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Mitsubishi Mirage CVT Fluid And Filter Service. Do this Every 20 to 40K to keep your CVT Mirage A-OK
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- NOTE: Final check should be done with the engine running and the car in park. Top off as needed.
I plan on keeping my Mirage on the road for at least 250K. As a result, I take good care of it. Spend a little now, and then, and not a lot then. This job is easy to do in a driveway, and although you should really check the fluid level with the temp hot, a 20 minute drive should bring you close enough to make sure everything is good. NOTE: Final check should be done with the engine running and the car in park. Top off as needed.
I have apparently added some confusion to this video so let me say that the final fluid level check should be with the transmission fluid at full operating temp (180F). When checking, the car should be running, in park and on level ground.
So do we have to go through the level checking process? Or just how much fluid do we need to add to the transmission?
@@nicolasjchaanine you MUST do the final check. Get it close as you can, then drive it at least 30 minutes to get the fluid to temp. Then park it on level ground and with the engine running in park, do your final fluid check/adjustment. To low and the transmission will starve, to high and the transmission will get air bubbles in it causing issues.
I get a d error code. From what I can find that is a transmission filter error code. There is some mansion in the comments of another screen inside the pan. Do you have another video showing to replace or clean that screen in the pan?
I work at a Mitsubishi and ive recently had to change a transmission for a Mirage sedan at around 50k miles. 2 reasons why it failed: Customer neglected it, the fluid was gray and had a burnt smell. On top of that, my work does NOT automatically recommend/include in the service package replacement that external filter or the filter in the pan. No matter how many times i ask them to do so, the advisors dont. Why? Because they WANT your transmissions to fail in warranty because of the commission they get from it. I want ALL Mitsu owners to know how quick and easy it is, that way they dont need to have their cars stuck in service for a week over something that was completely avoidable
Man, that is hard to hear. I work in the industry and came across companies like that. Sucks.
Hey bro, checking how many liters do you usually fill up if both 2 filters (metal strainer and paper filter) were replaced?
Hey buddy do you have a part number for the filter
I just got off the phone with a parts guy at a local dealer, and he discouraged me from buying or changing the filters.
@@Juxtaminute Did he say why?
I found your videos looking up how to service my girlfriend's car (2014 w/80k), and I gotta say that you are a fantastic teacher, and these are extremely helpful. Thanks for putting these out into the world!
Wow, thanks! It is comments like this that make me want to do more-
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs I plan on purchasing a used Mirage @ 20k miles. Should I have the dealership do this service or hold off on it? Car was considered a "fleet" vehicle, so I think it maybe a good idea or can I wait till 30k miles? I plan on keeping the car till right around 80-100k miles, but do want to not worry about any issues during my ownership. Thanks.
Hi Eric, thank you so much for the video. I have just changed my cvt transmission fluid at 21000 miles. I followed closely to all your steps and it was a success and it was so satisfying after that. Thank you once again for the very helpful video.😊
No problem! Did you make sure to double check the level one last time with the car fully warmed up and in park while running? If not, it's a good idea to do so. Just to be sure.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. Your video guided me through my first transmission fluid change and saved me $300.
Glad it helped, these days saving ever dollar helps
Yes there is another filter in the pan and magnets that collect debris- the full service involves removing the pan and replacing the sump filter and cleaning the pan, replacing the gasket: a job that involves more oil
Yes. That job will get done at 40K. every 20 a fill and filter and every 40 a pan drop too!
Wow! That does look easy and a lot of savings. I just bought a 2020 Mirage with 40K miles. I will do this immediately. I really wanted the manual shift but they are impossible to find. Keep up with the Mirage content. I already watched the oil change / routine maintenance video from a year or two ago. Your new haircut looks good.
Glad it helped! The manual trans are going away after 2023- such a shame
Just got done changing my fluid on 2019 mirage g4, this video was perfect and super helpful, thank you for making it. Everything in this video is correct.
Great to hear! May your Mirage last you generations!
Great video, 👍 different job than most, not a lot of CVT videos available, especially Mitsubishi Great information 👍
Glad it was helpful!
I have one of these cars, although mine is a 5 speed. The entire car is made so that it can be maintained with basic tools by normal people, it's refreshing.
Agreed. That's why I bought it! After nearly 30 years as a mechanic, I took one look at this cars design and knew it would be reliable and easy to maintain. A+
this video helps a ton. mine is at 50k miles now and i’ve experienced slipping in the cvt. i’m gonna do this asap on mine so it can hopefully last as i need it to.
You got this! If yours is slipping, you may want to consider dropping that bottom pan to clean out the bottom filter as well.
