Porsche 928 S4 - One Take
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2016
- This absolutely stunning Porsche 928 S4 is, what we'll call a "survivor" car with only 32,000 miles on the odometer from new. Aside from a set of "Turbo Twist" wheels, a Nardi steering wheel, and a cat-back exhaust, it's completely stock and about as close as I'll ever come to driving a brand-new, 28-year old 928.
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No, Matt! Tell everyone it's crap, that way prices will stay low...
I'm poor and in college and want one when I get out.
You can buy them cheap, but the maintenance is not cheap. A $5,000 928 will cost about $10-15,000 to get into good shape. They always say to buy the best kept one in your price range.
Charles Earle Ahem. Jokes.
Did you graduate and have one now?
I have owned an s4 for over 12 years Love it
Damn I love the 928, it's such a sleek and underrated design. I know a lot of Porsche owners don't rate them, but these things are magnificent GT cars.
It's such a futuristic car. To think that Porsche began designing the car in the early 70s and released it in 1978. It would be like releasing a countach in the 1960s. The 928 still looks good today, and there is still no car that looks anything like it. It still has the Porsche look of making the fascia smile by the line in the hood. It's just so mellow and sleek. I just love it.
I went out and bought one of these based almost solely on watching this video 4 months ago. I couldn't be any happier with my decision. The one I ended up getting was also White and also a 5 speed manual. It's a 91 Porsche 928 GT. It is a night and day difference from the automatic versions. Both great cars but shifting these cars through the gears is an amazing experience! If you get one, be sure it is mechanically sound before you buy.Here is what I bought, I swear, based on this video. Hey SmokinTire, let me know if you want to make another video, this time with the pretty uncommon 91 928 GT. Best regards,Charlie HawkinsLaguna Beach, CA
Good buy. Hope you still have it
I love the Nardi wheel, but not in that car.
Hideous steering wheel and doesn't belong with that interior. The Nardi will look good on pre 80's cars.
+Fendernirvana Actually the 928 came out in the 70ies
Was thinking the exact same thing the moment I saw it. That was a very poor choice for this car, but still an amazing car as-is nonetheless.
If it feels good, drive it.
Nardi steering wheel in that car is hideous.
Ahh the car that really sparked my interest for Porsche. Dad had a 928S4 growing up and just the smell of fuel in the garage before getting in the car / the leather smell inside that makes you never want to leave. I will never forget it. An epic car experience ! Thx Dad... now I'm obsessed with cars lol :D
Love this video! My Grandfathers retirement present to himself was a 928, and the first thing he did with it was a road trip to Montana with my uncle. For years after they talked about hitting 160mph indicated on an open road just after sunrise, and how the car felt like the car was built to run 100MPH+ all day long. This video took me back to some great times!
I recently bought an 86 928.
Great car.
One of the best GT cars of all time. Still beautiful to this day.
the late 80s and early 90s was for me the best years for cars !!!! love it !
Nice to see the 928 getting some deserved attention. I bought a 1990 s4 in Japan and imported it into Canada a few years back. It took me a long time to really understand, appreciate and respect it, but now that I do I will never sell it!
i was never an audio hater, but this one is next level audio.
+krbcrwlr That engine tone is sublime.
They should totally take the Panamera platform and make a new 928.
This, great idea.
+Maxpound Actually I think Mercedes kinda did a new 928 last year with their AMG GT.
+Maxpound I mentioned this above in an earlier comment. Porsche first planned a 2-door Panamera, but they changed their minds and produced the 4-door first.
