At 19:03, wouldn't knull and mystique middle be waaaaay better at +30 power instead of 17 just for knull after carnage eats the widow's bite? Titan reduced Knull's cost and you had 8 energy to spend.
This was my favourite deck back when Darkhawk was a 4/0 because he got discounted by Ravonna and old Zabu, and could get eaten by Venom to boost Knull.
Wait, this is unreal. I just realized that you used to write about [redacted] stuff on some niche blogs years ago. Holy crap, what a small world. Much love ❤️
@@RegisKillbinI think there's a reason why there is an action figure in your background. I, too, was a fan of it. Not collecting it, but watching and reading reviews. I think it was a decade ago when my UA-cam account was created. Is this true? I don't want to go into much detail as this is the internet.
@@alifnaufal I did write about action figures for a while. I don't remember doing any videos or really featuring my face too much though, so I'm surprised you'd recognize me.
@@RegisKillbin LMAO. Man, keep doing what you're doing. Love your stuff! Oh, and what I meant is that I just loved watching and reading toy reviews in general back then. I was rewatching your old HotS content and checked a few articles for old times' sake. One of the articles mentioned by your *name*, and I knew deep down that you also wrote toy reviews. I realized I had saved a bunch of them, including a few written by you. This is a wild coincidence-you don't know how surprised I was realizing that I had been looking up your reviews after all this time.
@@alifnaufal Haha, yeah that all tracks! Thanks for supporting me across 3 different lives, hahaha. The only thing you seemed to have missed is when I covered College Basketball for a while.
I've been playing essentially this exact deck for months and no one expected it. Time for that to end 😭 Oh well, hope you guys have fun with it, it's a blast.
In game 2 playing magik mid guaranteed flipping it to mr neg. The only thing that changed that was your opponent stealing the last card in your deck. You still won either way, just a note on how you thought through the turn.
Aw, who remembers 0 power venom? I used to play them in negative knull all the time. They killed my boy by buffing him, so its cool to see that its good enough again.
Im currently hovering around 601 collection level. I have been experimenting with destroy and discard but I cant wait to get access to all these fun looking cards!!
yes venom and carnage were used in an old variant of Negative decks. I used them when darkhawk and zabu were meta. So i just ate them and then Knull + zola
@TheMichaelKoss with jane foster Carnage - Revona - Venom - Mystique - Magik - Crystal - Killmonger (Can be rogue if you see mobius a lot) - Mister Negative - Shang Chi - Jane Foster - Knull - Zola If you want a different kinda line, swap Jane Foster with Nico. I used to run lady deathstrike and yondu, but those are too weak now. And negative hit is cool but NOT needed for your win condition if you always have 1 destroy lane, 1 revona lane, 1 empty lane to hit zola knull finisher.
38:48 I can't believe a Surfer deck is looking at Mr. Negative and folded with Shaw Wong and Mystique on the board. They had to have 4 rocks in hand. There is no way😂😂😂😂 Nobody ever runs from my bluff snaps I always lose 8😂😂😂. I genuinely can't believe they had Wong Mystique onboard WITH PRIORITY and left
Came for the deck… Made the deck… RNG was against me… Horrible lands, opponents always had the right cards (super skill/tribunal), draw Mr. Neg or magic the turn after I could use them, retreated and lost 15 cubes in total.
Im a negative destroy enjoyer, i use shang instead of Nico for tech, people dont expect this kind of combination and u can steal cubes with random knull mystique without playing neg
4 of my 5 infinite runs have been with a few different versions of this deck. Its gives you the most obvious snap or retreat conditions. Something I ran into a lot was getting a negatived jane on turn 5, and not being able to play her, but mobius helps with that, so I put him in the newest version, and I got rid of magik, because nocturne is everywhere killing turn sevens left and right.
