Honestly it kind of felt unnecessary and hurtful to tell dusty not to do her signature makeup on the first episode. Like, that's a big deal for a queen, your makeup is part of the whole thing and just saying "yeah I hate it don't do that" is really harsh. And her makeups not even bad or anything...
I’m glad she still did it anyways (just smaller). Like if it’s her brand just stick to it, it’s not like it transforms anything of her actual drag. For Joey Jay (S13) it’s different because her hair made all looks similar, even if it was her brand. I felt bad for both, but I didn’t understood DRB’s criticisms at all.
Ikr? It's like telling Trixie to drop the clown makeup or Bianca to change up her extreme eye looks. And the circles allow for so much more variety than Trixie's look too cause you can change them to match your look entirely.
i feel like the judges are so selective with who gets to have a signature makeup look. said they hated dusty's, didn't say anything about bosco's.. a big component of drag race is honestly just favoritism lol
You know how they always claim "you don't need money" despite constantly proving otherwise? Monique could've proven that for them, but just ended up an example of how queens who don't have a ton of money get fucked over. She had a better storyline than most of the girls who made it farther than her, especially as a surprise frontrunner. She deserved to be in the top for the first challenge, had a bullshit bottom placement for the second episode (just like in All Stars 4), did the best in the Dragcon Panel challenge, especially compared to Aquaria and Asia who I honestly think did worse than anyone on Team Vixen, and I could go on and on. Monique deserved a hell of a lot better on Drag Race.
Honestly I'd love a season where they're forced to actually make more of their costumes. Doesn't even have to be a design challenge and can all be brought from home, just that they made it. How can I give a queen props on the runway when she didn't even make the outfit but commissioned someone else to? Like oh hey this outfit is great but you're just the hanger, who is the real artist here?
@@MeeplandHeights it's hard bc they have little time to prepare for the show, they wouldn't be able to craft many looks themselves and still prepare everything else. Hell, even their designers barely have the time to finish their looks! Plus, production would have to monitor if they actually did it w/o any help
We've gone way beyond any attempt of a natural play out by now. Symone straps a piece of fabric around her waist for a design challenge and she's safe, Kandy Muse has been given about 5 extra lives at this point, Denali sidelined and sent home when her teammate (who has copied two previous looks on the runway without any judge saying a thing) screws up... It's just off the charts...
@@jpruedag first of all Olivia didn’t copy any looks, she just happened to bring a similar outfit and a similar wig, which isn’t either of their faults. Second off the ball has three look, and you really think symone’s was worse than joey jays or lala’s looks? The only thing agree on is Denali being sidelined the whole competition, and eliminated prematurely.
Utica not getting the ball win, Kandy not going home and being saved constantly, Symone being a front runner storyline, Denali getting overlooked, Tina flatlining the entire season and somehow still there, mik being saved when should’ve been in the bottom, Wrong wins, saves and safe queen placements.. the list goes on
Kameron’s face at the end of her lip sync isn’t horror at the Butterfly Massacre it horror “Asia you’re really gonna make them send my ass to this final round aren’t you.” Kameron was really banking on Asia to keep her out of the final. Kameron wasn’t even Team Kameron 😭. I love Kameron so much but she never stood a chance at the crown going into final 5 and she knew that. Self aware legend, lip sync assassin, I Stan.
Aww Bless, I actually think reading all the riggory surrounding Eureka's double saves & Aquaria's mess up of hers and Eureka's lip sync then Kameron was the winner. On a couple of occasions Aquaria had some real dodgy outfits that I wouldn't call High Fashion
Season 8 is one of the most unmemorable for me...I didn't even remember how that season finished. The top two queens were lipsyncing for the crown since season 1, so I think that's fine, but I really dislike the top 4 format. I hope they change it again soon.
Nah it's a pretty popular opinion. It worked well only on season nine. But still left a lot of fans (and Shea I'm sure) with a bad taste in there mouths. Since then it's a complete joke of reveals. And bad one's at that. Kinda makes the entire season a complete joke to. All you gotta do is play safe until the finale and have one great lip sync ( with some stupid reveal or twist of coarse) Seasons 6-8 were the best in my opinion. It allowed the top queens to just showcase their drag. And win based on that and the competition.
I have a whole slew of work to get done, so discovering this channel based on this video is giving me feelings of impending doom... I can't close the app 💀😂
I think it’s easy to forget that Ru has a “high fashion” bias. I’m not saying it’s right, but it definitely hurts queens like Monique (who might have placed high in the first episode of her bodice and skirt weren’t rendered in the same material), Utica, and Denali while it helps queens like Raja, Mik, and Aquaria. Like the look Mik won the ball in was pure current high fashion (he put the reference in his Instagram), but Utica’s CONSTRUCTION was amazing. Monique worked freaking miracles, but because they weren’t Fashion, Ru slept on her.
I thought the reasoning Ru made during the episode was valid, the ball is about turning *three* looks and GottMik slayed. Utica's 1st and 2nd looks were just not as good.
I will never understand why people complain that Utica didn’t win the episode when she was in the top three. Utica had the best look of the entire episode, but Mik’s looks were ALL consistent and beautiful. Utica didn’t have a bad look, but the first two looks didn’t really impress me. If she won I would have been really surprised.
Utica made the single best outfit in 15 years of franchise out of sleeping bags and her 2 previous looks were pretty safe. It definetely deserved a win.
one thing to note: mayhem was told she wasn't wearing denim when she actually was and was sent home but on the OTHER denim runway where jimbo confirmed that rita was not wearing demin.......she won the episode...AND received praise for her outfit
@@poppy2976 She didn't even have a bad performance? like the only issue the judges had was that she wasn't at the same level as miz cracker, but there were whole groups who, in my opinion, did much worse than mayhem
2:36 Eureka didn't sprain her ankle on Season 9, she tore an ACL in one of her knees. Though you are absolutely right to call that cheerleading challenge a death trap!
The biggest rigged moments: - Aquaria and Eureka both getting a double save. - Monique’s lack of high placements and wins (episode 1 as well as a few others). - The Vixen’s edit.
Vixen was so disrespected the whole season and all she did was call out Eureka's blatant nonsense and the fans ate it up cause she's a loud black queen and not a white girl 🙄
@@MeeplandHeights Exactly, and I find it stupid that fans kept attacking her for the Angry Black Woman narrative argument she had with Aquaria, when Aquaria HERSELF said she was in the wrong
It’s interesting about your note on Mayhem and Monique, had they stood side by side on that stage, there’s no way they could have given Mayhem the win, however a similar thing happened AGAIN in S13’s ball, where Gottmik got the win, and yes she did a great job that week, but they handed Mik the win with Utica (whose outfit landed her a VOGUE ARTICLE) standing right there Nutritious food for thought I guess
When doing the ball challenge it's the overall looks being judged not just the one they make. Utica's ending garmet was absolutely stunning and better than Mik's BUT Mik's overall looks were better than Utica. Tbh I do not agree with Mayhem winning this challenge either.
I still sometimes watch that unaired clip of Monique trying on Blair’s wig and the Black queens all just chatting and joking around.. It’s soooo natural, funny, adorable, and all around a joy to watch.. I wish we had more moments of them interacting! Just awesome 💜
I also think it's possible they let both Aquaria and Eureka move on to the final lip sync to create some suspense since everyone knew Kameron wasn't gonna win lmao
then they should’ve had kameron and eureka lipsync and then an asia and aquaria lipsync 😭 plus kameron and eureka would make sense with their storyline to me bc they are friends and it would be like shea and sasha lipsyncing in the finale when they were besties all season
@@lolajuliet2662 Kameron beat Eureka as old women yet they were both saved, but even so if Aquaria did screw up her final lip sync then she should have lost fair and square then Kameron & Eureka would have been the final pair which would have been interesting. I'm going back through all this side stuff lol
Eureka tore her ACL in her knee, which is an incredibly long and grueling recovery both physically and mentally compared to an ankle sprain. I don't really think they needed to play up the drama on that story because her experience is one of the truest I've seen for that injury.
Yeah. Like for real. The fact that Eureka was able to do what she did as a 400 pound individual with a grueling knee injury is testament alone. Eureka did a jump split and split shimmy across the stage in the lip sync with Kameron, and that is a fucking FEAT. She deserved that double shantay.
Thank you! Why are people acting like “Oh, it’s basically a twisted ankle because of a soft fall”.. like, no ma’am, it’s a feat that she’s up there lip syncing and taking on some of these challenges at all, let the queen have her moment, lol
@@JonnieMayer17 no one's defending racism...we're talking about the injury that was misidentified in the video and how it shouldn't really have been used to generate drama. Don't make this out to be something it isn't.
my mom barely watches this show and even says “rupaul knows who he wants to keep/get rid of. doesnt matter what happens in the episode”. and she is kinda right, especially when you put it like you do in your video
But I do think it’s rupaul and his team. There’s probably a whole team of people that decide storylines how to edit and air each queen. I finally just noticed with this last Snatch Game episode in season 13 that they add a laugh track in the background to the jokes you’re supposed to think are funny and leave complete silence for the jokes you’re supposed to think are bad or don’t land. I never noticed it before this last snatch game but I feel like it’s one of those way they edit it to portray it in a specific way cause there’s no actual studio audience giving laughs during the snatch game it’s all edited in.