I've had my 89 S4 for 17 years. @280K miles, the engine remains untouched. Miles of smiles. Clocked at 165.8 MPH in Nevada desert (legally in sanctioned road race) when bone stock and 150K miles on the odo. 316HP from the factory, pushing about 260 to the ground through its Mercedes-built 4-spd auto transaxle. With mild (5 PSI) supercharger, I added about 100HP for even more fun. The 90 degree V8 provides a glorious muscle car sound and feel. The 928 has a very limited race history. Most, but not all, who have tried track racing have encountered oiling issues, and the cars long polar moment inhibits fast turn in. It's a GT car that shines on high speed sweepers and open road. Very solid over-engineering with some cantankerous quirks that once you understand, rarely present problems. But neglected 928s are a money pit, especially if cosmetics are poor. If you want one, spend the money to get the best one you can find.
Do you still have your 928? Have you had any problems in the last 5 years?
I owned a 1983 S model. Just a phenomenal car. When I sold it I gave the new owner the receipts for repairs, almost put a 350 Chevy in it because of that. Despite this I regret ever getting rid of it. It was such a great road car. I drove it straight from Ohio to Sturgis . That car was worth every penny.
The engine layout, V8 and the shape of the car, especially the rear design...I am looking at the a 28 year old posche, or a 2015 AMG GTS?
100% design copy on the rear M156 Charles !
Literally what I was thinking looking at the rear end. Lowered and widened a bit, it would look damn near close enough that you couldn’t tell from a distance. Would take this over the 924 or the 944 anyday at anytime
I let go of my beautiful jet black S4 just over a year ago. After criss-crossing the UK for 12 years in sublime mile-eating comfort, the feeling of loss hit me like no other. For all its foibles (it is definitely not perfect) it stand as the only car I ever owned in 25 years that practically shapeshifted into being another member of the family. A truly wonderful and totally unique character of a machine.
There were only 25 five speed imported to the US each year. I made the mistake of buying a new 928 S4 in 1986. When I drove it off the lot it dropped about 50 K in value. It's my favorite cars that I've ever owned. It was only topped by a 1991 GTS five speed. They had plenty of legroom in the passenger seat unlike the Corvette in the 80s. Plus I can put my wheelchair in the back. They definitely have a very solid feel to the car. Just like you said. Although if you are driving down the highway at 150 mph. it felt like 100. They do not like to go under 35 mph through the neighborhood. They did get a little floaty when going through the back roads of Scottsdale Arizona. Especially the undulating hills. They could easily bottom out and want to float right or left. When you are on flat terrain they handled beautifully. I wish I still had my 91.
+Scott Hill - Nonsense. There were many more than 25 manuals imported each year. In fact, in 1978, about 90% of them were manuals.
Porsche, there is no substitute. The 928 was always my '80s dream car.
I've been fortunate enough to have owned two of these great cars. The first one was an '81 and the second one was a beautiful 1987 silver exterior, and maroon interior. I miss these sweet machines ;o(
Good review, I own an 87 Black with Plum interior with auto and I enjoy it a lot!!!! I drove from El Paso, TX to Midland, TX yesterday and drove back this afternoon just to drive. 300 miles each way was fun and awesome to drive a few miles above the 80 speed limit in cruise control mode. Several cars that I'd pass or they would pass me either went faster or slowed down to check it out. Several wanted to see if I'd follow their acceleration, only got tempted with a Jaguar F-Type and kept up. Yes my car is 29 years older and didn't quite take off from 80 as he did but still fun and flattered that this classic car gets the attention. At gas station in Van Horn an older gentleman came up as I was putting gas and said that's one clean car and one that I haven't seen in years. Thank you sir!
This car was always one of my favorite hotwheels. Just a great shape. Nice proportions.
That steering wheel is nice but doesn’t work in that car. It belongs in something like a 69’ 911S, 356 or a 914. It looks out of place in a 928.
This was my favourite car as a kid! Looking forward to this one.
One of my dream cars back in the late 80s. Best review I have ever see on a 928S4!
I love the 928! This totally made my night!
Turbo wheels look good. Not feeling the steering wheel though
I kinda like it lol
super ugly
It wouldn't have been my choice for that car but the owner said the leather on the stock wheel was busted and he was waiting to get it back from being re-wrapped
It looks good, just not on the right car
+TheSmokingTire Thank god, because it doesn't give off the impression of the clean, original, factory stock car that it is. A wheel like that only makes me wonder what kind of other mods are on it.