Mill decks are actually such a cancer. I’m not even complaining cuz there hard to beat, I actually rarely lose to them I just get annoyed everytime lol
I used to play a version of this deck with bast and Deadpool and it was pretty consistent because even if you never drew the negative you still had the big Deadpool to really on
Yeah, I play the same deck, with Killmonger instead of Ravonna as well. It seems much more consistent than this version since you have a strong Destroy deck even when things don't go perfectly with the Negative plan. I don't see the point in the ramp, either, since all you really need is a single Knull or Arnim to be flipped.
My brain screamed when he played carnage and then knull, granted he still got the win but he had 8 energy and could have copied the knull with mystique
Loved this deck and specially the last game, it's totally what I do in those situations LOL So many people are afraid at infinite ladder and I really don't know why. It doesn't mean much to lose or win (for me at least) at infinite. That said, I'd love to see you play a deck with cards you don't play. Try to make a deck with Makkari, Angel and MBaku, maybe to keep at concept (not exactly, but to make it not only meme) Brood, Winter Soldier, Mockingbird, Sentry, Sersi, the widows... Lots of cards you don't play or benefit from not playing. What do you think?
Blame the junk deck; they make this deck risen up. Carnage and Venom is just good at cleaning up board space... and for Negative decks that relied on powerful effect like Arnim Zola, you need some sort of board cleaner anyway.
I wish we could get a shuffle back into the deck archetype, even if its random, and the bonuses are +power to the cards shuffled or -cost, or not bonus at all and just a cheap big lad with a shuffle cost. I just want my boy m'baku to be gigantic when he jumps out, a legit fnaf jumpscare with a 1/10 dude sniping a location at the end of the game. And it could help the mr negative decks even if the +power or -cost would be a negative.
I’m playing similar deck without nico & x23 but with shuri Nimrod, super consistent with or without mr.-ve on hand, grandmaster is crazy good in this too
I wish i could enjoy Mr Negative but 9 times out of 10 whenever I try my negative decks, my high cost cards start in my hand and Negative is no where to be found.
Psylocke over x-23 I'd say. She does x-23 job but just for a single turn. But it helps get the knull into arnim play down for turns 5 and 6. She also helps negative come down a turn earlier if you play her on 2. For nico just likely any good negative card, Nova or some other generally good 1 drop. I'm not exactly a pro but watch and play and think on the game a lot. To me they'd make the most sense and what I'd end up doing.
Honestly I don’t think I would recommend this specific deck without those two cards. If you don’t have either I would just go for a more traditional Negative deck without the destroy angle at that point. Take out the Carnage and Venom with Iron Heart and another 0 power card
@peterkefalos7430 that was legit the sentence I deleted LOL I was like they seem kinda integral but I'm sure people get told that all the time when asking for replacements so instead I opted to give some replacement options possibly but ya x23 in particular seems like pretty key. Nico I can see not being SUPER needed but still pretty nice to have as if you get her draw 2 after negative or even without negative it's a lot of help towards getting the arnim and knull combo going.
Came for the deck, stayed for the hair
That’s what she said
😂😂
How long would you braid it for if you could?
Opposite for me
Damn, this thumb should be a venom variant
Anti Venom as a card/Variant would be really great !
@@lholocron
Anti-Venom is probably coming in October, a bunch of symbiotes are datamined.
@@PenitusVoxprobably a symbiote season for Venom 3
At 19:03, wouldn't knull and mystique middle be waaaaay better at +30 power instead of 17 just for knull after carnage eats the widow's bite? Titan reduced Knull's cost and you had 8 energy to spend.
Yea, saw he missed that play
Snapping with a bunch of rocks in hand... Ben Brode just saluted you somewhere.
This was my favourite deck back when Darkhawk was a 4/0 because he got discounted by Ravonna and old Zabu, and could get eaten by Venom to boost Knull.
My brain screamed so loud when you didn't give the opponent your Mister Negative with Castle Zemo lmao 😂 especially since they had a zoo deck lmao
Lol same
Not as much upside as tarnax though
Wait, this is unreal. I just realized that you used to write about [redacted] stuff on some niche blogs years ago. Holy crap, what a small world. Much love ❤️
This is true in 3 different contexts, hahaha. I'm curious which one you mean.