I want to commend you for always showing pictures of what you're referring to and being specific! It makes the video so much more engaging, and supports your points so well. You're rapidly improving.
Gonna disagree with Symone/Gottmik comparison for snatch game Gottmik (based on the edit) was hitting every single nail on the head. Consistently funny through the snatch game. Symone started incredibly, but faded to the background at the snatch game went on. She did good still, but was surpassed by Denali, and Mik
@@davidsuaress well the challenge is also about improv and playing and character. Symone landed a good first joke but then regressed back into her typical mannerisms while Denali, Mik and Rose were all in character the whole time and gave consistent jokes. Symone did well and her runway was the best of the week, but based on the challenge she didn’t deserve a top spot, much less a win
I agree completely. I think if there was one key moment at which Symone got knocked out of the top, it was when she froze after she mixed up her Jennifers and didn't bat back quite quickly enough to rescue herself. It didn't tank the performance, but it was too big a slip to justify her being in the top over the consistently solid Rosé and Denali. I know some people didn't find Rosé or Denali quite as funny as Symone, but both stayed perfectly in character throughout, and they made Ru laugh, but Ru's face visibly fell when Symone slipped. However, I do think the point DD was more trying to make is that it would have been difficult to properly critique such a beautiful AND political runway against Gottmik's without people then saying "well why didn't Symone win for her runway if you loved her performance enough to put her in the top?". I do think that it was the safer production decision from both a storyline and political standpoint for them to leave Symone as safe and blame the Snatch Game for it.
@@davidsuaress if you know Jonathan van ness is makes it so much more funnier because she was really doing an exaggerated version of him as if he isn’t exaggerated enough normally 😂😂 hope that makes sense it makes me really sad she went from doing so amazing in my eyes to going home the next episode 😭😔
Also Symone was really funny but it sorta just felt like Symone. I personally would have put her in the top instead of Denali but Mik deserved the win imo.
okay Blair going home after her speaking out was really sad, however, that's not a great excuse for her not to lipsync because of that. to me the story could have been like even she flopped the challenge, but after she speaks out she's driven to kill the lipsync and show that she's strong. like Monica Beverly Hills in season 5
Her story definitely felt like a moment of desperation. Like she knew she fucked up and wanted to tell the story then to possibly get out of being in the bottom.
@@raaid22 I did read an interview she had and you are kinda right because from what I can remember, she says that she felt very vulnerable during that time and just had to finally say it and tell the world her story since she was basically about to go home so yeah, I guess you could call it a desperation move of some sort. But I still love her so...
@@brielledemartin6541 idk, I think the other aspect of that for me is like... even in the edit (ie, the most positive light possible for the show as a whole), it's framed that what led into her saying that was a criticism of her having a very distinct persona that she didn't deviate from. But from what she said, the reason for her persona definitely had the air of, this not just being a stylistic choice but also kinda bleeding into being a coping mechanism? In which case, I can absolutely see how that would make her feel super vulnerable. Like, the vibe of that part to me comes across as a bit, the judges went to criticise her artistic approach and accidentally hit upon directly criticising something deeper, like, her worldview or coping strategy instead. I think if it is a wider, legit coping strategy given form through drag, she might be the example of the most direct link between 'thing the judges bring up' and 'traumatic disclosure,' because atm I can't think of another example where what prompted a disclosure was like, a direct justification of an artistic choice, rather than something to do with the queen's behaviour or skill level or level of engagement with a challenge, etc. Part of the reason I'm so inclined to believe that's the case is because she made that direct link of needing to do what the judges critiqued so that she doesn't feel 'dirty' - like, speaking from personal experience, that could easily be something adjacent to an obsessive-compulsive kind of developed behaviour, which is absolutely something that can arise as a trauma response, and which would fit closely with a desire for the type of performance put on to be very specific.
I think Aquaria’s double save in the finale is also a nod to earlier in the season when she gets frustrated about Kameron and Eureka both getting saved. She talks about how there’s only one double save each season and how she’s worried that if she fucks up that means she’s done for. Ironically she then messes up in the finale only for Ru to pull a second double save for the first time ever in a single season
Why do people still think Gottmik's snatch game wasn't worthy of a win? I mean, if it's not your taste then okay, but to say that Mik won that challenge just because of favoritism is kind of unfair, since that Paris Hilton impression is spot on AND funny for something that could've been boring.
Right? This was literally the first time I read that Gottmik's snatch game performance was not worth the win. Symone was literally doing Symone the whole time except her first moment where she was hiding.
I thought that too… there’s no way Symone would have won with her snatch game over Mik. Symone was funny but not even close to Mik’s Paris Hilton. There was FOR SURE riggory in season 13, but not giving Symone the win was not one of them.
Agreed! I think people just don’t like Mik because of perceived favoritism in other places, maybe? I thought Mik’s snatch game was far and away the best and her runways are always great. Symone deserved higher placement, maybe, but not the win on that one!
I agree but Monét and Cracker were the only other Queens worthy of winning the challenge. But I think the runway is what set it off bc Asia is the only one who did good in the challenge and had a solid runway
Plus she knew the words, which was always Eureka's problem when she wasn't lipsyncing for her life. Call Me Mother was an... interesting watch given that Eureka was the only one on stage who didn't know the words and was blatantly flubbing them - same with a lot of Bang Bang.
Plus they didn't solely do it to justify a draw - Shea apparently also slipped on the rose petals during the s9 finale, and despite Sasha winning they edited it out and didn't show her losing her balance.
Overall, I'm happy with the endgame, Aquaria did deserve to win imo and even now, today is using her platform doing amazing things for many different communities, BLM, LGBTQ+ rights and Trans lives etc., and is only 25 years old! I have absolutely nothing but respect for her. She's relatively unproblematic and a phenomenal voice for the drag community. I was such a hardcore #TeamAsia person but after butterfly-gate I think Aquaria deserved it the most. Eureka got her rudemption, and proved she was a force to be reckoned with in S9, Asia ended up starring on Vegas Revue, and Kameron proved she is a fierce ass lipsyncer who deserved to be in the Top 4. Talented, all of them.
@@JuanitoEsBonito That's because Asia, before Drag Race, was one of the main cast at Station Four's Rose Room for YEARS and a pageant queen, she learned from the BEST on how to host a show. (Forever going to stan miss Layla LaRue.)
Disagree. Have you ever tried doing a jump split and shimmying across the stage while sustaining that split? Have you ever done it after recovering from a serious knee injury and surgery with nearly a year long recovery process? Have you ever done it while being twice as big/heavy as your competitor? People don't give Eureka enough credit for how difficult that was and that she still did it.
@@troyyrob i wont give her credit for being big, thats saying she can be ok for being big. For me thats fatphobic. And are you really saying that splits win lip syncs? say that to sahara davenport. Lip syncs are for pretending you are singing, giving emotions and kameron was way better at that in that one song.
I mean the final song was a three person song so I think regardless if aquaria did better or eureka they would have prob kept both, Since ppl really didn't like eureka if she ended up in a final 3 way lifsync it would have created more drama. And eureka kinda had a lot of excuses throughout the season, like you have a whole year to prepare and your "best drag" look is a sequence body suit really.
the biggest robbery of s10 is monique not getting the first win (which she even called out in her confessional purrr) and monet's breastworld win i was literally dying so hard when she said "cockadoodle-do-me-daddy"
@@agustinrodriguez3514 That’s what I be telling people! It’s kinda annoying when people say “it wasn’t judged fairly” like it’s a show at the end of it all. It wasn’t judged unfairly on purpose. For years Queens have said the winner is chosen by episode 1 or before filming but they have to have a story and front runners and people who bring drama. It makes the show interesting rather then a fair competition that will eventually bore the viewers
Wholeheartedly agree, her along with Aquaria, had a theme and a storyline for their runways which is why I stand by that she didn't deserve to lipsync for that alone. Both Monique and The Vixen's looks were just so weak unfortunately.
I do think this finale was the best example of why the Lipsync for the Crown is an awful idea. I can't believe they still do the Lipsync for the Crown after this mess of a finale.
Imo Monique and Blair were consistently robbed, glad they got to go far on all stars (Blair would’ve won one or maybe even two challenges if the old rules were intact)
The new rules isn't what kept Blaire from winning any challenges lol unless I totally forgot how as5 worked, the girls didn't choose who won challenges.. Blaire was pretty underwhelming in as5 actually, I was expecting her to shine but she was fairly boring.
@@griffinoleary1053 Even then, I still think that all of the others in the top 5 would have beaten her overall. She just didn't wow that much imo. I felt like she still had room to grow, and she seemed simultaneously a bit too full of herself, while also still desperate for approval from the other queens. I think she's still a very talented queen, but she just wasn't it on AS5.