Great video! There is however another filter in the pan.I have a 2015 Mirage. 320,000 miles on the CVT. Only did the service once at about 100 000. Dumb luck that it lasted this long.
Wow! That is great to hear. I hope to get 300k out of mine as well.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairskay I have a crazy question ❓ mechanic wants to charge me $240.... I don't have that. I also don't have the tools or know anybody that could help. I know that my vehicle needs transmission fluid.... Can I carefully add fluid down the transmission fluid dipstick thingy ❓ yeah I know it's a crazy thought... I'm on a limited income... And I'm not mobile enough to get underneath the vehicle and back up😂... Would doing that screw everything up.... Or buy me a couple weeks to raise the funds ❓ it's a 2019 Mitsubishi mirage... I bought it used, and I know I've put 35000 miles on it.
@@juliec9 find a frend who can and giv him maybe 100$ just for d labor.. 🤔
Now that's what I call a clean and detailed service. Great video content also.
I really wanted to take my time on making it, people should know that they can do these kinds of service without having to go to a dealer.
Wow what a nice new intro! Looking good! Good to see that Mitsubishi actually includes a transmission dipstick..So, many manufacturers have stopped!
I've been toying with a new intro for the past 2 years now. This one isn't final, but I am glad you liked it!
What's interesting is that this CVT is also used in the Nissan Versa and in that car there's no dipstick!
Got this job done thanks to you! Really appreciate that!
I decided to take the whole shield off in my tire well because I can't STAND not having access to areas I'm trying to work.
Thank you again!
I used to take more off when doing repairs, but the mechanic in me likes to do things faster.
Kudo to Mitsubishi for having such easily accessible filter for the CVT.
Agreed. They made this car for people that like to work on cars.
Aamco does a good job servicing CVTs. For the Mirage its about $250. They use OEM fluid, clean out the drop pan magnets, and change the filter. This is much better than just the drain and fill a Mitsu dealer does for $300. I recommend doing the fluid every 30 to 40k miles and changing the filter out every 70k miles or so. I understand Fairpoint doing his every 20k miles though, driving in Appalachia will put a serious strain on any transmission or brakes.
If you are lurking here and thinking about getting a Mirage, this is a fantastic tutorial. Don't listen to assholes who've never owned a Mitsubishi and are just shit posting because their CVT in their Altima died at 50k miles. You're typical Nissan owner will do fuck all in terms of CVT preventative maintenance, 10k mile oil changes, and not even bother to change out the paper plates they're still rocking. Mitsubishi and Suzuki and have no where near the amount of premature CVT failure with JATCOs that Nissan does.
Thanks for the kind words, as well as the words of truth!
Apakah CVT Mirage sama dengan CVT Nissa jatco
@@anakmbarep92 you sound like Jar Jar Binks and yes, we're well aware both Mitsubishi and Nissan uses their own spec versions of the CVT7 with some small differences like programming and the Mitsu version having a dipstick.
Nissan altima is way too heavy for this transmission. No wonder they're blowing out at 50k.
@philhubb5885 IIRC the Altima has the CVT8, slightly bigger than the Mirage's CVT7. I had a 99' Altima for a few years. It's reliability was OK, no engine problems or issues with its 4speed auto trans, but it had annoying electrical issues after 100k miles.
When it comes to the CVT fluid color, it looks nice and clean up to to about 40k. After that it gets dark and dirty very quickly.
That’s why it’s important to do drain and refills every 20-30k, especially if you are doing a lot of city driving.
Thanks for the info! City driving can put a ton of wear on a car-
Yes, this car is actually incredibly easy to wrench on. BTW you might wanna pull down the pan because there's another filter in there. But I'm really surprised they made the serviceability on this extremely easy. Working on this feels like working on one of my 20 year, 25year old cars. It's funny, my dad bought one of the cars with the most horse power available in this country. And I bought the least horse power modern car. And you gotta get it in Inferno Red (it goes 10mph faster :p)
Red makes any car faster! I agree the simple design reminds me of older basic rides from the 90's. Love it!
Here I am back about 10 months later. The bolt is 12 mm for the wheel shield and this time I took it off. I also filed the six sides to I could get the socket on easier. Slow and steady. I should have use some oil BEFORE removing it BUT it came off. I DID anti-size it for easier removal next time. I did not bother replacing the o ring on for the filter since it is less then a year old and about 10 K miles. I did remove the bottom plastic shield to make it easier and cleaner to remove the 19mm bolt. Will keep an eye on it. Thanks for the video. FYI I used trans fluid from the dealer.
