The Hidden Past Of My Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale?!

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  • Опубліковано 2 бер 2024
  • I've now owned my Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale for a few months, had an initial mechanical inspection done by AV Engineering, spent around £5,000 on essential work and completed a 1,000 mile road trip. In this video, I discuss 'what's next' for the car by visiting DK Engineering, Car Audio Security and Hilton & Moss... where I discover my car may have had a more interesting past than I realised.
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  • @ThePeanutGiant
    @ThePeanutGiant 3 місяці тому +273

    guy said "mmm Schumacker's rubber..." yoooo

    • @Jacobcars
      @Jacobcars 3 місяці тому +4

      😂

    • @robertbanger495
      @robertbanger495 3 місяці тому +16

      Schumacher goes bareback mate. Don't get pregnant

    • @bigblivin9722
      @bigblivin9722 3 місяці тому +5

      Ayyyoooo 🤣🤣🤣

    • @helipeek2736
      @helipeek2736 3 місяці тому +3

      No idea who shoemaker is but, I do enjoy Choux pastry, especially an eclair

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 3 місяці тому

      I just got off PornHub to hear THIS?!

  • @tonymoreton7166
    @tonymoreton7166 3 місяці тому +143

    You know what to do. No rush. The journey is better than the destination. And, you've waited long enough. Just enjoy it. Maybe do the sound stuff. Then pick up the big paint stuff & buttons during a winter period.

    • @anthonyfarnan5935
      @anthonyfarnan5935 3 місяці тому +1

      Or trade this thing in for the *manual* *resprayed* 360 he just sold…

    • @Ellis01234567890
      @Ellis01234567890 3 місяці тому

      @@anthonyfarnan5935 CS > Money

  • @MW-uy3np
    @MW-uy3np 3 місяці тому +37

    It's your forever car, no rush for any of these items to get done! Take your time, enjoy the car.

  • @SChapps
    @SChapps 3 місяці тому +59

    Definitely stick with a single din head unit, like you said a CarPlay screen would block the air con controls but also it would be a bit low to be that practical anyway

  • @coreycohen6160
    @coreycohen6160 3 місяці тому +68

    Why not use a Porsche PCCM radio? It’s Android so you can replace the Porsche logo in the startup screen and it has Apple car play in a single din radio.

    • @9and3
      @9and3 3 місяці тому +3

      Yup was just about to say this.. its a classic look and works perfectly with CarPlay - and with an extra dongle wireless car play.

    • @Stigs722
      @Stigs722 2 місяці тому

      Love these 360 update videos

  • @julian987r4
    @julian987r4 3 місяці тому +23

    I wouldn’t bother with the double din screen. As bizarre as it seems, consider the Porsche classic radio single din and get the bezel painted to remove the word Porsche. The era of button style will look closer than a modern car stereo.

  • @georgesj9536
    @georgesj9536 3 місяці тому +50

    on the permanent phone mount: just get someone to 3d-print a mount with a quadlock (garmin) phone mount. Or with a build in charger.
    Will probably match the plastics in the car quite well too

    • @Millie-md4jk
      @Millie-md4jk 3 місяці тому

      Becker system buddy….

    • @domiwer
      @domiwer 3 місяці тому

      maybe with some CAD work you could even integrate MagSafe into it... I have a 3D-printed phone holder with a regular Yosh mount in my car, it sticks between tachometer and dashboard.

  • @aynakotalaga
    @aynakotalaga 3 місяці тому +28

    I recently had a Pioneer SPH-EVO950DAB installed in my F430. It's amazing! Wireless Car Play / Android Auto. Google maps on a decent screen. No messing about with cradles and cables. Best of all, it doesn't look out of place!

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 3 місяці тому +2

      Well, you can't get high-end audio without cables...but yeah sounds like a very interesting device. I love Pioneer audio stuff, they're excellent.

    • @danofficial117
      @danofficial117 3 місяці тому

      Does it not de value it not being original?

    • @cobrapower1008
      @cobrapower1008 3 місяці тому

      You can always wrap it and change it every time...then it keeps value and you have always a special coloured car

    • @aynakotalaga
      @aynakotalaga 3 місяці тому

      @@pistonburner6448agree! I meant the USB cables plugged into the cigarette lighter socket. Mines a Spider so a little noisy so I'm not sure that it's a good platform for high-end audio.

