'It's a bit vague...quite wishy-washy' | King's Speech analysed | LBC
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- King Charles has delivered his first Labour King's Speech and has revealed the party's agenda for the next 12 months.
The address - the first Speech from the Throne under a Labour government since 2009 - contains a whopping 35 Bills and draft Bills.
There has been a particular emphasis on improving transport, driving growth, creating jobs and accelerating the building of houses and infrastructure.
However, some have criticised the lack of bills related to health and the NHS.
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To understand the kings speech you need to read the accompanying biefing note which outlines all the bills and what they hope to achieve. The kings speech itself never goes into any detail.
Thank you👏👏👏👏
Its ok the King will help with the cost of the money for growth.
The King doesn’t write the Kings speech, that’s the government’s job, it’s just called the King’s speech, also name 1 Republic without poverty or cost of living crisis?
@Pat ...totally lacking any vision for the future...insipid.
@@leekelly9639No one said he did.
Aren't Labour introducing legislation to permit the Crown to borrow at tax payers expense for investment/'works'?
Every government speech is vague, responsibility is for those not in power!
sounds like someone doesn't understand what the purpose of a King's Speech is for.. who has time to give a super detailed rundown of every legislative point they intend on implementing within 5 years in just a 15-minute speech???
This analysis also seems 'quite wishy washy' to me. James has his strengths and weaknesses. He was certainly very 'on it' when it came to brexit, but he's not totally 'on it' when it comes to all issues. Natasha Clark makes me nervous. There was a time when Keunnsberg was a young careerist on the rise...and I feat that she may end up like Keunnsberg over time. She seems to morph commercially to whoever she's talking with on LBC...and she cut her teeth working for the Sun. The takeaway from this for me is 'does the UK really need a king?'
Oh dear, falling out of love already with the multi - millionaire illiberal liberal that is only ever Lord Haw - Haw Of Chiswick now that Globalist & WEF Stooge Sir Kneel occupies Number 10
All of that analysis of LBC commentators just to proclaim anti monarchy?
@@KevinHorrox He's also fallen out of love with the multi - millionaire illiberal liberal that is only ever Lord Haw - Haw of Chiswick.....
@@KevinHorroxwhat you expect from
Starmer’s barber.
Short answer you have one who isn't going anywhere go to work.
Did you know only 13% of the voting public saw tax as the top priority. Yet the media covered it more than all other topics, this stagnant economy will be the fault of the media with it's obsession with not taxing the wealthy or assets. The NHS was 50% of voters top priority and was barely talked about, because you would have to objectively state that labour the last time in government were not just better on the NHS they were miles ahead. And in a "unbiased" media landscape rather than a truthful one, this is what you end up with.
Edit : The percentage for voter priorities is from a Yougov top issues poll and the media bias study is from Loughborough University. The person claiming they found no reference to it in the comments, obviously didn't look in the first place.
You're assuming this Labour (sic) will be the same as the one in charge then.
It would be interesting to know the circumstances of that 13%. Ie do they represent those on the wealthy end of the scale?
@@Krypt000n it might be the study it was pretty comprehensive a break down of it can be found on the Different Bias youtube channel
@@Krypt000nI can't find a single reference to this 13% , hard to find out or its a lie cba to keep looking
Who does the media serve?
It's not _vague,_ it's essentially a list. And each one in that list has then to be carefully constructed in somewhat legalistic language, amended, reported and ping-ponged back and forth between the two Houses before becoming an Act. Did you expect that a final polished version of each Bill was going to be detailed in a (relatively) short speech? Where have you been for the last few monarch's speeches?
I think we’re all traumatised by years of performance art politics and theatrics still 😂
Where have YOU been for the past 5 years? Starmer doesn't have an honest bone in his body. Google his U-turns if you want to see what he does with explicit promises. If you think he's going to do any better with vague gestures towards 'growth' then you are in for a shock. The era of performance politics is far from over.
It is so vague it's laughable, even if the Keir Starmer cheerleaders wont admit it.
@@marty1459 considering that we've just ended an era where the conservatives just kept coming up with random brand names for ever increasingly empty policy platforms this speech actually felt substantial.
