KANG THE NEGATIVE... I forgot this card existed.
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- I haven't seen Kang the Conqueror in forever, so I had to try him out in the latest version of a Mister Negative deck with Sage and Taskmaster!
Decklist: snap.untapped.gg/en/decks/Cos...
Power Estimate: I had an okay run with this deck, landing up on cubes with a 54% win rate. That's fairly typical for a Mister Negative list, so it didn't feel like experimenting with Kang had a particularly negative impact on its success. That said, Kang didn't exactly feel amazing either, so I can't see a good reason for him to make the cut over other cards that might offer more raw power output.
-Marvel Snap Videos: • Marvel Snap
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Video Chapters
0:00 Deck Introduction
3:33 Deck Gameplay
Marvel Snap | KANG THE NEGATIVE... I forgot this card existed. - Ігри
I'll always remember Kang as the card that got me sent death threats for saying it was a bad card before release. People were absolutely rabid over how this was "auto include in every deck" and "free snap."
I bet they wish they could somehow rewind time to leave a different comment...
Turns out a card that basically tells you how your opponent is about to win isn't that great.
I mean it lets you retreat@@TechnoScorpion
Sometimes is just about having fun
I never got death threats but I was super low on this card too. Total trash.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, just have Kang stay on the field even after the turn rewinds. Make him like a 5/2 or 5/3, and he'll at least find a home in some C2/C3 decks.
Sames stats but change text to:
Rewind turn. If I opponent plays same cards, gain 5 power.
That way Kang can stay and actually be useful.
That'll make it playable.
Genius idea actually.
actually interesting change
This actually a great idea
5 power to what exactly? Kang?
@@airicatagiri yeah
Kang and Ravonna together are good because you can get Kang out on cuve and see what the opponent is doing. Also, an underrated Kang thing is he shows you exactly how on reveals will play out, e.g. if the oppenent destroys a Wolverine it will show you where that card will land. Most of the time the opponent wont change their play so you can tweak your playlines.
I like the mind game part of this card. And elaborating about the fitting curve part, ravonna set the Kang to 4 cost so if you draw on turn 4 you can play kang and mill the deck. Not just turn 5 or turn 6. This is an 8% increase of milling chances.
In the game they work well together. In the comics it is the exact opposite
to be more precise, Kang uses the same random seed before and after the rewind so if everything is played exactly as is, the results won't change, however if the order of randomness changes then the result could also change, I don't think most people know this unless you also play Kang so part of the mindgame is whether you want to have the exact same outcome or if you try to switch it up by playing a random card yourself or switching the order of random cards you play
@@banan9377 Yup. I used to actually enjoy him before lockjaw got neutered. You could test your draw even on 6, and you could sometimes mil early if you grabbed him out of lockjaw for free info.
I would love to see a video of you just saying everything you find wrong/bad with Marvel Snap. We all have some opinions but you seem to be more rational than many of us.
I’m so hype for this video, I’ve been waiting for a mister negative deck and it’s here!! Love your vids, keep it up man!
I think Kang could be good if it forces the opponent to play the same way they play on the reset turn, becoming a turn 6 daredevil, but maybe that's to op? Who knows
i know. it's too op
More than likely they tested that effect and found it unbalanced.
I think he needs to stay on the board with a 2 or 3 power, but again I bet they tested it.
Is this not just daredevil except it works on turn 6 too
I think the issue at that point would be you essentially have a free Daredevil (since it refunds your energy) that you can use whenever you want, but even better what with the effect on Turn 6 being a lot stronger than Turn 5. Maybe if Kang made you play your turn with less Energy or had some downside to it?
Something like 2/0 On Reveal: If it's after turn 5, look at what your opponent did, then YOU replay the turn with 2 less energy
Or it could be worded as if it's the only card you play on turn 5/6 you're getting an extra turn for you only where you have 4 energy max or whatever.
