The most important thing I could say: it’s okay to not like the perception of a certain queen based on what you saw in the show, but it’s never okay to actually send them hate and keep disliking them only based on this perception
Yeahhh I recently went back to season 4 and, now that I work in editing, my heart absolutely breaks for Jeremi. Gurl the things these editors do.... it's truly questionable morals here ladies and gents. Splicing people's sentences together to create actual lies is truly wrong. And it's what we sit here and happily consume.
@@geoffrygo i think alot of people forget that this is a reality show FIRST and then a competition, that is what reality tv does, splices clips and edits things out of proportion, its not fair i agree, but they 1) had to of said it fornit to be edited and 2) they know that theyre on a reality show and everything and anything can and will be used against them
Very important message that's relevant for pretty much every season. I don't think a lot of us realized, when getting into the show, how much the producers set up storylines for each queen and match it with confessionals so we'll feel this way, too. Not always of course, but they do try to give us a certain perception.
U did what u did, u said what u said. It’s not computer graphics, it was real, even if u staged smth. U had a choice not to do that. Words n actions, have consequences
If done right (Valentina), the delusional edit is not only hilarious but favorable for the said queen. If done wrong (Milk, Jan), it's a massive detriment to their career.
The only reason Valentina's delusion worked out on her favour was because EVERYONE KNEW she likes to play her delusional french vanilla fantasy so I think noone really thought Valentina was being serious about her delusions lol.
@@ev1802 I found Valentina to be annoying on both of her seasons. And her being in on the joke only makes my opinion sour even more. She's actually delusional, she has moments when she's very aware she's delusional and plays it up for the cameras, and does not care because it gets her the attention she wants. She's definitely one of the few queens who is actually probably true to her edit in real life. I don't get the hype around her at all. I would never send her hate though. In the very unlikely chance I would ever get to meet her, I just wouldn't fangirl over her like most people would. Her doing her thing hasn't affected me in any way except make me annoyed for the hours it took me to watch enough episodes to see her get eliminated.
it's stupid how people says "this season is boring" when everyone is playing nice BUT when a queen is making great TV moments everyone wants her to die! :/ it's really sad
I hate that, like drama can be fun but the thing fans should be the most excited for is the challenges and runways, like I would say 30% of the time, I just skip all of the workroom bullshit and move straight to the challenge because I don't "live for the drama"
I don't think that's always the case. España didn't really have too much drama. Just shadiness here and there. The queens were close towards the end. Yet it's been called one of the best drag race franchises.
The problem is Daya doesn't has the charisma to be a compelling “delusional” queen, it just come off as annoying, i don't condone that last part of your statement AT ALL tho
The whole Season 7 “young vs old” thing was so silly… Miss Fame was considered “young” and Ginger was “old”…. But they were both the same exact age (29) 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Jrjrjrjrjr689 that’s what THEY called it, but i think the division ultimately came from their styles of drag. Fame’s is definitely more modern and makes her appear younger.
You should do the "Ru's favorite/Born to do drag" edit, you know, the one they use when the judges applaud the bear minimum to THAT ONE QUEEN you know is going to make to the finale
yes absolutely!!! or if they don't make it to the final then Ru specifically calls it out when they get eliminated, such as Valentina's "i thought you would go all the way" or when she said to Bebe "you did what i thought was impossible: you outshined Ongina." basically anything where Ru all but says, "you are my favorite and i want you to win."
Alyssa never seems delusional about her abilities: she is a brilliant performer. And she doesn’t put another queen down to boost herself, so it’s never nasty. She’s just an eccentric enjoying her art.
I would love to see a video on the "too perfect" edit!! Queens like Divina De Campo, Chad Michaels, Rosé, and Brook Lynn Hytes who got constant critiques about being too perfect and not letting the judges see the "real them." It always seemed like a slightly bizarre edit to me and would be an interesting way to talk about Ru's thirst for trauma or vulnerability on the show.
Yes!! I honestly hate that edit. If the gal is happy, well-adjusted, and skilled, then let her be happy, well-adjusted, and skilled! It makes me so angry to think about how hard they must have worked to be as perfect as they are and have the judges (especially RuPaul) say all that hard work and mastery is actually bad.
It's the judges running out of BS excuses to favor whoever was pre-selected to win (that week or that whole season). The thirst for trauma is real, though! When the producers are mad at queens who don't play into the untucked/werkroom drama, they instruct the judges to ding those contestants for some minor thing; if there is no flaw to latch on to, *_then_* queens are told to stop being so perfect and to show their "real" selves. It definitely deserves its own video, although it's more riggory than edit. With a villain or delusional edit, events, actions, and dialogue will be manipulated to look completely different from how they happened to create a distorted narrative and make someone look bad. With the "too perfect" girls, we can still see things as they happened and we see when those queens are doing great, even though in the end they get overlooked or dismissed by the judges. Either way it's not just Ru, but the producers who are more concerned with ratings than actually picking the best drag superstar, but in their head it's about making "great TV."
Daya is getting an Awhora kind of storyline, where she is a bit delusional, a bit villainous, but she's also right and so talented that at the end everyone gets to love her.
Awhora has probably one of my all time favourite edits, i lived for her being petty, villainous and confident but at the same time not taking herself too seriously. I hope in the end people will love daya too
You're right! Daya isn't a villain at all unlike the other contestants she is honest, shr puts everything on the table she's not just hating people she gets upset and says whats on her mind (For example Angeria is usually nice but on one episode she said somthing shady about Daya and as soon as Daya came in the room she was nice and fake) And for example Willow which I like but it is clear that he plays mind games.
Max's delusional edit is such an interesting one, because up until her elimination episode she's basically tied with Ginger for frontrunner of the whole season, with two wins and not a single bottom placement. It's like production didn't expect her to be so good in the challenges that they had to weaponise the delusional edit against her in order to justify sending home someone who was killing it, but someone they didn't want to be killing it
Yea, also this season had so many acting challenges, she would have snatched another Win for sure. Idk why they did not see it for her - but they wanted to get her out asap after that second win. Also the one time she did not wear grey hair...
@@m00nrac00n the win was set up for Ginger to take. That's why there were so many acting challenges where she could excel at. Max was a direct threat to her because she was excellent at the exact same thing Ginger was. Jokes on them because Ginger didn't win and Max was just done dirty for no payoff.
I don’t understand why would they do him that way 😔 Overall his performances were solid, unique style and most important he was portrayed as a really nice and supportive person. Such a shame we won’t be able to see her in AS
What pisses me off is that even after 14 years, I STILL fall for the delusional/villain edits. The producers actually succeed in making me dislike some queens, the most recent one being Daya Betty. Although with Jan, the delusional edit was so obvious that it had the opposite effect, it made me root for her even more. The producers and judges were clearly gaslighting her. With that said, I would never, EVER send any queen hate. That's just disgusting, this fanbase really needs to grow up and realize that it's just a TV show and that the producers are only showing us what they want to.
I fell for it with Daya too, I mainly go off of their edits from how they act in the reunion. If they don't seem to show any regret for their actions in the reunion I don't think it was an edit. But still these "fans" are crazy.
I honestly think that Jan was gaslighted by the production pretty hard. Not being herself, being herself way too much, getting vague critics about "something missing" but not being told what exactly she could do about it, getting robbed, thinking that you're safe but then being thrown out.. I think the production really should pay for her therapy after all that.
Ok, but how do I channel Valentina Delusional Edit Energy into my actual life? Because I need that French Vanilla Fantasy to fortify me against intrusive thoughts.
