2:46 is just completely insane. He doubles every hit, snare hi hat and kick making it sound like a very short delay is applied. I don't even understand how he does that on the foot without double pedal. I've never seen anyone doing that as perfectly as him.
the idea here that Chris is getting across is instrumental performance equivalent to mixing two different tracks like turntables. having one loop going while arbitrarily playing a counterpoint track over it. it's a very complex way of performing and a tests to the point that the drummer is not the only one that keeps track of time but that every musician is to keep that pulse.
@@tekumsehcru8035 Indeed. But on repeated listening you realise this is musicianship of the very highest level! I’ve been a musician my whole long life, and I find this staggering!
The bass player is Foley!!! Former lead bassist with THEE Miles Davis from 1987 - 1991. And his metronome is in head!!! Chris could not lose him no matter how hard he tried!!!
Didn’t you see him sweating? i would too stay locked in for the sake of the entire performance, Chris is time traveling like never before, its just not safe to step out the Zone 💯
So for those interested, the baseline is from “Licking Stick” by James Brown, played by the mighty Bootsy Collins. Also played by Hank Ballard, on “how you gonna get respect” The more you know! It’s part of a great American jazz-funk tradition
All music has a beginning, middle and end. That is form or structure. Free jazz can work exactly like it does here. I say free especially because of the way that Chris and Zhenya are playing - but they have roles. Chris is the leader who goes back and forth between playing with Zhenya or Foley or improvising when he wants to. Foley is taking the traditional bassist role (holding the time and the groove) and Zhenya plays the melodies and improvises at Chris' discretion. Love this vid.
This is a great demonstration that a bass player can be a excellent time keeper. Sometimes the drummer can go off and do whatever he wants to. If the bass player is solid in what he knows to be the time signature. he can keep the time regardless of what is happening.
Man I'm 14 years late but later that than never, this was pure golden mastership. The bass player holding it down was a damn rock, he wasn't budging on that lock in. Would love to see this get reperformed
Chris Dave plays things that no one else plays at the speed he plays them. He's not the fastest drummer, but he is the most interesting drummer at incredibly fast speeds.
Man, this is still sounding as good as when I first heard it! The sax player is perfect for this concept. And @phatcurtis, I think that's a good way to explain it, but when you think of Chris as the drummer it's way more interesting... either way that's a good explaination.
I saw this video once and it took me a long time to find it again. Although I'm sure I wont lose it this time I'd like to suggest that it be get a tag for 'Lickin Stick'
For some reason I can't reply the relevant people but this is in response to 2CProductionsZAR's comment. I think the point this is the tension created by Chris and Zhenya playing against the bass player's groove. He grooves it so hard and stays solid the whole time they are playing this whack rhythm across it and when it comes back its just the most kick ass thing. They could just groove on the same thing but I think it would be less exciting. That's what I think anyway.
@nthsieh928 That is indeed that Foley. Joe "Foley" McCrary from Columbus, OH. Played all that "lead bass" stuff with Miles alongside Marcus Miller and Kenny Garrett back in the 80s.
Because he’s a genius. And a modest one at that! I keep coming back to this year on year to remind me how far I have to go as a musician! Oh how I wish I was there, to see this!
Do you know how hard it is to do what Foley is doing? I mean,seriously. This group makes itself look really good. Chris is going to be Chris. But the other cats are awesome. The way Chris locks with the saxophonist on the melody is pretty insane.
He’s not really good: he’s a genius. Foley said Miles Davis “treated me like a son”. And he hung out and played with Prince. Listen for his purity of sound, his graceful effortlessness, and his timing here…….. ua-cam.com/video/Lps4EXYJI9E/v-deo.html
@StudioPetrarca the top is a sabian hhx 18" ozone crash, the bottom sabian aax el sabor picante 18" handcrash. i know the hats don't look so extremely big, but only the 18" ozones have 8 holes and the spacing of the holes makes it clear that it's a hhx one ;)
Its like Roger Daltrey said of the Who "what people have to understand is that Pete is the Drummer, Entwistle is the lead guitarist and Keith, well he is a 100 piece orchestra" I'll give you a clue in this video, the drummer is the guy with 4 strings :)
The bass player is the drummer, come out of your musical box and think beyond traditional instrumentation, I think this piece of music is ingenious!!!