This. This is wonderful. Thank you for filming this car, I love the front engine rear wheel drive Porsche's.
That giant yellow oil filler cap, I miss that from my 944 haha.
I've had the pleasure of driving a couple of versions of these years ago and I agree with you Matt great cars. It remember seeing the car for the first time in Risky Business.
Car looks so new for its age, truly the first modern looking car.
I own a 1985 one in wine color, brilliant piece of engineering
+Gonzalo Bueno Lucky dog. Almost bought one, but got a 968 instead at the time.
+Gonzalo Bueno The S4 model didn't come out till 87. I wish I had one!
Yeah mine is just a 928, I honestly prefer the look of mine to this, its more retro :)
+Gonzalo Bueno Nothing on your channel put up a video man!! Would love to see it..
One of my favourite cars. Thanks for the review. Cheers from a Canadian fan.
If I remember correctly, these gems have their transmissions in the back so the weight distribution's better too. What a great example of a rare front engined, V-8 powered Porsche! :-)
you are correct, it gave them 50/50 weight distribution
IMO The 928 project was always being tripped up at a high level. I used to come across 928s on the road and drag strip back in the day but my 91 ZR1 saw them off case by case.
I sat in one once and was suitably impressed by the feel of the car.
Interestingly I also came across the engine in a Tullio Abbate raceboat, it turns out that Porche were offering these a crate race motors, twin turbo 750 hp!
With a factory warranty for sufficient hours for a class 1 Offshore powerboat season, so to answer your question Matt, Porche did it themselves just not in a car.
Thanks for the 928 review :) I'm a lucky owner and its great to see a review of it by a professional!
Gz, they are awesome cars!
"professional"
Super clean and sounds great!
The 928 very well may make my top 10 list. Thanks for the video, Matt.
Matt, I love how you mentioned the smell of the leather in this car. My dad owns a 1974 Porsche 911 and whenever I sit inside of it the first thing i smell is the leather interior. Brings back so many memories of riding in it as a kid
I've been driving one of these in the early 2000's a couple of times. I think it was one of the later models with about 340 HP. I was seriously impressed with how damn quick it was. It definetely gave the 996's a ride for their money.
But I also was irritated with the key-position on the right.
But what a machine it was!
To me it is on the same level as the front-engine-Ferraris. Meaning it is the Gentleman's Porsche. Way more sophisticated than the obvious choice 911.
Great video as always!
Beautiful car all round - But Take that Ridiculous Steering Wheel off it ! What the hell is the owner thinking ??!
Probably a decision made 20 years ago... Haha.
Some days at work are better then others!! Looks like you had a great day at work..
Rare car, not many survived. Here in Canada anyways..
That's because they all got exported to the US and other countries
Beautiful 928! I love mine and its good to see you driving one.
Porsche themselves didnt race them, because they had better cars (935 and 956), but there were two racing teams who raced the engine in Le Mans. My dad had one and put 260k miles on it ;) Great car. I was thinking of building myself an autocross version of a 928 s4
I love those cars so much! Has always been my dream car.
Never been a huge fan of the styling on the 928, but man this is sure a clean example. Sweet car.
this is the car that makes me say "they don't make them like they used to"
Blast from the past!!!!
I used to love this car back in middle school. Considered fast for its time, and actually faster than the 944 Turbo.
Low mile GTS manual just sold at auction $132,000. Low mile S4's are in the 30k and up range for a well kept one. If your interested, like a 928 page like 928 owners on Facebook. Almost everyone is friendly and will help with any question you may have.
One of my personal favorite Porsches, loved the dog leg in my old 914.
"Who's the U-Boat commander?" I have been a huge fan of the 928 since they came out in the seventies. Great review! thanks.