Then it would be in every deck for sure
0:32 this is unfortunately so true, at the rate they pump new cards, the series drops just don't keep up
Can we all take a moment to appreciate Sages super fast animation that doesn't make us wait all day through wong triggers?
26:00 Kang probably crashed their game and the reconnect took too long, lol.
Always love the vids Regis :) Hope you and your family are doing well! ❤
I’ve played against many SO LITTLE that I haven’t seen it once in all of my time playing
We need an Adam Warlock video next
C5 with pixie 🙏
I think he'll be really good with Arishem
The “oh no mysterio!” Had me dying 😂
I LOVE your content, it's amazing! Keep going
It’s 2 am and I have work tomorrow, but I can’t see the notification and not click it, thanks regis for being so addicting
I've been playing Kang decks almost exclusively this month ever since I auto-completed a deck around my two least played cards to get out of a slump and found out he combines deck thinning with near perfect information
Oh man Thanks for this RegisKillbin. After missing infinite for a couple of months now, I'm back. and just in time. This is actually a very surprising Deck. Cause no one expects a big Sage follow up free taskmaster. and the cosmo just bothers their play. Kang plays well really here cause he can be a 5 power on a cosmo or a revert the snap type of card.
38:52 Sage is so good. I wish I got her she seems really good
I missed out on sage, white widow, and Valeria which turns out we're the best cards released
@user-tr1ui4fx1g white widow is good, but valeria, what is this card? I actually don't know/remember it and never seen it played against me
He meant Valentina (not so good tho, compared to the other ones)
@@Ryleight yeah my B. Idk her stat line is too good in my opinion and even if the card isnt useful she still works really well in loki mockingbird decks
The Kang stuff was really fun to watch!!
Wait i swear last week i literally commented i bet you wouldent make a kang video and you actually did lol 😆 thats crazy lmao props
I had a lot of fun with Specimen's version of this deck a few months ago. I'll have to give this list a go.
love your videos
That Shadow King Stature had me doing the same thing. I felt your pain.
36:40 I make this mistake all the time 😂 he definitely thought the location was eternity range.
"oh no, Mysterio no" had me rolling lol
I used to play this style of negative kang deck, you can also add the goblins :)
Now we just need a video covering M'Baku!!
Love how regis was so sure of the galactus never trust your oponent
Still surprised by the influence you have on what decks people play. First game I played after watching this video was against this deck. I actually snapped and won for a change.
Hey Regis, this deck is awesome man I finally got to infinite using this ! But instead of kang and cosmo, I used rogue and spider ham
Do you still stream? I've tried finding you on twitch, but no dice
I've said elsewhere but I think the reworking for Kang that would work, and keep with the time travel theme, is On Reveal, reverts all cards in play to their original state. Removes all buffs, restores ongoing cards that have had their abilities fixed, removes afflictions.
Not sure what stats that would get, but would be fun tech.
That sounds way too strong, you could easily wipe out entire deck archetypes, like bounce for example
I could feel the panic in that accidental Iron Man play over Kang
Before this video came out I got hit with a Kang game earlier today for the first time in like 7 months. Wild. I think it was a similar but different deck
26:00 dude could have miraged a 0/5 Ironman or taskmaster and chose to pass…
*Loki opponent plays your ironheart* “so we’re not sure which card cable took”
Love seeing mister negative
Underrated use for Kang: Lets you see what you're going to pull with LockJaw. Plus if you pull Kang from Lockjaw it just acts acts as a deck thinner.
What is a good replacement for kang in this deck?
I am playing snap after 5 months , so what am i missing is there any op card should I get . I have 6 keys should I save the keys and i have 13k tokens . What should I do? Thanks in advance.
I played recently and had TWO back to back games vs a Kang. It was wild. I shoulda bought a lotto ticket!
That game where the opponent seemed to go AFK... I kinda wonder if there is still a bug with Kang kicking people out of the game or his effect takes so long that they aren't able to do anything for the rest of the game. I recall there being an issue like that in the past, but since it hardly gets played, it hardly gets tested.