Well, on one hand, I'd say he's one of the drummers.
But on the other hand, I agree wholeheartedly. Adding that he always has been.
Foley is a machine. That was incredible. Locked in is an understatement.
Yeah but whats up with the mad drums and different tempo ?
@@jungleninja8415I'd wager that's where the criss cross in Criss Cross comes from. Lol.
"Bro, if Foley could get through Chris Cross with the Daddy Dave you can get through that bad acid trip"
Best comment I ever read
hahahahah perfect
You've done it my man. I'm playing this when i trip again.
@@randalllionelkharkrang4047 I don't think that was the message... and I don't think it's wise.
Greatest comment, jesus
every video from this gig is so good, been re-watching for 15 years
"Licking Stick" by James Brown + "Criss Cross" by Thelonius Monk
omg my brain....ARRRGHHHHHH..dat bass player is a real hero..
little did we know Foley is actually deaf.
What?
Yeah what?????!!!!
Sarcasm. He’s saying the only way the bassist can keep up the groove is because he can’t hear Dave’s off-beat rhythms.
😊😊😊
😂😂😂😂😂or a genius
The more I listen to Chris Dave's drumming the more I love it.
All praise the Daddy!
2:46 is just completely insane. He doubles every hit, snare hi hat and kick making it sound like a very short delay is applied. I don't even understand how he does that on the foot without double pedal. I've never seen anyone doing that as perfectly as him.
He' s just a mfkn genius...i guess!
Is magic 🤯
I know I'm 4 years late, but he's probably using the heel-toe technique Jojo Mayer uses or something akin to that
@@gaelbaca2958yeah technically it's not that hard. Just a very interesting and genius way of using it.
@@brauliosalcedo5418 Yeah man, I mean, there's a reason they call him "Daddy"
I can't stop smiling.
The purely of the bass line running through in contrast with the drum and sax is genius!
the idea here that Chris is getting across is instrumental performance equivalent to mixing two different tracks like turntables. having one loop going while arbitrarily playing a counterpoint track over it. it's a very complex way of performing and a tests to the point that the drummer is not the only one that keeps track of time but that every musician is to keep that pulse.
it is actually complex metric modulation, the different parts are all based on the same underlying pulse.
Yes it is really interesting but very hard to listen for the first time...
@@tekumsehcru8035 … ive never heard anything like it
Aka the name of the monk song....criss cross...
@@tekumsehcru8035 Indeed. But on repeated listening you realise this is musicianship of the very highest level! I’ve been a musician my whole long life, and I find this staggering!
Been watching this for like 10 years. I will always be studying Foley here!
Foley played with Miles Davis. Nuff said.
Plot twist, He is using noise cancelling headphones under that big hoodie.
+thegoodnightyak Lol, nah..Foley can count on a level most CANNOT
He's been doin this for years, since Miles Davis discovered him in 1987
+thegoodnightyak You ! Again ! Snarky puppy and now this ? awesome !
+MarioDieX dude you can do it if you just focus on yourself. no headphones needed. still really great and unique performance! :)
I don't believe it. He's sweatin way too much to be just jammin silently too himself.
Matthew Martin Again, the hoodie...
i watched it 8 times in 2 days and its still getting better.
Foley the immovable object!
revolutionary drumming
Foleys all like " gotta stay in time.. aaahhh" you can see in his face how hard this must be :D
I love this whole 2009 set! It's some of my favorite UA-cam videos. I hope you tour in the US sometime soon. XOXOXOXOXOXOXO
Shouts out to that bass player for staying 'locked' during Chris' MADNESS! lol
Probably he has a metronome in his ears
The bass player is Foley!!! Former lead bassist with THEE Miles Davis from 1987 - 1991. And his metronome is in head!!! Chris could not lose him no matter how hard he tried!!!