Glad to hear you are keeping up with the CVT! These are great cars for sure.
Great video! I found that replacing the filter cap was in deed a little tricky at first. I put just a little grease around the O ring and edge of the cavity which helped a lot and the cap practically went in by itself. Be gentile! I am hopeful that with regular maintenance the transmission will last a long time.
Good tip! Thanks!!
Thanks for the great videos. I just bought a 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage G4 thanks to watching your videos on them. I love it. It’s a great car!
Glad to help, these cars get such a bad wrap- they are the perfect car
Thanks, good video. I never replace drain plug washers. I coat the threads with wheel bearing grease. Have never had a leak in decades.
Thanks for sharing, Never heard of that trick.
Thank you for the video and your sharing. Really appreciate it. I hope to try it soon. 👍👍👍👍👍
You are welcome
Excellent video! You explain things clearly, thoroughly, and at a nice pace. Thanks for the info.
Glad it was helpful! Comments like this is why I keep making videos
just be carefull your unit might have another filter in the pan so you have to replace it too.
100%😊
A very professional presentation. Does doing it yourself and not having a record of the dealer performing the change at required intervals VOID the power train warranty? And if I read the schedule correctly these Mirage engines require old fashioned manual valve adjustments every 30,000 miles. Do you agree?
keep your receipts for the CVT fluid and filter and document the job when it's done (miles and date). Mirage valve adjustment is a thing, but it's supposed to be checked every 30K. It turns out to adjust them is a VERY hard job. It has manual shim type adjustments and the shims are built into the buckets. That means removing the camshaft to make adjustments. I was shocked to find this out.
For maximum longevity...you should also change the pan filter, and, once you refill the pan, hook a funnel up to the fill tube, leave off the aux filter cap and filter, place a bucket under it, and then you can start the car, and keep adding new CVT fluid until all the old crap is flushed from the system and you can see the fresh stuff coming out of the aux area into the bucket...
put in the new filter, replace the aux cap and filter...THEN recheck all your levels.
Now you don't still have 1/2 the old CVT oil, contaminating the new, you just put in.
The idea behind the drain and fill/ pan drop/ drain and fill every 20K/40K is that your fluid never gets nasty in the first place. It's only a 7.5 quart system and every 20K it gets almost 3. Every 40K it gets just under 5.
I work in a mitsu service center. 20k-40k is a great area. We personally do them every 30k with a fuel treatment as well on all our mirages/outlanders/lancers/etc
Sorry I’m commenting as I watch lol. The part number for the washer is MD050317 I believe, and we also replace the internal filter. That I don’t know the part number for. But great video bud
Thanks!
For the Mitshubishi Tech: I plan on purchasing a used Mirage @ 20k miles. Should I have the dealership do this service or hold off on it? Car was considered a "fleet" vehicle, so I think it maybe a good idea or can I wait till 30k miles? I plan on keeping the car till right around 80-100k miles, but do want to not worry about any issues during my ownership. Thanks!
@@dbzownz12345 having a good reputable shop (regardless of specialty) is never a bad idea. Fleet vehicles are generally well kept, just keep this in mind, tires every 40-60k brakes 45-50k, cvt every 30k (this is from my own notes so it may vary a bit) coolant flush & brake fluid flush around each 60k spark plugs and fuel treatment every 100k (unless you do the FT with every trans serv) but in all honesty, do a bit of research on the shop you plan to go to, read reviews. A good shop will see you as more than a stack of cash
@@dbzownz12345 I forgot to add. When going to a dealership ask for a MPI (multi point inspection) most dealers will do them for very little to no cost.
Been going back and forth on weather or not to pay a shop to do this for me. Would not have guessed there was two filters.
You totally got this! DIY and keep the other $350 for food!
I had just come across your channel a couple of days ago, and I'm truly impressed with the fantastic and entertaining information.
My daughter is about to purchase a new mirage and really appreciated seeing your wife's video.(My daughter Tanya would like her to make more).
One thing big that I'm surprised with is the difference in the offerings between Mitsubishi Canada and Mitsubishi USA. I've read that for the 2022 year, the 5 speed ES model is difficult to find, and is no longer available for the year 2023, but in Canada, there is no issue getting the 5 speed manual in both the 2022 model and is the what you get with a base ES for the 2023 model!
What has me puzzled is the fact that in the States, Mitsubishi has the cruse control available with the 5 speed manual, and in Canada, if you want cruse control, you are obligated to get the CVT transmission.
I had just read in a Mirage forum that the States got cruse control, and Canada got day-time running lights.