I felt SEEN by this comment? girl! Intrusive thoughts really just pop up to ruin your day, create a mess, then peace out & leave you with the mess. Rude. Anyways, if you’re looking for some tips I gotchu, but if you were just sharing then ignore the essay below please! 😅 My therapist has helped me overcome some debilitating anxieties by living in ‘my fantasy’. The key is to not do it with important things in life, instead make small routines & rituals to fit the fantasy into your daily life. Day dreaming can be very maladaptive so be careful. Keep it realistic to your lifestyle & create the fantasy around you, not the other way around. It’s a slippery slope trying to live a ‘perfect’ life so make sure the fantasy doesn’t mess up your irl priorities. When you’re in your flesh suit reality you’re human, not flawed. The fantasy is unrealistic for a reason so the utopia you create shouldn’t make you feel worse about your real life, it should add a little spark of joy just for you. If it does negatively impact your life, stop & reconsider if it’s unhealthy or a sneaky intrusive thought undercover agent trying to sabotage your fantasy. Consider your fantasy an interlude from reality where you get to go to your personal theatre & perform. Infusing a little silly energy into your walk to work, making your coffee wearing whatever makes you feel fabulous, doing your makeup for the dolls at the post office, glueing old jewelry to shoes because Katya did that plus it was an opportunity to be grateful for hoarding shit. Usually I’d feel defeated & embarrassed about my inability to throw things away, but instead I was stoked I had all the supplies on deck to start my shoe project! Do anything that brings you joy/fulfilment/validation no matter how mundane or small. My intrusive thoughts are now downgraded from a respected advisor to Felicia the nosy neighbour. Just a little bit every day I’m living my fantasy instead of questioning my entire existence because I made my coffee in the ‘wrong’ order. Life’s so much more manageable in this ‘setting’. When I’m present in my body & focused on me, I don’t have time to interact with Felicia & her covert insults. I’m picking my eyeshadows for the day which is a crucial part in my fantasy world so that the resident starts her day with positive & productive energy. I’m nicer to me when I’m vibing & wearing blue shadow & peach everything else for the 100th time. This felt so silly at first but now I’ve got at least a novels worth of stories that got me through shit. Life’s barely real so be in your own movie or novel or opera, whatever makes you feel like you’re THE bitch you’re there to see killing it in her element. Embody protagonist energy so you serve for yourself & not the Felicia’s of the world. This kinda wacky plan worked for me because I was writing a story for a character but for other people a more grounded approach is what works for them. Only take what resonates & tailor it to you. Good luck! ** Uh… my therapist would haunt me for eternity if I didn’t clarify that these are just quick tips that worked for me in managing intrusive thoughts, they are not a prescribed treatment plan & in no way do I mean to minimize the work it takes to manage or treat a mental disorder by trivializing it or making it seem like it’s something you can just ‘check out of’ or ‘escape’. Please talk to a mental health care provider to find an actual treatment plan for your unique needs if you think that’s necessary. I’m just a random drag race viewer with intrusive thoughts saying shit on the internet & unfortunately that means I’m not a health care provider or mental health expert. Always make sure to take care of yourself & seek out professional help if possible.
I've not been watching S14 but from all the discussions and reviews I've seen the producers are trying to make her look delusional to make their decisions look better lol
I will never understand the people who go online to send nasty hate comments to the queens. You say you’re a “fan of the show” but then go online to spread hate to the queens you don’t like and have only ever seen on tv, it’s just so shocking to me. And they always say stuff like “you’re a horrible person” etc when the reality is that they’re being a nasty horrible person spreading hate to people like that. Like it’s a tv show… a REALITY tv show! It’s not that deep
One hundred percent! This all day every day!!!! Also? We are watching a competition show! It’s a game! These queens re making the game better and eminently watchable.
Yeah! And sure, there are queens I don't vibe with on or off the show, but that's fine. I just don't bring those thoughts to their social media, and instead I give focus on the queens I enjoy and give them positivity. Costs nothing to just leave the ones you don't like alone!
Tbh. I watch the show because of the challenges and because I wanna get to know the drag queens. If I don’t like a drag queen I just leave it be and think to myself that the competition could have taken a toll on her
I think Utica has definitely the delusional edit by the end of her season. Her last line, right after getting eliminated because of her bad roast, is : "I think I may have a future in roasting".
and i totally believe that it was because she tried to go for Rus outfit and that he didnt like it, or somethkn happened that se didnt see but Rucsuddenly hated her and she never even liked that much either
Daya is delusional about how good her runways are. She is NOT delusional about Jasmine wrapping a rag around herself and getting away with it because she's skinny, and she's NOT delusional to say Jorgeous did not deserve that win.
Oddly enough, with both Jan and Daya the delusional edit didn't affect me because I can see where they're coming from. Like Jan's "you're being too much" like that doesn't tell her anything about what to do and we WERE so excited to see her again! And Daya is just calling out productions bullshit and I agree with a lot of what she was mad about 😂
I think that Cheryl was really good at tackling the Laganja edit. When she was called out for her fake persona she basically admitted to it and said "we are all different when we are in drag and this is exciting for me so it's easy for me to take it up a notch without realizing"
but there's a difference between putting on a persona (BenDeLaCreme), overproducing oneself unsuccessfully (like Alexis), and doing both while *_also_* trying to have a sad moment based on false pretenses that can be easily disproven with just math (like Laganja - WHO WE LOVE NOW THO). I haven't seen the UK drag races but I agree that it's smart to just admit it a and be real. Beyond edits, that's what charismatic people do in real life too.
right?? like maybe she's a bit intense about it and sometimes maybe a bit more mean than she needs to be, but she's just saying the stuff most of us say/think.
what she said about jorgeous and jasmine was 100% correct. i think due to her constant complaints and intensity people are overlooking what her point is.
You know, regarding BRITA on here: I have to say, she's made quite a transformation outside of the show since the edit she's gotten on here. Apparently with all the negative reception she got, it took a major toll on her mental health, to where she took a break from social media for a while. And ever since, she's done a lot for uplifting the drag community during this pandemic, as well as being politically active (she even has a podcast and such about it now). I've had the chance to talk to BRITA a few times since the show, and my respect for her has grown considerably. She's one of those I actually wouldn't mind seeing come back on All-Stars at some point, because I could see her getting a kind of Ra'Jah O'Hara edit from AS6. Like we could see the growth and maturity she's gained since being on the show, and she could be depicted in a more positive light as a result. I mean, reception to Ra'Jah took a complete 180 from Season 11 to All-Stars, I could see the same happening for BRITA. Though, I hope they don't time it to have Aiden back on to try to repeat that storyline. Let BRITA shine on her own merits if she comes back.
I would absolutely love if Brita came back for a "redemption" arc. She absolutely did not deserve the treatment that she got and her actual talent in drag was completely overshadowed.
The Delusional Edit has three outcomes. 1. You're delusional and we stan (Valentina) 2. You're delusional and we hate it (Milk) 3. You're delusional and it's annoying (Alexis Michelle) None of these outcomes are the Queens' fault. The producers know what they're doing.
I mean, Alexis was trying to produce herself, which is something that this channel also talks about, and it backfired. She doesn't deserve to be getting hate and death threats (no one does), but it's not *_not_* her actions that brought a certain perception on herself. Of course, the show's producers need to take responsibility for how they affect the safety of the queens, but we also need to recognize when someone was right the whole time, like Thorgy or Daya Betty, vs when someone was trying to play games and it kinda went to poop.
I just finished as6 and I honestly feel bad for Jan. I really wanted for her to come back, but they gave it to silky. Like, that lipsync? She had a FIRE under her ass and really wanted to be there. I did love her more despite some of the riggory
agreed. it’s the same as how Joslyn Fox on s6 was fucked over by everyone for getting the “ditzy” edit, despite Adore getting a positive “i’m an airhead but rock n roll” edit on the SAME season
i’d love to see a video on the “born to do drag” edit tbh, especially given how it’s happened two seasons in a row lmao. it’s really interesting to me how that edit can either go really well, or horribly horribly wrong
who got that edit besides Jorgeous? btw I get why they did it with Jorgeous; tbh it's exciting to see a good lipsync assassin. People can root for other queens because of better fashion or humor or whatever, and that's totally valid, but nothing in the show (runways, acting challenges, etc.) lives on in the collective conscious as much as epic lipsync battles do.
@@DragDetective I don't like it if they push so much for it like with Daya who genuinely does good in the challenges and was made safe for many weeks just to fuck with her and make her seem delusional. I think it's more fun if they actually act delusional like Milk.
@@melindamuller4466 It's not pushing the edit. It's more so used as a way for them to build up the Queen for either sinking or swimming. Milk and Daya Are Good for those examples. Milk had confidence and was trying TOO hard that eventually got her in the bottom and sent home. Daya was safe and trying hard and even did something we never seen which was ask the judges right to their face what they want before she won a challenge and was in the top two and it can be used to make her blossom into a frontrunner. Daya having tension with Jasmine is good as she gets MORE screentime which finally breaks Daya away from Crystal as Crystal is a sweetheart
@@melindamuller4466 I hate that the villain never wins but someone from the old era of VH1 reality TV even said that if you wanna play the villain it comes at the cost of losing but in return you get saved alot because they need a villain (which the fandom needs to understand and quit complaining about) and you get more screentime and call backs for future projects. It is a win win because the show is meant for exposure and if it means being a villain and losing at the cost of more screentime then why not
Miz Cracker as the delusional edit for AS5? Blair St. Clair is right there....she was always claiming she had "grown up" and that "the queens saw her as a huge threat"....she was the CLEAR delusional queen of the season lol
I would love to see the history of the “filler” queen. What does that actually mean? Is this a fan appointed title or a production one? Who was the first Queen to be referred to as a filler queen by another queen? Also Joey jay lol That sort of thing :)
Whatever the producers are trying to sell me with Daya Betty’s edit isn’t working, I love her more and more every episode. It’s so frustrating to go on twitter after an episode to see what people are saying and only seeing hate for her and people saying they can’t wait for her to go home, even though she’s slaying in my opinion
It’s the fact almost every episode is her complaining about something, yes the edit is to blame but she also decided to complain about being safe etc and it gets tiring to watch
I know, seeing her name trending and seeing everyone hating on her and saying she didn't deserve to do well is so upsetting . Hope she continues to prove them wrong
The older queens on season 7 even called themselves the Bitter Old Lady Brigade… so I think they honestly were a bit bitter in reality, but I’m sure production capitalized on it as much as they possibly could to make it look like a caricature of what it was. It’s never an excuse, however, for anyone to send hate to any queens on the show. Totally agree. Your videos are so good! Keep popping off, king!
