Really appreciate you sharing this story. As an eBay buyer, I’m gonna be even more careful now. It’s bad out there right now, you can feel it in the air!
If I buy from EBay I only purchase a watch from a listing where it goes through the EBay authentication service. That way you have an independent party inspecting the watch and making sure it’s legit and then they ship you the watch. The even give you an NFT enabled certificate of authentication. It’s a great service.
It's not an NFT, it's an NFC card that you get. I also agree with Watch-Tang Clan. Their authenticators (at least in the UK) have let slip some fakes through the process. If you Google it you'll see what I mean
I receieved a rolex that ticks SUPER LOUD THE WATCH WAS 20 GRAMS UNDER WEIGHT & the rolex crowns were just HORRIBLE. Came with the ebay authentication card and everything. That blue check means nothing 3,500 for a fake watch. Going through the return process now.😊
I think that authentication program is a scam. When you receive your watch from them, it comes covered in plastic and stickers on it. If you remove the stickers to inspect the watch case more closely, you can no longer return the watch. Plus, I don't like the idea of a random person handling my expensive watches. I know that if they end up scratching my watch, they will deny they did it.
The new eBay scam is also they are going after sellers as well, scoping out all the high dollar completed auctions. I recently sold a camera and sure enough, I got what looked like a legit email from somebody telling me how excited they were to win the camera, but they were out of town visiting family for a few weeks, and provided me with a different address asking me to send it to their families house that they were visiting at. I can’t imagine people that actually do this, and then hear from their real buyer that paid for the item wanting to know why they never received it.
Sounds like the real buyer is in on the scam which is how the other person knew when to email you. They certainly would pretend to be mad when seeking their refund but they would be laughing while they split the money.
The very principle of sending a lot of money to an unknown third party abroad and trusting them to send you the goods as advertised is a recipe for unpleasant experiences. As much as you can, buy from brick and mortar dealers who have been in the business for a while and made a good name for themselves.
Interesting. I've purchased quite a few watches on eBay and never had any trouble, but have had several instances where I've put watches up for bidding and never received payment from the winner. Unlike buyers who can be wary of sellers with poor eBay ratings, as a seller you have no control over who bids on your items.
I've bought many watches on eBay without a problem until the last one. Purchased a new Casioak from what appeared to be a reputable gray market seller. Received a counterfeit watch (my girlfriend said "what is the world coming to when they fake Casios?"). Filed a claim with eBay and received a full refund within one hour of filing the claim. Good service from eBay on that one.
I have an Omega Speedmaster Mark II. I bought it in 1974 new. Over the years I kept it properly maintained. I have been getting it maintained by the Omega service place where I live. I keep it in excellent condition. I bought it back then to use when flying air charters. It makes for an excellent aviation type watch. The version I have is with the sapphire glass. I would have no interest to sell this watch. I am attached to it since I have it since I was in my early 20s. I have some other Omega watches. I am presently wearing one from their Planet Ocean series. I buy them new from an authorized Omega dealer. I know I pay top dollar for them, but I know I am getting a proper authentic watch with a warranty. They are very good watches.
Same here i rather buy directly from the store, unless its from someone i know a friend or a friend of a friend. But i like it new, i get a different bond to the watch when i buy it new. Also i like going into the store looking at watches talk to the professional sellers and learn a thing or two, when you say you will buy they serve you a drink, its the whole experience you get from buying from these quality brands in store, a luxury feel.
I splurged on an Omega on ebay. Was really excited about it when it arrived but after wearing it for a few days I noticed something was off. Looking closer I noticed water damage. I’m still waiting for my refund from ebay which I expect any day now, but super disappointing process. Won’t be buying off ebay again.
So you are getting a full refund after realizing a watch had water damage days after receiving it? But you won't buy on eBay again? You would NOT be getting a refund on any other platform in your scenario. eBay is protecting you, the buyer. Why are you seeing it as a negative?
I haven’t had a problem with EBay’s authentication guarantee service in fact I recommend you only buy it through that service. However with vintage pieces that could be a concern.
