Is DAWN Dish Soap the HOLY GRAIL of Detailing products ??

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  • @Detailing_Dogma
    @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +17

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  • @veils1de350z
    @veils1de350z 10 місяців тому +64

    20 years ago , before most of the modern detailing companies existed, we used dish soap alot. Using dish soap for every wash, i saw quite a bit of clear coat failure with repeated use. But at that time, the quality and availability of various protection products wasn't great either. I will never know what exactly caused it , as the state of detailing products overall has improved dramatically maybe it isnt as important. Maybe clear coats have improved, clearly detailing products have come a long way, and heck maybe the dish soaps have different formulas today than 20 + years ago. Interesting video

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +4

      Thank you for chiming in, I agree with you and that makes sense. IMO clearcoat is pretty tough even against heat and solvents. I still recommend to use specific detailing soaps to everyone. Cheers my friend.

    • @diverdave4056
      @diverdave4056 10 місяців тому +9

      sad to say ... but the clear coat on most cars was done poorly and that is why it fails ! I washed my 2001 Honda Accord for 23 years that sat outside all year long with 471,000 miles on it . I washed it with dish soap and the clear coat never failed ... until 1/2 a tree fell on it while i was driving home and TOTALED IT

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +1

      yeah you're exactly right, Honda's are notorious for clearcoat failure even in late 2010 models. The current one aren't really good either, you get a stone chip it rust couple months later. cheers my man @@diverdave4056

    • @seashackf1
      @seashackf1 10 місяців тому +4

      I’ve been detailing my cars for over 25 years now and there were plenty of good products available then. You’re correct, not like today though. I was young when I got into it and easily found good products. The auto parts store had plenty of soaps. That said there are still people today using Dawn because they think car soap is a scam, so maybe more did use it back then.🤷‍♂️
      Anyways, it’s interesting to hear you saw more failures back then. My understanding of Dawn is that it’s too strong of a degreaser and would strip the clear coat of oils drying it out if used too much. So maybe that’s what happened. Back then clear coats were oil based and put on thicker than todays thin water based cc’s. So They aren’t better today, but the technique and prep of applying them definitely is. Protection is definitely easier to apply today, but is the Dawn washer actually using any? I figure, if they are using any it’s the cheapest stuff available or what’s been sitting in their garage for 15 years.
      This was interesting to me because it hits on the subject of are there too many ‘specialized’ products today. What’s actually useful and what’s not?

    • @derrickabare9986
      @derrickabare9986 8 місяців тому +2

      1st time sub here. Been detailing for 40 years and a side business owner for 4 yrs . When I started in 84 alot of times dish soap was used . Never a problem. Ofcourse protection options are a whole lot different than back then . Clearcoat was just becoming a thing . Truth be told there was alot of off lable stuff being used . Microfiber wasn't a thing . Used baby diapers. Quick detailer ? Pledge . Even today one of my favorite interior cleaners is norwex powder laundry detergent. 2 table spoons to a qt of water. Cleans everything really well . Back to dawn , gyeon suggests using dish soap with their pro line ceramics .

  • @atalk143
    @atalk143 10 місяців тому +95

    Right on! I used Dawn quite a bit way back in the late 90s / early 2000s and still do every now and then. A Dawn wash was part of the whole Zaino application process 😂. It does a great a job at removing crud and is fairly cheap. It is a little hard on old school wax and sealants but today's ceramics *laugh* it. The fear of Dawn is somewhat of a dramedy...the same haters are willingly and frequently throwing down some high-alkyl ph 13 or high-acidic ph 2 soaps to wash the paint. My only complaint of Dawn is that it's not as free-rinsing as traditional car soaps --- Not a big deal if you use a pressure washer but its "stickiness" can be annoying if you are hose-washing.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +13

      Oh nice I did not know that about zaino. Very funny reference to high ph pre soaks. It comes down to people being misled. Trying to rectify whatever I can with the channel. Thank you my man, Thanks for leaving your thoughts brother cheers.