@@BambiTrout Yh obvi she wasn’t gonna win the whole thing but I’m saying she would’ve been in the top two for the girl group challenge and probably with mayhem in the hotel challenge since ru said their team was best. And her getting wins would probably help her confidence in the other challenges, I feel the same about Alexis winning the talent show and snatch game (juju probably wouldn’t be able to win since they chose 1 winner from each group in AS 4 and it’d probably be the same in as5)
Probably unpopular opinion: I think Aquaria did better than Eureka in the finale LipSync (the double shantay one), like, i know that they probably edited out Aquaria’s mistake etc, but at least she performs, and Eureka performance to me was just ruveal after ruveal and all the high kick/splits she always did 🤨
(i haven't gotten to the end of the video yet so excuse me if this has been said in the video but) i think regardless of who outperformed who in that lip sync it would've been a double shantay. if it wasn't, the final final lip sync would have absolutely no suspense since kameron was obviously not winning over either one of the two.
I was just commenting this! I hate the lip sync for the crown, and I’m sure most of the fandom do at this moment. Because of Sasha it’s become so much about who can have the biggest reveal and not about the “performance” of the song. Eureka’s performance, IMO, was all smoke and no fire when compared to Aquaria’s
I love these videos and just subscribed buuuut I do wish you would include more snapshots of runways, especially when you discuss balls. I don't remember what these girls wear after so many seasons and when you say "x looks better than z" and you show either neither of them or only 1 of the 2 it's hard for me to judge. Otherwise, love this!
... Symone was better at SG than Gottmik? That was actually the only win Gottmik had that I agreed with lol. Symone was funny too but not funnier than Gottmik imo (even if this opinion is kinda scary since I might be seen as biased toward a white queen).
I don’t think that Symone deserved to win snatch game honestly. Sure, she did good, but Gottmik’s Paris was one of the best snatch games we’ve ever had, and completely deserved that win. Not to mention, Denali and Rosé both also deserved their high placements, as they did really great in snatch game, better than Symone, and both had good runways.
@@lizzygrant2518 I mean that Denali and Rosé both did better than her in snatch game, not on the runway. Symone had an outstanding runway, but Denali and Rosé had good enough ones to keep their high placements
I would’ve swapped Rose for Symone in the top. I think Gottmik’s win was deserved, but Symone’s runway was miles ahead of Rose’s and their snatch games were roughly even
I cant remember which queen who said it- it might've been a pit-stop- but just like mariah on as5 with her red paint performance, the judges dont like ranking political things like that beyond safe. if its low, its disrespectful; if its high, its political favoritism (in the eyes of the fans). Not saying that symone didnt have an amazing runway, but that its a common thing for looks like that to be placed safe as a precaution for the shows "reputation" or whatever. Its a stupid idea, but i think that's why she was safe.
I had to pause the video and say this piece that Gottmik 100% deserved the Snatch Game win, Symone started off strong but she faded away, while Gottmik nailed every delivery and i think the fact that she chose an iconic famous character from the industry which helped viewers get her act and jokes as well helped too, weeks after the snatch episode people still talked about Miks performance, I think Rose/Denali were on par with Symone if not better. So im sorry but youre biased here.
Blair was facing a DUI court (that’s also why there is no Watcha Packin Season 10 with her), that’s why I think there were getting rid of her so quickly.
@@ewanxo As soon as getting eliminated Blair was supposed to face a court due to driving under influence of drugs. I can image that production knew about this, so Blair was given only a little amount of airtime in order for viewers not no connect with her too much. So as soon as she flopped (the DragCon challenge) production saw a good opportunity to justify getting her out of the competition without huge backlash. That’s my assumption ;)
@@freshavocado2482 Aquaria was the right choice though lmao She was showing so much versatility. Not only was she a fashion Queen but also showed that she can be funny and have a personality.
@jesus Is a homo I like her too. In the finale it was her or Asia and we all know what happened with Asia 🦋. I hate how they tried to do favoritsm with her because I feel she didn't need it
I was at the S11 Finale and I can confirm there is a biiiiig disconnect between reality and the final product. I was CRUSHED because we were convinced A'Keria had just sent home Yvie in the first round.... only for Yvie to win the lip sync....
@@bombasticass2973 they lip sync to a “cut” of the song. so hypothetically if SOS is 3.5min, they’ll lipsync to 2.5min so they have 2min of footage for the show.
I think some of the most blatant rigging in drag race history is Asia and Vixen. They should have been in the bottom two together four separate times and only were once. The first episode, bossy rossy, snatch game, and then the rusical. It’s just so weird how they were consistently the worst two but were saved from the bottom
Hold up hold up hold up, Symones snatch Game performance better than Gottmiks? Even with Symone being my top pick I have to say Gottmik was definitely funnier.
Kamerons the only queen to actually lip sync her way to the finale and she never once bragged about it or made it her excuse to not try in the challenges. Every season there’s a “if I have to lip sync my way to the crown I will” yet kamerons the only one who actually did it
6:16 Symone deserved to be high that episode but Gottmik deserved winning was absolutely logical: She WAS the best in Snatch Game and her runway was the best as well if we ignore that Symone's look had a political message. Symone's look was polished and clean but outside of the political message, it was a safe runway - nothing outstanding considering that this was a fascinator challenge. So no, she didn't deserve to win but she was the second best that week followed by Rosé.
Seriously one of my favorite channels on UA-cam. Literally you vocalize every single theory I felt while watching these seasons, it's like so cathartic watching these vids lol Thank you for these!!
I can’t say Aquaria didn’t do well in the season, but I really thought Eureka deserved the win. She stumbled a bit, but she was so good in so many challenges and she was definitely the most polished big girl we’ve had on the show. I thought it was the big girl’s turn. Didn’t know she was unliked by the viewers.
I think another aspect to consider when it comes to Blair's elimination is the Roxxxy Andrews effect. Where Roxxxy also told a sad emotional story when she was in the bottom and then she was immediately saved from elimination in the double save. If they had done the same thing with blair it likely would have looked bad to have a similar thing of a queen telling they're deem traumatic story and then getting saved from elimination. That's not a pattern you want your audience to notice.
DO U all remember how they tried to sell Dusty as a fierce lipsync-er omg x.D she was just pretending to have withdrawals the whole way thru while Monet slayed her whole life.
Just to add - they tried to sell Dusty as a fierce lip-sync queen BUT Awhora (go find Awhora doing Applause/Bloody Mary) as someone with 0 capabilities to dance or lip-sync; watch that performance as well as any other performance she has uploaded -.-. Awhora WAS ROBBED!!!
For the finale of this season there are so many factors that went into it. Aquaria had the best track record and was definitely the most viable option to win. Learning that she tripped during her lip sync and Eureka won is kinda shocking, but the producers were never going to crown Eureka or Kameron because of the unwritten "bottom two more than once" rule. Asia, who was the only other option, was out the door as soon as the butterflies happened lol. great video per usual!
season ten is my favorite season for the cast. the queens were all SO talented and the challenges didn’t really give them a chance to prove themselves.
Not disagreeing, but that's been an ongoing issue with the judging of the show... the runway counts as much as the judges/producers want it to count in challenges (except in runway only challenges).
@@dante6985 I feel like runways are kinda tie-breakers if you get me. Like Tops and Bottoms are decided on the challenge and then like if two people had evenly good performances ut one of them has clearly a better look, they win. For example, in my opinion, Denali's snatch game was a win worthy performance, but she had a clearly worse runway, while Gottmik had a great snatch game and look, thus winning. Or in this case, everyone had bad performances, but one of them had a superior look to compared to the other two, thus saving them.
If I was a producer I would’ve done an Alyssa vs Roxxxy with making the heartfelt story from Blair into a double shantay for her and Vixen; that and I would want to keep the high-placing queens in the competition since Blair was performing well. That and it closes the double shantay for Kameron and Eureka but that’s hindsight.
problem with symones snatch game: SHE WAS PLAYING HERSELF! SHE WASN'T DOING HER CHARACTER! Miks snatch game was always in character and the look was on point and all the jokes landed.
In all fairness, NO ONE alive today knows how Harriet Tubman was as a person. Symone (although playing herself) used references to give Harriet a personality.
To think there's a timeline out there where the finale came down to Eureka and Kameron, and Kameron or Eureka or possibly both could've been crowned. haha
Its really weird how often a queen goes home after having a huge emotional moment in the same episode. Blair this season. Mercedes in season 11 after opening up about her feelings as a Muslim in America (she got sent home on a challenge about Trump which is a tough look, especially when she didnt even do bad) Alyssa getting sent home on the anniversary of her mother's passing with her sister who had seen eachother for the first time since their mother's funeral. Laganja gets eliminated after being basically humiliated in Untucked. Monica Beverly Hillz comes out as trans on the main stage and is eliminated a few episodes later. The thing about this one is that the very next episode after she is eliminated has Chaz Bono heavily involved, and Im sure it would have been a great confidence boost for Monica to have a moment with him.
Loving this season 10 appreciation. Even though pretty much every episode after vixen's elimination was pretty bad it really made the queens memorable with all their storylines
Season 10 more subtle? Lmfao. Everyone knew Aquaria was going to win that season, from the beggining. Also the rumours aren't that necessary since Eureka beat Aquaria's ass on that lip sync, whether she fell or not.
watching this and at the part discussing Symone/Gottmik in Snatch Game… in what universe did Symone have a better snatch game performance than Gottmik?😭😭
The most memorable thing about season 10 for me is how horribly painful the reunion episode was, with RuPaul gaslighting and devalidating The Vixen's experience and refusing to consider her perspective to pander to fragile white egos, and seeing Asia O'Hara clock what was going on, try to help, only to be shut down and brought to tears in the process. Asia essentially had to silence herself to stay in RuPaul's good graces. Sure, the vixen sparked conflict a couple times that may have been unnecessary, but that wasn't the case across the board, and that wasn't acknowledged. It was all poor hurt Eureka. Yeah that's something I can't watch again.