I am always amazed at what other countries get for options that we don't. In American the car manufactures are pushing bloated SUV's and large trucks, when most people really don't need ones that big. I wish that we could get the smaller versions like all the other countries.
Us gets the cvt because it gives better fuel economy numbers. That’s why.
@jo
I don't disagree with your logic, but at the same time, I'm interested in what your response is to Canadian models getting both daytime running lights and fog lights as standard equipment on all models but can only get the accident mitigation camera system on the top trim. It's a good little car, and my daughter loves it, but when the ES model comes with no electric doorlocks and only the front doors have electric windows, with the back being manual, hand crank down windows, it screams "small town cheap to me," and besides that, I would think that it would be considered a safety issue for the driver not being able to control the back windows in an emergency situation. Cruse control and heated seats aren't even an option in the ES model here. Cruse is available here with the SE model, but for the heated seats, you can only get that in the top trim. I wonder if the Canadian model comes pre-wired for heated seats and Cruse control?
One popular add-on that Canadian ES owners get is the armrest from Amazon because the armrest is not even an option here, nor is the console in the base trim, which doesn't even give you a place to put the switches for the heated seats if the seats were wired for heat to start with.
I'm just happy to say that I live a 40-minute drive to the border to the States and just another 25-minute drive after that to get to a Mitsubishi dealership where Mitsubishi original add-ons like mudflaps, are available at a reasonable price compared to the house payment that it would cost me for the same thing from our dealership. I really like the car to start with, even with its short commings in Canada. My husband ordered an ES for me with a CVT transmission that will be arriving in a week or 2, which I'm looking forward to.
There was a check fill bolt on the side of the transmission behind the wheel, just below the filter, and the dipstick/fill location. If you open that, a small amount of fluid may run out. Allow it to until it stops (after the vehicle is up to temp).
Thanks for sharing that
Is this a step that needs to be done?
@@jfu6113 It’s the best way to ensure the proper fluid level.
The lowest amount of miles I've read involving CVT failure for the Mirage, was around 100k miles. That is extremely rare though, even with or without CVT fluid changes. That couple in Minnesota who got 400k miles out of their Mirage didn't mention anything about servicing their CVT, only oil changes, so like anything, in the end its up to the car gods how many miles you get, but doing this type of servicing greatly puts the odds in your favor of netting 200k miles.
Makes me wonder what the unit that died at 100K was used for.
The CVT started acting up on my 2014 Mirage around 40k miles. I did have the fluid changed at 30k at the dealership. The car was lurching/lugging really badly at low RPMs. I've seen this issue with other Mirages as well. There's actually a vid somewhere on youtube of someone doing a hard acceleration run in their Mirage and it was acting the same way.
My aunt’s 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage has 184k miles on it and she’s changed the oil every 5k mi and the cvt fluid every 20k mi since she bought it new. She got herself a brand new 2022 Mirage G4 for herself and gave her old mirage as my cousins first car. That thing has never failed her once. Not one break down except for one time she ran out of gas. Oh and one time her tire blew. But overall a great car.
@@rocketshiftgaming5693 Awesome. I like my wife's G4 better than my hatchback Mirage lol.
Mitsubishi made some changes to the CVT around 2017
It’s the older ones that seem to have the problem.
I change my CVT fluid every 30K with Amsoil CVT fluid
It cost a little more but is the best CVT fluid on the market
Lubricates better and has a much higher life span
It also has a much higher flash point
The inline filter is important to change also
The one in the pan is not that important if you are doing regular fluid changes.
I’m happy with my 2018 outlander sport Se
I have not had one problem
Not even a light bulb.
The Mirage is a great car! I like it! Good video too!
Thanks sir!
I have a 2017 mirage se model and it has been the best car I have ever owned.
@@travisk1556 👍👍👍
Very thorough and professional. Subbed!
Thanks and welcome!
I will be performing this on the 2023 G4 in a couple days.
Good luck! Make sure that the very final fluid check is done when the fluid is fully warmed up, and the car is running in park. Mine ended up needing an additional 1/3rd quarter after all the other checks.
Love your channel and still visit your geo metro forum from time to time.
Best car that most American don't want! That is the Mirage eveybody! It is reliable, it is tough in a way, but it is like a short ugly man in real life that nobody even wants to see past beyond the skin deep "exciting"
Agreed. People here have forgotten what everyone in the 80's remembers. Good cheap efficient cars are great!
Thanks Eric the REOF11A in the Nissan look very simple for parts
Good to know!
How did you effortlessly plug in that new filter??? I can't press it in to save my life!!!