I would say Ebay does protect the buyer quite well. as soon as you inform them they usually get your money back asap. Its actually a lot easier to get scammed when selling something.
Similar story, I purchased two G-Shocks on blow out sale from that I thought was Dick's Sporting Goods online advertizment. Charged my card, got shipping info. 2 weeks later delivered to another state. I checked my receipt and realized it was scam website a few letters off from the real Dicks. Finally the link to the scam website stopped working immediately after delivery. My CC company covered it.
I bought a Speedy Reduced from Japan on Ebay. It came with a loose center seconds hand that fell off within a day of getting the watch. I opened a claim and ebay said they had to give me my money back without me returning the watch to japan (thus forfeiting the forex and duty costs). I clicked a button saying I wasn't returning the watch and then Ebay said they were contractually bound to side with the seller since I clicked that button. I had a full service done locally and the watch is very nice, but that cost me an additional 300usd equivalent. Ebay isn't a great place to buy watches but I still did ok on my 3510.50 -- I'd be very reluctant to try again on a more commonly faked and more expensive piece. That said my watch runs well, in very good condition with some sharp edges left on the case given its over 20yrs old. A pre-moon from Peru would be out of the question unless I had very good reasons to believe the seller and the product are top shelf.
I had a similar situation happen to me this year from a UK based seller in the east end. They were selling ' genuine 😂 ' vintage Omega gold watch. I purchased it, took the back off. Everything looked old and genuine. Movement was stamped, rear of case was also numbered. I then sent the watch to be serviced. OMG it was totally fake. I got 100% of my money back from eBay. Apparently the seller had a Mark on them? The watch was built in India. Looked totally authentic. Easy to be scammed. I'd never buy a watch from other than a proper watch supplier 👍
eBay does protect people, BUT the aggravation of opening a claim and dealing with it all is a pain and all too frequent. I’ve been going though Chrono24 for my purchases and haven’t had an issue yet.
I'm trying to buy a used SPEEDMASTER off ebay but the prices seem to be way lower than what I would have thought ie I was thinking 3+k easily but the majority of them are under 2k should this be a red flag?and I'm concerned about receiving a replica and not the real deal how do you know its the real watch and does ebay get you're $back if it's a fake ?any info would be great to anyone who reads this thnxs!
Bought a pair of ray ban wayfarers on eBay. When I got them I put them on and they felt off. Went back through the pictures I used from the sale to judge if they where fake and of course the ones he sent me the writing on the inside of the arm was different and this was out of the states. Opened a claim that day and had my money back the next day. I couldn’t believe it was that fast. Still have the fakes and my two year old loves to play with them.
That’s a much faster process! I thought I could solve it faster if I had it in hand. eBay tried to give the seller time to reship them I think which is why it took so long
@@HarrisonElmore You are correct. According to eBay "...the seller must be located in the US, UK, Canada, Japan, Italy, Germany, or South Korea." Also recommend reading is Joe G's Pro Comment above regarding which countries to avoid when purchasing expensive time pieces.
So you don't actually know if they were indeed trying to scam you. It doesn't make sense as a scam since the tracking would show it's a different address than the one it was ordered to the paper trail would work against the would be scammer. It being in the same area is meaningless to proving if it was or wasn't delivered to a specific address.
I do e-commerce and have been doing it for almost a decade. 100% of the orders from Peru are scams. I didn't know any better in the beginning and got chargebacks. Now I just block all orders from that country.
So I’m confused. They shipped it to your address but a different name or different name and address altogether? If it was the former, why not just prove your address? Not many people call a post office looking for a watch
I was going to say the same thing. Maybe it doesn't work internationally. I'm guessing it is due to import taxes Ebay has to pay to accept the watches in the first place.
The new scam is instead of sending you the watch, they send an envelope with nothing in it and attach the tracking number to it so that it shows delivered. Happened to me.