@@RegisKillbinI think there's a reason why there is an action figure in your background. I, too, was a fan of it. Not collecting it, but watching and reading reviews. I think it was a decade ago when my UA-cam account was created. Is this true? I don't want to go into much detail as this is the internet.
@@alifnaufal I did write about action figures for a while. I don't remember doing any videos or really featuring my face too much though, so I'm surprised you'd recognize me.
@@RegisKillbin LMAO. Man, keep doing what you're doing. Love your stuff!
Oh, and what I meant is that I just loved watching and reading toy reviews in general back then. I was rewatching your old HotS content and checked a few articles for old times' sake. One of the articles mentioned by your *name*, and I knew deep down that you also wrote toy reviews. I realized I had saved a bunch of them, including a few written by you. This is a wild coincidence-you don't know how surprised I was realizing that I had been looking up your reviews after all this time.
@@alifnaufal Haha, yeah that all tracks! Thanks for supporting me across 3 different lives, hahaha. The only thing you seemed to have missed is when I covered College Basketball for a while.
Yeah I'm ngl this deck just looks even more inconsistent and just, more of a struggle than typical negative
The only acceptable name for this deck is anti-venom.
He probably didn't wanna name the video that though since Anti Venom will eventually have a card, possibly this October with some other Symbiotes.
I've been playing essentially this exact deck for months and no one expected it. Time for that to end 😭
Oh well, hope you guys have fun with it, it's a blast.
I love your videos. Have you tried winning with weird autocomplete decks? Would love to watch that
19:07 should've played knull mystique but a win is a win lol
In game 2 playing magik mid guaranteed flipping it to mr neg. The only thing that changed that was your opponent stealing the last card in your deck. You still won either way, just a note on how you thought through the turn.
Was literally searching for this comment😂
The game at 23:12. He would've won if he arnim'd the beta ray bill then stormbreaker anywhere and ironman right
That Nocturne into Deaths Domain. 😅
17:54 ...(MYSTIQUE + KNULL =30POWER , left,or mid ) 😢😢. 21:47 ... Noo 😢😡 (Iron man + arnim + stormbreaker) . 😢😡
love regis' hair but i prefer the deck
wtf was that last game? I feel a lot, but I have no idea what any of it is.
The negative rocks were too powerful they scared the opponent away
Aw, who remembers 0 power venom? I used to play them in negative knull all the time. They killed my boy by buffing him, so its cool to see that its good enough again.
Im currently hovering around 601 collection level. I have been experimenting with destroy and discard but I cant wait to get access to all these fun looking cards!!
Some of these are Series4/ 5 cards, you´ll prob. (if you´re unlucky) never get this cards without paying ...
@@Blashe-bi3io ahhh I see..
“..I’m so excited and happy that they have that..” 😂
23:00 You can Zola that negative Iron Man from the right. That'll pump up your middle and left.
I was hoping I wasn't the only one.
Then add storm breaker for free 😭
Nothing better than a bluff snap win
yes venom and carnage were used in an old variant of Negative decks. I used them when darkhawk and zabu were meta. So i just ate them and then Knull + zola
I just feel like no matter what I try to play I’m missing atleast one card to make that deck actually good. Mid game is very frustrating.
what card are you missing?
Been running a slightly more optimized version of this for the past 5 months, hit infinite day 1 or day 2 every season with this.
Share the deck?
@TheMichaelKoss with jane foster
Carnage - Revona - Venom - Mystique - Magik - Crystal - Killmonger (Can be rogue if you see mobius a lot) - Mister Negative - Shang Chi - Jane Foster - Knull - Zola
If you want a different kinda line, swap Jane Foster with Nico.
I used to run lady deathstrike and yondu, but those are too weak now.
And negative hit is cool but NOT needed for your win condition if you always have 1 destroy lane, 1 revona lane, 1 empty lane to hit zola knull finisher.