    • @aynakotalaga
      @aynakotalaga 3 місяці тому

      @@danofficial117a previous owner had replaced the stereo in mine. TBH it's not something that I considered. I use mine regularly, attending as many meets and shows as possible. Plan some European drives so functionality is more important. Now if my car did have the original unit, I would have kept it for the next owner.

  • @JayEmmOnCars
    @JayEmmOnCars 3 місяці тому +13

    Sam, as for stereo solutions - just get a set of good noise cancelling headphones. Those cars are so loud inside that to try and make a passable stereo you'll be listening at ludicrous volumes. Save your wallet and sanity.

    • @joemamaisfat
      @joemamaisfat 3 місяці тому +1

      AirPod Pro 2s are my go to in my old cars. Has adaptive mode, so it draws out the unnecessary noise but still maintains the exhaust/engine noise to an enjoyable level. Just play white noise or something similar and it won’t distract either from driving.
      I use them in my old 930, that might have a straight through exhaust.

    • @harvinmahal
      @harvinmahal 3 місяці тому +2

      Is that safe? 🤔

  • @RAZGR1Z
    @RAZGR1Z 3 місяці тому +7

    Thanks Sam, great video. I noticed you had a camera person in this one that added some more depth to the cinematography. Appreciate your work!

  • @user-wg5tl3xw6j
    @user-wg5tl3xw6j 3 місяці тому +2

    Absolutely loved the style of this video, seeing you being filmed it gives a whole different vibe. Big ups Sam and continue with the awesome work. Love from South Africa🇿🇦

  • @lukemallory7832
    @lukemallory7832 3 місяці тому +5

    Nice to see the 191. I've posted before that as a kid at the RDS in Dublin in late 1991, and acting on the orders of my big brother, I snuck under the barriers and tried to climb into it before security got me. The eventually agreed I was allowed to sit on the front wheel. I also met the then-unknown Alessandro Zanardi, who eventually became Alex Zanardi. He didn't speak much English at the time. I still have his autograph. Good old days. Also a huge MSC fan.

  • @marksowerby1163
    @marksowerby1163 2 місяці тому

    I'm a huge Schumacher fan myself. I was at Silverstone in 1994 wearing a Benetton T shirt and a black Dekra cap. I got some daggers I can tell you. My most memorable race was Hockenheim 2004 where Michael won and also Monza in 2003 with all the Tifosi. Two of the greatest races I've been too. Those screaming engines too! I've got most of his cars, figurines, replica small scale helmets the lot. My office is a Schumacher shrine. Fabulous videos as always, I love the passion!

  • @Lucan-ve6zc
    @Lucan-ve6zc 3 місяці тому +2

    No screen Sam. We have the same debate in our Alfa spider. We want (simple task) the ability to use bluetooth but are both of the view that a screen is a massive retrograde step. We love the simplicity of enjoying the drive, not gadgets.

  • @Glennyboy85
    @Glennyboy85 3 місяці тому +14

    Amazing detail that you used the cup to clip your mic to!😅

    • @3h33am
      @3h33am 3 місяці тому

      Just came here to comment 😂

  • @eSysmanSuperYachts
    @eSysmanSuperYachts 3 місяці тому +3

    The scud stripe on the 360 is a sticker and lacquered over.

  • @anthonysadler1655
    @anthonysadler1655 3 місяці тому +1

    Really good informative video. Thanks for sharing these various places that do quality work.

  • @STERNWAERTS
    @STERNWAERTS 3 місяці тому +3

    6:08 this car looks so amazing among the british green and grey. it's really one of the most beautiful classic yet timeless super cars there is. they did a great job on this.

  • @vinceliu4138
    @vinceliu4138 3 місяці тому +2

    Love your content Sam! Keep up the hard work 👍

  • @benhines23
    @benhines23 3 місяці тому +1

    Enjoy seeing a vid with a separate videographer rather than all handheld and tripod shots. Nice change, feels like a good upgrade in production values and a refreshing look to your videos. Nicely done 👍

  • @troyg1673
    @troyg1673 3 місяці тому +2

    Next time your back in Melbourne Australia, bring all your sticky buttons to Ferrari Melbourne (yes, you've filmed a Strad there), they have a guy that can professionally restore all those sticky plastic parts back to OEM finish with original white markings for around GBP1000 or less.