Thanks for sharing. Good to know about these scams and to be aware. To be safe, it’s always best to buy from your own country and take full advantage of eBays authenticity guarantee. I appreciate the temptation to buy the perfect Watch is a strong one, but it better avoid the risk. Be patient and I’m sure “the” watch will pop up in your country at some point… keep up the great work with the videos. 👍🏼🙏🏻
THIS IS VERY HELPFUL IM TRYING TO AQUIRE A 2008 OMEGA SPEEDMASTER I HAD ONE BUT IT WAS RECENTLY STOLEN QUITE LITERALLY OFF MY WRIST IN JAMAICA. LONG STORY BUT ANYWAY ,I WAS WONDERING HOW DO I KNOW IF IM ACTUALLY GETTING THE REAL DEAL NOT A CLONE?AND WHAT IF I DO GET A FAJE WILL EBAY GET MY $ BACK FOR ME .ALSO WAS WONDERING WHAT A USED 2008 SPEEDMASTER SHOULD GO FOR I WAS THINKING AROUND 3+K USD.ALOT OF THEM ARE JUST UNDER 2K ON EBAY IS THAT A RED FLAG ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED .BTW GREAT CHANNEL JUST SUBSCRIBED. BOSTONUSA ..
buying from amateur sellers with low numbers of items sold on Ebay is a very bad idea. Sure you might get a refund, but the pain you have to go through is not worth it.
The Peruvian Speedmaster scammers have been on eBay for years, if something looks too good to be true, then it is! Most buyers have caught on and that's why their auctions end so cheap. They constantly pop up with the same watches under different usernames.
Dont buy anything from South America, I got burned for a Omega from a guy in Peru, he had three other Omegas I emailed him a bunch of times and he seemed lagit . Turned out he was just a crook. I got some of my money back from Ebay. This guy might be the same guy.
I almost paid to that Peruvian guy also, He used to photoshopped that ed white and list for a sell. apparently and fortunately, that watch is so so close similar to the one that the one who is an editor at Fretello owned. I ask the editor guy, thanks to him, he said that he still have that watch. So I decided to cancelled my offer. Hope you get the money back.
Really appreciate you sharing this story. As an eBay buyer, I’m gonna be even more careful now. It’s bad out there right now, you can feel it in the air!
been in the air for decades and decades and decades. lol
How did you buy an eBay watch yet avoid mandatory authentication?
Mandatory? There are plenty of ebay listings for vintage watches without the authenticity guaranteed badge.
Anything over $2000 is automatic
If I buy from EBay I only purchase a watch from a listing where it goes through the EBay authentication service. That way you have an independent party inspecting the watch and making sure it’s legit and then they ship you the watch. The even give you an NFT enabled certificate of authentication. It’s a great service.
It's not an NFT, it's an NFC card that you get. I also agree with Watch-Tang Clan. Their authenticators (at least in the UK) have let slip some fakes through the process. If you Google it you'll see what I mean
Also heard eBay authentication is not great for watches.
Their authentication is very spotty
I receieved a rolex that ticks SUPER LOUD THE WATCH WAS 20 GRAMS UNDER WEIGHT & the rolex crowns were just HORRIBLE. Came with the ebay authentication card and everything. That blue check means nothing 3,500 for a fake watch. Going through the return process now.😊
I think that authentication program is a scam. When you receive your watch from them, it comes covered in plastic and stickers on it. If you remove the stickers to inspect the watch case more closely, you can no longer return the watch. Plus, I don't like the idea of a random person handling my expensive watches. I know that if they end up scratching my watch, they will deny they did it.
The new eBay scam is also they are going after sellers as well, scoping out all the high dollar completed auctions. I recently sold a camera and sure enough, I got what looked like a legit email from somebody telling me how excited they were to win the camera, but they were out of town visiting family for a few weeks, and provided me with a different address asking me to send it to their families house that they were visiting at. I can’t imagine people that actually do this, and then hear from their real buyer that paid for the item wanting to know why they never received it.