@@klovrockjaw4468 thanks I’ll check it out :) appreciate the breakdown as well
38:48 I can't believe a Surfer deck is looking at Mr. Negative and folded with Shaw Wong and Mystique on the board. They had to have 4 rocks in hand. There is no way😂😂😂😂
Nobody ever runs from my bluff snaps I always lose 8😂😂😂. I genuinely can't believe they had Wong Mystique onboard WITH PRIORITY and left
Came for the deck…
Made the deck…
RNG was against me…
Horrible lands, opponents always had the right cards (super skill/tribunal), draw Mr. Neg or magic the turn after I could use them, retreated and lost 15 cubes in total.
I love how you misplayed Magik, but because their Cable stole your Mr Negative, you never noticed that you would have lost 8 points mid.
Around 10:00
Nice deck ! At my level (72) I replaced Nico by super Skrull. There are so many iron man/ knull around, it alowed mle to get some very big numbers
the last game was hilarious with the negative rocks
Im a negative destroy enjoyer, i use shang instead of Nico for tech, people dont expect this kind of combination and u can steal cubes with random knull mystique without playing neg
4 of my 5 infinite runs have been with a few different versions of this deck. Its gives you the most obvious snap or retreat conditions. Something I ran into a lot was getting a negatived jane on turn 5, and not being able to play her, but mobius helps with that, so I put him in the newest version, and I got rid of magik, because nocturne is everywhere killing turn sevens left and right.
Mill decks are actually such a cancer. I’m not even complaining cuz there hard to beat, I actually rarely lose to them I just get annoyed everytime lol
I used to play a version of this deck with bast and Deadpool and it was pretty consistent because even if you never drew the negative you still had the big Deadpool to really on
Yeah, I play the same deck, with Killmonger instead of Ravonna as well. It seems much more consistent than this version since you have a strong Destroy deck even when things don't go perfectly with the Negative plan. I don't see the point in the ramp, either, since all you really need is a single Knull or Arnim to be flipped.
Super skrull is such a slept on card in mister negative decks
Someone played this against me in conquest yesterday and I made them eat dirt in two rounds with Loki lol. Definitely a sick list though
I think if you put wong and try to somehow do a mystique + arnem combo would be quite killer making null a massive card
My brain screamed when he played carnage and then knull, granted he still got the win but he had 8 energy and could have copied the knull with mystique
I'm glad I am not the only one who just hates annoying cards like Widow, Iceman, Scorpion, etc
19:05 not to back seat game but knull mystique ?
That's what I was shouting at the screen 😂
9:58 I think the play is Zola Jane Foster, Iron Man, Mystique, Knull. Not sure though
I don't like this one bit! It's unnatural and it got me on the ladder...came to see if it was here and lo and behold 😂
Loved this deck and specially the last game, it's totally what I do in those situations LOL
So many people are afraid at infinite ladder and I really don't know why. It doesn't mean much to lose or win (for me at least) at infinite.
That said, I'd love to see you play a deck with cards you don't play. Try to make a deck with Makkari, Angel and MBaku, maybe to keep at concept (not exactly, but to make it not only meme) Brood, Winter Soldier, Mockingbird, Sentry, Sersi, the widows... Lots of cards you don't play or benefit from not playing. What do you think?
I play a ton of negative destroy. Nobody believes the power you can put out on the final turn.
Blame the junk deck; they make this deck risen up. Carnage and Venom is just good at cleaning up board space... and for Negative decks that relied on powerful effect like Arnim Zola, you need some sort of board cleaner anyway.
@23:09 them rolling their one drop into ebony maw was the only roll that would win the game how unlucky 💀
I wish we could get a shuffle back into the deck archetype, even if its random, and the bonuses are +power to the cards shuffled or -cost, or not bonus at all and just a cheap big lad with a shuffle cost. I just want my boy m'baku to be gigantic when he jumps out, a legit fnaf jumpscare with a 1/10 dude sniping a location at the end of the game. And it could help the mr negative decks even if the +power or -cost would be a negative.
18:40 why gou dont play knull and mystic? its more value than carnage and knull?