    • @seashackf1
      @seashackf1 10 місяців тому +12

      The detailing world is definitely getting ridiculous with some of the products these days. I’m not sure the high ph decon soaps are a good comparison though, they aren’t nearly as strong a cleaner as Dawn. Dawn is a very good and strong degreaser. It’s more of an apc than high ph soap. Since Dawn is a strong degreaser it will even eventually weaken a coating if used enough. It removes the oils from the coating, trim or clear coat if not protected. Those ‘durability’ test the YT detailers years ago showed that used enough the stronger cleaners did eventually compromise the coating. As you said, using it every now and then is the key and I agree it’s totally safe in that situation.

    • @utz716
      @utz716 8 місяців тому +2

      Zaino!! Wow now there is a throwback! I found Zaino at the NY Auto Show in the very early 90s. Loved it! My dad and I would go back every year to be part of the "demo" and get our keys cleaned lol

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@seashackf1yes exactly, Dawn can pull a lot of chemicals out of the paint. Long term use will eventually show the damage. I've had family use dawn soap to wash their cars, and in about a years time it had "dirt mud" type cracking all over the paint.

    • @nicholash8021
      @nicholash8021 6 місяців тому

      I knew Sal Zaino pretty well back in the 90's and I constantly was on forums touting his stuff. You're spot on with the Dawn pre-wash. Z5 + Z6 has the slickest surface even over today's ceramics. You can even lay a hand towel on the hood without it sliding right off.

  • @splicezone
    @splicezone 7 місяців тому +39

    I have been using DAWN for 40+ years.
    Never has i seen any damages to my cars surface.
    At the end I do spray a bead maker paint protector by P&S and that is it.
    Good to go smooth and shinny.

  • @ronnieg6099
    @ronnieg6099 8 місяців тому +143

    I worked in restaurants for over two decades. Regular old Dawn is the best dish soap out of all of them, including all the restaurant style detergents.

    • @m4rvinmartian
      @m4rvinmartian 7 місяців тому +6

      Can confirm. Fill that sink with some Dawn and 150° water, and put WHATEVER in there, and in about 15 min, hit it with the high pressure, and it's clean. Never scrubbed.

    • @JnitraM078
      @JnitraM078 7 місяців тому

      @@m4rvinmartian Yup!

    • @Susan70003
      @Susan70003 7 місяців тому +2

      Dawn with the yellow duck on it?

    • @EdisonTardiRivera-p1x
      @EdisonTardiRivera-p1x 6 місяців тому

      Yea

    • @EdisonTardiRivera-p1x
      @EdisonTardiRivera-p1x 6 місяців тому

      youtube.com/@edisontardirivera-p1x?si=ZYK8d9XbICJhChhc

  • @Buck2901
    @Buck2901 5 місяців тому +16

    Nothing beats Quebec's weather to test car cleaning products. Great job.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  5 місяців тому +1

      Hey Rob thanks for chiming in, we've got it pretty harsh here agreed. Cheers my friend

  • @turbotonye-4124
    @turbotonye-4124 7 місяців тому +17

    I’ve been detailing for 20 years now. I always keep a few bottles of Dawn Powerwash (the foam sprayer) with me always. Works well for door jams where I don’t want to make a mess with the foam canon. Pretty good degreaser. 👍🏼

  • @TexasSon74
    @TexasSon74 7 місяців тому +65

    I’m a chemist. It cost less to make a car wash soap than Dawn dish soap. Marketing and sponsorship cost takes 60% of all car wash products.

    • @cyclemadness
      @cyclemadness 7 місяців тому +5

      Let us know that cheap formula please.

    • @TexasSon74
      @TexasSon74 7 місяців тому +1

      @@cyclemadness worked for TCI here in Texas 25 years. We made detergents for every industry thinkable. From bars of soap to aero line detergents. Formula is on a program but it’s cheap and simple.

    • @chrisbradley3224
      @chrisbradley3224 7 місяців тому +2

      @@TexasSon74 Do you know why it is that most of the dish soaps leave a bit of a surfactant film it seems? I notice dish soaps impair the beading of most coatings and sealants for a bit. I noticed that bar soap (Dove) did not do that, and actually brings back the hydrophobics.

    • @TexasSon74
      @TexasSon74 7 місяців тому +4

      @@chrisbradley3224 ph balance to natural additives in body soap make them filmy or not. Most dish soap ph is leveled for glass or cooking type metals or dishes to help to dry easier and degrease better.

    • @hksjoshua
      @hksjoshua 7 місяців тому +1

      Hydrophilics perhaps?