  • @abrarhuda4291
    @abrarhuda4291 3 місяці тому +2

    I agree with the plan, make is mechanically sound right now then work on the paint and interior during the winter.

  • @richboy900
    @richboy900 3 місяці тому +5

    The F50 is the dream though, it has the block from Prosts 90's F1 car. It's a Ferrari that sounds like no other 😎

  • @scottthomson9813
    @scottthomson9813 3 місяці тому +2

    Sam, enjoyed the video as always. I had commented some years ago that the Normal Guy Supercar channel out of Texas did a video oh how to perfectly fix the sticky buttons yourself, which he did on his 360. 4k is a lot of readies for buttons mate. Been enjoying the channel for years and love the new car.

    • @Gadne92.5
      @Gadne92.5 2 місяці тому

      Dude, many of these YT kids cant even handle a wrench on their hand. Their "mechanical knowledge" is simply non existent. Take a look @17:00 on wards. He is asking is the bonnet rust repair so big job that the whole bonnet is in need of replacing.

  • @Chris-fm1xr
    @Chris-fm1xr 3 місяці тому +1

    Take it off the road in the winter and do the paint then. Love the idea of a colour change. Look how good Shmee’s SLS turned out and now it’s many peoples favourite car. I think you could do a similar thing with a special colour on the challenge and it would be an amazing one off even more special car?

  • @michaelmeredith912
    @michaelmeredith912 3 місяці тому +2

    For the stereo a head unit with a 3.5 inch screen like the Porsche Classic head unit for early 911s would be very cool. Awesome video! 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @pamelaramdat8321
    @pamelaramdat8321 3 місяці тому +5

    Personally, go with the single din, with the better source and output. I am not a big fan of Apple car play i actually think it messes with your sound quality. And also no head unit will ever work as good as your phone

  • @mikeandmutley9604
    @mikeandmutley9604 3 місяці тому +1

    Mines got a few scars from track days etc. at least it’s been used properly. Got a few bits mechanically this year but I agree take your time and get it how you want it

  • @gymfreakuk
    @gymfreakuk 3 місяці тому +1

    You can get a single din head unit with a screen that’s connected in the middle that won’t cover your vents or controls below

  • @Paul-D
    @Paul-D 3 місяці тому

    That Vulcan bomber model behind you is amazing. DK engineering is such a wicked place

  • @Bmontepeque11
    @Bmontepeque11 3 місяці тому

    I love seeing the restoration process of your Challenge Stradale! It makes me think of when I get a car like that and the things I would like yo have do to it :') ❤️

  • @Isaac.Smith__
    @Isaac.Smith__ 3 місяці тому

    In regards to phone mount issue, I would definitely recommend the quad lock. So easy to use, customisable for your needs and very strong. Check it out

  • @lloydbellis7360
    @lloydbellis7360 3 місяці тому

    Things to do list when it’s quiet.
    Great stuff
    😎😎😎👍👍👍

  • @OldGinger
    @OldGinger 3 місяці тому

    My dads got a mk1 tt with an aftermarket head unit/ pop out screen.
    Honestly if you dont want to see it, once its closed you dont really notice it! Definitely a good option to update the interior and get carplay/ nav!

  • @k.h.i8465
    @k.h.i8465 3 місяці тому

    It’s so cool to see that you finally own your dream car! Congratulations again Sam! Well deserved

  • @21sled
    @21sled 3 місяці тому +3

    2:25 Schumacher is Sam’s Roman Empire 😂😂

  • @ky1ark
    @ky1ark 3 місяці тому

    Can’t wait to see every minute of this

  • @denisspratt926
    @denisspratt926 3 місяці тому +2

    I do know Alpine do have a single DIN unit with touchscreen that don’t fold out.
    It is just the front of the single DIN unit.
    And it also has Apple CarPlay.
    That might be worth checking out.

  • @avivshahrabani3147
    @avivshahrabani3147 3 місяці тому +1

    Great that you have brought a photographer Sam

  • @laurentiuprisacariu9905
    @laurentiuprisacariu9905 3 місяці тому +1

    please come back to that Hilton place! cant see another video with their cars🎉

  • @lowfinger
    @lowfinger 3 місяці тому

    Its interesting to see these successful companies and what they offer,.Great to see they can thrive and provide these levels of service.