Sounds like the real buyer is in on the scam which is how the other person knew when to email you. They certainly would pretend to be mad when seeking their refund but they would be laughing while they split the money.
The very principle of sending a lot of money to an unknown third party abroad and trusting them to send you the goods as advertised is a recipe for unpleasant experiences.
As much as you can, buy from brick and mortar dealers who have been in the business for a while and made a good name for themselves.
Interesting. I've purchased quite a few watches on eBay and never had any trouble, but have had several instances where I've put watches up for bidding and never received payment from the winner. Unlike buyers who can be wary of sellers with poor eBay ratings, as a seller you have no control over who bids on your items.
I've bought many watches on eBay without a problem until the last one. Purchased a new Casioak from what appeared to be a reputable gray market seller. Received a counterfeit watch (my girlfriend said "what is the world coming to when they fake Casios?"). Filed a claim with eBay and received a full refund within one hour of filing the claim. Good service from eBay on that one.
I’ve seen replicas of Orient, which is pretty much a similarly prices watch as a Casio. Sad, people are desperate
There are lot of custom ones where they pull that off. I see the ads.
ROFL of all the watches to get a fake it's the cheap Casio.
I have an Omega Speedmaster Mark II. I bought it in 1974 new. Over the years I kept it properly maintained. I have been getting it maintained by the Omega service place where I live. I keep it in excellent condition. I bought it back then to use when flying air charters. It makes for an excellent aviation type watch. The version I have is with the sapphire glass. I would have no interest to sell this watch. I am attached to it since I have it since I was in my early 20s. I have some other Omega watches. I am presently wearing one from their Planet Ocean series. I buy them new from an authorized Omega dealer. I know I pay top dollar for them, but I know I am getting a proper authentic watch with a warranty. They are very good watches.
Same here i rather buy directly from the store, unless its from someone i know a friend or a friend of a friend. But i like it new, i get a different bond to the watch when i buy it new. Also i like going into the store looking at watches talk to the professional sellers and learn a thing or two, when you say you will buy they serve you a drink, its the whole experience you get from buying from these quality brands in store, a luxury feel.
I splurged on an Omega on ebay. Was really excited about it when it arrived but after wearing it for a few days I noticed something was off. Looking closer I noticed water damage. I’m still waiting for my refund from ebay which I expect any day now, but super disappointing process. Won’t be buying off ebay again.
Ebay is a scam pool nowadays, it’s just too risky to buy there
So you are getting a full refund after realizing a watch had water damage days after receiving it? But you won't buy on eBay again? You would NOT be getting a refund on any other platform in your scenario. eBay is protecting you, the buyer. Why are you seeing it as a negative?
I haven’t had a problem with EBay’s authentication guarantee service in fact I recommend you only buy it through that service. However with vintage pieces that could be a concern.
I would say Ebay does protect the buyer quite well. as soon as you inform them they usually get your money back asap. Its actually a lot easier to get scammed when selling something.
Just listened to the end... You pretty much say this anyway! lol
I would agree. Thankfully that hasn't happened to me yet!
That’s for sure, I’m afraid to see big ticket items
Similar story, I purchased two G-Shocks on blow out sale from that I thought was Dick's Sporting Goods online advertizment. Charged my card, got shipping info. 2 weeks later delivered to another state. I checked my receipt and realized it was scam website a few letters off from the real Dicks. Finally the link to the scam website stopped working immediately after delivery. My CC company covered it.
Dang! Sorry to hear that. Glad you got covered!
I bought a Speedy Reduced from Japan on Ebay. It came with a loose center seconds hand that fell off within a day of getting the watch. I opened a claim and ebay said they had to give me my money back without me returning the watch to japan (thus forfeiting the forex and duty costs). I clicked a button saying I wasn't returning the watch and then Ebay said they were contractually bound to side with the seller since I clicked that button. I had a full service done locally and the watch is very nice, but that cost me an additional 300usd equivalent. Ebay isn't a great place to buy watches but I still did ok on my 3510.50 -- I'd be very reluctant to try again on a more commonly faked and more expensive piece. That said my watch runs well, in very good condition with some sharp edges left on the case given its over 20yrs old. A pre-moon from Peru would be out of the question unless I had very good reasons to believe the seller and the product are top shelf.