They should change it so you could choose to rewind or end turn, then it will be broken with negative decks. Imagine playing your line on last turn with 0/6 kang, and if you are winning, you can decide to end the turn and win and also make it so they can't retreat on your final decision.
No morph. Miss opportunity. Both where the variants never get seen.
I would rework Kang by making him a 3/0, but you could rewind turn whenever you want after he's played as long as he's still on the field of play
I heard about someone playing Kang with Morph, since it tells you what the morph will hit since RNG is all locked in, unless the opponent plays it of course, but also you usually know *all* of your opponents possible plays!
Yeah, but playing Kang with Morph is an 8 cost play.
@@maudlifeMr negative says its a zero cost play
22:36 if you paid attention, they played your ironheart already so you knew exactly what's in your deck
What do you guys think is a good magic alternative
kang needs to be a 0-0 or have a complete rework. i feel like being able to use him on earlier turns and/or playing him with other cards would help him actually do his job
I was expecting "My Mom Is" to have the title "A bit smelly but otherwise fine" lmao
At 3:50 regis mentions how Mobius counters entire archtypes, i never considered him one of the best tech's, but now that i think about it he kind of does do that. Just out of curiosity I wonder what the best techs really are because I'm sure most think it's probably shang chi but I wonder if you look at the stats, who really is?
Obviously this was supposed to be a fun excuse to use Kang and not a good deck, but I think in the whole video there was only one game where you played a 0/5 ontop of cosmo, and that was a game where Kang got flipped by The Peak, wasn't even Mr. Negative's doing. And of course flipping his mana cost doesn't really do anything in games where you play him off of cosmo.
He regis got an idea for a deck that revolves around cards that make cards that you can add to your deck ex broods brooding,widows bite and others
I have 2 ideas of how make kang good, I based on the "time" that kang is in your deck or hand, what you think?
1) Kang 5/7. For each turn Kang ends in your hand +1 power and for each turn Kang is in your deck -1 cost (5/12 if draw him on turn 1 and play him on turn 6, 0/7 if draw him on turn 6)
2) Kang 5/10. For each turn Kang is in your deck -1 cost (ignore mobius) (5/10 if draw him on turn 1 and play on turn 6, 0/10 if draw him on turn 6)
What happens if you play Kang on Wong?
12:33 nice soundbite
I said this on a reddit thread (seemed to be a popular opinion) but Kang should have had the ability to rewind or fast forward. Similar to Magik creating Limbo to make a turn 7. If you are in turn 5 and play Kang you should have the ability to fast forward (travel into the future) and completely 86 turn 6. That would have made it's ability more chaotic.
If kang was 4k tokens or cheaper i'd consider, i think one of the first marvel snaps i watched had him
If kang just kept his body after the turn resets, i think he might be playable
My mom is...a bit of a scientist? ;)
Thanks for the video and the deck.
I was playing your 'Dumb and Cheap' deck the other day. My opponent played Magik and then, on turn 7, they played Shang-Chi, followed by Absorbing Man.
I was very sad. :P
It's kinda funny
@@JWASNAP It actually was. I was simultaneously in disbelief and laughing.
What if we just start using kang how we used to use Chavez, a free draw? Cause it’s still thinning your deck, you can see opponents plays and if second dinner realises this they will rework kang to be better.
Whoever says anything, Kang will remain one of my favorite cards in the game
Everyone loves a good Kang Bang
I got kang out of the the sasquatch spotlight and I'd sad cause i don't have sage or ravona to make him useful
Been playing since the Phoenix season pass....still havent seen Kang
Kang can be a free draw if you play him the turn you draw him, which in the right deck is pretty good 👍
So you have 2 chances to get a free draw otherwise its largely useless? I'd rather just put something that always does something I want.
I see you’ve seen my comments on a couple of your videos! Hopefully this will help marvel snap change Kang. Been begging for it! He’s no better than daredevil lol. A big bad should be a good card!