Honestly I kinda love Valentina's delusion edit. This is the kinda energy I want in my life, totally fine with myself and unbothered by the opinions of others.
I always felt bad for Brita and thought it was so obvious she was struggling with the pressure of the competition out there. It must've been hard for her to realize she's not living up to her reputation back at home as much as she wanted to. The problem wasn't Aiden, it could've been any queen that seemed to get favored. I liked both so it was even harder to watch.
I think with Brita, a lot of it is honestly cause of Sherry Pie. Apparently they had a huge Sherry vs Gigi storyline that got axed cause of…yeah lol so they had pushed that storyline with Brita and Aiden more
i'm 60 seconds into the video and seeing the comments toward daya just make me beyond confused- production is trying to give her both the delusional edit and the villain edit at the same time, but alot of the stuff she's saying is the truth- especially her comments about skinny privilege, and the judges eating up everything a skinny girl serves, even if she's serving a fantasy that isn't there. production is trying so hard to make her look like a villain when she's just speaking her truth, and a lot of people agree, including myself
seriouslyyyyyy lmfao!!!!! the guy saying 'tv doesn't lie'. how are we this many seasons in and people are that clueless still about how heavily produced this franchise is/has been?!?! insane!
That’s sort of how the world works too. When somebody speaks bluntly about the truth that nobody else is talking about, it’s easy for that person to look delusional or whacko.
@@andrewlocke6103 they’re not the right kind of skinny, that’s the point of their comment. Adore would be considered skinny on season 6 but they were criticized for not cinching her waist and wearing a corset while Courtney never had to.
Milk deleted her account? I loved her content! Skating, growing awareness, crazy and hot aesthetics...what a shame! Wasn't aware she was receiving heat :(
It will never cease to amaze me that people preach kindness and acceptance, then turn on that dime and bully someone into deleting social media……or worse. Diabolical!!! 🤯
This is so funny because literally all of these girls were my favorites from their season. I adore Laganja, Max, Thorgy, Valentina, Jan, Aja and Daya. They bring so much fun to the season! It would be so boring without them
When you said "Milk deleted her instagram just this week" I thought you were lying. I literally was on it looking at her and living for her drag just last week. When I got the "sorry" message I just about punched my wall fuck this.
This is how I found out too and I am genuinely upset. Out of all of the queens I follow she used her platform for the most good the most frequently ON TOP of giving us unique and creative looks. I seriously hate this fandom sometimes......
I think production saw how the fandom reacted to Milk's edit on As3 and realised it gave them lots of views and lots of angry people on twitter so they continued with it. People really need to do more research on queens outside of drag race because one edit doesn't define them as a whole and it annoys me how many death threats and stuff queens get for no reason.
Shannel was the absolute queen of season 1 for me; yeah she was bitchy, but she knew what her worth was and she had all the right to call the judges out on their bullshit, she was totally robbed. And it was so obvious that they kept her for so long in the competition because she sold, but ultimately they weren't going to let her win.
Do the ingenue/rough queen/adopted-by-Ru edit next. We're seeing it with Jorgeous now. I think Shangela is the original. Others could include Adore Delano, ChiChi DeVayne, Olivia Lux, and Yvie Oddly.
I think the key to avoiding getting a negative delusional edit is to avoid comparing yourself to other queens (the way Shannel, Milk, and Daya did). Valentina was exceptionally delusional, yes, but it's endearing because we can all relate to "living the fantasy" in order to get through some disappointing or traumatic experiences. I feel like Tammie Brown really set the groundwork for this archetype, and every drag queen should be taking notes and realizing that focusing on being the best version of yourself (whether you win or not) is the best way to compete.
She had the "egging on" Delusional Edit of production telling her "Yasss, do MORE, the fans will LOVE it." and then editing her to come across as way too much and annoying. Like, looking back at the cast reveal everyone was living for Silky before the Season dropped, she had that Fan Favorite Stamp already and then everything went up in flames.
I hate how the producers make the villans and the delusional queens. I mean if someone is like that on their own then go ahead, show it, but don’t destroy anyone’s life and career. I feel so bad for all of them, especially the bullied queens…
In regards to Daya on here: while I kinda see your points on getting the delusional edit, I'd argue she's getting more of a villain edit than just a delusional one. Yea, she puts others down and gets frustrated at times where it seems like she's been doing well. On the other end, though, few positive things, if any, are ever said about her apart from these last 2 episodes where she did well. Most of the confessionals about her pertain to how nasty she comes off and the fights she picks with everyone (especially Jasmine), constant eye-rolling and shade rattles with whatever she says and does. Plus, even in things like the reading challenge, something where a lot of the comments are meant to be shown as more playful and razzing, Daya is portrayed as taking this stuff seriously and is legitimately offended by it (namely in the moment where it's her turn and she calls Jasmine's read about her being two-faced out). And unlike someone like Bianca Del Rio, where it seems she's kind of in the right for some of the shady and snarky things she says, here it's portrayed like she's upset and we're supposed to dislike her for it. So while I can see what you were saying regarding a tightrope act between a delusional edit and a villain edit, I'd argue Daya's edit almost leans more towards villain than delusional. That said, you're right, we shouldn't attack people like this online, especially since everyone is more multi-faceted than we think. I've gotten a Cameo from Daya before, and she was very sweet and to-the-point in what she had to say. And I guess we'll see where else the season takes her.
I don't know if theres enough for a whole video but I would love to see one about the "social media queen" like miss fame, kimchi, aja, ariel and plastique, etc. where the show tells us how big of a following they are but they get critiqued for being "just a look"
We're out here, in 2022, on the 14th season of the oldest series of Drag Race, and people are still attacking queens based on edits. I think it's one of the ugliest things of the fandom. If anything, we should see the queens playing characters on RPDR that are loosely based on themselves. I wish that half of the people who send death threats/hate to their DMs should stop and just browse their twitter or Instagram or whatever. They'll realize they're human.
A queen that I think was edited as delusional was definitely Mimi Imfurst (In S3, not AS1.) She wasn't on the show for very long, but in that time she was definitely portrayed as being crazy and delusional. ESPECIALLY in that outer space themed acting challenge. Idk, just someone I was thinking about. Love your videos!
I really live for Daya Betty, I think it’s weird that she was passed over early on in the season… many safe placements should’ve been high for her! Also Lady Camden, it’s so obvious they were planning on chopping her somewhere mid season, but now the audience sees her as a front runner after she finally gets high placements that she could’ve been getting this whole time
daya isn't my favorite queen but most of her "delusional" moments are her saying things that are just true and it's really annoying. she's not delusional for calling out unfair judging and getting emotional about it, and i think she should be allowed to say it without getting a bad edit because she's RIGHT
No one was more delusional than Silky nutmeg ganache on her first season. That’s what made her so unlikable, at that time. “My personality cannot be topped”? She was completely delusional and unaware that every other queen had a more likeable personality on that season.
I find Miss Cracker’s edit so interesting. I remember being in the minority of people who wanted her to win back when AS5 was airing. I think part of that was that I could see Shea winning from a mile away and my natural reaction is to root for an underdog when I notice clear winners (yes I am often disappointed: justice for Divina, Bimini, Ella, Rosé, Janey and Pythia). But I also really related to Cracker in some ways. The edit leaned into her awkwardness over her fights, and as a neurodivergent person I found her situations all too familiar. Seeming like she didn’t mean what she said and not being able to diffuse tension despite wanting to, all of that is very relatable to me. I wonder how much of that was really what was happening for Cracker and how much was editing magic. It makes me feel kinda icky thinking that this neurodivergent-coded portrayal that felt so real to me wasn’t real in the slightest. (Note: the queens I listed above were my faves but I think a lot of the queens were very deserving! I don’t dislike the winners, in fact I knew that most of my faves had no real chance to beat them, more that I had other picks in mind.)