That is the mechanic in me- 30+ years of working on cars, I have learned some things. Patience is one of them
@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs Fortunately I figured it out. LoL
Nissan owners watch this channel. Your car or CUV has the same JATCO CVT MFG. This will help you too. The Nissan Juke, Versa Note, and Cube also has a JATCO CVT7 like the Mirage. Almost the same minus different programming.
Good point!
Really like your intro Eric 👍💯
Thanks for the video.
Thanks 👍
I believe you should pull the pan, because there are two magnets inside that will be covered with metal filings and you should clean those off.
That is the plan at 40K.
I ran the car around and then change the small filter and dumped the fluid. I ended up at the top line of high for the level with about 2.5 quarts. I could not get the 13mm bolt off the bottom for the driver tire shield BUT I was able to get around it to change the small filter. I did put a dab of anti seize on the 10 mm bolt. 2015 Mirage ES with 87 K miles. I think the plastic body pins are 8mm.
Great to hear!
Saw some tiny bubbles on the stick so I pulled out a bit. Now in the middle of H after removing 1/4 of a qt. Thanks for the video.
You should leave the sump plug out until you have changed the filter,,Because when you take the old one out there is a vacume that holds some of the old oil in,,so drain the old oil take the oil filter out and let the trans drain for 10 mins,,then put the new filter in and sump plug,,
Thanks for the tip
You can get the auxiliary filter off without taking the wheel well out, especially if you’re stronger than a 130 lb woman (aka me). I didn’t have jack stands at the time so it took me like an hour of pulling and twisting on it trying to find the right spot to get it out. Anyone stronger than me can do it easily. Also, I didn’t replace the O-ring on the housing and it hasn’t leaked in the 20,000 miles since I changed the fluid 🤷🏻♀️
Great to know! I would still recommend that you do the O-ring though.
My problem is solved : I have the 5 speed manual .But if I would have bought with the cvt I might have added a transmission oil cooler which seems to be Jatco's solution on their recent cvt gearbox model
This does come with a small cooler if I remember correctly, but the weight of the Mirage is 1000 pounds less than the other models that are using it and having issues. I think it's that more than anything that is killing them in Nissans.
yeah I wouldn't buy an NV200 to run a plumbing business.@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs
The Mirage already has a transmission cooler. And it is light and can't tow more than 250 kg. So Mitsubishi is on the safe side here. The CVT won't break on this car.
Update on my mirage: I changed the CVT fluid and aux filter at 21k miles. The drain plug had a copper washer, but upon scouring the web I found the part number. Part number: 2705A012. I ordered it from Mitsubishi and it stated A/T drain plug gasket. Upon arrival, it was NOT copper. It was a washer similar to what Toyota uses for their engine oil drain plug, metal washer with a felt like material on both sides.
I removed the copper washer and added the washer I ordered from Mitsubishi. No leaks at all. As Eric stated in the video, Mitsubishi changes their parts a lot.
They do indeed! Thanks for the tips!
They certainly do indeed change a lot. Thanks for the tips!
That's good info to have. My 2018 Mirage is a 5-speed but my wife wants a new Mirage and all the local dealers are only bringing in G4's with CVT transmissions. I also have a 2016 Chevy Spark that I bought new and the dealer refused to do a CVT fluid change at the recommended interval. I thought it was just them being weird but none of the local Chevy dealers will do a CVT fluid change on a Spark at any mileage. Apparently they know something about that CVT in the Spark that I don't and maybe don't want to know.
No doubt. If it was maintained and still failed, you have a cause to complain. Please if you plan on keeping it, do the service at home!
My wife and I daily a 17 Spark w/CVT. Love the darn thing, but finding info to drain/refill is very difficult. I'm trying to gather info to do it myself, so doing my homework now.
Very well done video. Thanks for sharing.
Glad I could help!
Awesome explanation, thank you!
You're very welcome!
You should do the pan drop evry 2 or 3 because the magnets in the pan get full of metal and then makes the filter gasket life mich much lower
Agreed. I do a drain and fill every 20,000 and a pan drop every 40,000.
This video was informative but in my opinion you should make another one showing the correct way to check the final level. You just told people to turn the engine off on a jatco cvt7 when checking
the final level and that’s wrong. If people don’t check your notes and try to do this job to save some money then there going to seriously mess there cvt up because the levels when the car is running and when it’s off is completely different. Please be more careful with your videos. Thank you for your effort in trying to help us regardless!
I'm not sure what else I can say. The final check should be done with the fluid at 180 degrees and the car running and in park on a flat surface.
Watching from Philippines, great video
Thank you sir!