  • @MachineGunMike
    @MachineGunMike 3 місяці тому

    Get the scuderiaaudio speakers for your CS. I did and it’s good.

  • @drivencollection
    @drivencollection 3 місяці тому +1

    for the headhunt, wait until the Becker London 500 comes out -- single din with CarPlay sorta like the Porsche vintage replacement system -- I'll be putting one in my F430 as soon as its released

  • @mikerayner5938
    @mikerayner5938 3 місяці тому

    Hilton’s is an amazing place. I’ve had paint and servicing with them. There was a gorgeous manual DBS when I was in there last time.

  • @darrenpugh8576
    @darrenpugh8576 3 місяці тому

    Love seeing @CASTV on the channel!!

  • @MrArieArieArie
    @MrArieArieArie 3 місяці тому

    There's something very nice about this channel, I like it :)

  • @standardh_
    @standardh_ 3 місяці тому

    Love these “service” videos for a peek behind the curtain, Sam. Curious: is your coat Herno by chance? :)

  • @syedrehanfida
    @syedrehanfida 3 місяці тому

    The air vent phone mount is a viable option. It's cheap and works fine. I'm using one currently, but not in a Ferrari.
    Try looking for it in the online shops...

  • @richardcarter1000
    @richardcarter1000 3 місяці тому

    Going through a similar thought process with my F355. Had the sticky bits sorted. Looks great, but could with painting the wheel arches etc. Just paint maintenance

  • @matthewernst2318
    @matthewernst2318 3 місяці тому +2

    Get the screen and add a backup camera….makes backing up in a 360 a lot safer.

  • @asimking360
    @asimking360 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi Sam, there is an iPhone MagSafe holder which purchased off of Amazon that I use on the 360 CS ac vent. It’s not the best but it does its job. That being said if you do create one specifically for the CS, please put me down to purchase one 😊

  • @stevenbennett3922
    @stevenbennett3922 3 місяці тому +1

    Each to their own of course but you missed three of the best cars in the place. The Mk1 Lotus Cortina and the 2 SL convertibles.

  • @skFriberg
    @skFriberg 3 місяці тому +1

    Driving around the car all spring and summer knowing it'll go through the pig paint stuff etc during the off period in winter must be a good feeling. No need to worry too much then.

  • @An_Arbitrary_Miscellany
    @An_Arbitrary_Miscellany 3 місяці тому +1

    That gunmetal Enzo is just **chef's kiss**

  • @TheBobjovi
    @TheBobjovi 3 місяці тому

    Great video, love the mug hiding the mic :D

  • @terrychanakira9236
    @terrychanakira9236 3 місяці тому

    I got so excited when I saw you arriving at CAS. Still am actually😂....that's the part I'm watching now.

  • @williamrogercummings9607
    @williamrogercummings9607 3 місяці тому +1

    Nice vid, Sam. Hold off a little on the appearance bits. Step by step. The car looks good.

  • @ConnorSimpson007
    @ConnorSimpson007 3 місяці тому

    On the phone mount. Check out quadlock? I have on on my E46 M3 and it's amazing sturdy, tough and build to last. The case aswell is amazing in quality. My phone went through a prior car crash and the phone, case and mount came out unscaved. If that's not a quality product I don't know what is 👌👌

  • @benjamintyson8759
    @benjamintyson8759 3 місяці тому

    Sam - This is great to follow your new acquisition (challenge stradale at last!!!) after hearing you long for one for years! I do have a question - the minor corrosion up by the wing mirror and on the arches. I have that exact same issue on a car, a low miles Mercedes W124 cabriolet that's rarely even seen weather, but somehow, these areas developed over time. The car is otherwise not a rust bucket whatsoever. I'm wondering (quite technically) how they will actually fix that. Bodyshops I've gone to about it have all said replace panels, full stop. Sigh - to me this seems overly invasive. But seems the shop (which is very high end - and does to the top standard) you've visited actually will repair. I'd love to know more detail about what they do, so I can convince someone over here to do the same on mine.

  • @DPCTechnology
    @DPCTechnology 3 місяці тому

    Sorry I had to take a personal moment with that Jordan 191... Just perfection.....