YES! I will never forgive them for how they villainized the Vixen. Like sure she go into it with people, but so have lots of beloved queens; it's the way the editing framed it tho that really did her wrong. The reunion was awful, Ru straight up told her that sometimes u need to be quiet and take it. Like wtf!? That's terrible advice. But no one can tell Ru that, oh no, so the Vixen is the villain for wanting to stand up for herself. Ugh. After that reunion I went back and rewatched the season and it was so much clearer to me how the editing was biased and villainizing the Vixen
If we look at them all, dusty and kalorie were the only “filler” queens out of how ever many queens they had, like most of them are either successful or on all stars, wild... prolly best season when it comes to fan bases
Unpopular opinion but I actually didn't like Symone's snatch game as much. It's like she wanted to show and tell the character, but didn't really know anything else than she helped the slaves escape.
Gottmik didnt just win snatch game cause she was “productions pick” lmfao tf. Her Paris Hilton was the BEST performance of the night coupled with an amazing runway that win was crystal clear. While Symone had the best runway of the night imo she did a serviceable job in snatch game. She didn’t perform better than Denali, Mikk, or Rosé in the challenge. A better comparison is the Madonna Rusical where Jan did the best and had the best runway but production gave the win to Gigi.
aquaria is my favorite WINNER of all time. where most girls only excelled in one category, she had them all! she is a STAR! and monique was definitely looked over the entire season. she was top 4 (maybe top 3) material.
Honestly, even tho there was favoritism, this was one of the few seasons where it felt natural to me, the queens were smart and didn’t play obvious stupid storylines like Cracker VS Aquaria and Eureka did sell it this season, looking back, from the “Big girl reaches Top 4” storyline Eureka was the most deserving considering her accident in season 9, even the Kameron VS Eureka was a top tier lip sync, Kameron should have stayed over Eureka, but I wasn’t mad at Rufrack keeping both because they both sold it, it felt earned it felt worth it, compared to Kandy Vs Symone
Curiously, while watching the season, I liked Eureka and couldn't stand Aquaria. To this day I still think Eureka deserved to be the first big girl winner, she elevated the looks big girls with really big bodies brought into the competition in this season, and she did well throughout the competition. Idk it's always curious to me how production always finds a way to favor thin queens over big girls in finales and whatnot, somehow their performance seems to never be enohgh for them to consider giving them the crown. But oh well
The biggest riggory was no one told Asia that butterflies can’t survive in a hot confined space for any amount of time.
Didn’t google exist in 2018 💀
holy #*$%
Apparently Asia trained for a couple months with butterflies to perform the stunt... guess it didn’t pay off
@@Zaulr9797 she must have been rehearsing without the butterflies lmao budgets etc
@@Charlie_Loves anioop
Honestly it kind of felt unnecessary and hurtful to tell dusty not to do her signature makeup on the first episode. Like, that's a big deal for a queen, your makeup is part of the whole thing and just saying "yeah I hate it don't do that" is really harsh. And her makeups not even bad or anything...
right! like they literally casted her and knew about it...
I’m glad she still did it anyways (just smaller). Like if it’s her brand just stick to it, it’s not like it transforms anything of her actual drag. For Joey Jay (S13) it’s different because her hair made all looks similar, even if it was her brand. I felt bad for both, but I didn’t understood DRB’s criticisms at all.
Ikr? It's like telling Trixie to drop the clown makeup or Bianca to change up her extreme eye looks. And the circles allow for so much more variety than Trixie's look too cause you can change them to match your look entirely.
Judges : be yourself
Also judges : but not like that
i feel like the judges are so selective with who gets to have a signature makeup look. said they hated dusty's, didn't say anything about bosco's.. a big component of drag race is honestly just favoritism lol
Monique just got the middle finger on both her seasons
wait for the riggory of as4 to just be about how monique was robbed the entire time
@@DragDetective
👀🍿....This is the kind of T I subscribed for! Imma keep my notifications on for that one haha.
Monique had the better trackrecord out of the top 4 (besides Trinity) yet she wasn't crowned in the double crowning...
Monique was SO ROBBED 😭😭😭😭
@@kingvamp8267 yeah if they wanted a double win so bad it shouldve been Monique and Trinity
You know how they always claim "you don't need money" despite constantly proving otherwise? Monique could've proven that for them, but just ended up an example of how queens who don't have a ton of money get fucked over. She had a better storyline than most of the girls who made it farther than her, especially as a surprise frontrunner. She deserved to be in the top for the first challenge, had a bullshit bottom placement for the second episode (just like in All Stars 4), did the best in the Dragcon Panel challenge, especially compared to Aquaria and Asia who I honestly think did worse than anyone on Team Vixen, and I could go on and on. Monique deserved a hell of a lot better on Drag Race.
Ru on set: "You don't need money to do drag"
Ru on the panel: "you look cheap, your makeup is cheap, you look like a bargain bin, up for elimination"
@loveutill theendoftimes so....only drag queens with a lot of money should be able to compete and have a chance to win on the show ? nice.
Honestly I'd love a season where they're forced to actually make more of their costumes. Doesn't even have to be a design challenge and can all be brought from home, just that they made it. How can I give a queen props on the runway when she didn't even make the outfit but commissioned someone else to? Like oh hey this outfit is great but you're just the hanger, who is the real artist here?
@@MeeplandHeights it's hard bc they have little time to prepare for the show, they wouldn't be able to craft many looks themselves and still prepare everything else. Hell, even their designers barely have the time to finish their looks! Plus, production would have to monitor if they actually did it w/o any help
the second you said that monique should have won the first challenge i knew we were on the same wavelength
Rigga morris, girl!
Except Mayhems outfit was better than Moniques. She did deserve too over Yuhua and Blair tho
right its those certain things you agree with people on that equate how you both feel about something
Girl no mayhem was the clear winner
@@nischalprajapati6157 no one says that but werk
In the words of Lizzo: “I’ve been waiting for this one! TURN IT UP!!!”
I was just about to comment this lmao
I physically said this
lmaoooo yes!
the season 10 finale was a fever dream... especially the butterflies
@She Don’t Know The Words even if it did worked, no one would even see the tiny fellas. I never understood her outfit.
I didn’t watch it because I knew who won but damn it sounds horrific
no that’s season 11, season 10 is the best season
@@kotytingz9640 there were dead insects all over the stage 💀 season 10 was definitely as much as a mess
@@lmaoblvd4954 ... kameron stomped them to death 🤡
I just know "The Riggotry of Season 13" will be the longest
Girl, we need a series for that
Kandy should’ve fucking went home
We've gone way beyond any attempt of a natural play out by now. Symone straps a piece of fabric around her waist for a design challenge and she's safe, Kandy Muse has been given about 5 extra lives at this point, Denali sidelined and sent home when her teammate (who has copied two previous looks on the runway without any judge saying a thing) screws up... It's just off the charts...
@@jpruedag first of all Olivia didn’t copy any looks, she just happened to bring a similar outfit and a similar wig, which isn’t either of their faults. Second off the ball has three look, and you really think symone’s was worse than joey jays or lala’s looks? The only thing agree on is Denali being sidelined the whole competition, and eliminated prematurely.
Utica not getting the ball win, Kandy not going home and being saved constantly, Symone being a front runner storyline, Denali getting overlooked, Tina flatlining the entire season and somehow still there, mik being saved when should’ve been in the bottom, Wrong wins, saves and safe queen placements.. the list goes on
I fully believe that Eureka was told she'd have a guaranteed spot in the top four if she doesn't sue WOW for injuries sustained
On point
Lmaooo
apparently it's in their contract that they cannot sue WOW for any injuries they sustain.
@@3333alex maybe they added that clause after the Eureka fiasco
@@jaded_dahlia I really would not put it past them, valid point.
Kameron’s face at the end of her lip sync isn’t horror at the Butterfly Massacre it horror “Asia you’re really gonna make them send my ass to this final round aren’t you.” Kameron was really banking on Asia to keep her out of the final. Kameron wasn’t even Team Kameron 😭. I love Kameron so much but she never stood a chance at the crown going into final 5 and she knew that. Self aware legend, lip sync assassin, I Stan.
Aww Bless, I actually think reading all the riggory surrounding Eureka's double saves & Aquaria's mess up of hers and Eureka's lip sync then Kameron was the winner.
On a couple of occasions Aquaria had some real dodgy outfits that I wouldn't call High Fashion
Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't like the lipsync for the crown thing. I much rather have individual performances like on season 8.
Yea it kinda negates the season given the season is about challenges and lipsyncing is for those who don't do well. It should go back to that format
Season 8 is one of the most unmemorable for me...I didn't even remember how that season finished. The top two queens were lipsyncing for the crown since season 1, so I think that's fine, but I really dislike the top 4 format. I hope they change it again soon.