  • @MrCrossj
    @MrCrossj 10 місяців тому +416

    It never dawned on me to try this 😂

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +9

      that's a pretty good one mouhaha. Cheers brother

    • @en1254
      @en1254 10 місяців тому +2

      Hahahaha

    • @RayNLA
      @RayNLA 8 місяців тому +1

      Pun intended?

    • @jspeedking
      @jspeedking 8 місяців тому

      You mean “downed” 😂

    • @andrewgray4356
      @andrewgray4356 7 місяців тому +1

      Its a new dawn my friend

  • @BetterThanNewDetailing
    @BetterThanNewDetailing 10 місяців тому +28

    I told all my customers that after I’ve coated their car they could even use Dawn to wash their cars if they wanted to😂…it’s better than the soaps at a drive thru car wash.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +2

      good point, cheers my friend!

    • @davidvolland7250
      @davidvolland7250 7 місяців тому +2

      Are you sure about that? How would you even know?

    • @BetterThanNewDetailing
      @BetterThanNewDetailing 7 місяців тому

      @@davidvolland7250 well two reasons ….i have 45 years of detailing experience and it’s simple chemistry. Ph level of Dawn is 9…ph levels of most car wash soaps are over 10 and they don’t get rinsed off nearly thoroughly enough…so yeah I’m sure enough.

    • @BetterThanNewDetailing
      @BetterThanNewDetailing 7 місяців тому

      @@davidvolland7250 two reasons….one I’ve been detailing/paint correcting for over 45 years….two it’s simple chemistry…PH level of Dawn is 9, most car wash use ph levels of 10 or more for their wash. PH level of 10 or more is fine if you thoroughly rinse it off…most don’t do a good enough job of that.

    • @Lkmobiledetailservice
      @Lkmobiledetailservice 7 місяців тому +4

      Won’t it just strip the coat u put on ?

  • @jasongraham8140
    @jasongraham8140 8 місяців тому +630

    I've been a show car painter/bodyman for 25 years. You NEVER use dish soap to wash a vehicle unless you plan to reapply protection such as wax

    • @flashnmb1
      @flashnmb1 8 місяців тому +82

      Nailed It; learned that a long time a go; strips all wax & protections from finish.

    • @Rabbit.760
      @Rabbit.760 8 місяців тому +29

      Yes. I do every time and it's no problem

    • @joeschlepp
      @joeschlepp 8 місяців тому +27

      perfect if you need to remove all that gunk prior to repainting.

    • @jeremylarson6267
      @jeremylarson6267 8 місяців тому +14

      you're forgetting he is in canada and his water is more alkaline

    • @RichardsWorld
      @RichardsWorld 8 місяців тому +36

      Wax is from 25 years ago.

  • @nasimwehbe8410
    @nasimwehbe8410 7 місяців тому +13

    I use Dawn once every 6 months to completely strip the car. Then i follow up with an iron remover, clay bar, compound, polish, and wax. Yes wax, im old school. In between i use a car soap from Maguires that protects the wax. My 20 year old paint looks phenomenal.

    • @atrain132
      @atrain132 7 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely nothing wrong with wax!

    • @nasimwehbe8410
      @nasimwehbe8410 7 місяців тому +3

      ​@atrain132 I can't tell you the crap I get from some of my friends for "not getting with the times", but there are great waxes out there. I'm not a big fan of ceramic coatings. I do ceramic coat my wheels and headlights/ tail light, but that's it.

    • @atrain132
      @atrain132 7 місяців тому

      @@nasimwehbe8410 lol, yeah people are weird. Ceramic coatings are great, but I still use wax on some of my cars. Specifically the Soft99 Fusso Coat original formula.
      One of my friends professionally details his cars like me, but he still uses Nu Finish.

    • @fritty9927
      @fritty9927 2 місяці тому +1

      I find carbana wax the easiest to put on and take off. Very forgiving and nothing technical. Some of these newer waxes (coatings) are pain in the ass to get off.

  • @iggysan9480
    @iggysan9480 7 місяців тому +16

    I have used dawn to hand wash my 1998 Toyota pickup, sold it 20yrs later rust free and original paint. Still use dawn on all my rides

  • @enriqueborunda
    @enriqueborunda 7 місяців тому +28

    I have been cleaning my wheels and tires with Dawn for a lot of years with great results all the time.