Very informative video and im going to drop the pan as well
Good luck!
i got the 1.2 engine and i gotta say that was a bitch to get the oil filter can in and or out, but luckily there was a starter shield under the can so non got onto the starter, but it also got heavily in the way and got a bunch of old oil everywhere getting it out.
One would hope that the dealership would take as much care and attention to detail as you. Somehow I doubt it.
You would be correct. Flat rate kills quality. 95% of mechanics are stuck in flat rate and as a result, they are compelled to cut every corner.
I spoke with my local certified transmission and they doubled down that you have to drop the transmission for the filter change, no wonder these cats blow up, none of the shops are changing the filter!
That is incorrect. The screen (Filter) is located just inside the transmission pan. No special tools needed.
Nice video, looks easy .
This service is not too hard to do, just take your time
I have a 2015 mirage CVT transmission 55k miles, and it fun to drive...Small car with big power.. the cvt is very tough,
my wife and I both enjoy ours- hers is a 5 speed and it is great
You should lube the rubber seal on the filter and the one on the filter cap,,
Good tip, thanks
thanks to you .... great video its informative.. i can do it my own mirage..
Glad to hear it
How come you didn't change the main (large) filter, inside the pan?
It's not a filter, it's a screen. If that get's trash in it, your CVT is toast! the screen cleaning is done every 40K to 60K, the drain and fill with side filter is ever 20K to 30K.
You make this look easy enough for someone who's never worked on cars to do.
I'm buying a 2024 Mirage hatch this week and have been researching the in's and out's of it's maitenance.
Love how there is actually a dip stick! Cars don't seem to have them nowadays.
I do have a question. As someone who's never worked on cars, and this being my first NEW car, do I just keep receipts to verify guenuine parts for the warrenty? Or do I actually have to have a certified machanic do the work?
Might be a dumb question for some but, I'm a firm believer in asking when you don't know.
Yes! I would totally track the work you've done to the car incase there is even an issue and maintenance comes into question. That is what I do here.
That said, these are VERY reliable cars and your new one should last you a very long time with just the basics.
Thank You!@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs
Maybe every 40,000 miles it would be a good idea to drop the pan and wipe it out and clean off the magnet too.
That is my thought as well. Do the cartridge and fluid every 20 and the cartridge, screen and fluid every 40. Time will tell.
Great video but I’m pretty sure the service manual says to check the fluid with the engine running …
Yes, after the car is driven up to temp, the final fluid check should be done with the car running on flat ground. Make sure the temp is at 180f.
Thank you! This is an important distinction. My level went from nearly the top of hot to the bottom or cold with 2.3
Would everything in this video apply to a basic 2021 mirage G4 4 door sedan. It's not a CVT that's why I ask... Please let me know
Just bought a 2024 G4 I hope it’s a good car reliability wise, my dad thinks it’s the worst decision of my life and I’d be better off buying a car for around 5k that has 150k on it but I beg to differ I’ve done my research I can’t find any used so people must like them and they must last I get it’s a mitsu so the resale isn’t a Toyota but it’s not a YOTA for a reason🤷🏽♂️
Did you see the article that ranked the 2024 Mirage as the best car to buy?Here's a snip it:The 2024 Mitsubishi Mirage has a predicted reliability score of 80 out of 100. A J.D. Power predicted reliability score of 91-100 is considered the Best, 81-90 is Great, 70-80 is Average and 0-69 is Fair and considered below average.
Very similar to my Suzuki Swift Sport trans. JF015E
Good to know. Thanks!
Looking a bit lighter on your feet Erik, l hope you are feeling that benefit, after rarely sharing in the past how hard you have worked your body?👍
I am slowly recovering from some... "Internal" issues. I am setup to have some of my own "Parts" removed here shorty, and I have no doubt that after I am done, I'll be nearly back to my old self, except the 50lbs I've lost. I don't miss those 50lbs!
Just think a 300 dollar tranny service at a shop could save you thousands on the long run I have a 98 s10 with extremely high miles but the tranny is still going strong cuz I service it every 40k still has original power steering pump as well just and master cylinder just proves changing fluids saves money
Don't forget to clean the magnet on the drain bolt folks.
Mine wasn't magnetic.
Hardest part is gettting the damn drain plug loose 😮
For me, it's getting my giant hand up in there to the filter.
The only "simple" tool I don't have... is a lift that can raise my Mirage to eye level ! Hahaha...
I totally get it. My knees and back are so blown out that without this lift, I can no longer work. That said, this job can be done by a younger person on the ground with a jack and jack stand.