Nah it's a pretty popular opinion. It worked well only on season nine. But still left a lot of fans (and Shea I'm sure) with a bad taste in there mouths.
Since then it's a complete joke of reveals. And bad one's at that. Kinda makes the entire season a complete joke to. All you gotta do is play safe until the finale and have one great lip sync ( with some stupid reveal or twist of coarse)
Seasons 6-8 were the best in my opinion. It allowed the top queens to just showcase their drag. And win based on that and the competition.
@@chriscze6153 well that’s just you
i feel like it just feels random like maybe do it to get go the finale not for the crown idk
Me: I’m busy.
*sees this*
Me: I’m not that busy.
I have a whole slew of work to get done, so discovering this channel based on this video is giving me feelings of impending doom... I can't close the app 💀😂
I think it’s easy to forget that Ru has a “high fashion” bias. I’m not saying it’s right, but it definitely hurts queens like Monique (who might have placed high in the first episode of her bodice and skirt weren’t rendered in the same material), Utica, and Denali while it helps queens like Raja, Mik, and Aquaria. Like the look Mik won the ball in was pure current high fashion (he put the reference in his Instagram), but Utica’s CONSTRUCTION was amazing. Monique worked freaking miracles, but because they weren’t Fashion, Ru slept on her.
I thought the reasoning Ru made during the episode was valid, the ball is about turning *three* looks and GottMik slayed. Utica's 1st and 2nd looks were just not as good.
For me the double win in All Stars 4 could have gone to Monique. I love her sense of style, humor and personality.
I will never understand why people complain that Utica didn’t win the episode when she was in the top three. Utica had the best look of the entire episode, but Mik’s looks were ALL consistent and beautiful. Utica didn’t have a bad look, but the first two looks didn’t really impress me. If she won I would have been really surprised.
@@Frostyad7251 Idk, imo, Mik's last outfit didn't make sense to me, maybe its because its "high fashion" or whatever, but it just looks like a mess
Utica made the single best outfit in 15 years of franchise out of sleeping bags and her 2 previous looks were pretty safe. It definetely deserved a win.
one thing to note: mayhem was told she wasn't wearing denim when she actually was and was sent home but on the OTHER denim runway where jimbo confirmed that rita was not wearing demin.......she won the episode...AND received praise for her outfit
Mayhem getting a negative critique for denim that isn’t blue 🙄🙄
Not you believing salty ass Jimbo lmao
I’m pretty sure Rita confirmed she was wearing denim
but girl, Mayhem's performance that week was terrible. Her runway was okay, but she deserved to go home.
@@poppy2976 She didn't even have a bad performance? like the only issue the judges had was that she wasn't at the same level as miz cracker, but there were whole groups who, in my opinion, did much worse than mayhem
2:36 Eureka didn't sprain her ankle on Season 9, she tore an ACL in one of her knees. Though you are absolutely right to call that cheerleading challenge a death trap!
The biggest rigged moments:
- Aquaria and Eureka both getting a double save.
- Monique’s lack of high placements and wins (episode 1 as well as a few others).
- The Vixen’s edit.
Do you mean Kameron and Eureka?
@@jessp5826 no. watch the video
Vixen was so disrespected the whole season and all she did was call out Eureka's blatant nonsense and the fans ate it up cause she's a loud black queen and not a white girl 🙄
Eureka just couldn't win, a racist winning? Nah. The rest i agree, I love the vixen
@@MeeplandHeights Exactly, and I find it stupid that fans kept attacking her for the Angry Black Woman narrative argument she had with Aquaria, when Aquaria HERSELF said she was in the wrong
"deathtra... i mean cheerleading challenge" lmao
I was screaming
I see your comments everywhere I go on YT. 😮
@@KandiKisses101 i spend too much time online💀
Justice for Monique Heart! One of the most well-rounded queens in drag race herstery!
Delusional.
She can’t even keep her wig on? And she didn’t know her lipsych words?
Hope she win all stars international
Definitely you mean AS4 Monique heart.she wasn't ready for this season
Nah ! Her outfits a just ok and even today and after many seasons her make up looks bad
It’s interesting about your note on Mayhem and Monique, had they stood side by side on that stage, there’s no way they could have given Mayhem the win, however a similar thing happened AGAIN in S13’s ball, where Gottmik got the win, and yes she did a great job that week, but they handed Mik the win with Utica (whose outfit landed her a VOGUE ARTICLE) standing right there
Nutritious food for thought I guess
I love Mik but Utica 100% deserves that win
... but MIk was on Vogue too!! I think Utica and Mik both had outstanding garments, but MIk's first two looks were better than Utica's.
When doing the ball challenge it's the overall looks being judged not just the one they make. Utica's ending garmet was absolutely stunning and better than Mik's BUT Mik's overall looks were better than Utica.
Tbh I do not agree with Mayhem winning this challenge either.
utica's sleeping bag dress was outstanding but with balls all three of the looks have to be good
@@KPOPHaengbok Okay but if it’s a sewing challenge, then the emphasis should be on the created look then, right?? Right??
Season 10 got the most iconic black excellences but the production & the fans just spat on all of them
PERIOOOOOOODT!
I still sometimes watch that unaired clip of Monique trying on Blair’s wig and the Black queens all just chatting and joking around.. It’s soooo natural, funny, adorable, and all around a joy to watch.. I wish we had more moments of them interacting! Just awesome 💜
Exactly like the season wasn't even bad
@@CheshireCesare Is it just me, or does Vixen seem WAY nicer in the unaired clips than in what the show portrayed about her
True
Monique, monet, vixen, asia is just good tv + they are all talented
The fact Miz wasn't in the top for her Cher Rusical is LITERALLY CRIMINAL
I loved Miz Cher piece so much that I still sing it, I thought Kameron was the overall winner but the Miz verse was just so catchy
Literally!!!! Eureka wasn’t even giving Cher, she was giving Meatloaf.
Cracker deserved the win
I also think it's possible they let both Aquaria and Eureka move on to the final lip sync to create some suspense since everyone knew Kameron wasn't gonna win lmao
then they should’ve had kameron and eureka lipsync and then an asia and aquaria lipsync 😭 plus kameron and eureka would make sense with their storyline to me bc they are friends and it would be like shea and sasha lipsyncing in the finale when they were besties all season
@@lolajuliet2662 Kameron beat Eureka as old women yet they were both saved, but even so if Aquaria did screw up her final lip sync then she should have lost fair and square then Kameron & Eureka would have been the final pair which would have been interesting.
I'm going back through all this side stuff lol
Eureka tore her ACL in her knee, which is an incredibly long and grueling recovery both physically and mentally compared to an ankle sprain. I don't really think they needed to play up the drama on that story because her experience is one of the truest I've seen for that injury.
Yeah. Like for real. The fact that Eureka was able to do what she did as a 400 pound individual with a grueling knee injury is testament alone. Eureka did a jump split and split shimmy across the stage in the lip sync with Kameron, and that is a fucking FEAT. She deserved that double shantay.
Thank you! Why are people acting like “Oh, it’s basically a twisted ankle because of a soft fall”.. like, no ma’am, it’s a feat that she’s up there lip syncing and taking on some of these challenges at all, let the queen have her moment, lol
Not y’all defending the racist lmao
@@JonnieMayer17 no one's defending racism...we're talking about the injury that was misidentified in the video and how it shouldn't really have been used to generate drama. Don't make this out to be something it isn't.
@@JonnieMayer17 damn, you're really being bitter in all the comments 💀
I will die on the hill that Monique was robbed in that first challenge
my mom barely watches this show and even says “rupaul knows who he wants to keep/get rid of. doesnt matter what happens in the episode”. and she is kinda right, especially when you put it like you do in your video
But I do think it’s rupaul and his team. There’s probably a whole team of people that decide storylines how to edit and air each queen. I finally just noticed with this last Snatch Game episode in season 13 that they add a laugh track in the background to the jokes you’re supposed to think are funny and leave complete silence for the jokes you’re supposed to think are bad or don’t land. I never noticed it before this last snatch game but I feel like it’s one of those way they edit it to portray it in a specific way cause there’s no actual studio audience giving laughs during the snatch game it’s all edited in.
@@bryh555 oh yeah its not just rupaul. its all the producers. they pick and choose for their own narratives.
I want to commend you for always showing pictures of what you're referring to and being specific! It makes the video so much more engaging, and supports your points so well. You're rapidly improving.
Agreed!
Gonna disagree with Symone/Gottmik comparison for snatch game
Gottmik (based on the edit) was hitting every single nail on the head. Consistently funny through the snatch game. Symone started incredibly, but faded to the background at the snatch game went on. She did good still, but was surpassed by Denali, and Mik
i found Symone more funny than Rose imo -
@@davidsuaress well the challenge is also about improv and playing and character. Symone landed a good first joke but then regressed back into her typical mannerisms while Denali, Mik and Rose were all in character the whole time and gave consistent jokes. Symone did well and her runway was the best of the week, but based on the challenge she didn’t deserve a top spot, much less a win
I agree completely. I think if there was one key moment at which Symone got knocked out of the top, it was when she froze after she mixed up her Jennifers and didn't bat back quite quickly enough to rescue herself. It didn't tank the performance, but it was too big a slip to justify her being in the top over the consistently solid Rosé and Denali.
