it’s worth the trouble.
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Very informative and well presented.
One thing that I have learned about painting is anytime painting over a gloss coat,you should sand it lightly with 800 grit sand paint. People who painted like a room wall with gloss paint,I had to either sand or get a bottle of liquid sand and coat the wall before paint. Gloss is so smooth it is like paint glass,it will peel. For this reason I use matt paints unless doing cars but most time most car builders will sand lightly before another coat of paint or gloss coat...😊😊😊
Auto painters call that providing a tooth for other coats.
This was a great and informative video. One of your best yet. Great job!!
Thank you for taking the time to do the test. Great material.
We're glad you liked the video!
Thanks Tim. I always love testing and experimenting videos.
We thought we'd plunge back into the Quick Shine pool once more. We're done for a while. Other things to work on!
Thank you, Professor Kidwell. Like applying a tailgate seal to a Toyota Tacoma after setting it softly in position before working it down with hard finger pressure to wet out the 3M adhesive tape, and following instructions to allow it to cure 24 hours undisturbed, I do the same with other paints and sealers. Take a break, have a bratwurst, cheese from Colby, Wisconsin, and/or your favorite beverage between coats. Coats? Important in the coming season... I appreciate Principal Skinner's 3Ddecal work in front of the camera, and his work behind it. Kudos to the producers for keeping a serious mien throughout, too.
Thanks, Charles!
Hands up anyone who was actually able to see what he tried to show of in the first demo. Milky liquid on a grayish plastic…
It’s great you took the time to do this tests- and it’s appreciated. But problem with using something that isn’t meant for painting though, is that A. The manufacturer can change or tweak the formula at any time without putting it on the label. It’s even possible that the formula you’re working with is different from what some of your viewers are using… it’s even more likely nowadays companies are desperately trying to cut costs…So I’d be pretty careful to do extensive testing on each new bottle purchased…or purchase several at the same time to guarantee any formula issues so that no amazing projects are damaged beyond repair.
B. The longevity is very much in question- yes it may be totally fine and not yellow over time…I know the older floor polishes passed this test, but that doesn’t mean ALL floor polishes will last. And there’s a high probability that yellowing or damage will occur long term. There was a similar problem when everyone started trying to use hairspray to replace spray fixative/varnish (thanks youtube)- some had some pretty disastrous results..and the cost savings wasn’t really there.
But it depends totally on the painter- it’s very possible that for the majority, maybe neither of those things are a big deal and the cost savings is more important. Personally I like the new createx high gloss or the Vallejo premium gloss (although it’s finicky on some paints and needs to be tested) for some of these purposes 🤷🏻♀️
We don't endorse Quick Shine, but we have found it to be a suitable substitute for what modelers used to use Pledge Floor Gloss (Future) for. It's also behaves very similarly to AK Gauzy Agent. YMMV.
Worthy job for sure, I will probably still use the branded gloss finishes, but this does give me options. Thank you.
Personally, I go for hobby products, but we are open to new things. When PFG was discontinued, our email was thick with questions about a replacement. We tested a number of products for a FineScale Modeler Weekly, found Quick Shine did an adequate job, and have continued to answer questions about it, especially after the last video about QS. But it's time for us to move one to other topics. -TK
Keep these constructional videos coming. I have a half a bottle of Future from 2008, and a new full bottle, so I think I will be okay for a while. However, I think I will order a bottle of A Stand Metallic lacquer.
Wish you would do a video like this on silver paints.
Your spoon test was interesting. Personally I feel a better test would have been to use the same color on all of the spoons. I'd suggest black since a: black shows gloss a lot better than, say, white and b: basically everyone makes black. And I would have tested flat paint separately. This way you have a baseline that compares all of the types of paint under the same conditions. And the only things different would be they types of paint, not adding in the way different colors show light.
Have at it! We'd love to see your results.
Hi from Darryl in Australia...Many thanks for you very informative & useful video.... Have you by any chance, checked how decals adhere to any of the surfaces after you had applied Quick Shine?
Yeah but, you completely missed the failings that Future/Pledge/Quickshine actually has.
- Inconsistent spray performance.
- No UV protection whatsoever.
- Inferior resistance to chemical damage from various weathering products and decal solutions versus hobby oriented varnishes.
Like the model paint manufacturers haven’t had a chance to come up with superior glosses since someone got the bright idea to pour a floor gloss on his model what…30 years ago? Sheesh…
They’re selling bottles of Pledge Revive It for $90 on eBay to modelers who don’t think they can live without the stuff.
One model paint manufacturer actually comes out and says don’t use it.
Thanks for the tests. It confirms my own positive experience with Quick Shine. Don't you have a food dehydrator to speed up the paint curing? The hair dryer is a really bad idea...
Great info. Tangent question. Have you done, or can you do a piece on those metal paints from AMMO?
The A-Stand lacquers? We could. We'll see what we can cook up.
@@FineScaleModelermagazine I was thinking more about the new AMMO Cobra Motor Paints & Products. There was a seminar about them at the Madison Nationals.
Is this the Dry Tooth and Wet Coat Method, Tim?
As a follow up to a fantastically, thought out test.
If you were to lightly sand those two gloss samples with 5000-8000 grit paper and spray again, would the tape pull that.
Someone had said earlier here in the comments, I’m expanding on their train of thought.
There's a lot of experimentation that can be done, but we are moving on from Quick Shine for now. If you happen to use it and have tips, please share them with us!
a cura é o segredo :)
Tim, I like the quick shine test. I also have a question pertaining to the video not necessarily on Scale Model Basics, but who does your music scores. Are you and Aaron musician's too?
While I have a musical family and play personally play a couple of instruments, we have a license with Getty Images to use its music library. -TK
It doesn’t look all that glossy. Main reason for using is to get super gloss coat on a canopy or other clear. Doesn’t look like it’s worth the trouble.
No lighting in the paintbooth?
It's a new installation. The lights are on the way.
Is Quick Shine the new Future? What did I miss?
Ok so the quick shine would not work very well with sealing decals. Like let’s say over a nascar body that’s already shiny
We don't think so. In our opinion, you'd be better off with a traditional clear coat.