I personally feel like Silky was delusional. every time somebody mentioned something she did wrong she was in the confessional saying she was perfect and everyone is wrong including rupaul and the judges who made comments about thinks she needed to fix and she didn’t fix them. she never seemed that great to me, almost every challenge she didn’t seem to be up to par with the others but was talking like she was the shit and even in the finale she seemed to not be taking it that seriously or like half assing it with her looks…plus she was being ableist to not only yvie but shitju because of their sprained ankle/eds and tendinitis so she was just causing a lot of drama everywhere for no reason
This! I watched season 11 recently and I definitely thought that Silky's edit was more delusional then villainous. But Im glad she redeemed herself on Canada vs the world
Daya has had one of the weirdest edits I've ever seen. She was eliminated, then she came back and started her delusional edit, then she kinda has a villain edit where she kept going after Jasmine, and now she's just seen as this mischievous shit-stirrer, but in a way that isn't perceived as malicious, just adding a bit of spice. Maybe it's because season 14 is so long, but it seems like they have no idea who they really want to be the antagonist this season. We've seen so many queens take on that role so far: Alyssa, Kornbread for a little bit, Jasmine, DeJa for that one untucked, Daya, and now Bosco. Daya for sure had the longest one, but all of these queens got hate for their portrayal in at least one episode. And we're not even to the end of the season yet.
daya is just saying what everyone is thinking, i do think her delivery & tone can be off sometimes but i’m loving her this season recently queens have been careful with what they’ve been saying but i love that daya is just speaking her mind
Ahahahaha not the producers thinking they can give Daya the "delusional edit" and we're gonna eat it up ahahahah bo sis Daya slays and made several points. Lol I'm biased I love her.
I agree with all of these but Laganja. She is nice NOW but she was acting very offensively to black people with that "personality". A lot of white gay men/people tend to act like stereotypes of black women for attention or comedy. It's unfair to us BW to just ignore that behavior because of mental illness and all.
You have THE best timing. I am SO glad you made the is video right now because I think Daya Betty is unfairly and unfortunately getting a lot of grief online-which I don’t understand because Daya Betty is playing a STELLAR game of Drag Race so far and that’s exactly what we wanna see! I wish people could appreciate Daya’s game even if they don’t appreciate her aesthetic.
I just know I would get this edit if I were ever on the show. Some people’s personalities totally flip when they get competitive, I get really bad tunnel vision when there’s something on the line, plus I’m a theatre kid and production hates those. Daya is serving wrestling heel realness this season and I love her for it.
This was fantastically put together! When you spoke about Milk being dehumanised due to being shrunk down to simply one trait and that one trait being negative which makes it easy for people to attack her can be applied to so much and was put into words so well! Mama, kudos for saying that. For teaching! 👏🏻
Great video! Interesting and insightful analysis as usual. I’m terms of an edit I’d like to see, maybe the edit of the loveable weirdo? Katya, Jinkx, et al? Common traits could include offbeat humour, self deprecation masking insecurities, being underestimated?
It's kind of amazing how RPDR fans as well as judges demand everyone be 'real' and yet nobody can handle the truth let alone realness when they get it.
I think what's crazy about Brita's edit is how much I hated her until when she gets eliminated and says thank you for everything, this is a dream come true. All of a sudden my heart warmed and I felt bad for her. In that moment she made sense.
Laganja probably could have come off as more sympathetic if she went with being maybe not entirely secure as herself and going full tragedy mirror how she covers her insecurity with being extra energetic.
And realistically there's probably even a space for a massive difference in how you act out of drag vs in drag. Like I think people could understand Laganja the queen having these extraordinary affectations while the person out of drag is way more lowkey. Maybe that switch just flipped for the cameras out of drag by the same vibe.
The thing with Daya Betty for me is that she isn't unrealistic about the people she's called out. Like when they tried to make her seem ridiculous for Jorgeous winning I was like YES. One of the most undeserving wins EVER. Angeria should have won. Jorgeous was a low/safe.
Max is the one that upsets me most, because there's a step up in malicious intent between merely picking n choosing clips of filmed footage to create a delusional edit, and deliberately orchestrating an on set moment to trap someone into a delusional edit. There's not a chance Ru asked her to sing for any other reason than production knew they could use it to make her look nuts.
right!! they even had other queens film confessionals where they commented about how weird max’s singing was, so that production could make max seem even more crazy and sell the story of that the edit is how the actual moment hapened
I think Milk honestly went in with the same attitude in all stars as queens like Trixie and Alaska did, the only difference is she didn’t do well in the completion. Both Trixie and Alaska had complete meltdowns when they did bad one time, can you imagine if they weren’t doing good from the get go? I’m sure they would have had a similar if not more severe reaction. When the real world hypes you up so much and it doesn’t translate to this competition show format, it can be devastating.
The most important thing I could say: it’s okay to not like the perception of a certain queen based on what you saw in the show, but it’s never okay to actually send them hate and keep disliking them only based on this perception
Yeahhh I recently went back to season 4 and, now that I work in editing, my heart absolutely breaks for Jeremi. Gurl the things these editors do.... it's truly questionable morals here ladies and gents. Splicing people's sentences together to create actual lies is truly wrong. And it's what we sit here and happily consume.
@@geoffrygo i think alot of people forget that this is a reality show FIRST and then a competition, that is what reality tv does, splices clips and edits things out of proportion, its not fair i agree, but they 1) had to of said it fornit to be edited and 2) they know that theyre on a reality show and everything and anything can and will be used against them
Right! In the words of Kennedy Davenport; if it ain't your cup of tea, don't drink it! ☕️
Very important message that's relevant for pretty much every season. I don't think a lot of us realized, when getting into the show, how much the producers set up storylines for each queen and match it with confessionals so we'll feel this way, too. Not always of course, but they do try to give us a certain perception.
U did what u did, u said what u said. It’s not computer graphics, it was real, even if u staged smth. U had a choice not to do that. Words n actions, have consequences
If done right (Valentina), the delusional edit is not only hilarious but favorable for the said queen. If done wrong (Milk, Jan), it's a massive detriment to their career.
The only reason Valentina's delusion worked out on her favour was because EVERYONE KNEW she likes to play her delusional french vanilla fantasy so I think noone really thought Valentina was being serious about her delusions lol.
Valentina was IN ON the joke. She played it up. Milk claims to have been in on the joke but her execution lacked
I actually found Valentina to be very annoying on AS
@@tatjy93 I doubt that's true with Milk. I saw shades of it in season 6.
@@ev1802 I found Valentina to be annoying on both of her seasons. And her being in on the joke only makes my opinion sour even more. She's actually delusional, she has moments when she's very aware she's delusional and plays it up for the cameras, and does not care because it gets her the attention she wants. She's definitely one of the few queens who is actually probably true to her edit in real life. I don't get the hype around her at all.
I would never send her hate though. In the very unlikely chance I would ever get to meet her, I just wouldn't fangirl over her like most people would. Her doing her thing hasn't affected me in any way except make me annoyed for the hours it took me to watch enough episodes to see her get eliminated.
it's stupid how people says "this season is boring" when everyone is playing nice BUT when a queen is making great TV moments everyone wants her to die! :/ it's really sad
I hate that, like drama can be fun but the thing fans should be the most excited for is the challenges and runways, like I would say 30% of the time, I just skip all of the workroom bullshit and move straight to the challenge because I don't "live for the drama"
I don't think that's always the case. España didn't really have too much drama. Just shadiness here and there. The queens were close towards the end. Yet it's been called one of the best drag race franchises.
That being said though, don't send nasty shit to the queens.
it’s because that harassment is their idea of fun
The problem is Daya doesn't has the charisma to be a compelling “delusional” queen, it just come off as annoying, i don't condone that last part of your statement AT ALL tho
The whole Season 7 “young vs old” thing was so silly… Miss Fame was considered “young” and Ginger was “old”…. But they were both the same exact age (29) 😂😂😂😂😂
I think it was more old vs new style drag and those who had been doing it longer rather than actual age
@@summerhunny they literally called themselves “the old lady brigade”… but okay
@@Jrjrjrjrjr689 that’s what THEY called it, but i think the division ultimately came from their styles of drag. Fame’s is definitely more modern and makes her appear younger.
Also ginger just looks way older too... Lol
Really? Miss Fame looked in her 20s, but ginger looked 40??
You should do the "Ru's favorite/Born to do drag" edit, you know, the one they use when the judges applaud the bear minimum to THAT ONE QUEEN you know is going to make to the finale
yes absolutely!!! or if they don't make it to the final then Ru specifically calls it out when they get eliminated, such as Valentina's "i thought you would go all the way" or when she said to Bebe "you did what i thought was impossible: you outshined Ongina." basically anything where Ru all but says, "you are my favorite and i want you to win."
To contrast with this, there's a Queen that does amazing and gets the "Yeah, but You aren't that great", so You know she's not going to win.
The worst part is, they don't need it, we can see they are great drag queens and most would've made it to the finale anyway.
Thiiiiis! Great idea!!
I feel like this overlaps with the ingenue edit, the girl that "shows growth" throughout the season, the way Adore and Pearl both got.