Kang the Conqueror card change that I thought of (and sent to marvel snap’s instagram lol) :
Current: (5/0) On Reveal: Look at what your opponent did, then restart the turn. (Without Kang)
New: (4/0) On Reveal: Look at what your opponent did, then restart the turn. (Without Kang). Until the end of next turn, your cards revert back to their original card layout.
I think this would not only make Kang relevant again (since he is one of the biggest characters in marvel), but it would probably be the coolest card out there!
Example: Play Kang on turn 4 and if you have Spider-Man in your hand, he changes to his original layout. (4/2) On Reveal: Your opponent can’t play cards here next turn.
Please let me know what you think Regis!
I was like REGIS NO THATS NOT KANG
I had enough tokens for either Thanks or Kang just before the Thanks-Lockjaw meta exploded, and i chose Kang.
Bryce... What have you done?
Kang's exclusion from spotlight cache's is very strange too and makes me think it has to be something bigger. I also think if we ever do see kang in a future spotlight he must be getting a rework, he creates cool moments but he's so not great numbers wise and the animation feels awful to use.
My guess is "my mom is built like a truck" because mine is "yo mama built like a truck"
cannot stop laughing and rewatching turn 7 against bryce
I made infinite this season with Kang. I used him with Strong Guy.
It kinda seems like this deck would just straight up be better w/o Kang and Cosmo
Bryce really put the bruh into Bryce
Kang + Agatha when I wanna play troll decks 😎
Play kang, it’s definitely to manipulate the game/turn.
Does anyone know what happens if you jubbilie kang?
i think Kang just like old American Chaves, but can draw early, make 11 card deck.. XD
I truly did forget Kang was a card lol. What if they made Kang a 2/0 that completely skips the next turn for both players, but he can't be played on turn 5? Idk, all I know is I really hope they rework him.
I played this deck yesterday and my play on turn 5 was to do nothing because I had a win with infinaut so my opponent played it and then nothing happened 😂
Because you have to know that infinaut is happening if someone doesn't do anything on turn 5, even without the Kang 😂
Regis using a cosmetic on his white widow! 😉
That was not his white widow. He got it from the Weirdworld.
@@hampter6078 yeah I know that's why the wink
@@AlexijSeptimus oh well normally a wink doesn’t indicate sarcasm
I wish SD would try literally anything to make Kang an interesting card. Right now he's basically a free Daredevil albeit less reliable, which just isn't worth the card spot he takes up.
I get that his ability is hard to balance, he could very easily become a plague on the meta if done poorly. But after this long it just feels like they've just left him for dead. And no card that costs 6k tokens should be this fucking bad.
12:33 9 WHAT
Started playing this year and I got Kang in my first or second ever spotlight cache but I think this is such a lame card that I have never added it to a deck or even upgraded it once
We can use zola instead kang & copy our sage and he will be 0-6 himself
I wonder why Kang was never addressed in their balance patches … the marketed as “Big bad” and then just forgot about it… worst purchase in my snap history
I don’t even play snap. I hate playing the game lol. I used to hit infinite all the time by my CL got up too much before I could learn high level play and now I can’t even get past the 80s. Even with meta decks. I just get absolutely slammed. I am pretty burnt out from people getting the most perfect negative runs. Destroy runs. And even hela runs that I just can’t anymore lol. It’s burned me to a crisp. I get I’m bad. Yet my 7 infinites wasn’t easy. I like watching so much more.
Card is like me fr ( gets no play )
Why wasnt kang drop to s3 at this point cause there no reason for this guy be 6k tokens
yes. kong. you put on deck and then hes just vanish.
Keep stats make text On reveal redo (your) turn without kang
Negative is back and.... Is that Kang??? Lmao alright
Magik while Limbo was already on board. Your genius is beyond our comprehension!
25:35 Opponent mirage will copy flip Ironman should have played Ironman on turn 6
Hah, I remember Kang first coming out, good lord it got tiresome to watch. But yeah, I don't know when we stopped seeing him. Guess people just didn't care about the info they got?
5-5 he stays in board