Thanks for sharing this Matt!
The sound this car makes is great. I like it a lot!
Clean. Looks great, sounds great. Always wanted a 80's porsche
Such a great car man, and looks like you are having a blast!
Stunning machine and it sounds glorious !
I had a 1990 944S2 in high school, never drove a 928, but the S2 was smooth. 80 felt like 40
I learned to drive in the late 90's in 1979 928. great memories
First time I've heard Matt use a word like " immediacy ". Thank goodness for the Thesaurus. Now this channel is professional. Congrats.
The more Matt enjoys a car, the less he talks ;)
I love the Porsche 928. I had a poster of one of these on my wall in the 90's. We're currently restoring a 85 928S. Gabs has a very nice example. Enjoy it in good health!
So happy that you have finally done a 928! Next you have to do a 944 S2 and a 944 Turbo! They are all wonderfull cars.
Don't forget a 968
I'm 47 years old and growing up, that was by far my favorite car of anything available at that time. Of course, Risky Business played a big role in that love affair. Seeing one that mint sends shivers down my spine.
I really want one after watching this! Stunning example
very nice Matt. I hope you do these one takes forever so my boy can watch them in a few years
i love the 928, great video. good job matt
Glad to see the 928 get some love. I've got a '79 that's mechanically sound, but the paint and interior leaves... well, it's bare metal inside and out at this point.
Finally! I personally own a specialty shop that works on this model of 928, the s4 specifically and Im so stoked you guys finally got to enjoy one of these german muscle cars!!! Garage928 represent!
How often do you need to repair them, and what is the most frequent issue they have? I ask because I am thinking of buying one in the future.
On 32 valve cars, it's the timing belt. On automatics, it's the engine thrust bearing because of the drive shaft coupler to the crank. Most either have or will have electrical gremlins since the cars are loaded with electronics and have 22 or more years under their belt. A good PPI (pre purchase inspection) will spot these which will give you some bargaining leverage. And the correct rear 16" tires are no longer available which is why you see them with non-original wheels. Most everything else is like a typical car except at a steeper price tag for parts. If you are handy with a wrench, there are a few online communities that have a large database of info and knowledge. Most Porsche dealerships are clueless as to what a 928 is now-a-days. There are a number of independent 928 mechanic shops around the country but they are few and far between. I have a '87 928 S4 (67k miles) and a '78 911 (73k miles) and do all of my own wrenching which isn't much because of mint cars and good PPI's. The old say goes, "Buy the best one you can afford up front and it will cost you less in the end".
This sounds sooo good
For some reason I associate that car with Jeremy Clarkson. I think he was a big fan of it. Not a fan of the looks but it's got respectable performance.
His review is very touching. As a man that hates Porsches he really loved that car
+JKU lab He doesn't hate porsche just their styling
+Rentta or lack there of
+Christian Augustin It was because he had a special experience when he was testing it for top gear. Not sure what it was, a family member in the hostpital or something.
+Jindo Krey i remember the episode... his dad/mum was in the hospital and he had to drive quite a distance at speed to make it to them before they passed or something...he was grateful that it performed flawlessly through the journey
lovely example of a great car & really enjoyed that video.
Beautiful car and what a sound! I've always had a soft spot for 928's but the horror stories of how hard they are to work on and the number of problems they can have has kept me from seriously considering owning one. This particular example is amazing and even through my PC speakers I can tell that the exhaust and engine sounds fantastic.
My Dad has had an 88 pre digital dash S4 for the last 19 years, I absolutely love it and they're such fun to be a passenger in let alone drive. In Silver they almost remind me of a modern millenium falcon... 928 = Best Car Ever imo
I had the chance to try a 928 s4 for a long term run, and It was great. The sound transmits a power feeling of a muscle car but with the hability to rev high.The consumption on highway was suprisingly good (it was an auto).