@@dobrynineThat'd be my go-to trick.
I'm not getting genjutsu'd rn. Lol.
Can anyone say, MASTERS AT WORK?
This is sooooo beyond!!! Foley is the man!!!
My goodness that bass player hates leaving the pocket. that was amazing
Didn’t you see him sweating? i would too stay locked in for the sake of the entire performance, Chris is time traveling like never before, its just not safe to step out the Zone 💯
Absolute madness. I love it!
chris dave is that one drummer that scares everyone. he is it. i see no one better than him. crazy thing is we haven't even seen all that he can do
how there may be people who don't like this? GOD!! this is amzing!!
Chris Dave is a genius - no two ways about it
so - it was enough. i bought the exact same hihat, the sound is just too amazing.
Wow...this is bananas! High fives to the bass player especially. How he was able to hold it together amongst all that, I'll never know.
This song is called "attempt to get the bass player to play out of time" hahah
So for those interested, the baseline is from “Licking Stick” by James Brown, played by the mighty Bootsy Collins.
Also played by Hank Ballard, on “how you gonna get respect”
The more you know! It’s part of a great American jazz-funk tradition
The drumming on this jam is just sic! Can't believe I've only recently discovered Chris Dave's music.
All music has a beginning, middle and end. That is form or structure. Free jazz can work exactly like it does here. I say free especially because of the way that Chris and Zhenya are playing - but they have roles. Chris is the leader who goes back and forth between playing with Zhenya or Foley or improvising when he wants to. Foley is taking the traditional bassist role (holding the time and the groove) and Zhenya plays the melodies and improvises at Chris' discretion. Love this vid.
This is a great demonstration that a bass player can be a excellent time keeper. Sometimes the drummer can go off and do whatever he wants to. If the bass player is solid in what he knows to be the time signature. he can keep the time regardless of what is happening.
Man I'm 14 years late but later that than never, this was pure golden mastership. The bass player holding it down was a damn rock, he wasn't budging on that lock in. Would love to see this get reperformed
Exactly what a bass player should be. Wow
What ? As aose to what
See... again, I love it when people can go back in order to move ahead. Again, good crisp sound.
This guy just became my favorite drummer, wow!
Chris Dave plays things that no one else plays at the speed he plays them. He's not the fastest drummer, but he is the most interesting drummer at incredibly fast speeds.
man i am really listening to it now, this is crazy, very free...
Amazing!! I'm a drummer and I love going off while the bass keeps the same groove the entire time.
Pure dope.chris is one of the best .
There should be a statue erected just for Foley for keeping this groove so tight. HOLY SHIT
out of all the drummers i study i would have to say chris dave and jojo mayer are the greatest of them all!!
Youre nuts check put yusef kamel or louis cole or fearless flyers drummer or Jeff beck ect list is endless
Woah! From about 6:40 to about is incredible. That hi-hats perfect and what he's doing is just amazing and creative. Great player
Chris Dave is da bomb!
Man, this is still sounding as good as when I first heard it! The sax player is perfect for this concept. And @phatcurtis, I think that's a good way to explain it, but when you think of Chris as the drummer it's way more interesting... either way that's a good explaination.
I dont get it But I LOVE IT !!
CHRIS IS AN AWSOME DRUMMER....DEFINTELTY TOP OF THE LIST
I saw this video once and it took me a long time to find it again. Although I'm sure I wont lose it this time I'd like to suggest that it be get a tag for 'Lickin Stick'
Foley is the boss
This was INSANE!!!
OMG this is so amazingly good!
haha
fan?
Great drumming period.. something new and refreshing.. and ya gotta give it to the bass player for laying it down so solid :)
James Brown - Licking Stick?
Foley is playing the exact same bass line as "Licking Stick" by James Brown
permutations and polymeter used to be so well known back in the day
Foley should have just had a loop pedal. 😆. Played it one time and clicked the pedal. Bam 💥. Grab a drink.