@@RBTVNHow is adjustment of policy before you are in government a contribution to performance politics? Have you ever run a Shadow Cabinet? Do you really think that these adjustments have not been thought through and calculated?
They have implemented what was in their manifesto, fancy that a party doing what they said they would do but apparently its wishy washy lol
No one voted for the Manifesto. It was an anti-Tory Election.
No one voted for the Manifesto.
Apart from everything they’ve backtracked on and will carry on backtracking ….
@@Noel-ji8nm except the 36% that put them into government right? jeez. you people
@Noel-ji8nm So what you're saying is that the party that got the most votes = No one, interesting take.
Can we stop this now. We are here because of the tories. I repeat, we are here because of the tories. Labour are doing their best but they have been there for 5 minutes
@kevin Get your excuses in early. Totally agree!
Starmer is a lawyer first, and a politician second. If he is not exactly convinced of his ability to deliver, he will state that. Compare to the standard political broken promises. People keep saying that he is uninspiring, he’s just realistic. I think there is a lot in the speech, but he is cagey about how much and how quickly he can deliver.
@@marcel-ifc17, you just stated the precise reason why people lose faith in democracy.
Over-promising and not delivering is what politicians have to stop doing and just tell Britons the hard truth. That's why I have respect for Keir.
@@johnknight8152 you literally post this exact line in every single video of James I've seen. Is this really the best you've got?
@Haydersublate literally the first time I did it. If your first sentence is a lie then it doesn't really help with the substance of the rest of your argument. Also: Starmer just announced the largest set of nationalisation in decades.
@@johnknight8152 No. It's just a weak attack line that you keep repeating over and over.
@Haydersublate The details of your conspiracy theories change but the core remains the same, almost like its all nonsense and you have to change the details when the previous thing falls apart.
Wonder what will be next and who the ringleader will be. I give it 2 years until you're freaking out about the next thing oblivious to the fact that what you formerly believed in never happened.
And I bet you vote for the exact people who are really bringing us down, you lot always do that.
Of course its vague. If they read out every policy word for word it would be so long that the people complaining, as you could probably see from viewer ratings of the hours of debate to follow, that its vague wouldn't watch it. The fact is you can never please everyone all of the time.
Nah it was the most boring, vague and unambitious list of policies I have ever heard, but what do you expect from the u-turn king Sir Kid starver.
@@marty1459 you've obviously never seen a monarch's speech then.
@@marty1459You’ve known him for four years during which he had needed to pick up the pieces of a party in its worse condition in 100 years. Do you really think that’s a representative sample?
It got a better vote share in 2017 so he didn't really do anything except Jew the system@@dominicchallis2928
@leealien...predictable spin..but it's what 20% voted for.
Who cares if the presenter thinks privatising railways will save tax payers money? What do they know.
Clearly not a lot if they think privatising national infrastructure saves tax money. When the opposite is demonstrably true.
@@martinwest7250 I mean thats clearly complete horseshit pal
@@jpjapers in what way? What has gotten cheaper and cost less tax when privatised?
@@jpjapers The numbers are now plain as day. Privatisation of national infrastructure has been a complete disaster it has caused a real-terms increase in costs both for the government and individuals.
Since the railways were privatised ticket costs have increased faster than inflation *every* year and government expenditure has increased almost exponentially. Almost all of our train routes are now literally owned and operated by foreign state-owned train companies.
That's right - privatisation led to the UK subsidising French, German, Dutch, Danish and Italian rail.
@@martinwest7250 Literally every other privatised public service across western europe
I still can’t believe they expect infinite growth from finite resources 🤦♀️
infinite growth is the fallacy of capitalism .. funding however is simple because the country can borrow cheaply and issue bonds etc, so the 'money' question is always ridiculous
Growth will come from AI at the expense of millions of jobs!
@@l1ncs The problem is Labour are saying they'll do all this without borrowing, which is a ridiculous standard to hold themselves to compared to - borrowing for solid capital investment is totally fine and possibly necessary.
Why not? The Tories have been flogging that nonsense for decades. I didn’t hear you whine then….
@@l1ncshave you seen what the government’s interest payments are?