  • @whiskey723
    @whiskey723 2 місяці тому +4

    I'm not here to advocate for Dawn or any other cleaner. I just want to comment and applaud you for washing a "real dirty" car unlike the other fake UA-cam detailers on here getting paid for product endorsements but pretending like they don't.
    Always washing a Dusty car as proof. Bravo my friend! Bravo!!

  • @bettyboop1524
    @bettyboop1524 5 місяців тому +27

    I had a 2006 Scion that hadn't been washed in years. Then one day I thought I'd give it a treat and wash it. I used Dawn because I wasn't going to spend tons of money on soap. My little car looked so good, no water spots and it even had a little shine to it, I didn't even wipe it down after rinsing. What a wonderful product. I remember when I was a kid, washing a car was a fun afternoon with Dad and my brother, suddzing, spraying each other with water and the tossing of soapy rags/sponges at each other. Now one soap I purchased for my new car has a warning about wearing gloves and eye protection and referred to wet clothes as "contaminated".. What a world we live in now.

  • @VonBluesman
    @VonBluesman 7 місяців тому +122

    My family owned the largest detail shop in the central part of the state. Dawn liquid detergent will strip off the wax off of the car just like it gets rid of cooking oil from kitchen pans. Use an approved car soap that won’t strip the wax off.

    • @wickedbeardz
      @wickedbeardz 7 місяців тому +23

      unless you want it to give you a clean base again.... then u can applay your new wax after.... maybe? just use things correctly know your equipment.

    • @Mojo32
      @Mojo32 7 місяців тому +23

      Well some times "stripping" the wax and such off is exactly what we want, so that we can clean well and reapply.

    • @ravenmans.3228
      @ravenmans.3228 7 місяців тому +9

      After each car wash you always want to apply a ceramic coating anyway you would know that being a detailer

    • @dubblekil
      @dubblekil 7 місяців тому +4

      @@wickedbeardz the issue is that dawn isnt meant to remove wax but it can. so it some spots you can have high spots which will end up with residue and the others being good to go.

    • @Jpilgrim30
      @Jpilgrim30 7 місяців тому +1

      That’s what my step dad always told me. He owned a paint and body shop.

  • @javianjohnson8746
    @javianjohnson8746 3 місяці тому +4

    The M340i in that blue color is such a gorgeous vehicle

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  3 місяці тому

      Thank you brother, it's called San Marino Blau, cheers.

  • @GigOne
    @GigOne 7 місяців тому +9

    I routinely use Dawn to clean the wheels and wheel wells! It's superb against brake dust and road grim!

    • @signor_No
      @signor_No 6 місяців тому

      Because it's an acid degreaser, all the acid shampoo are perfect for brake dust

  • @brettoberry3586
    @brettoberry3586 7 місяців тому +4

    I'm a Miner and we use Dawn to break the surface tension of water and allow the flour gold to sink with the rest of the concentrates when processing ore. Just one drop at a time.

  • @Shadytribe97
    @Shadytribe97 7 місяців тому +6

    Spot on man! I'm a intermediate hobby detailer, and I dish soap as a cheap strip car wash before I paint correct or polish/wax or seal a car. I've had a few people say "You shouldn't use that! It'll damage the cars paint". But exactly as you said MAYBE, only if you use it instead of a good car wash every single wash. But once or twice a yeah when you're literally going to either refine the finish or protect it in a day anyway, It's harmless.

  • @jpdoc5722
    @jpdoc5722 8 місяців тому +37

    thanks 🙏
    they’ve used dawn as well for those wildlife animals that were victims of oil spill, and worked perfectly 👍

    • @bjjbrawler1
      @bjjbrawler1 8 місяців тому +8

      Yes, after the Exxon Valdez disaster they were washing all the ducks in Dawn.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  7 місяців тому +5

      There you go, thanks for watching!

    • @hellomark1
      @hellomark1 7 місяців тому +1

      Oh man, I hate to break it to you, but those critters covered in oil, most of them die. It's usually too late by the time they find them, because they've been trying to clean themselves for hours/days already and most likely ingested a bunch of it. The cleaning is a nice gesture at least. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer

    • @Rapture1469
      @Rapture1469 7 місяців тому +3

      @@hellomark1 They have a new version of the commercial washing an oil covered duckling - since there was no spill that caused it, did they intentionally soak the duck to wash it for the ad?