I had a similar situation happen to me this year from a UK based seller in the east end. They were selling ' genuine 😂 ' vintage Omega gold watch. I purchased it, took the back off. Everything looked old and genuine. Movement was stamped, rear of case was also numbered. I then sent the watch to be serviced. OMG it was totally fake. I got 100% of my money back from eBay. Apparently the seller had a Mark on them? The watch was built in India. Looked totally authentic. Easy to be scammed. I'd never buy a watch from other than a proper watch supplier 👍
eBay does protect people, BUT the aggravation of opening a claim and dealing with it all is a pain and all too frequent. I’ve been going though Chrono24 for my purchases and haven’t had an issue yet.
They also got new scams.. Watch Paul thorpe..
Chrono 24 is far less safe. Plenty of scams over there
I'm trying to buy a used SPEEDMASTER off ebay but the prices seem to be way lower than what I would have thought ie I was thinking 3+k easily but the majority of them are under 2k should this be a red flag?and I'm concerned about receiving a replica and not the real deal how do you know its the real watch and does ebay get you're $back if it's a fake ?any info would be great to anyone who reads this thnxs!
@@leevancleef451 just buy from physical stores or meet ups
@@leevancleef451 on Chrono24?
Please, I want to know if it’s safe to buy a Casio G-Shock watch on EBay ?
Great channel. You're crushin' it
Appreciate it!
Bought a pair of ray ban wayfarers on eBay. When I got them I put them on and they felt off. Went back through the pictures I used from the sale to judge if they where fake and of course the ones he sent me the writing on the inside of the arm was different and this was out of the states. Opened a claim that day and had my money back the next day. I couldn’t believe it was that fast. Still have the fakes and my two year old loves to play with them.
That’s a much faster process! I thought I could solve it faster if I had it in hand. eBay tried to give the seller time to reship them I think which is why it took so long
I thought that watches at this price had to to go eBay first for authentication. Am I wrong?
Depends on where it comes from I think
@@HarrisonElmore You are correct. According to eBay "...the seller must be located in the US, UK, Canada, Japan, Italy, Germany, or South Korea." Also recommend reading is Joe G's Pro Comment above regarding which countries to avoid when purchasing expensive time pieces.
Buying a high cost item from Peru? Big Red Flag in my book and asking for trouble. Ebay is a great place to buy, but you have to be sensible about it.
So you don't actually know if they were indeed trying to scam you. It doesn't make sense as a scam since the tracking would show it's a different address than the one it was ordered to the paper trail would work against the would be scammer. It being in the same area is meaningless to proving if it was or wasn't delivered to a specific address.
How did you call a USPS? I haven't seen one with a public number in years
I do e-commerce and have been doing it for almost a decade. 100% of the orders from Peru are scams. I didn't know any better in the beginning and got chargebacks. Now I just block all orders from that country.
Well that price has a $19,000 gap, so of course it was within the chart pricing
People pay a huge premium for good examples on speedys it seems given they’re progressively harder to find
I was watching while working and unsure if I missed it. Was it a part of the eBay guarantee program?
Oddly, my box had that “The time has come…” on the inside. Coincidence?
Appreciate the advice, Sir. Great video once again!
So I’m confused. They shipped it to your address but a different name or different name and address altogether? If it was the former, why not just prove your address? Not many people call a post office looking for a watch
What happened to eBay’s authenticity check
I was going to say the same thing. Maybe it doesn't work internationally. I'm guessing it is due to import taxes Ebay has to pay to accept the watches in the first place.
The eBay seller must located in a country designated by eBay.
The new scam is instead of sending you the watch, they send an envelope with nothing in it and attach the tracking number to it so that it shows delivered. Happened to me.