I know some people didn't find Rosé or Denali quite as funny as Symone, but both stayed perfectly in character throughout, and they made Ru laugh, but Ru's face visibly fell when Symone slipped.
However, I do think the point DD was more trying to make is that it would have been difficult to properly critique such a beautiful AND political runway against Gottmik's without people then saying "well why didn't Symone win for her runway if you loved her performance enough to put her in the top?". I do think that it was the safer production decision from both a storyline and political standpoint for them to leave Symone as safe and blame the Snatch Game for it.
@@davidsuaress if you know Jonathan van ness is makes it so much more funnier because she was really doing an exaggerated version of him as if he isn’t exaggerated enough normally 😂😂 hope that makes sense it makes me really sad she went from doing so amazing in my eyes to going home the next episode 😭😔
Also Symone was really funny but it sorta just felt like Symone. I personally would have put her in the top instead of Denali but Mik deserved the win imo.
okay Blair going home after her speaking out was really sad, however, that's not a great excuse for her not to lipsync because of that. to me the story could have been like even she flopped the challenge, but after she speaks out she's driven to kill the lipsync and show that she's strong. like Monica Beverly Hills in season 5
Her story definitely felt like a moment of desperation. Like she knew she fucked up and wanted to tell the story then to possibly get out of being in the bottom.
@@raaid22 I did read an interview she had and you are kinda right because from what I can remember, she says that she felt very vulnerable during that time and just had to finally say it and tell the world her story since she was basically about to go home so yeah, I guess you could call it a desperation move of some sort. But I still love her so...
@@brielledemartin6541 idk, I think the other aspect of that for me is like... even in the edit (ie, the most positive light possible for the show as a whole), it's framed that what led into her saying that was a criticism of her having a very distinct persona that she didn't deviate from. But from what she said, the reason for her persona definitely had the air of, this not just being a stylistic choice but also kinda bleeding into being a coping mechanism?
In which case, I can absolutely see how that would make her feel super vulnerable. Like, the vibe of that part to me comes across as a bit, the judges went to criticise her artistic approach and accidentally hit upon directly criticising something deeper, like, her worldview or coping strategy instead. I think if it is a wider, legit coping strategy given form through drag, she might be the example of the most direct link between 'thing the judges bring up' and 'traumatic disclosure,' because atm I can't think of another example where what prompted a disclosure was like, a direct justification of an artistic choice, rather than something to do with the queen's behaviour or skill level or level of engagement with a challenge, etc.
Part of the reason I'm so inclined to believe that's the case is because she made that direct link of needing to do what the judges critiqued so that she doesn't feel 'dirty' - like, speaking from personal experience, that could easily be something adjacent to an obsessive-compulsive kind of developed behaviour, which is absolutely something that can arise as a trauma response, and which would fit closely with a desire for the type of performance put on to be very specific.
I think Aquaria’s double save in the finale is also a nod to earlier in the season when she gets frustrated about Kameron and Eureka both getting saved. She talks about how there’s only one double save each season and how she’s worried that if she fucks up that means she’s done for. Ironically she then messes up in the finale only for Ru to pull a second double save for the first time ever in a single season
She should have gone, 1. because she totally fkd up and 2. because she was such a bitch about the Kameron /Eureka save
Why do people still think Gottmik's snatch game wasn't worthy of a win? I mean, if it's not your taste then okay, but to say that Mik won that challenge just because of favoritism is kind of unfair, since that Paris Hilton impression is spot on AND funny for something that could've been boring.
Right? This was literally the first time I read that Gottmik's snatch game performance was not worth the win. Symone was literally doing Symone the whole time except her first moment where she was hiding.
exactly! it's one of the most memorable snatch games i have EVER seen
Yeah when this person said Symone deserved the win I was floored lol
I thought that too… there’s no way Symone would have won with her snatch game over Mik. Symone was funny but not even close to Mik’s Paris Hilton. There was FOR SURE riggory in season 13, but not giving Symone the win was not one of them.
Agreed! I think people just don’t like Mik because of perceived favoritism in other places, maybe? I thought Mik’s snatch game was far and away the best and her runways are always great. Symone deserved higher placement, maybe, but not the win on that one!
Who else is already excited for the 'riggory of season 13' video? Ready to hear your thoughts on ep 10...
The whole season has been nothing BUT riggory, it could be its own series lolll 😂
Lmao Denali made Olivia look disgusting. Y’all really gotta give that one tf up
@@JonnieMayer17 you mean olivia made denali look disgusting
@@yara1896 no lmao Denali looked great, just not like Olivia. Olivia makeup looked like a 5 yr old did it.
@@JonnieMayer17 no offense but denali and rose could be mistaken for sisters w that makeup on
I think Asia won Breastworld for the classic "pageant queen can do comedy" storyline.
I agree but Monét and Cracker were the only other Queens worthy of winning the challenge. But I think the runway is what set it off bc Asia is the only one who did good in the challenge and had a solid runway
Nah ! Asía was everything in that challenge ! She really transform herself into another persona !
Aquaria might have tripped but she still gave a better show and her performance was more dynamic and entertaining.
true. She wasn't mopping the floor the whole time lol
Period! Like ok she fell a few times and was still light years better than Eureka. Honestly Eureka shouldn’t have even been there but ya know
Plus she knew the words, which was always Eureka's problem when she wasn't lipsyncing for her life. Call Me Mother was an... interesting watch given that Eureka was the only one on stage who didn't know the words and was blatantly flubbing them - same with a lot of Bang Bang.
Plus they didn't solely do it to justify a draw - Shea apparently also slipped on the rose petals during the s9 finale, and despite Sasha winning they edited it out and didn't show her losing her balance.
say it louder for the people in the back
Overall, I'm happy with the endgame, Aquaria did deserve to win imo and even now, today is using her platform doing amazing things for many different communities, BLM, LGBTQ+ rights and Trans lives etc., and is only 25 years old! I have absolutely nothing but respect for her. She's relatively unproblematic and a phenomenal voice for the drag community.
I was such a hardcore #TeamAsia person but after butterfly-gate I think Aquaria deserved it the most. Eureka got her rudemption, and proved she was a force to be reckoned with in S9, Asia ended up starring on Vegas Revue, and Kameron proved she is a fierce ass lipsyncer who deserved to be in the Top 4. Talented, all of them.
asia also host werq the world and drive n drag shes such a good host knows how to keep the crowd hyped
@@JuanitoEsBonito That's because Asia, before Drag Race, was one of the main cast at Station Four's Rose Room for YEARS and a pageant queen, she learned from the BEST on how to host a show. (Forever going to stan miss Layla LaRue.)
aquaria got help in the finale but eureka got help in the whole season, specially in the lip sync against kameron
Disagree. Have you ever tried doing a jump split and shimmying across the stage while sustaining that split? Have you ever done it after recovering from a serious knee injury and surgery with nearly a year long recovery process? Have you ever done it while being twice as big/heavy as your competitor? People don't give Eureka enough credit for how difficult that was and that she still did it.
@@troyyrob i wont give her credit for being big, thats saying she can be ok for being big. For me thats fatphobic.
And are you really saying that splits win lip syncs? say that to sahara davenport. Lip syncs are for pretending you are singing, giving emotions and kameron was way better at that in that one song.
I mean the final song was a three person song so I think regardless if aquaria did better or eureka they would have prob kept both, Since ppl really didn't like eureka if she ended up in a final 3 way lifsync it would have created more drama. And eureka kinda had a lot of excuses throughout the season, like you have a whole year to prepare and your "best drag" look is a sequence body suit really.
It’s my favorite drag race lipsync. I loved Eureka’s performance.
@@robinchen6171 they HAD to keep both because Asia royally fucked up her lip sync and they needed 3 to do the last one
Ohh buddy I can’t wait for the season 13 version of this. It’s been almost a week and I’m still angr-iana over that riggory.
the biggest robbery of s10 is monique not getting the first win (which she even called out in her confessional purrr) and monet's breastworld win i was literally dying so hard when she said "cockadoodle-do-me-daddy"
In the words of Detox:✨Riggormortis✨
WHO'S MORRIS?!
Alyssa actually said that
IT WAS RIGGA MORRIS, GIRL, RIGGA MORRIS
Um, it was Alyssa, not Detox. 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
this comment is equal parts iconic and embarrassing
Are you going to do the riggory in every season? Because if you are i'm here for it😆😆
Every season was kinda to extremely rigged
@@hannahzeplin2794 Facts! But still, it's a reality not a true competition
@@agustinrodriguez3514 That’s what I be telling people! It’s kinda annoying when people say “it wasn’t judged fairly” like it’s a show at the end of it all. It wasn’t judged unfairly on purpose. For years Queens have said the winner is chosen by episode 1 or before filming but they have to have a story and front runners and people who bring drama. It makes the show interesting rather then a fair competition that will eventually bore the viewers
@@JSG-gk2oz also like Pageants are judged very similarly so it’s not that crazy lol
@@JSG-gk2oz right! It's important for the show to find a balance of both. I think seasons 2, 3 (kinda), 4-6, 8+9 did that well
For the Sntachgame episode, Asia's look was one of the best of the night so it's totally justified that she didn't have to lipsync.