    • @hksjoshua
      @hksjoshua 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes they did that.

  • @jeffclarke5497
    @jeffclarke5497 3 місяці тому +3

    Thankyou for bringing some reality to the detailing product fantasy land!

  • @riccochet704
    @riccochet704 8 місяців тому +17

    It's great on heavily oxidized gel coat, like an RV. Removes a lot of the loose surface oxidation. This way you aren't clogging up pads as quickly.

  • @ericwright1075
    @ericwright1075 10 місяців тому +4

    In the winter I use Dawn to wash my tires and winter rims . It 🇨🇦👍👍does a really nice job and seems to keep them cleaner longer.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +1

      No shame in it! 🤟🤙. Cheers brother!

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +1

      No shame in it! 🤟🤙. Cheers brother!

  • @joewhite917
    @joewhite917 8 місяців тому +8

    YOU can buy Ph test kits to test the Ph of dawn

  • @dannydaugherty5702
    @dannydaugherty5702 Місяць тому

    I’ve detailed my own cars for 40 years! When I first started out there wasn’t many alternatives to wash 🧼 your car! So Yes I used Dawn / Joy dishwashing soup but I always added some wax or other protection. I say I would still use it but maybe only if I planned on waxing or ceramic coating afterwards 👍👏

  • @eludethis
    @eludethis 8 місяців тому +55

    Dang in 1994 I was 16 washing my dad's car with dawn. That's how I got into detailing lol. Obviously I've moved away from it. Then this video pops up. This may be a good option for degreasing, road grime and salt.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  7 місяців тому +6

      There you go, thanks for watching!

    • @dansanders340
      @dansanders340 7 місяців тому +3

      Pan the organizer explains that the chemistry is meant to be safe for ceramic plates and other hardier materials dishes are made from, relative to car materials. They're cheaper and stronger since they don't have as many hoops to jump through to make a material safe product. I'd only use dawn for windows, or in a pinch as a one time use. It's not even proper to use automotive degreaser long-term as a prewash, and I use that as my snowfoam in a pinch, lol. If you can't tell I'm picky, and suffer from intellectualism causing me to find every reason to have a logical 'proper way' to do things, lmao

    • @jccies5763
      @jccies5763 7 місяців тому +1

      At about the same time I was using Palmolive lol.

    • @michaelkraus4135
      @michaelkraus4135 7 місяців тому +1

      @@dansanders340 HILARIOUS..............DAN !

    • @wtfobiden
      @wtfobiden 7 місяців тому +1

      A Lil dawn will do ya

  • @applepicker9591
    @applepicker9591 3 місяці тому

    I used dawn since I bought my 2014 accord and the paint is still mint up to now. Dawn is good for removing road salts mixed in snow during winter better than all branded car soaps chemicals I’ve tested. Of course my car gets waxed and buffed after every Dawn treatment.

  • @kimnach
    @kimnach 10 місяців тому +6

    I used Dawn when I first started driving in '77 and continued to use up until about 10years ago. Never had an issue with my Mustang II, then a 79 camaro, followed by an 88 IROC. I did switch to dedicated car wash soaps for all our cars.

  • @jdsolberg7613
    @jdsolberg7613 5 місяців тому +2

    Whenever I have a K&N Air Filter that needs cleaning, it gets submerged in a bucket of water generously mixed with Dawn for about fifteen minutes. Shake it in the bucket and rinse.

  • @kxld03
    @kxld03 10 місяців тому +9

    Could be a good prewash. Great stuff

  • @3100fps
    @3100fps 4 місяці тому

    Great post. find a lot of the other detailing sites very confusing because I think their real motivation is selling services and products.

  • @mjw710mjw8
    @mjw710mjw8 8 місяців тому +7

    In years past I always used liquid TIDE to wash my car and once a year I would use DAWN to basically strip away everything on the paint and the use a good paste wax.