My Mirage start rattling when accelerating, noise seems come from exhaust, when i test it in neutral, it doesn't, any idea how yo fix it?
That sounds like a heat shield that is loose. Lay flat next to the car when it's off and see if there is a thin piece of metal touching the exhaust. They can be safely removed.
Does it need to be running to check cold and hot level? Video said no, description says yes have it running. I plan on changing my fluid soon on the mirage. Dont want to check the level incorrectly. Thank you for the video
Yes, the final check should be done with the engine running, at full operating temperature and the car in park. Sorry for the confusion.
Great video! Thanks...
Glad you liked it! I hope it helped you
Hello, Mitsubishi mirage 2015 mileage is 350 thousand km. How many thousand should I change the oil of the CVT gearbox? The color of the oil has darkened and I haven't changed the oil for 2 years.
Do it! They recommend every 40K I say every 20K.
Jesus.....$300+ for that.....i can see why everyone hates dealers.
My question and thought. After you drive it and check the CVT dipstick. It now reads low, you add the remaining CVT fluid. How you know if it's not over filled? You check it again and need to rewarm it again?
Yes, drive it for at least 20 minutes to warm it up, check it while running on flat ground and while in park. If it's low, top it off till its close, but not over filled and drive it again to verify.
Personally, I stick to the manufacturer's intervals regarding every fluid in the car. Now 70.000 miles on my Mirage CVT and it is like new. The whole car is like new, by the way, except for the paint which I screwed up myself. I don't care about that. It drives just as well with ugly paint.
I totally get sticking to the manufacturer specs. I choose not to, and here is why. Back when I was a full time tech, I watched a lot of well kept Volvos get sludged up because Volvo changed the interval to 7.5K on oil. It was too long.
They did it because it made the cost of ownership stats go down making it look more attractive to buyers in consumer reports. That killed a lot of cars, and all of them were over the 30K warranty when they failed.
Mitsubishi recommends on the normal service schedule for the Mirage, you never have to change your CVT fluid, just check it. On the severe service schedule which would be most of us, it's recommend to change every 30k miles however doesn't say anything about the cartridge (case) filter or pickup filter (sump filter). At least not in my version of the manual. I would recommend changing it every 20k miles and here's why. Those tiny metal shavings that appear as a gray paste inside the CVT fluid pan and on the magnets and in other parts of the CVT, that metallic paste will build up in the valves and cause harsh shifting when you shift into reverse. Then you'll notice once you start doing ~3 quart flushes from the drain plug or if you pull off the pan and do the 5 quart flush in order to clean the magnets, once you put in fresh J4 fluid it'll start to clean out the valves and galleys and when you check your fluid you'll have metallic paste settling at the bottom of any sample you take and at the top you'll have clean fluid. This is why I'd suggest doing the case filter swap as you saw here in the video every 20k and if possible pull the pan down and clean the two round magnets inside the pan. It's not really necessary to change the pickup filter although you could, it's a waste of $40. That pickup filter is good for I'd say at least 75k miles or more.
Hey! I'm a new subscriber to the channel here. Looking in the market & I'm strung between a used 2015 Mirage @109k miles w/ 1 previous owner & and a little less service neglect. Or a used 2015 Mirage @ 68k miles w/ 3 previous owners & possibly a lot more neglect? This is all according to the Carfax report of course, but I hope any Mirage owners can give me some insight, thanks! p.s. I do a lot of DIY maintenance and driving, I'm hoping I can get at least 200k miles out of this vehicle.
I would personally go for the 15 Mirage with the 109K on it. These cars last a long time, and 200K will be no issue if you start taking care of it now.
I’ve been told to check the fluid when the car is running so is that wrong? I’m about to change both filters on 17 mirage g4.
No, you are correct. The last check of the fluid should be done with the engine running and the car at operating temp.
Sorry for the confusion!
Suzuki is trying to charge $150 for their 4 quarts "unique" CVT fluid. I'm curious if you remember how much you paid per quart.
I just look on Amazon- it is $85 for their brand- Nissan is also the same fluid- maybe you can shop around
Is it possible to make a video to change the transmission fluid on a 2023 outlander? I drive it a lot for work. Looking underneath, it seems it has the same filter housing as the mirage. Under the hood it has a port where the dipstick would go, but no stick. I don’t trust the dealer to change the fluid.
I would if I had one to change it on.
What about the filter underneath the pan?
The filter in the pan is just a fine mesh screen. I will go 40 to 60K and will likely look as good as new when you drop the pan. It is there to catch big stuff. In a CVT if "big stuff" is caught by that filter, you've got big issues!