Alyssa edwards definitely had a delusional edit but in a positive way. Alyssa is one like valentina who lives in her fantasy and that is iconic.
Alyssa never seems delusional about her abilities: she is a brilliant performer. And she doesn’t put another queen down to boost herself, so it’s never nasty.
She’s just an eccentric enjoying her art.
shannel is the og delusional diva even though she was right about her being criminally overlooked
Jan’s delusional edit almost felt spiteful on the producers’ end. Like they were trying to put her in her place, but it was just hard to watch.
I would love to see a video on the "too perfect" edit!! Queens like Divina De Campo, Chad Michaels, Rosé, and Brook Lynn Hytes who got constant critiques about being too perfect and not letting the judges see the "real them." It always seemed like a slightly bizarre edit to me and would be an interesting way to talk about Ru's thirst for trauma or vulnerability on the show.
Yes!! I honestly hate that edit. If the gal is happy, well-adjusted, and skilled, then let her be happy, well-adjusted, and skilled! It makes me so angry to think about how hard they must have worked to be as perfect as they are and have the judges (especially RuPaul) say all that hard work and mastery is actually bad.
Rose did not get the perfect edit she was unremarkable on the show
@@LeSeulGarcon if thats how you perceived her sure lol but theres a reason shes a fan favorite of the season
It's the judges running out of BS excuses to favor whoever was pre-selected to win (that week or that whole season). The thirst for trauma is real, though! When the producers are mad at queens who don't play into the untucked/werkroom drama, they instruct the judges to ding those contestants for some minor thing; if there is no flaw to latch on to, *_then_* queens are told to stop being so perfect and to show their "real" selves.
It definitely deserves its own video, although it's more riggory than edit. With a villain or delusional edit, events, actions, and dialogue will be manipulated to look completely different from how they happened to create a distorted narrative and make someone look bad. With the "too perfect" girls, we can still see things as they happened and we see when those queens are doing great, even though in the end they get overlooked or dismissed by the judges.
Either way it's not just Ru, but the producers who are more concerned with ratings than actually picking the best drag superstar, but in their head it's about making "great TV."
@@LeSeulGarconshe was the only one with symone who was remarkable on that top 4
Daya is getting an Awhora kind of storyline, where she is a bit delusional, a bit villainous, but she's also right and so talented that at the end everyone gets to love her.
Daya is so right about everything she says and people who believe she's mean and annoying are wrong.
Awhora has probably one of my all time favourite edits, i lived for her being petty, villainous and confident but at the same time not taking herself too seriously. I hope in the end people will love daya too
So very much this. I love Daya
You're right! Daya isn't a villain at all
unlike the other contestants she is honest, shr puts everything on the table
she's not just hating people she gets upset and says whats on her mind
(For example Angeria is usually nice but on one episode she said somthing shady about Daya and as soon as Daya came in the room she was nice and fake)
And for example Willow which I like but it is clear that he plays mind games.
@@JENIA_SH if anything I see a lot of personality parallels with Daya and Yvie
I can’t wrap my head around how casually death threats are being thrown around…like for what? It’s disgusting
Right!? It is possible to dislike someone and not want them to die
Max's delusional edit is such an interesting one, because up until her elimination episode she's basically tied with Ginger for frontrunner of the whole season, with two wins and not a single bottom placement. It's like production didn't expect her to be so good in the challenges that they had to weaponise the delusional edit against her in order to justify sending home someone who was killing it, but someone they didn't want to be killing it
Probably cause of her Snatch Game?
Yea, also this season had so many acting challenges, she would have snatched another Win for sure. Idk why they did not see it for her - but they wanted to get her out asap after that second win. Also the one time she did not wear grey hair...
@@m00nrac00n the win was set up for Ginger to take. That's why there were so many acting challenges where she could excel at. Max was a direct threat to her because she was excellent at the exact same thing Ginger was.
Jokes on them because Ginger didn't win and Max was just done dirty for no payoff.
I don’t understand why would they do him that way 😔
Overall his performances were solid, unique style and most important he was portrayed as a really nice and supportive person.
Such a shame we won’t be able to see her in AS
diiiiilo. @@francocervasio9800
What pisses me off is that even after 14 years, I STILL fall for the delusional/villain edits. The producers actually succeed in making me dislike some queens, the most recent one being Daya Betty. Although with Jan, the delusional edit was so obvious that it had the opposite effect, it made me root for her even more. The producers and judges were clearly gaslighting her. With that said, I would never, EVER send any queen hate. That's just disgusting, this fanbase really needs to grow up and realize that it's just a TV show and that the producers are only showing us what they want to.
Jan was edited delusionally? I literally didn’t even get that impression, she always just came off excited and positive.
for me when it comes to daya i almost fell for it but there were moments that didn't really add up
I fell for it with Daya too, I mainly go off of their edits from how they act in the reunion. If they don't seem to show any regret for their actions in the reunion I don't think it was an edit. But still these "fans" are crazy.
I honestly think that Jan was gaslighted by the production pretty hard. Not being herself, being herself way too much, getting vague critics about "something missing" but not being told what exactly she could do about it, getting robbed, thinking that you're safe but then being thrown out.. I think the production really should pay for her therapy after all that.
Ok, but how do I channel Valentina Delusional Edit Energy into my actual life? Because I need that French Vanilla Fantasy to fortify me against intrusive thoughts.
That part!!
Shes just so wrapped up in her own beauty lol that she feels she can do no wrong
I felt SEEN by this comment? girl! Intrusive thoughts really just pop up to ruin your day, create a mess, then peace out & leave you with the mess. Rude. Anyways, if you’re looking for some tips I gotchu, but if you were just sharing then ignore the essay below please! 😅
My therapist has helped me overcome some debilitating anxieties by living in ‘my fantasy’. The key is to not do it with important things in life, instead make small routines & rituals to fit the fantasy into your daily life. Day dreaming can be very maladaptive so be careful. Keep it realistic to your lifestyle & create the fantasy around you, not the other way around. It’s a slippery slope trying to live a ‘perfect’ life so make sure the fantasy doesn’t mess up your irl priorities. When you’re in your flesh suit reality you’re human, not flawed. The fantasy is unrealistic for a reason so the utopia you create shouldn’t make you feel worse about your real life, it should add a little spark of joy just for you. If it does negatively impact your life, stop & reconsider if it’s unhealthy or a sneaky intrusive thought undercover agent trying to sabotage your fantasy. Consider your fantasy an interlude from reality where you get to go to your personal theatre & perform. Infusing a little silly energy into your walk to work, making your coffee wearing whatever makes you feel fabulous, doing your makeup for the dolls at the post office, glueing old jewelry to shoes because Katya did that plus it was an opportunity to be grateful for hoarding shit. Usually I’d feel defeated & embarrassed about my inability to throw things away, but instead I was stoked I had all the supplies on deck to start my shoe project!
Do anything that brings you joy/fulfilment/validation no matter how mundane or small. My intrusive thoughts are now downgraded from a respected advisor to Felicia the nosy neighbour. Just a little bit every day I’m living my fantasy instead of questioning my entire existence because I made my coffee in the ‘wrong’ order. Life’s so much more manageable in this ‘setting’. When I’m present in my body & focused on me, I don’t have time to interact with Felicia & her covert insults. I’m picking my eyeshadows for the day which is a crucial part in my fantasy world so that the resident starts her day with positive & productive energy. I’m nicer to me when I’m vibing & wearing blue shadow & peach everything else for the 100th time.
This felt so silly at first but now I’ve got at least a novels worth of stories that got me through shit. Life’s barely real so be in your own movie or novel or opera, whatever makes you feel like you’re THE bitch you’re there to see killing it in her element. Embody protagonist energy so you serve for yourself & not the Felicia’s of the world. This kinda wacky plan worked for me because I was writing a story for a character but for other people a more grounded approach is what works for them. Only take what resonates & tailor it to you. Good luck!
** Uh… my therapist would haunt me for eternity if I didn’t clarify that these are just quick tips that worked for me in managing intrusive thoughts, they are not a prescribed treatment plan & in no way do I mean to minimize the work it takes to manage or treat a mental disorder by trivializing it or making it seem like it’s something you can just ‘check out of’ or ‘escape’. Please talk to a mental health care provider to find an actual treatment plan for your unique needs if you think that’s necessary. I’m just a random drag race viewer with intrusive thoughts saying shit on the internet & unfortunately that means I’m not a health care provider or mental health expert. Always make sure to take care of yourself & seek out professional help if possible.