THIS IS BRILLIANT GENIUS.
CHANGED MY LIFE
Chris is playing lead guitar in this video, and Foley is the drummer.
Houston's Own Jazz Great...on drums....Mr Chris Dave.....Chris "Daddy" Dave
This boy is playin' with the bassist,and the sax!!!!!!!!! In-freakin-credible!!!!!!!
For some reason I can't reply the relevant people but this is in response to 2CProductionsZAR's comment.
I think the point this is the tension created by Chris and Zhenya playing against the bass player's groove. He grooves it so hard and stays solid the whole time they are playing this whack rhythm across it and when it comes back its just the most kick ass thing. They could just groove on the same thing but I think it would be less exciting. That's what I think anyway.
Make an album alreadyyyyyyyyy
Chris has a better sense of groove than pretty much any drummer I've watched. AND he can do all this stuff.
amazing! foley is solid as rock!
Please.. We'd all be sweating if we had to try to keep time with Chris Dave
i like the drumming and time signature
The hoodie is magic.
"What kind of noise-cancelling headphones do you recommend?"
"My ears."
Incredible
¡Yes! Thank-you Chris Dave for pushing
@nthsieh928 That is indeed that Foley. Joe "Foley" McCrary from Columbus, OH. Played all that "lead bass" stuff with Miles alongside Marcus Miller and Kenny Garrett back in the 80s.
No matter how hard any musician tries to stay in the pocket, the shit Chris pulled at 3:51 would throw anyone out of whack.
But not Foley!
I agree 100%
Because he’s a genius. And a modest one at that! I keep coming back to this year on year to remind me how far I have to go as a musician! Oh how I wish I was there, to see this!
That bassist doesn't lose a single fricken note....
Welcome to SM world of music!
By the way, this bass groove is from the song 'Funky funky reggae' by Dave Barker (Trojan records)
...speechless!
that's what I am!
Bravissimo to the bassist ! AI AI AI ! ! ! Incredible drummer Mr.Chris !
this bass line is from the James Brown tune 'Lickin' Stick'. 'Mama come here quick and bring me my lickin' stick.'
Good point.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there's a relationship between the tempo Chris and Zhenya are playing at and the one Foley's laying down.
man I love the beat he does at 2:45... It's called Echo, so sick! ! !
i'm all in!
music is math... this is a clear representation of that... very complicated but simple and it will never lie to you...
Please explain, I can’t figure out the modulation
Super cool
Do you know how hard it is to do what Foley is doing? I mean,seriously. This group makes itself look really good. Chris is going to be Chris. But the other cats are awesome. The way Chris locks with the saxophonist on the melody is pretty insane.
this is sick!
@drumma771 Actually Foley is a mainstay of the trio, and the sax-player was just filling in for their usual saxophonist.
You have to be a really good bass player to play a single riff for 9' and still get all the credits
He’s not really good: he’s a genius. Foley said Miles Davis “treated me like a son”. And he hung out and played with Prince. Listen for his purity of sound, his graceful effortlessness, and his timing here……..
ua-cam.com/video/Lps4EXYJI9E/v-deo.html
This is my mental therapy right there
@StudioPetrarca the top is a sabian hhx 18" ozone crash, the bottom sabian aax el sabor picante 18" handcrash. i know the hats don't look so extremely big, but only the 18" ozones have 8 holes and the spacing of the holes makes it clear that it's a hhx one ;)
Bass Brother Foley!!! 🙏🏿❤️
My ears bled after listening to this...
I appreciate the bass player showin' love to James Brown in the beginning. Almost, symbolic ;)
actually showing love not only in the beginning, but for the entire song :)
What tune is that bass line from?
High Mathematics!
Its like Roger Daltrey said of the Who "what people have to understand is that Pete is the Drummer, Entwistle is the lead guitarist and Keith, well he is a 100 piece orchestra" I'll give you a clue in this video, the drummer is the guy with 4 strings :)
Chris "Daddy" Dave 😂😂🤣🤣...he's a machine
diggin bass man's hoodie