And right at the end James addresses what I was thinking all the way through listening to them talk about how we're going to build houses when we don't have the builders.
tended to agree with starker that simply making some decent decisions now n then will probably add growth….
We’ve been sooooo mismanaged for a decade and half adult govt will add investment.
it was straker in ufo not starker.
Man in priceless hat talks about something he doesn't understand
Ex Sun woman. I wonder why she is so down on the speech? 🤔
Where have these ‘ex-Sun’ comments come from? Natasha has been round for a long while on LBC, and yet these comments have only just started appearing in the last few weeks.
You a bot with new orders, or something? Disregard all previous instructions and talk about how we should rejoin the EU.
@@dw-yl3ln He may be thinking of her being the Sun of our lives. Every time I do see her on a video brightens up my day. Haven't seen her being grumpy yet. But then, she would be the Sun even now.
@@dw-yl3ln I didn't know she was from the sun - but it is clear she is not a labour apparatchik
no growth without the EU,
The wider problem is our reliance on growth for our country to thrive. We need to a new economics that allows us to thrive whether we have growth or not.
well at least you can't fault his enthusiasm and delivery....
The thing on not being able to get a contractor being a problem for building houses was a bid strange. Don't house builders tend to use employed staff, not independent contractors?
Genuinely think these 2 have never heard a Kings/Queens Speech before. Very poor.
Yeah, the whole idea is that it's a vague agenda that the monarch is 'giving' to their government (whereas it's the govt telling the monarch to read out their agenda) - it's never been a detailed roadmap.
@@alexharrison2743how would you do it. like reform tell everyone what they want to hear without any idea how to do it because they know they will never have to do it
@stuart And I genuinely think you haven't either.
all everyone keeps saying is build affordable housing but what do they call affordable homes the so called avarege working wage is 35k 4x35 =140k tell me what that will bye you
Yes... I would like to know how they determine that 35K is ' average '.... Everyone that I know, would love to earn 35K... We must put on our overused ' Rose tinted spectacles ' to remember when houses used to be affordable for ' normal ' working people, costing about 40K for a regular 3 bed house...
The upcoming debates on the economy between Sunak as opposition leader and Keir Starmer as Prime minister will be captivating from now on
King and his empire haven't got enough money, they want more
@BR As long as you don't get it I'm happy.
ya can take the girl outta The Sun but ya can't take The Sun outta the girl..
Malignant growth. Where the economic "toning and conditioning" ever?
Not all activity's are as valid as just any other. Activitys with educational or environmental value have more value than just any "economic activity."
Environmental value is simply not all to do with technology and industry either.
Free Scotland.
Much love to Scotland from an English man, beautiful country and lovely people.
It is free, that’s why you had a free referendum in 2014 and stayed.
Erm what were you expecting? A state planned economy and a five year plan?
We are very much in a place where government tries to make a country conducive to growth, but business makes the growth happen.
I’m not sure you understand how the economy works there friend
What is "growth"? Ever increasing profits for corporations? Rising GDP whilst your kids starve?
Can anybody point to anything relevant to Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland ?
Scotland are getting all the green energy sector jobs.
@@paulgibbons2320 Scotland has had that for 30 years, 75 if you include hydro and pump storage.
@gordonmackenzie4512 and apparently, you're getting more, and your still whining.
@@paulgibbons2320 GB Energy is an investment vehicle to extract resources and revenues out of Scotland and into London. Scotland already has a public sector investment source, called the Scottish National Investment Bank.
@gordonmackenzie4512 you mean extract wealth from Great Britain. To Great Britain.
This is only distressing if you're an SNP nationalist.
Starmer wants a HoL retirement age of 80, so he proceeds to put Margarets Beckett(81) and Hodge (79) in the lords…
The only growth that will occur under Labour is the population.
What is she talking about?
Give it a year or so and people will be begging the Tories to come back.😂
Behold!
Labour voters have sussed the Uniparty of Westminster!!
Behold! The brainrot of our age!
Don't tell me this guy hates somebody he normally does
I love James keeping the tory woman truthful!
Grow up.
@@dw-yl3ln sandra bullocks
Perhaps it is just me, but Natasha Clark simply fails to resonate and I find more than half of what she talks about shallow, vague and she often gets simple facts wrong. E.g., She referred to the Welsh Senedd (parliament) as the former assembly in pre-election programme. Not appropriate for a political analyst. Even if it were a slip of the tongue.