Really liked it. I bought an E39 m5 just after this try and it was as good as the porsche but without this little bit of spirit/character that I liked, and without this amazing tone...
great car, great review. keep em coming sir
What a great sound.
Wow that car looks super clean!!
Sounds awesome.
Thrilled and surprised to see a 928. Very cool to see one so well preserved. Would be awesome to see another on ST that's a driver's car and to see you pound the crap out of it.
I don't know what you mean by "pound the crap" out of it. I spent a lot of this video at full throttle, and shifted within 1,000 RPM of redline almost every gear. If the car was worse, I wouldn't treat it worse?
TheSmokingTire I'll watch again. Its hard to feel the speed in some of the videos. Maybe I heard you say you something along the lines of it being a collector car and not driving that hard. I'm sure I have it have wrong. Anyway. Cool car, cool video and thanks for your work.
+Michael Cohen I said I felt guilty running the motor that hard, and that was probably the hardest its been driven in years, but I don't see a need to pound the shit out of it. Wide angles slow things down, but I'm carrying 80-100 mph down a good portion of that road.
Gotcha. I'd say that 100mph in the canyonds and shifting near red line is pounding the shit out of it! Thanks for all your videos and podcasts. As always, looking forward to the next.
I've come here after reading a 1990 Autocar review on one of these where the guy brought a 17,000 mile used example and ran it as a daily driver! He got 17 mpg just driving it around (London and immediate area mainly) and 20mpg on longer trips. That's imperial gallons btw. He described one trip to Europe around the Periphique near Paris where he hit an indicated 180mph at 6,300rpm. And it was rock steady! Awesome
Can't wait until you do a 944.
Beautiful video
I always wanted one of these, but I hear the repair cost is very high. Thanks for another GREAT review! This car is so cool!
that's a revolting stearing wheel, orginal is way better
Mrbigolnuts it's beautiful
I agree. This steering wheel belongs on a 356 or something similar.
The steering wheel is beautiful, the 80's interior is revolting.
I enjoyed this review. I have an 88 auto. Yeah yeah auto, makes a fantastic commuter car. Has the GTS exhaust on it for a nice rumble. Amazing road trip machine.
Beautiful 928
I upgraded my 1984 928 automatic 2 valve for a 1986 manual 4 valve and difference is like night and day, about 50 more horse power and much lighter than the S4. has magnaflow exhaust which sounds better than a Ferrari. Mine has 180K miles daily driver with original cats and no engine rebuilt just maintenance by me.
928's with manual's are tough to find. The cream of the crop 928 is the GTS, the final hoorah before they were discontinued. If you want a 928, that's the one to get with a manual.
I sat in one the other DAT at the dealer and then it was gone a week later. Had the stick
I drove an showroom condition low milage auto a few years ago in Chatsworth, CA. Awesome car.
My dream car...still underrated, I think.
I had a 79 928 5MT, and everything Matt said is true. Really solid car, comfortable, and capable. Damn shame Porsche doesn't make something like this any more.
Stunning car
What an awesome car. I never really paid attention to these (Always had a thing for the 964s) but seeing a mint condition example and hearing that V8 and learning it's a cruising type of car makes me really want one.
+Djonkie Bonk I'm in the same boat. Never even considered a 928, now I'm reading all about them.
Preston Shepherd Yeah as much as I like precise handling machines a comfortable GT car fits the bill better for me.
3:28 to 3:32 it sounds so calm. A nice low, even rumble rather than the screaming roar that most V8s have.
I'm jealous, Matt! I've always liked these cars.
beautiful
this is my favorite one take so far. one take a clean 944 !
I have that exact same wheel in my Jag. Love those Nardi pieces.
Bought one from by best friend moved here from South America bought it from his step dad. it was my friends first car ever. I remember first riding in it. I was amazed by the quality and the looks of it. It almost looks like a Lear jet or a space ship.
928.. Best GT Ever
drove this new as a lot boy, my first job. AWESOME machine.
What a beautiful car.