I also think Scarlet Envy fits into the delusional edit category, similar to Valentina's angle
I think with Scarlet, she was presented as delusional but the fans didn't see that
Everybody and their mother knows Valentina is delusional
The thing about daya Betty. She isn’t even delusional, I detect NO lies with anything she’s said
Agreed! She deserved to win the sewing challenge imo
I've not been watching S14 but from all the discussions and reviews I've seen the producers are trying to make her look delusional to make their decisions look better lol
Literally! She just calls out bad judging and then everyone acts like shes wrong
@@starcharter most of the time the queens act like everything the judges say is correct. Even tho the judging is absolute bullshit
She literally talked about skinny queens being able to wear basically nothing and the judges would eat them up and she WAS RIGHT
I will never understand the people who go online to send nasty hate comments to the queens. You say you’re a “fan of the show” but then go online to spread hate to the queens you don’t like and have only ever seen on tv, it’s just so shocking to me. And they always say stuff like “you’re a horrible person” etc when the reality is that they’re being a nasty horrible person spreading hate to people like that. Like it’s a tv show… a REALITY tv show! It’s not that deep
One hundred percent! This all day every day!!!! Also? We are watching a competition show! It’s a game! These queens re making the game better and eminently watchable.
Yeah! And sure, there are queens I don't vibe with on or off the show, but that's fine. I just don't bring those thoughts to their social media, and instead I give focus on the queens I enjoy and give them positivity. Costs nothing to just leave the ones you don't like alone!
Totally. I don't even understand how people find the time to be so pressed about a TV show. It's pathological!
Some fans need to be reminded of that immortal saying, "There's people that are dying," but unironically. 😁
Tbh. I watch the show because of the challenges and because I wanna get to know the drag queens. If I don’t like a drag queen I just leave it be and think to myself that the competition could have taken a toll on her
Anybody else feeling like this video came a year early??? Season 15 seems like THE season of DELUSION
oh good im not the only one- bc I got so tired of hearing half the queens tell me "IM LEGENDARY! IM ICONIC"
I think Utica has definitely the delusional edit by the end of her season. Her last line, right after getting eliminated because of her bad roast, is : "I think I may have a future in roasting".
Wow you're absolutely right. Utica couldve easily had an "amazing fashion queen" edit if they wanted but they decided to go with delusional
and i totally believe that it was because she tried to go for Rus outfit and that he didnt like it, or somethkn happened that se didnt see but Rucsuddenly hated her and she never even liked that much either
They absolutely HATED her in the last third of her run, it was quit obvious. They really portrayed her as an uncomfortable person.
Daya is delusional about how good her runways are. She is NOT delusional about Jasmine wrapping a rag around herself and getting away with it because she's skinny, and she's NOT delusional to say Jorgeous did not deserve that win.
Oddly enough, with both Jan and Daya the delusional edit didn't affect me because I can see where they're coming from. Like Jan's "you're being too much" like that doesn't tell her anything about what to do and we WERE so excited to see her again! And Daya is just calling out productions bullshit and I agree with a lot of what she was mad about 😂
Also the 'critiques' for Jan were always telling her to do one thing and then the other in AS6 which really pissed me off.
I think that Cheryl was really good at tackling the Laganja edit. When she was called out for her fake persona she basically admitted to it and said "we are all different when we are in drag and this is exciting for me so it's easy for me to take it up a notch without realizing"
love her answer ♡
but there's a difference between putting on a persona (BenDeLaCreme), overproducing oneself unsuccessfully (like Alexis), and doing both while *_also_* trying to have a sad moment based on false pretenses that can be easily disproven with just math (like Laganja - WHO WE LOVE NOW THO).
I haven't seen the UK drag races but I agree that it's smart to just admit it a and be real. Beyond edits, that's what charismatic people do in real life too.
i'm honestly enjoying Daya because yes, her edit may be delusional-ish, but she's not wrong.
Exactly my thought. At first she wasn't that exciting but now I am liking her, specially on this last episode
right?? like maybe she's a bit intense about it and sometimes maybe a bit more mean than she needs to be, but she's just saying the stuff most of us say/think.
It’s very much like if I was her I probably wouldn’t speak on it, but since she is… she is correct. Can’t argue there
She isn’t totally correct either
what she said about jorgeous and jasmine was 100% correct. i think due to her constant complaints and intensity people are overlooking what her point is.
You know, regarding BRITA on here: I have to say, she's made quite a transformation outside of the show since the edit she's gotten on here. Apparently with all the negative reception she got, it took a major toll on her mental health, to where she took a break from social media for a while. And ever since, she's done a lot for uplifting the drag community during this pandemic, as well as being politically active (she even has a podcast and such about it now). I've had the chance to talk to BRITA a few times since the show, and my respect for her has grown considerably. She's one of those I actually wouldn't mind seeing come back on All-Stars at some point, because I could see her getting a kind of Ra'Jah O'Hara edit from AS6. Like we could see the growth and maturity she's gained since being on the show, and she could be depicted in a more positive light as a result. I mean, reception to Ra'Jah took a complete 180 from Season 11 to All-Stars, I could see the same happening for BRITA. Though, I hope they don't time it to have Aiden back on to try to repeat that storyline. Let BRITA shine on her own merits if she comes back.
I would absolutely love if Brita came back for a "redemption" arc. She absolutely did not deserve the treatment that she got and her actual talent in drag was completely overshadowed.
I honestly thought she'd go further. I would like her back but worry she'll get the same unnecessary vitriol.
If they do bring Aiden back at the same time, I could see it become more of a Coco/Alyssa deal on All Stars 2, where they've made up in the interim.
Was a huge Brita fan and hope she comes back. Drag "fans" are just the worst.
THANK YOU for this comment. Brita is amazing and I am still shocked and appalled at how the “fans” treated her.
They did Max so dirty. She is one of my faves, love her drag aesthetic.
Jan in general makes more sense when you realize that her drag mother is Alexis Michelle.
Oh god
The Delusional Edit has three outcomes.
1. You're delusional and we stan (Valentina)
2. You're delusional and we hate it (Milk)
3. You're delusional and it's annoying (Alexis Michelle)
None of these outcomes are the Queens' fault. The producers know what they're doing.
Valentina was just so in love with herself and truth was she is beautiful. So we stan
I mean, Alexis was trying to produce herself, which is something that this channel also talks about, and it backfired. She doesn't deserve to be getting hate and death threats (no one does), but it's not *_not_* her actions that brought a certain perception on herself.
Of course, the show's producers need to take responsibility for how they affect the safety of the queens, but we also need to recognize when someone was right the whole time, like Thorgy or Daya Betty, vs when someone was trying to play games and it kinda went to poop.
I would add 4. You're actually not delusional (Shannel, Daya)
Jan’s edit on All Stars 6 was BRUTAL. It makes me so sad how the online community turned on her so badly.
Oh no I haven't seen it! I thought everyone was referring to s12... I love Jan, she don't deserve a bad edit
I just finished as6 and I honestly feel bad for Jan. I really wanted for her to come back, but they gave it to silky. Like, that lipsync? She had a FIRE under her ass and really wanted to be there. I did love her more despite some of the riggory
agreed. it’s the same as how Joslyn Fox on s6 was fucked over by everyone for getting the “ditzy” edit, despite Adore getting a positive “i’m an airhead but rock n roll” edit on the SAME season
i’d love to see a video on the “born to do drag” edit tbh, especially given how it’s happened two seasons in a row lmao. it’s really interesting to me how that edit can either go really well, or horribly horribly wrong
I love it when they have a clear favorite but something happens and the production can't crown them
who got that edit besides Jorgeous?
btw I get why they did it with Jorgeous; tbh it's exciting to see a good lipsync assassin. People can root for other queens because of better fashion or humor or whatever, and that's totally valid, but nothing in the show (runways, acting challenges, etc.) lives on in the collective conscious as much as epic lipsync battles do.
I don't have a real reason, but I love the delusional edit. It's charming for some reason. I guess I just enjoy the confidence.
oh i LIVE for it! do not live for the hate that the queens get from it tho
@@DragDetective I don't like it if they push so much for it like with Daya who genuinely does good in the challenges and was made safe for many weeks just to fuck with her and make her seem delusional. I think it's more fun if they actually act delusional like Milk.
@@melindamuller4466 It's not pushing the edit. It's more so used as a way for them to build up the Queen for either sinking or swimming. Milk and Daya Are Good for those examples. Milk had confidence and was trying TOO hard that eventually got her in the bottom and sent home. Daya was safe and trying hard and even did something we never seen which was ask the judges right to their face what they want before she won a challenge and was in the top two and it can be used to make her blossom into a frontrunner. Daya having tension with Jasmine is good as she gets MORE screentime which finally breaks Daya away from Crystal as Crystal is a sweetheart
@@josesena6416 Yeah, but in the end it also pushes her away from possibly winning as they can't have the villain win.
@@melindamuller4466 I hate that the villain never wins but someone from the old era of VH1 reality TV even said that if you wanna play the villain it comes at the cost of losing but in return you get saved alot because they need a villain (which the fandom needs to understand and quit complaining about) and you get more screentime and call backs for future projects. It is a win win because the show is meant for exposure and if it means being a villain and losing at the cost of more screentime then why not
Agh, the doors Shannel has opened...