Wholeheartedly agree, her along with Aquaria, had a theme and a storyline for their runways which is why I stand by that she didn't deserve to lipsync for that alone. Both Monique and The Vixen's looks were just so weak unfortunately.
The fact we were getting the story was the reason I knew Blair was going home
I do think this finale was the best example of why the Lipsync for the Crown is an awful idea. I can't believe they still do the Lipsync for the Crown after this mess of a finale.
Imo Monique and Blair were consistently robbed, glad they got to go far on all stars (Blair would’ve won one or maybe even two challenges if the old rules were intact)
The new rules isn't what kept Blaire from winning any challenges lol unless I totally forgot how as5 worked, the girls didn't choose who won challenges.. Blaire was pretty underwhelming in as5 actually, I was expecting her to shine but she was fairly boring.
@@mimistardust3915 they’re saying that Blair would’ve been second a couple times and with the old rules that would’ve counted as a win
@@griffinoleary1053 Even then, I still think that all of the others in the top 5 would have beaten her overall. She just didn't wow that much imo. I felt like she still had room to grow, and she seemed simultaneously a bit too full of herself, while also still desperate for approval from the other queens.
I think she's still a very talented queen, but she just wasn't it on AS5.
@@BambiTrout no one is talking about her winning the season we’re talking about her winning a challenge or two not the whole crown
@@BambiTrout Yh obvi she wasn’t gonna win the whole thing but I’m saying she would’ve been in the top two for the girl group challenge and probably with mayhem in the hotel challenge since ru said their team was best. And her getting wins would probably help her confidence in the other challenges, I feel the same about Alexis winning the talent show and snatch game (juju probably wouldn’t be able to win since they chose 1 winner from each group in AS 4 and it’d probably be the same in as5)
Probably unpopular opinion: I think Aquaria did better than Eureka in the finale LipSync (the double shantay one), like, i know that they probably edited out Aquaria’s mistake etc, but at least she performs, and Eureka performance to me was just ruveal after ruveal and all the high kick/splits she always did 🤨
(i haven't gotten to the end of the video yet so excuse me if this has been said in the video but) i think regardless of who outperformed who in that lip sync it would've been a double shantay. if it wasn't, the final final lip sync would have absolutely no suspense since kameron was obviously not winning over either one of the two.
I was just commenting this! I hate the lip sync for the crown, and I’m sure most of the fandom do at this moment. Because of Sasha it’s become so much about who can have the biggest reveal and not about the “performance” of the song. Eureka’s performance, IMO, was all smoke and no fire when compared to Aquaria’s
@@couchpot1298 this is a great take, also taking into comsideration the final song is bang bang a trio
@@couchpot1298 i agree.
Also the song was perfect for 3 people, so.
And she didn’t know the words
I love these videos and just subscribed buuuut I do wish you would include more snapshots of runways, especially when you discuss balls. I don't remember what these girls wear after so many seasons and when you say "x looks better than z" and you show either neither of them or only 1 of the 2 it's hard for me to judge. Otherwise, love this!
... Symone was better at SG than Gottmik? That was actually the only win Gottmik had that I agreed with lol. Symone was funny too but not funnier than Gottmik imo (even if this opinion is kinda scary since I might be seen as biased toward a white queen).
This part 👆🏼
I don’t think that Symone deserved to win snatch game honestly. Sure, she did good, but Gottmik’s Paris was one of the best snatch games we’ve ever had, and completely deserved that win. Not to mention, Denali and Rosé both also deserved their high placements, as they did really great in snatch game, better than Symone, and both had good runways.
Symones runway was the best of the night wdym
@@lizzygrant2518 I mean that Denali and Rosé both did better than her in snatch game, not on the runway. Symone had an outstanding runway, but Denali and Rosé had good enough ones to keep their high placements
I would’ve swapped Rose for Symone in the top. I think Gottmik’s win was deserved, but Symone’s runway was miles ahead of Rose’s and their snatch games were roughly even
@@asteraguilar4886 Yeah, I guess so. It would make more sense for Rosé to go rather than Denali because she did great, so that could’ve happened.
I cant remember which queen who said it- it might've been a pit-stop- but just like mariah on as5 with her red paint performance, the judges dont like ranking political things like that beyond safe. if its low, its disrespectful; if its high, its political favoritism (in the eyes of the fans). Not saying that symone didnt have an amazing runway, but that its a common thing for looks like that to be placed safe as a precaution for the shows "reputation" or whatever. Its a stupid idea, but i think that's why she was safe.
even tho symone had a better runway, mik def deserved her win. mik’s parís was much much better than symone’s harriet tubman
Totally
I had to pause the video and say this piece that Gottmik 100% deserved the Snatch Game win, Symone started off strong but she faded away, while Gottmik nailed every delivery and i think the fact that she chose an iconic famous character from the industry which helped viewers get her act and jokes as well helped too, weeks after the snatch episode people still talked about Miks performance, I think Rose/Denali were on par with Symone if not better. So im sorry but youre biased here.
true true. Mik definitely won, and if she hadn’t I’m pretty sure Rosé or Denali would have won.
Blair was facing a DUI court (that’s also why there is no Watcha Packin Season 10 with her), that’s why I think there were getting rid of her so quickly.
could u explain? it sounds interesting lol
@@ewanxo As soon as getting eliminated Blair was supposed to face a court due to driving under influence of drugs. I can image that production knew about this, so Blair was given only a little amount of airtime in order for viewers not no connect with her too much. So as soon as she flopped (the DragCon challenge) production saw a good opportunity to justify getting her out of the competition without huge backlash.
That’s my assumption ;)
@@kev7600 thanks, it’s kinda confusing how show was back to all stars after all that tho
@@ewanxo Actually yes, I would have thought them to cancel Blair at all but they seem to have been willing to invite her back.
I remember a comment saying that they discovered that she was 13 so they had to send her packin xd
I love the visuals you add of the outfits! I have a terrible memory and it helps me a ton. :)
Aquaria is so fierce, the amount of talent and creatively she brings at such a young age is amazing.
Pharmarusical was one of the worst challenges ever. A musical about pills? Why?
I think all the queens realized that aquaria will win when she was interviewing (?) them before the finale. I mean, the favoritism far too much
At the end of the day, Aquaria did really deserve it tho. She’s been a great winner
She really is but it wasn't necessary. They have so many queens and they chose one of the contestants
@@freshavocado2482 I don't see the quote on quote favoritism though
@@freshavocado2482 Aquaria was the right choice though lmao She was showing so much versatility. Not only was she a fashion Queen but also showed that she can be funny and have a personality.
@jesus Is a homo I like her too. In the finale it was her or Asia and we all know what happened with Asia 🦋. I hate how they tried to do favoritsm with her because I feel she didn't need it
Kamron SLAYED every single lip sync!!!! PERIODT!!!!!
I was at the S11 Finale and I can confirm there is a biiiiig disconnect between reality and the final product. I was CRUSHED because we were convinced A'Keria had just sent home Yvie in the first round.... only for Yvie to win the lip sync....
OMG that’s what I thought watching at home too
do they lip sync to the whole song or just parts??
Really? Alot of other people eho were there said it was more clear Yvie won.
@@bombasticass2973 they lip sync to a “cut” of the song. so hypothetically if SOS is 3.5min, they’ll lipsync to 2.5min so they have 2min of footage for the show.
A’Keria’s lipsync looked pretty sloppy, u could see her try to flip off her wig for a reveal only for it to not work and her have to rip it off
I think some of the most blatant rigging in drag race history is Asia and Vixen. They should have been in the bottom two together four separate times and only were once. The first episode, bossy rossy, snatch game, and then the rusical. It’s just so weird how they were consistently the worst two but were saved from the bottom
Hold up hold up hold up, Symones snatch Game performance better than Gottmiks? Even with Symone being my top pick I have to say Gottmik was definitely funnier.
Ι will never forget how kameron had the best runway of the season with that horned feathery AWESOMENESS, and she didn't get a win that episode.
she was in the bottom for that episode she was so bad in the challenge.
I can't wait for you to do this was season 13. It has been so damn rigged, it's not even hiding it anymore with the Kandy and Denali thing.
Oh for sure. There’s always riggory, but Season 13 is awful at hiding it.
what thing?
Me doing schoolwork:
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Chile- been watching your vids for a long time now and your analysis and reasonings are so interesting, can’t wait for more!!
Kamerons the only queen to actually lip sync her way to the finale and she never once bragged about it or made it her excuse to not try in the challenges. Every season there’s a “if I have to lip sync my way to the crown I will” yet kamerons the only one who actually did it
It wasn’t that rigged Aquaria DESERVED the win
6:16 Symone deserved to be high that episode but Gottmik deserved winning was absolutely logical: She WAS the best in Snatch Game and her runway was the best as well if we ignore that Symone's look had a political message. Symone's look was polished and clean but outside of the political message, it was a safe runway - nothing outstanding considering that this was a fascinator challenge. So no, she didn't deserve to win but she was the second best that week followed by Rosé.