The universal logic behind those suction side screen mesh filters in the pan is that if there is enough metal builds up enough to clog up that filter, then it is time for overhaul anyways. There are magnets in the pan to catch fine magnetic metals.This filter in the video is also known as 'control circuit filter', protects the fluid that is going into the fine hydraulic control circuits inside, but in time it ends up filtering the whole fluid eventually...
You can put a magnetic drain plug just to get a heads up to incoming failure. Because you don't know what sticks to those magnets inside the pan. If you see little chunks on that magnetic drain plug, then you know the failure is on its way.
I thought he was negan from the walking dead for a second 😂😂😂
If that means I can take 1/2 your stuff, I'm in!
Idemitsu CVTF fluid is the exact same , bet my house on it !
Bet the transmission? It likely is, but I can't confirm and as such, I won't use it.
20 to 40k mile or km ?
20,000 to 40,000 miles.
Hi, thank you for the video. May i check what is the inner diameter of the washer?Thank you.
That would be kinda hard to do since it is installed
How many liters are needed after draining all the liquid inside?
It really depends so get at least 5 quarts for the job.
Hi! I bought a 2018 mirage it has 128000 miles. Sometimes when I put it in reverse it shakes especially after I first start the car. Do you think I should get my fluid changed is it gonna solve the problem ? Hope you see this message. Thankss
You may be dealing with a motor mount issue. Have someone look at the engine while you put the car in reverse. If the motor rocks forward or back, it's a failed motor mount.
Shouldn't you clean out the oil pan with decreaser and the magnets?
At the second interval, yes. Every 20k a drain and fill. Every 40k a pan drop.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs thx
I have to order the paper filter online since it is not available in offline shops here. The one i saw online is for 2017 mirage. Will that cross fit for 2014?
Yes it will! They are the same filter all the way up to 2024. Don't forget a o-ring.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs yea indeed. It comes with the O ring as. Thank you so much👍
You talk about 2.64 quarts of cvt fluid. When I look up mirage cvt fluid specs. I find that it needs 4 quarts. How can I verify the number of quarts required? Dave
The 4 quarts is if you replace the bottom pan and screen as well.
I am the owner of a Mirage 2015 provided with a Jatco JF015e CVT. The manual claims a content of 7 litres in the gearbox, but it seems like not even half of that amount can be drained. Where is the rest?
That is total capacity. You'll never get that much out unless you are rebuilding it. Most is stuck in the inner matrix.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs Then I don’t understand the philosophy by changing the fluid. Half of the total amount of fluid is still old and will be mixed with the new fluid, which means that now all of it is semi old!
Hi mate, sorry to ask but I’m scratching my head.. I’ve replaced the pan gasket and it’s still leaking a lot.. really not sure where I’ve gone wrong, I’ve torqued the bolts to spec. Hopefully you can shed some light 🙏🙏 thanks
Did you use a screwdriver to pry the pan off? if so, you bent it. It's a common mistake. Take it back off and see where the damage is. If you are lucky, you can beat the dents out, if not, you'll need a new pan.
Are you sure cvt fluid is checked with engine off??? Mitsubishi forums say engine should be running??? Also...owner manual doesn't say anything about turning engine off before check
The final check should be done with the engine running, transmission at 180F and in park. Top off as needed.
Hello, I just purchased a Mitsubishi mirage 2017 g4 with 92k miles 2 days ago, today it started shaking or slipping while accelerating, I’m going to do this and hope my problem is solved, would you agree?
It couldn't hurt. In your case, I would also drop the bottom pan and replace the screen down there. Very easy to do.
It is hilarious how much your local dealer charges for a CVT lube job; I guess they are banking on people being afraid of CVTs.
All shops in our state are now charging about that price. Welcome to the collapse!
Question: Since these CVTs also have another internal filter which requires dropping the drain pan, does that one ever need changing if you are doing the paper filter and fluid change every 20K or 30K? I think the internal one is probably a metal screen type.
The screen type filter is a last defence item. If there are large pieces stuck in it, you likely have internal transmission issues. Still, I plan to take my pan down every other time I do a service to clean it just for good measure.
@@FarpointRestorationsAndRepairs That's what I was thinking, thanks.
Hy could you please share links from where I can buy oil and filter online.
I bought both from sellers on eBay. I try to give my money to people that own small companies like I do. I wish I had links, but it's all long gone.
WHat is the number of product with the O-ring, so I can buy it ?THank you for the video !
I mean what is the number for the filter, the number for the O-ring you already gave in the video - THank !
I'll have to look. I can't remember. Sorry!