    • @truckskate9677
      @truckskate9677 6 місяців тому

      You gotta do that every month lol. Thsy wax coating last about 2 weeks tops if that. One year later they coating is long long gone

  • @WigglesTheDuck
    @WigglesTheDuck 2 місяці тому +1

    PSA: it may be wise to protect the alternator coils and electrical connectors with a plastic bag or something to prevent accidentally damaging either through pressure or introducing water where it isn't designed to handle. It's an engine bay, not a vehicle body. Proceed cautiously.

  • @jayp9450
    @jayp9450 10 місяців тому +4

    It’s a degreaser just like super clean and purple power. It clean wheels really good. Great share!

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +1

      hey my man thanks for chiming in, be careful there those are not comparable, Dawn is still a mild soap PH 9, super clean and purple power are straight up degreaser much more caustic and PH above 12/13 reallt powerful stuff, you shouldn't compare them to Dawn. Cheers be safe

    • @jayp9450
      @jayp9450 10 місяців тому

      @@Detailing_Dogma oh for sure I cut super clean 4:1 rims and 10:1 everything under the kitchen sink interior beside the navigation screen I use water. I spray my latex gloves and massage the product in on the turn signals. You right tho bro super clean full strength can wreck certain things. I never used purple power lol

    • @seashackf1
      @seashackf1 10 місяців тому +2

      ⁠​⁠@@jayp9450be careful with Super Clean. It’s not as metal friendly as the YT detailers stated when they were pushing it some years ago. Especially on Aluminum where it can corrode or etch it. SC even warns about it now when they didn’t then. The detailing world kind of got scammed by them. Purple Power is even worse. Better off to use a metal safe degreaser like Simple Green Pro HD (the purple stuff) or WD40 specialist degreaser which are specifically made to be safe on all metals.

    • @jayp9450
      @jayp9450 10 місяців тому +1

      @@seashackf1 I appreciate the feed back my brotha. 🫡

  • @PoBoy_Trucker
    @PoBoy_Trucker 4 місяці тому +11

    I use Dawn as my windshield washer fluid in my semi truck. Trust me. It’s the best bug and particle cleaner on my glass window. And the cheapest. I fill up water in my washer fluid reservoir. And add several squeezes of dawn

    • @tnhomestead
      @tnhomestead 4 місяці тому +1

      Going to have to try this!

    • @PoBoy_Trucker
      @PoBoy_Trucker 4 місяці тому

      @@tnhomestead it’s great before freezing starts. Then you can’t until temperature change. But definitely. I recommend it

    • @Jason-ml3vs
      @Jason-ml3vs 2 місяці тому

      I do the same thing.

  • @egomaster06
    @egomaster06 8 місяців тому +9

    I have been saying for years Dawn is the best all around cleaner for cars, house/business carpets, vinyl, kitchen walls and floors.

    • @flashnmb1
      @flashnmb1 8 місяців тому

      One caveat; strips all wax or protection

  • @liquidsmokemustang1537
    @liquidsmokemustang1537 5 місяців тому

    Looks like Dawn did a good job. One tip I would share for how you are doing the contact wash is to only move the microfiber mitt in one direction. Preferably front to back on all painted surfaces. This eliminates making any ‘swirl’ micro scratches. When you’re ready for any paint correction, straight micro scratches are much easier to remove than swirling ones.

  • @jonathanmolina3529
    @jonathanmolina3529 7 місяців тому +42

    I had a neighbor that used to wash his car with dish soap. I told him that wasn't a good choice because dish soap is a degreaser and will damage the clear coat with time. He told me he has always done it and it looks good. Not very long after that his car was full of clear coat damage patches

    • @megaman010391
      @megaman010391 7 місяців тому +11

      Soap does not damage your car the sun definitely does. Snow and other factors will also damage your car. Salt etc

    • @jonathanmolina3529
      @jonathanmolina3529 7 місяців тому +5

      @megaman010391 Where I live there is no snow so no salt. Dish soap definitely damages your car. The clear coat's life is oils. Dish soap is a degreaser which dries up your clear coat with time. I've seen it happen plus I am an experienced auto detailer.