You got your money back. You didn't get burned.
Thanks for sharing. Good to know about these scams and to be aware. To be safe, it’s always best to buy from your own country and take full advantage of eBays authenticity guarantee. I appreciate the temptation to buy the perfect Watch is a strong one, but it better avoid the risk. Be patient and I’m sure “the” watch will pop up in your country at some point… keep up the great work with the videos. 👍🏼🙏🏻
Sounds more like a mistake and not a scam. But then again how can the seller make this mistake when shipping label is automatically provided to them.
THIS IS VERY HELPFUL IM TRYING TO AQUIRE A 2008 OMEGA SPEEDMASTER I HAD ONE BUT IT WAS RECENTLY STOLEN QUITE LITERALLY OFF MY WRIST IN JAMAICA. LONG STORY BUT ANYWAY ,I WAS WONDERING HOW DO I KNOW IF IM ACTUALLY GETTING THE REAL DEAL NOT A CLONE?AND WHAT IF I DO GET A FAJE WILL EBAY GET MY $ BACK FOR ME .ALSO WAS WONDERING WHAT A USED 2008 SPEEDMASTER SHOULD GO FOR I WAS THINKING AROUND 3+K USD.ALOT OF THEM ARE JUST UNDER 2K ON EBAY IS THAT A RED FLAG ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED .BTW GREAT CHANNEL JUST SUBSCRIBED. BOSTONUSA ..
I'm confused, did you get their watch or not
I'm glad you got your money back. I avoid eBay myself. I don't need potential headaches.
Thank you for sharing this!
Brilliant video. Great advice 👍 well done.
The best scammers are on the internet. Hope you got your cash back.
I did thank you!
buying from amateur sellers with low numbers of items sold on Ebay is a very bad idea. Sure you might get a refund, but the pain you have to go through is not worth it.
Are you able to say the name of the seller?
First video I saw of yours and I liked it. I'll subscribe.
Nice! Welcome aboard
I think buying luxury wrist watches on eBay is only going to end in tears. Just do not go there…….
Well $5000 for a Speedy like that… it would be in very very poor condition.
The good thing is that you got
Your money back! In glad it did end up well, just buy woth a reputable dealer or an ad near you cheers!
The Peruvian Speedmaster scammers have been on eBay for years, if something looks too good to be true, then it is! Most buyers have caught on and that's why their auctions end so cheap. They constantly pop up with the same watches under different usernames.
Peru is a sketchy place to buy a watch on eBay from.
I would never buy a watch from South America, every time i see the watch comes from there i pass, a lot of scam from that countries
Also, strongly recommend not to sell to those areas.
Dont buy anything from South America, I got burned for a Omega from a guy in Peru, he had three other Omegas I emailed him a bunch of times and he seemed lagit . Turned out he was just a crook. I got some of my money back from Ebay. This guy might be the same guy.
This 'scam; would not work as eBay sellers are not protected if the seller edits the shipping address...
Pro Tip: never buy a high priced luxury watch from third world countries or Russia.
Read and heed! This is excellent advice.
Guy buys watch from seller with very little feedback, from Peru, who can't answer basic questions about watch. Uh, really?
I almost paid to that Peruvian guy also, He used to photoshopped that ed white and list for a sell. apparently and fortunately, that watch is so so close similar to the one that the one who is an editor at Fretello owned. I ask the editor guy, thanks to him, he said that he still have that watch. So I decided to cancelled my offer. Hope you get the money back.
I did thankfully! I thought I heard something about that!
Always buy the buyer
From Peru? Likely an Inca watch 🤣
You're not gonna get subscribers by begging people to subscribe mid point
First! Yes im awake
Nice! I'd imagine that's early over there! I've seen your instagram before. Good stuff. love the new Pelagos
@@HarrisonElmore Wow that's awesome 👌🏾 Thanks for the follow man! And yes thanks 🙏🏾 yours too sir
Ebay will take down some of the negative feedback unfortunately. Ebay is part of the problem