I was actually in full support of Shannel when she left like that. I thought she was standing up for herself and knowing her worth
In the great words of the legendary Jinxy Monsoony,
Delusion, convince yourself
I would bet money that Jan is gonna be on this list
"america doesn't want me to go home"
That's a safe bet
@@DragDetective yeah, I definitely made the SAFE choice
@@DragDetective I caaaant help but think that the queens sent me home bc they see me as a threat 😭😂
I think Jasmine was going to get the delusional edit, but her coming out in untucked gave production a more compelling storyline
The season 7 Old vs Young queens is especially funny considering the fact that Ginger and Ms Fame are actually the same age
Miz Cracker as the delusional edit for AS5? Blair St. Clair is right there....she was always claiming she had "grown up" and that "the queens saw her as a huge threat"....she was the CLEAR delusional queen of the season lol
The fact that this video got suggested to me just a couple of days after Loosey's elimination 😂
I would love to see the history of the “filler” queen. What does that actually mean? Is this a fan appointed title or a production one? Who was the first Queen to be referred to as a filler queen by another queen? Also Joey jay lol That sort of thing :)
They paint Daya out to be bitter and a villain when she’s just saying what the audience is thinking…
Some of the audience*
Yeah, Drag Race audience is very bitter very villain.
Look at you, projecting.
They also gave her the narrator role after Kornbread was out, and I think it was a great choice for that very reason!
Whatever the producers are trying to sell me with Daya Betty’s edit isn’t working, I love her more and more every episode. It’s so frustrating to go on twitter after an episode to see what people are saying and only seeing hate for her and people saying they can’t wait for her to go home, even though she’s slaying in my opinion
It’s the fact almost every episode is her complaining about something, yes the edit is to blame but she also decided to complain about being safe etc and it gets tiring to watch
I think Deya is playing it up a little for the cameras to stay around longer but the edits is taking it to the extreme.
I know, seeing her name trending and seeing everyone hating on her and saying she didn't deserve to do well is so upsetting . Hope she continues to prove them wrong
@@zakikin6006 consider that hearing droves of fans hating might also get tiring to hear lmao.
The older queens on season 7 even called themselves the Bitter Old Lady Brigade… so I think they honestly were a bit bitter in reality, but I’m sure production capitalized on it as much as they possibly could to make it look like a caricature of what it was. It’s never an excuse, however, for anyone to send hate to any queens on the show. Totally agree. Your videos are so good! Keep popping off, king!
Milk's edit had the benefit of Kennedy's confessionals. Absolute GOLD.
Honestly I kinda love Valentina's delusion edit. This is the kinda energy I want in my life, totally fine with myself and unbothered by the opinions of others.
I always felt bad for Brita and thought it was so obvious she was struggling with the pressure of the competition out there. It must've been hard for her to realize she's not living up to her reputation back at home as much as she wanted to. The problem wasn't Aiden, it could've been any queen that seemed to get favored. I liked both so it was even harder to watch.
I think with Brita, a lot of it is honestly cause of Sherry Pie. Apparently they had a huge Sherry vs Gigi storyline that got axed cause of…yeah lol so they had pushed that storyline with Brita and Aiden more
i'm 60 seconds into the video and seeing the comments toward daya just make me beyond confused- production is trying to give her both the delusional edit and the villain edit at the same time, but alot of the stuff she's saying is the truth- especially her comments about skinny privilege, and the judges eating up everything a skinny girl serves, even if she's serving a fantasy that isn't there. production is trying so hard to make her look like a villain when she's just speaking her truth, and a lot of people agree, including myself
They always portray anyone who calls out the judging or rigging badly tbh, like they did with Rajah on S11 and Thorgy in AS3 :/
seriouslyyyyyy lmfao!!!!! the guy saying 'tv doesn't lie'. how are we this many seasons in and people are that clueless still about how heavily produced this franchise is/has been?!?! insane!
That’s sort of how the world works too. When somebody speaks bluntly about the truth that nobody else is talking about, it’s easy for that person to look delusional or whacko.
DAYA IS LITERALLY A TALL SKINNY WHITE MAN
@@andrewlocke6103 they’re not the right kind of skinny, that’s the point of their comment. Adore would be considered skinny on season 6 but they were criticized for not cinching her waist and wearing a corset while Courtney never had to.
I'd have put Darianne Lake here. Not a fully fleged delusional edit but few moments here and there. Rusical and rap challenge episodes for example.
I loved the rap challenge episode. It’s so hilarious
0:40 “TV doesn’t lie”
Now that guy is actually delusional
Milk deleted her account? I loved her content! Skating, growing awareness, crazy and hot aesthetics...what a shame! Wasn't aware she was receiving heat :(
I really thought that she had finally been able to move on past all of this. Maybe I should've looked at her comments more or...Idk
It will never cease to amaze me that people preach kindness and acceptance, then turn on that dime and bully someone into deleting social media……or worse. Diabolical!!! 🤯
I tried drinking game with Brita "i am from new york" and I got drunk in first 3 episodes
time to add loosey to the mix
This is so funny because literally all of these girls were my favorites from their season. I adore Laganja, Max, Thorgy, Valentina, Jan, Aja and Daya. They bring so much fun to the season! It would be so boring without them
When you said "Milk deleted her instagram just this week" I thought you were lying. I literally was on it looking at her and living for her drag just last week. When I got the "sorry" message I just about punched my wall fuck this.
So sad. I always loved Milk.
This is how I found out too and I am genuinely upset. Out of all of the queens I follow she used her platform for the most good the most frequently ON TOP of giving us unique and creative looks. I seriously hate this fandom sometimes......
She's back on Instagram but only has some new posts
I think production saw how the fandom reacted to Milk's edit on As3 and realised it gave them lots of views and lots of angry people on twitter so they continued with it. People really need to do more research on queens outside of drag race because one edit doesn't define them as a whole and it annoys me how many death threats and stuff queens get for no reason.
Shannel was the absolute queen of season 1 for me; yeah she was bitchy, but she knew what her worth was and she had all the right to call the judges out on their bullshit, she was totally robbed. And it was so obvious that they kept her for so long in the competition because she sold, but ultimately they weren't going to let her win.
The invisible/aka the Kandy ho edit could be an interesting one, where certain queens get essentially no screentime.
Do the ingenue/rough queen/adopted-by-Ru edit next. We're seeing it with Jorgeous now. I think Shangela is the original. Others could include Adore Delano, ChiChi DeVayne, Olivia Lux, and Yvie Oddly.
I think the key to avoiding getting a negative delusional edit is to avoid comparing yourself to other queens (the way Shannel, Milk, and Daya did). Valentina was exceptionally delusional, yes, but it's endearing because we can all relate to "living the fantasy" in order to get through some disappointing or traumatic experiences. I feel like Tammie Brown really set the groundwork for this archetype, and every drag queen should be taking notes and realizing that focusing on being the best version of yourself (whether you win or not) is the best way to compete.
Silky on season 11 is, in my opinion, the biggest victim of the delusional edit
She had the "egging on" Delusional Edit of production telling her "Yasss, do MORE, the fans will LOVE it." and then editing her to come across as way too much and annoying. Like, looking back at the cast reveal everyone was living for Silky before the Season dropped, she had that Fan Favorite Stamp already and then everything went up in flames.
She definitely definitely redeemed herself in Canada vs The World
I hate how the producers make the villans and the delusional queens. I mean if someone is like that on their own then go ahead, show it, but don’t destroy anyone’s life and career. I feel so bad for all of them, especially the bullied queens…
In regards to Daya on here: while I kinda see your points on getting the delusional edit, I'd argue she's getting more of a villain edit than just a delusional one. Yea, she puts others down and gets frustrated at times where it seems like she's been doing well. On the other end, though, few positive things, if any, are ever said about her apart from these last 2 episodes where she did well. Most of the confessionals about her pertain to how nasty she comes off and the fights she picks with everyone (especially Jasmine), constant eye-rolling and shade rattles with whatever she says and does. Plus, even in things like the reading challenge, something where a lot of the comments are meant to be shown as more playful and razzing, Daya is portrayed as taking this stuff seriously and is legitimately offended by it (namely in the moment where it's her turn and she calls Jasmine's read about her being two-faced out). And unlike someone like Bianca Del Rio, where it seems she's kind of in the right for some of the shady and snarky things she says, here it's portrayed like she's upset and we're supposed to dislike her for it. So while I can see what you were saying regarding a tightrope act between a delusional edit and a villain edit, I'd argue Daya's edit almost leans more towards villain than delusional. That said, you're right, we shouldn't attack people like this online, especially since everyone is more multi-faceted than we think. I've gotten a Cameo from Daya before, and she was very sweet and to-the-point in what she had to say. And I guess we'll see where else the season takes her.