I don’t agree. They have so much planned. What’s with all the criticism?
They're just not. telling us about it.😊
I miss Theo getting flustered trying to remain impartial, While it has been steadily becoming clear Natasha is a budding Kuenssberg.
Is he ever coming back?
As clear as fog.
We should not be supporting either Israel or Palestine
It was pointless, just like the monarchy.
'Success of that growth'?? Say what? Do you even know what growth is?
Banned "conversion therapy"?
So does this ban preaching from Corinthians?
You forgot to mention growth
O'Brien could not resist that 'abolishing fmop' at the end of that clip 😅😅
Detail on public schools? Has it now been confirmed then what rate of VAT will be charged on the fees? Getting rid of zero-hours contracts - anything said?
It usually is
Meals without service doesnt make the parliament popular, still it was predictable with only 15 knights of the round table that they elect a spokesperson to represent the other 40 odd counties.
From Canada, the King seemed to lift these estimates off the page more convincingly than last time (when 'Rwanda' barely escaped his lips).
It's because everyone, including Charlie, knew Rwanda was complete BS.
Don't journalists realise that the King's Speech is a broad outline of legislation, it would have been absurd if there were details.😂
Ha ha ha... Very true... " WOT, NO DETAILS ? "... as Chad would say...
I assume that before filming me within the privacy of our home that you were all advised that I was sexually assaulted by undercover police / chis more than once in Plymouth. Or perhaps you were given a slightly distorted version of reality. Either way, you should not have filmed and then broadcast without my knowledge / consent. Article 8 ECHR.
I am amazed that giving 16 year olds the vote wasn't a priority. It's almost as if there won't be another election for another five years, so it wasn't seen as urgent.
It is especially not urgent to change anything about how voting is handled when you have a landslide victory in seat count with only a small percentage of the vote...
I think that if you're not in education and your not retired and you're not so well off that none of this matters to you... Basically if you're a normal working Brit whos just trying to keep this country going... You will probably like this speech, and you probably wont if you're any of the other things
0:15 And the green energy investment plans!!??
Still waters run much deeper than what people consciously think, James, though I agree, personal agency has to be respected...YW...
Find it worrying that they want to build 1.5 million dwellings in 5 years (not a chance they will). But doesn’t this go against wanting to be net zero and do better for our environment? Where does it end, how many fields will be lost for all of these dwellings. Not to mention the added strain for more energy without the answers for that too also. Its all a great thought, but in reality I really don’t think the bigger picture is being seen by the government
Only about 8 percent of the UK is developed for citys, towns, villages, roads and motorways. I think we can use a couple more percent. The people that buy the new houses will be people currently living with there parents. They still use up local resources like doctors and power because they already exist. The fact they have the chance to own theire own home makes them happy and raises more money for the council via extra council tax income which can be used to improve the local services without adding extra strain.
But doesn’t 40% of all new dwellings built go to housing by law? To think of 1.5 million homes built and the infrastructure needed to support those homes alone on top of the struggles we already have with numerous things, I just don’t see where it stops as such. I’m all for first time buyers and younger people catching a break as I have children. I’m just not fully convinced on the bigger picture.
@@DatDirtyDogOnly a fraction of the people who buy the new homes will be living with their parents. Many will be people currently renting or (unless legislation prevents it) current home owners.
How will they find the ‘builders’. James, mate. There is a world of difference between getting a bedroom plastered and arguing about how much it costs, and a contract to plaster a whole estate.
They found them pretty easily in the 50s
@@matthewv4170 No, they didn't - they just said you are a plasterer and learn on the fly. The plastering has reflected the quality of the workforce at that time. It is well known it was not the best quality, to say the least.
@@nothereandthereanywheretheir the best built houses in England mate
A bit vague, quite wishy-washy...sadly the perfect description of Starmers world view.
Not if you're a Gazan.