I’m playing similar deck without nico & x23 but with shuri Nimrod, super consistent with or without mr.-ve on hand, grandmaster is crazy good in this too
I wish i could enjoy Mr Negative but 9 times out of 10 whenever I try my negative decks, my high cost cards start in my hand and Negative is no where to be found.
Why didn’t he play iron man mid, storm breaker right them zola the storm breaker
s h u l l b o y s
I made this deck been using it forever I must have whooped you lol
Man I love symbiote decks. Venom is my favorite marvel villain which is why I play destroy a bunch. Same with Wolverine and Deadpool.
18:50 couldn’t he just knull into mystique for more power?
When Nocturne chooses violence...
is there any card that i can use beside x-23?, i don't have the card
Why didnt Quantum tunnel bring out Mr Negative at 10:58 ?
Cable took mister negative so there are no cards in his deck
So excited to see a revised deck of Venom Negative, used to be my main climbing and conquest deck until the lockdown horror meta
One of my favorite decks ever actualy is a Negative Deadpool one with the whole destroy package! Def gotta try this one
decklist takes me to Makkari midnight dump. Source goes to the right decklist.
At 10:55 why didn't Magik go into Quantum Tunnel and swap with Negative?
@@djrez782 Ahh, thank you knew I had to have missed something. The deck tracker doesn't show that for whatever reason.
Is it just me or did I have more fun and win more when everyone wasn’t playing surfer
I made that same deck but took out Nico and put in Spider-Ham for disruption.
Hit infinite with this deck today, loads of fun!
Wow you used almost all my favorite cards in a deck how have I never tried this before
Mr. Negative affecting Venom is kinda a thing in the comics, so I guess it makes sense
Replice net for X23? Have all except her 😢
even nerfed leech is a feels bad card.
Negative Venom is one of the sickest thumbnails in your incredibly sick catalogue of thumbnails. Awesome.
Ohhhh. .. this is why I've been facing this deck for the past 20 games.
You have the wrong deck list on the first link, is the last one you posted
I have actually run this deck before a long time ago just without Nico and x-23 and instead Shuri and Nimrod (when nimrod was 5/5)
Oh and (old) Zaby instead of Ravonna
This video was a yoink fest.
That last play was genius 😅😅😅
great video with suuuper interesting play lines!
Are you planning on doing another Sersi deck?
Wrong deck list in description
is it impossible to play this without Ravonna?
Regis, deck list is linked to the wrong deck.
The deaths domain! ahh man lol
Legendary win with that t6 carnage zola game 😂
I don't have Nico..,
Last game was literally Jotaro vs D’arby
blink or mockingbird for 6k
35:36 Classic nocturne😂
Dawg I LOVE negative decks I needed a new one
the deaths domain at the end was soo tragic 😭
Yo this could be fun
I dont have nico and x-23 what should i replace with?😢
Psylocke over x-23 I'd say. She does x-23 job but just for a single turn. But it helps get the knull into arnim play down for turns 5 and 6. She also helps negative come down a turn earlier if you play her on 2. For nico just likely any good negative card, Nova or some other generally good 1 drop. I'm not exactly a pro but watch and play and think on the game a lot. To me they'd make the most sense and what I'd end up doing.
@@VictorianGenetix thanks bud 🫡
Honestly I don’t think I would recommend this specific deck without those two cards. If you don’t have either I would just go for a more traditional Negative deck without the destroy angle at that point. Take out the Carnage and Venom with Iron Heart and another 0 power card
@peterkefalos7430 that was legit the sentence I deleted LOL I was like they seem kinda integral but I'm sure people get told that all the time when asking for replacements so instead I opted to give some replacement options possibly but ya x23 in particular seems like pretty key. Nico I can see not being SUPER needed but still pretty nice to have as if you get her draw 2 after negative or even without negative it's a lot of help towards getting the arnim and knull combo going.
Bast and Deadpool (I don't use Ravonna in it either)
Commenting for the algorithm also sick deck
Thanks for the video and the deck.
Nico replacement?
I need knull darn it
What can I replace nico with?
crazy noob deck
SO powerful ❤
Why do you hate variants?