  • @Lou-f
    @Lou-f 3 місяці тому +1

    Jordan 💚 100% single din radio with a phone mount over one of your vents👌🏻

  • @KingReza
    @KingReza 3 місяці тому +1

    Sam I will use Porsche Classic PCCM in my 360 Spider project that AV work on. I use that in my 355 also, just need take away Porsche logo

  • @Matt-ud4bl
    @Matt-ud4bl 3 місяці тому

    I had a BLAUPUNKT BREMEN SQR 46 RETRO CAR STEREO in my 996 and a few others cars from 90s and 00s and it was great. Pretty much looked factory and benefits of Bluetooth, dab and great hands free calling.

  • @AngryBritain
    @AngryBritain 3 місяці тому

    You need the pioneer sph20dab, I ve had 3 of them in classics . Uses your phone screen as control

  • @NightfallDrives
    @NightfallDrives 3 місяці тому +5

    Would love you to repaint it Verde Pino - a criminally underused heritage Ferrari colour. This is my dream to do to a 360 Modena or Spider someday, green is on the Italian flag after all… 😉

  • @djm_852
    @djm_852 3 місяці тому

    I had a 360 and the back arches were beginning corrode a little but not as bad as that. Wouldn’t worry about the front bumper, they’ve all been off and repainted at this stage.

  • @daveetchells8206
    @daveetchells8206 3 місяці тому

    Sam just get the radio updated i believe you can retro fit seen it done a couple of times on car restoration shows car sos might be worth looking at that

  • @danielberry1635
    @danielberry1635 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the video. Would be ideal if you shared costs

  • @jeremybarker672
    @jeremybarker672 3 місяці тому +1

    Spend the year enjoying it and over the winter, Verde Zeltweg and Tan Sam..........

  • @gt_grandtouring
    @gt_grandtouring 3 місяці тому

    I also had a similar issue with a certain mid 90s car with only a single DIN slot free and not wanting a flip up which would block the HVAC controls.
    I was also worried about the relatively minimalist interior design of cars of this era and a flashy head unit would ruin the overall look. I settled on a Continental TR7412UB-OR as it looks the most factory against these sort of cars. It came with bluetooth audio so was good enough for my use case.

  • @neilmalcolmreed
    @neilmalcolmreed 3 місяці тому

    Try a QUADLOCK. They do a vent mount etc...

  • @adriaanserrao2016
    @adriaanserrao2016 3 місяці тому

    There are some single din 6.8 inch wide head units with apple carplay Android auto. They don't stick up ect. Look very good have installed a few myself (i do car audio and electrical).

  • @BaldHorsePower.
    @BaldHorsePower. 2 місяці тому

    You could literally spend years improving/restoring this car. Great thing is, you currently have a very special car, as it is so, any work carried out will be an improvement. I'd say you're right, use it, get used to it, have the work done over winter and it'll feel like a new car for next summer! Superb machine though

  • @valiantthor_
    @valiantthor_ 3 місяці тому

    Tour de France Blue if you're doing a colour change, I'd probably just repaint the factory colour for value but it's a keeper so do what YOU want at the end of the day.

  • @chestercopperpot6903
    @chestercopperpot6903 3 місяці тому +2

    You need to be talking to Ratarossa.

  • @mornadu
    @mornadu 3 місяці тому +3

    Nothing to worry about :D Just need to respray the entire car

  • @MrAndyBrooks
    @MrAndyBrooks 3 місяці тому

    Well said sir! Just drive it and enjoy it!

  • @DrewAreYou
    @DrewAreYou 3 місяці тому

    How do you walk out of DK and NOT make mention of the Daytona Spider behind you as you were drooling over the Singer?? Use your Challenge well! 👍👍

  • @TomOKelly-he5js
    @TomOKelly-he5js 3 місяці тому

    Nice Video, some real world experience of what its like to own something like, this for the enthusiast - so it will be old and properly used.
    I am kind of with you - do a bunch of smaller stuff now (sound system etc), use it over the spring/summer/Autumn and do the major piece on the body work over winter
    Personal thong, I know, but given the amount of painting needed Id be so tempted to respray the whole thing but in a different colour....... Or at the very least after resspray put a vinyl wrap on in a dofferent colour......