She's kind of getting a Tyra Sanchez edit it almost reads. But with less positive feedback from the judges.
I don't know if theres enough for a whole video but I would love to see one about the "social media queen" like miss fame, kimchi, aja, ariel and plastique, etc. where the show tells us how big of a following they are but they get critiqued for being "just a look"
Valentina on All Stars 4 is so iconic and I don't think it's appreciated enough. Honestly All Stars 4 is a great season overall
We're out here, in 2022, on the 14th season of the oldest series of Drag Race, and people are still attacking queens based on edits. I think it's one of the ugliest things of the fandom. If anything, we should see the queens playing characters on RPDR that are loosely based on themselves. I wish that half of the people who send death threats/hate to their DMs should stop and just browse their twitter or Instagram or whatever. They'll realize they're human.
I didn't know Milk deleted her IG, I feel so bad for her
A queen that I think was edited as delusional was definitely Mimi Imfurst (In S3, not AS1.) She wasn't on the show for very long, but in that time she was definitely portrayed as being crazy and delusional. ESPECIALLY in that outer space themed acting challenge. Idk, just someone I was thinking about. Love your videos!
I really live for Daya Betty, I think it’s weird that she was passed over early on in the season… many safe placements should’ve been high for her! Also Lady Camden, it’s so obvious they were planning on chopping her somewhere mid season, but now the audience sees her as a front runner after she finally gets high placements that she could’ve been getting this whole time
the fact that the delusion edit on daya just simply doesn’t work on me maybe cause i’m delusional with her and i agree with so many things she says
daya isn't my favorite queen but most of her "delusional" moments are her saying things that are just true and it's really annoying. she's not delusional for calling out unfair judging and getting emotional about it, and i think she should be allowed to say it without getting a bad edit because she's RIGHT
No one was more delusional than Silky nutmeg ganache on her first season. That’s what made her so unlikable, at that time. “My personality cannot be topped”? She was completely delusional and unaware that every other queen had a more likeable personality on that season.
I find Miss Cracker’s edit so interesting. I remember being in the minority of people who wanted her to win back when AS5 was airing. I think part of that was that I could see Shea winning from a mile away and my natural reaction is to root for an underdog when I notice clear winners (yes I am often disappointed: justice for Divina, Bimini, Ella, Rosé, Janey and Pythia). But I also really related to Cracker in some ways. The edit leaned into her awkwardness over her fights, and as a neurodivergent person I found her situations all too familiar. Seeming like she didn’t mean what she said and not being able to diffuse tension despite wanting to, all of that is very relatable to me. I wonder how much of that was really what was happening for Cracker and how much was editing magic. It makes me feel kinda icky thinking that this neurodivergent-coded portrayal that felt so real to me wasn’t real in the slightest.
(Note: the queens I listed above were my faves but I think a lot of the queens were very deserving! I don’t dislike the winners, in fact I knew that most of my faves had no real chance to beat them, more that I had other picks in mind.)
I personally feel like Silky was delusional. every time somebody mentioned something she did wrong she was in the confessional saying she was perfect and everyone is wrong including rupaul and the judges who made comments about thinks she needed to fix and she didn’t fix them. she never seemed that great to me, almost every challenge she didn’t seem to be up to par with the others but was talking like she was the shit and even in the finale she seemed to not be taking it that seriously or like half assing it with her looks…plus she was being ableist to not only yvie but shitju because of their sprained ankle/eds and tendinitis so she was just causing a lot of drama everywhere for no reason
This! I watched season 11 recently and I definitely thought that Silky's edit was more delusional then villainous. But Im glad she redeemed herself on Canada vs the world
Daya has had one of the weirdest edits I've ever seen. She was eliminated, then she came back and started her delusional edit, then she kinda has a villain edit where she kept going after Jasmine, and now she's just seen as this mischievous shit-stirrer, but in a way that isn't perceived as malicious, just adding a bit of spice. Maybe it's because season 14 is so long, but it seems like they have no idea who they really want to be the antagonist this season. We've seen so many queens take on that role so far: Alyssa, Kornbread for a little bit, Jasmine, DeJa for that one untucked, Daya, and now Bosco. Daya for sure had the longest one, but all of these queens got hate for their portrayal in at least one episode. And we're not even to the end of the season yet.
daya is just saying what everyone is thinking, i do think her delivery & tone can be off sometimes but i’m loving her this season recently queens have been careful with what they’ve been saying but i love that daya is just speaking her mind
EXACTLY if they were gonna put an edit on her they could’ve at least put an edit on her when she’s being wrong not when she’s being right 😂
Ahahahaha not the producers thinking they can give Daya the "delusional edit" and we're gonna eat it up ahahahah bo sis Daya slays and made several points. Lol I'm biased I love her.
Next season I want a queen who just trolls the entire season. They don't care if they win as long as they mess with peoples heads a la tammie brown
I think we have kind of a troll queen in the recent UK vs the world, but not in the way you said 😂
I agree with all of these but Laganja. She is nice NOW but she was acting very offensively to black people with that "personality". A lot of white gay men/people tend to act like stereotypes of black women for attention or comedy. It's unfair to us BW to just ignore that behavior because of mental illness and all.
You should cover the winner edit .😉
Valentina leaned into her reputation and it was perfect
You have THE best timing. I am SO glad you made the is video right now because I think Daya Betty is unfairly and unfortunately getting a lot of grief online-which I don’t understand because Daya Betty is playing a STELLAR game of Drag Race so far and that’s exactly what we wanna see! I wish people could appreciate Daya’s game even if they don’t appreciate her aesthetic.
Exactly!!!! I never really fall for the delusional/villain edits on drag race because I'm not stupid, but Daya doesn't deserve all the hate.
The weird outsider trope/edit
I don't think you can be a drag queen without being delusional lmao
I just know I would get this edit if I were ever on the show. Some people’s personalities totally flip when they get competitive, I get really bad tunnel vision when there’s something on the line, plus I’m a theatre kid and production hates those.
Daya is serving wrestling heel realness this season and I love her for it.
Can’t wait for you to update this with loosey lol
This was fantastically put together! When you spoke about Milk being dehumanised due to being shrunk down to simply one trait and that one trait being negative which makes it easy for people to attack her can be applied to so much and was put into words so well! Mama, kudos for saying that. For teaching! 👏🏻
Great video! Interesting and insightful analysis as usual.
I’m terms of an edit I’d like to see, maybe the edit of the loveable weirdo? Katya, Jinkx, et al? Common traits could include offbeat humour, self deprecation masking insecurities, being underestimated?
not one of the tweet saying TV doesn't lie 💀 mama now THAT'S delusion 💀
I love Daya Betty, idk why grown ass men are the ones sending hate Daya, that's sad of them, then they forget that everything is television 😵😵
The death threats are so crazy. Love to all the queens who put themselves out there.
It's kind of amazing how RPDR fans as well as judges demand everyone be 'real' and yet nobody can handle the truth let alone realness when they get it.
I think what's crazy about Brita's edit is how much I hated her until when she gets eliminated and says thank you for everything, this is a dream come true. All of a sudden my heart warmed and I felt bad for her. In that moment she made sense.
“TV doesn’t lie”
IN WHAT FUCKING WORLD?!?
Okay but the description of the delusional edit is just every drag queen ever😭😭💀
Laganja probably could have come off as more sympathetic if she went with being maybe not entirely secure as herself and going full tragedy mirror how she covers her insecurity with being extra energetic.
And realistically there's probably even a space for a massive difference in how you act out of drag vs in drag. Like I think people could understand Laganja the queen having these extraordinary affectations while the person out of drag is way more lowkey. Maybe that switch just flipped for the cameras out of drag by the same vibe.
The thing with Daya Betty for me is that she isn't unrealistic about the people she's called out. Like when they tried to make her seem ridiculous for Jorgeous winning I was like YES. One of the most undeserving wins EVER. Angeria should have won. Jorgeous was a low/safe.
Max is the one that upsets me most, because there's a step up in malicious intent between merely picking n choosing clips of filmed footage to create a delusional edit, and deliberately orchestrating an on set moment to trap someone into a delusional edit. There's not a chance Ru asked her to sing for any other reason than production knew they could use it to make her look nuts.
right!! they even had other queens film confessionals where they commented about how weird max’s singing was, so that production could make max seem even more crazy and sell the story of that the edit is how the actual moment hapened
I think Milk honestly went in with the same attitude in all stars as queens like Trixie and Alaska did, the only difference is she didn’t do well in the completion. Both Trixie and Alaska had complete meltdowns when they did bad one time, can you imagine if they weren’t doing good from the get go? I’m sure they would have had a similar if not more severe reaction. When the real world hypes you up so much and it doesn’t translate to this competition show format, it can be devastating.