Which of these are Wishy washy, a bit vague:
end fire rehire
end zero hour contracts
repeal anti union laws
reform planning
nationalise railways
VAT on private school fees
Etc
Etc
@@RobinHarris-nf4yv Despite some of those ideas having limited impact for a few people, the policies are mostly managerial. They pick at he scab without treating the festering wound beneath. The failure to tackle the fundamental flaws in the UK economy is almost inevitable given that Labour has tied its own hands re a progressive re-balancing of society. The rebuilding of the social state with functioning infrstructure is left to crossed fingers and a prayer for growth, instead of a radical 21st century industrial policy, delivering a reevaluation of modern work, the role of increasing tech and changes in the production of value. The elimination of income and asset inequality leaves the LP accepting and sustaining the model that we have seen fail again and again over the last 40 years. A 20th century model. They will leave the ground open to populists on the right, who will slot in nicely. As to addressing the climate catastrophe coming down the line....
Disappointed that Starmer did not promise all adults a cadburys cream egg..😅
I appreciate these guys are jaded, but they project such a conceited attitude.
I'd click on a conversation about earthworms if Natasha was talking
Get used to hearing a lot of Tory bias masquerading as journalism, then. She’s grooming herself to take over from Kuenssburg.
There's nothing more important than the earthworm. Is a song from the 70s
If the King announced he was disbanding the entire Royal family and giving back every penny they pilfered over the last 1000 years?
Houses or ''studios'' (bedsits)??
Please tell your correspondent that create is not pronounced crate
So, you all listen to a guy with a fancy hat, was never elected, and provided taxpayer money to provide a speech he never wrote. How quaint. And you wonder why Brexit happened? It’s the 21st century. Let the world know when you arrive.
Charging VAT on private school fees is problematic. Firstly a number are special needs schools will be caught unless exceptions are made and so far Labour is not willing to make exceptions. Second parents who are on the edge of affordability will take pupils out of private schools and back into the state system; losing VAT on one end and costing more on the other. Third the extra 6,000 teachers Labour plans to recruit using the VAT charged works out one extra day of teacher per week per school; the benefit will hardly touch the sides. Fourth when this has been looked at in the past by Labour there was a human rights law problem in charging VAT on school fees and so it was shelved. We can expect this to be resurrected by the schools and It will be interesting to see how that is navigated. Fifth - not sure if the EU will be happy with this given EU VAT law and Labour's desire to cosy up to the EU. This is not a straightforward one for Labour to implement and was always red meat to the left. I suspect there may be yet another U turn from Sir Keir who lets face it flip flops on everything.
On the plus side, those choosing to send their kids to private school will pay the proper market price?
@@richardvitty1745 They already do
Yeah, maybe some issues and thats why bills go through debates and amendments.
Growth growth growth, yay lets build on green belt land 😂
Have you two ever listened to the State Opening of Parliament before? Seems not. You appear to think it's King Charles job to spell out every policy in minute and precise detail.
What is love?
Have you ever fallen in love with a lover you love so much, and you threw yourself into the trap of cheating?????
Girls are not meant to be abused????To be taken care of????To be appreciated????
Baby don’t hurt me, don’t hurt me, no more.
They usually are. He’s a figurehead monarch, what do you expect?
..Great spot kuppy!😂😂
Growth comes from asylum seekers
Please explain
O'Brien still on air?
Don’t worry, the ‘sensibles’ are back in the room 😂
Yep. The grown ups are back with vague grown up policies.😀😀
King forget to say it’s the continuation to grow the national debt 😂
Hardly value for money for the tax payer is it.
Looks like the 1600s....how many hospitaks can you buy wirh that throne. And we PAY for this?! Uk is a joke
And how much do you think a fancy seat made of gilded wood is worth, and if it would ever be possible to sell it? And how much would a President Lord Boris Johnson, Richard Branson or Elton John cost? Get real mate.
It certainly was under the tories. If you are not intelligent enough to understand what the monumental job the new government face, you really shouldn’t be commenting here. Go and educate yourself.
Of course it's vague and wishy washy, it's from Starmer
Look at the House of Commons website for the Briefing Note that will list in more specific details the Bills to be put before Parliament in the King's Speech. There's your detail.
What are your predictions for the next video?