  • @gedam131
    @gedam131 3 місяці тому

    I think some fresh new leather on the steering wheel would be great way to make the interior feel nice again. While you’re on it, i would make the complete steering wheel black (not to keen on the red), with red stitching ofcourse.

  • @evangelosp.1523
    @evangelosp.1523 3 місяці тому

    I think the best way to go is install a single din head unit but the one with the protruding screen which comes also with apple carplay. Costly option but completely reversible which is what you want with this car. It won't look nice but the benefits will outweigh the drawbacks at the end of the day

  • @manfredi169
    @manfredi169 3 місяці тому

    it needs an ECU tune and maybe some teflon-coated pistons so it reduces friction and increases power aside with all the work that you‘ll be doing on it

  • @pablooliveira4004
    @pablooliveira4004 3 місяці тому

    Definitely do the mechanical first Sam! The car looks good. That way you can do all the driving content.

  • @Banana_Rama-123
    @Banana_Rama-123 3 місяці тому

    Blaupunkt Barcelona would look killer as an upgrade to the oem head unit!

  • @JWthree
    @JWthree 3 місяці тому

    Nice Vulcan model!

  • @trevorlangdon
    @trevorlangdon 3 місяці тому

    Get a goose neck mount for your phone. It comes up from the floor. It mounts to the seat frame I think.

  • @007knick
    @007knick 3 місяці тому

    I wouldn’t do the screen. You could probably get a 3D printed magnetic mount for the Air con vent. I would do the window mount. It doesn’t look that bad and it is functional.

  • @k17sher
    @k17sher 3 місяці тому

    I'm also Schumacher fan. I wear Omega Speedmaster The Legend everyday. All his F1 achievements are on the watch.

  • @alman6581
    @alman6581 3 місяці тому

    Sam,
    Can't they supply a single din with a screen that drops DOWN instead of up.
    There is plenty of room in a 360 incl a CS below the stereo housing instead of going up. The issue will be if then a unit/screen does allow that reverse play mode?
    Then you get Apple Car play and extras.

  • @djbmidge
    @djbmidge 3 місяці тому

    That is my fave F1 car of all time. Best form for Andrea de Cesaris in that car. RIP Andrea and Forza Michael.

  • @kevinneary2283
    @kevinneary2283 3 місяці тому +1

    Lots to consider , for me I can not tolerate looking at rust get rid of it while you can 😂 my old Porsche 911 2.7s was being eaten it never felt any good until the very expensive restoration then I never stopped smiling

  • @Jupilus10
    @Jupilus10 3 місяці тому

    Blue TDF with the stripe would slap on the CS

  • @HammerRocks
    @HammerRocks 3 місяці тому

    I'm with you Sam, with a valuable collectable car like you have, keeping it looking OEM is key for me too. Does Ferrari have something similar to what Porsche have for their older models where they (Porsche) have new audio units with modern features (ie. Apple Car Play etc) that replaces the original head unit, with something that still have the look and feel of an original OEM Porsche head unit?

  • @londonclassica8280
    @londonclassica8280 3 місяці тому

    I went to same place and had them hide a single din in my 997.1 GT3 glovebox. Use a neat Yosh phone holder on a vent. Perfect.

  • @alastairwhite1607
    @alastairwhite1607 3 місяці тому

    Great video Sam, nice outfit 👍

  • @TonySmurthwaite
    @TonySmurthwaite 3 місяці тому

    What i like about this one Sam is our gorgeous British weather, Gota love it. 🤣

  • @jahyoda
    @jahyoda 3 місяці тому +1

    Sundays With Sam !! ☕️🐿

  • @Chase.H.Q
    @Chase.H.Q 3 місяці тому

    Was that a cs centre console for a manual conversion on the desk 👀

  • @markjackson6325
    @markjackson6325 3 місяці тому

    Enjoy it over the spring / summer / autumn , then get it aesthetically perfect in the winter, when you probably wouldn't use it so much anyway. I would definitely go with the full respray, but I'm not sure I'd change the colour personally - maybe I'd prefer a tan or cream interior instead of the red, but it certainly wouldn't be an essential for me.

  • @f50-fan
    @f50-fan 3 місяці тому

    I do hope you enquired about the manual conversion, and the promo you could do for them if they convert your car for you at mates rates 😜