Seriously one of my favorite channels on UA-cam. Literally you vocalize every single theory I felt while watching these seasons, it's like so cathartic watching these vids lol Thank you for these!!
I can’t say Aquaria didn’t do well in the season, but I really thought Eureka deserved the win. She stumbled a bit, but she was so good in so many challenges and she was definitely the most polished big girl we’ve had on the show. I thought it was the big girl’s turn. Didn’t know she was unliked by the viewers.
I think another aspect to consider when it comes to Blair's elimination is the Roxxxy Andrews effect. Where Roxxxy also told a sad emotional story when she was in the bottom and then she was immediately saved from elimination in the double save. If they had done the same thing with blair it likely would have looked bad to have a similar thing of a queen telling they're deem traumatic story and then getting saved from elimination. That's not a pattern you want your audience to notice.
I think roxxxy wouldve still stayed as she did the first ever wig reveal in rpdr herstory
@@neroxyx3085 even still Rupaul wasn't going to eliminate someone after giving that "we are all family" speech
yeah but also Roxxxy won that lipsync while Blair didn’t
She didn't sprain her ankle. She tore her ACL.
Also, Monet went to my HS.
DO U all remember how they tried to sell Dusty as a fierce lipsync-er omg x.D she was just pretending to have withdrawals the whole way thru while Monet slayed her whole life.
Just to add - they tried to sell Dusty as a fierce lip-sync queen BUT Awhora (go find Awhora doing Applause/Bloody Mary) as someone with 0 capabilities to dance or lip-sync; watch that performance as well as any other performance she has uploaded -.-. Awhora WAS ROBBED!!!
@@neuberknight575 Even though Dusty is an awkward lip sync, her and Monets lip sync never fails to make me laugh
@@beans6765 because of Monet lol
For the finale of this season there are so many factors that went into it. Aquaria had the best track record and was definitely the most viable option to win. Learning that she tripped during her lip sync and Eureka won is kinda shocking, but the producers were never going to crown Eureka or Kameron because of the unwritten "bottom two more than once" rule. Asia, who was the only other option, was out the door as soon as the butterflies happened lol. great video per usual!
Kameron had no business being in the final 4 after the number of times in the bottom 2
season ten is my favorite season for the cast. the queens were all SO talented and the challenges didn’t really give them a chance to prove themselves.
So Really, Season 10 Is Season 7 2.0
Tbh, Asia deserved to be safe in the Snatch Game. Her look was so much better than Monique and Vixen's
Not disagreeing, but that's been an ongoing issue with the judging of the show... the runway counts as much as the judges/producers want it to count in challenges (except in runway only challenges).
@@dante6985 I feel like runways are kinda tie-breakers if you get me. Like Tops and Bottoms are decided on the challenge and then like if two people had evenly good performances ut one of them has clearly a better look, they win. For example, in my opinion, Denali's snatch game was a win worthy performance, but she had a clearly worse runway, while Gottmik had a great snatch game and look, thus winning.
Or in this case, everyone had bad performances, but one of them had a superior look to compared to the other two, thus saving them.
Your voice is literally the cutest. When you politely suggested subscribing, I felt like I was in the wrong by not having done so already.
If I was a producer I would’ve done an Alyssa vs Roxxxy with making the heartfelt story from Blair into a double shantay for her and Vixen; that and I would want to keep the high-placing queens in the competition since Blair was performing well.
That and it closes the double shantay for Kameron and Eureka but that’s hindsight.
my favorite thing about s10 was the monique-monet-asia interactions. they were giving!
problem with symones snatch game: SHE WAS PLAYING HERSELF! SHE WASN'T DOING HER CHARACTER! Miks snatch game was always in character and the look was on point and all the jokes landed.
In all fairness, NO ONE alive today knows how Harriet Tubman was as a person. Symone (although playing herself) used references to give Harriet a personality.
6:17 hell no, Symone was great in Snatch Game, she should have been in the top BUT Gottmik was just the best. imho she deserved that win 100%
I’m sorry but Symone’s snatch game was safe the house. But her runway. OMG. Amazing. Amazing. Stunning. The highest I would put her is high.
Asia was saved SO much this season
ugh thank god i found you and i don’t have to watch uckey lee anymore
Why? What's the tee on uckey?
hm i am intrigued
@@majorasiaa i think because he can be sort of annoying and aggressive sometimes soooo
@@Bai183 true lol
To think there's a timeline out there where the finale came down to Eureka and Kameron, and Kameron or Eureka or possibly both could've been crowned. haha
if you do one of these for s13 the first episode alone would be 2 hours
Its really weird how often a queen goes home after having a huge emotional moment in the same episode.
Blair this season.
Mercedes in season 11 after opening up about her feelings as a Muslim in America (she got sent home on a challenge about Trump which is a tough look, especially when she didnt even do bad)
Alyssa getting sent home on the anniversary of her mother's passing with her sister who had seen eachother for the first time since their mother's funeral.
Laganja gets eliminated after being basically humiliated in Untucked.
Monica Beverly Hillz comes out as trans on the main stage and is eliminated a few episodes later. The thing about this one is that the very next episode after she is eliminated has Chaz Bono heavily involved, and Im sure it would have been a great confidence boost for Monica to have a moment with him.
Loving this season 10 appreciation. Even though pretty much every episode after vixen's elimination was pretty bad it really made the queens memorable with all their storylines
Season 10 more subtle? Lmfao. Everyone knew Aquaria was going to win that season, from the beggining.
Also the rumours aren't that necessary since Eureka beat Aquaria's ass on that lip sync, whether she fell or not.
watching this and at the part discussing Symone/Gottmik in Snatch Game… in what universe did Symone have a better snatch game performance than Gottmik?😭😭
By the time S13 finishes in December, you’re gonna have a one hour long video with this topic.... 🍵
The most memorable thing about season 10 for me is how horribly painful the reunion episode was, with RuPaul gaslighting and devalidating The Vixen's experience and refusing to consider her perspective to pander to fragile white egos, and seeing Asia O'Hara clock what was going on, try to help, only to be shut down and brought to tears in the process. Asia essentially had to silence herself to stay in RuPaul's good graces. Sure, the vixen sparked conflict a couple times that may have been unnecessary, but that wasn't the case across the board, and that wasn't acknowledged. It was all poor hurt Eureka. Yeah that's something I can't watch again.
YES! I will never forgive them for how they villainized the Vixen. Like sure she go into it with people, but so have lots of beloved queens; it's the way the editing framed it tho that really did her wrong.
The reunion was awful, Ru straight up told her that sometimes u need to be quiet and take it. Like wtf!? That's terrible advice. But no one can tell Ru that, oh no, so the Vixen is the villain for wanting to stand up for herself. Ugh. After that reunion I went back and rewatched the season and it was so much clearer to me how the editing was biased and villainizing the Vixen
If we look at them all, dusty and kalorie were the only “filler” queens out of how ever many queens they had, like most of them are either successful or on all stars, wild... prolly best season when it comes to fan bases
Unpopular opinion but I actually didn't like Symone's snatch game as much. It's like she wanted to show and tell the character, but didn't really know anything else than she helped the slaves escape.
YAY I LOVE THESE VIDEOS!! i cant wait for the riggory of the other seasons and your other drag race content 🥰
in what world was symone's snatch game better than gottmik's? theyre 2 of my favorite queens but its giving performative
I love this video but I can't believe that most people think Eureka lost the Eureka vs Kameron lip sync. To me, Eureka sold the fuck out of that song.
Gottmik didnt just win snatch game cause she was “productions pick” lmfao tf. Her Paris Hilton was the BEST performance of the night coupled with an amazing runway that win was crystal clear. While Symone had the best runway of the night imo she did a serviceable job in snatch game. She didn’t perform better than Denali, Mikk, or Rosé in the challenge. A better comparison is the Madonna Rusical where Jan did the best and had the best runway but production gave the win to Gigi.
this video popped up on my UA-cam right as I was about to start doing the dishes so I’m SO HAPPY RIGHT NOW :D
aquaria is my favorite WINNER of all time. where most girls only excelled in one category, she had them all! she is a STAR! and monique was definitely looked over the entire season. she was top 4 (maybe top 3) material.
Also, your videos are SO GOOD. The type I wish I could live tweet as I watch! I can't wait for more!!
Honestly, even tho there was favoritism, this was one of the few seasons where it felt natural to me, the queens were smart and didn’t play obvious stupid storylines like Cracker VS Aquaria and Eureka did sell it this season, looking back, from the “Big girl reaches Top 4” storyline Eureka was the most deserving considering her accident in season 9, even the Kameron VS Eureka was a top tier lip sync, Kameron should have stayed over Eureka, but I wasn’t mad at Rufrack keeping both because they both sold it, it felt earned it felt worth it, compared to Kandy Vs Symone
Curiously, while watching the season, I liked Eureka and couldn't stand Aquaria. To this day I still think Eureka deserved to be the first big girl winner, she elevated the looks big girls with really big bodies brought into the competition in this season, and she did well throughout the competition. Idk it's always curious to me how production always finds a way to favor thin queens over big girls in finales and whatnot, somehow their performance seems to never be enohgh for them to consider giving them the crown. But oh well