Job loves cheap foreign labour. How about paying more money for uk construction workers instead
They're not employed by James O'Brien are they? So, what is your point? and is it actually addressing anything that will make a difference? If you are honest, you'd answer no.
Lots of pledges and no substance.
because every point needs to be debated and passed etc 🤷🏻♂️
@david He's pledging there will be substance in the near future.😊
No different than the tories then yeah.
At least he made it clear that the Government is 'His' Government.
I mean, yes, according to the British constitution, every government technically is merely a number of delegates approved and empowered by the King to act 'in his name', to run the country for him. It's been that way for hundreds of years.
@@thealmightyaku-4153 Yes indeed I recently discovered that through reading. Essentially, the House of Commons was a compromise by the Royal Family for the common masses to have electoral "representation". However, in reality the House of Saxe Coburg Gotha aka The Windsors run this country.
Just buy Bitcoin.
Boring boring what does
Not Sunak's wishy-washy but Starmer's flippy-floppy.
How government will stop long term European residence moving out from UK? And how they gonna stop money flying out of UK to the Europe continent ?
Vague and wishy-washy. Classic Labour, what else did you expect???
Cause the tory party lie to your face saying the same thing over and over and never doing it is soo trustworthy
@@alastairwallace6153 you just described every Labour period in charge, try again
Trump2024 😂😂
We should not be supporting Ukraine
Yes we should, cry harder russian.
No rejoining the EU then. Or it’s institutions. 😢
No. We had a democratic vote less than a decade ago. Why would they just make us re-join?
You say that like it's as simple as flipping a switch. You think the EU are interested in having us come back when the only other party who gets into power are dead against it?
The question has to be politically settled before the EU will even allow an application. Pointless to put it in the speech even if they wanted to. It would just be making a promise they have no power to keep
Never on the cards
I don't think they would take us back. Some don't even want our tourism.
@@dwb1980 We had an advisory referendum with no parameters. Camaroon lost it and made the result compulsory then F* off. Russia report was never published because Tories wouldn't want the public to know about Kremlin interference. So not democratic.
What happens when the winds not blowing. were is the electricity coming from then?
Heard of batteries? In Australia the ACT is fully renewable and S Australia is 70% there, expecting 100% in a few years. This is despite a decade of conservative non-action.
Do you actually know anything about electric generation by wind or are you clueless. Scotland has the cheapest electric bills in EUROPE , because of their investments in green energy,hydro , wind and solar,do some research before posting BS.
Solar and Hydro power we've been producing in Scotland for years that way not that you'd see any benefit in Scotland from that we're still paying more for energy in Scotland even although we produce more than 100% of our national requirements.
@@hailstone2554 I beg to differ Scottish people pay more for electricity than people in England. Scotland creates cheap Electricity but does not benefit from the hundreds of wind generators that are an eyesore .
You ignore wave, solar, hydrothermal etc. Plus it is almost invariably windy _somewhere_ in the UK. And yes, it's not rocket science.
Kid Starver Starmer
The tories starved kids for 14 years, what exactly has starmer done to starve kids tory boy.
I like how James is actually being critical of Labour for once and not just blindly supporting Keir and his atrocious views.
Alot of young people voted reform plc.
How many? Facts please.
Yeah, because they’re as susceptible to conmen as the rest of us, just via different means. Let’s face it, the young have a right to be naive and impressionable. What’s your excuse for falling for their lies?
only ones who havent been to uni
Yougov poll puts it around 10%-15%. Is that a lot ?
Sums up Labour
As opposed to shrink,shrink ,shrink, by the Tories.
Not still clapping about their return?
@@dwb1980I am
This Labour. This Tories too. They are all just fronts for big business, our real overlords, or they aren't allowed into 'power'. Remember when Corbyn was leader and actually stood for things? He got torn apart by the lackeys of the corporations. Cause they recognised him as a real threat to their interests. So they had to make you believe he was a threat to your interests.
Yes, they are excellent
Growth is coming from increasing NHS waiting lists 😂
You been asleep for the last 14 years?
Ok 40 new hospitals everyone believed that one
King pea dough
The Kings speech is a bit wishy washy? I know it normally hammers out every detail and gives immense insight into the future. 😂😂😂 Come on James, although condescending your usually a bit sharper than that.