    • @ragama623
      @ragama623 7 місяців тому

      ​@jonathanmolina3529 dawn's ph is only slightly higher than most car soaps and its certainly not high or low enough to damage the clear coat
      And people saying dawn will strip everything from the car's surface isnt true. Waxes and sealants these days are really strong and dawn wont do anything to them.
      Just watch project farm of youtube whwre he tested a bunch of waxes / water repellants. It takes a lot of washes to get rid of them.
      Clear coat damage is mostly from the sun. You mention it doesnt snow in your area which means its provably sunny every day

    • @jonathanmolina3529
      @jonathanmolina3529 7 місяців тому +3

      @@megaman010391 You have to remember that using dish soap will strip all the protection your paint has leaving exposed. The only way you could use dish soap and still protect the paint would be waxing the car after every wash. Let say you wash your car every week. Are you going to wax your car 4 times a month?

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo 7 місяців тому +5

      ​@@jonathanmolina3529 don't forget dish soap has hydrophobic and hydrophilic properties. So it will also grap or in this case "strip" chemicals from the paint that aren't oily. So plasticizers, antioxidants, etc..... I've had family ruin their paint with dish soap.........cracks all over.

  • @jayd6607
    @jayd6607 8 місяців тому +2

    Dawn and Tide laundry detergent were my grandaddys go to car cleaning kit. Dawn on car. Tide on the wheels and tires. The tide did a nice job of keeping his white walls and white lettering clean. He also used Nu Finish wax religiously. But back then you could probably only get it or Turtle Wax. That was just his little formula he used to keep the family vehicles looking nice. I dont ever remember any of it causing a problem and they all looked great for the life of the vehicle. Ive got his last car a 2000 Pontiac Bonneville SSEI that looks brand new with the exception of the reflector on the trunk lid which you cannot buy anymore because no one produces it any longer.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  7 місяців тому +1

      Love reading your story thank you!

    • @jayd6607
      @jayd6607 7 місяців тому

      @Detailing_Dogma LOL sorry for the graphic novel I wrote.

  • @Ally.MacMillan
    @Ally.MacMillan 10 місяців тому +3

    Thanks for sharing, very interesting, must admit that's something I've never even thought about myself. I don't think we have Dawn in the UK so have never seen any of the discussions on it.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +1

      Glad you liked the experiment. You guys in europe have similar dish soap try it once and let me know!

    • @BeigeVarsity
      @BeigeVarsity 10 місяців тому +1

      I think Dawn goes by the name of Fairy in the UK and Europe

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому

      thank you!@@BeigeVarsity

  • @rlester39
    @rlester39 8 місяців тому +5

    I use dawn to wash my car and then clay bar it before paint correction it works great for that.

  • @Malachor8091
    @Malachor8091 5 місяців тому +17

    Nothing gets people fired up as much as dawn soap.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  5 місяців тому +1

      Nail on the head, thank you brother, probably the best comment so far! Cheers ✌️

  • @dudeguykach
    @dudeguykach 2 місяці тому

    i washed my black truck with dawn dish soap then spray wax with Maguire's for the last year. It looks pretty good.

  • @brucebaber3172
    @brucebaber3172 4 місяці тому +21

    i was a detailer for 25 years. First thing you tell your customers is to not use "Dish soap"! It cuts grease and WAX ! Don't strip your car with this crap unless you want to reseal/wax your car eery time.I've always told people to use 'Baby Shampoo"! It cleans and doesn't remove any wax or sealer. Also great for carpet cleaning, because it smells good afterwards.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  Місяць тому

      check this out I debunked the myth. ua-cam.com/video/lO6aCR04cj0/v-deo.html

  • @michaeldrust4322
    @michaeldrust4322 2 місяці тому

    That's definitely something I'm gonna start playing around with... maybe adding it to my soaps

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  2 місяці тому

      Thanks for watching, happy detailing. ✌️✌️

  • @Greg_P611
    @Greg_P611 4 місяці тому +4

    I’m a detailer now for 10 years. Dawn is go to soap for washing in the sun. It leaves a film behind to prevent water spots. That’s why your dishes never have spots on them.

    • @dsugi9825
      @dsugi9825 4 місяці тому

      Hi Greg do you usually spray dawn foam and rinse ? Or spray foam and kinda scrub them ?

  • @seawatchmakers
    @seawatchmakers Місяць тому

    Dawn is great for stripping off all wax . I use to use dish cleaner on my mother's car when I was a kid back in the mid sixty's

  • @mtbrdude
    @mtbrdude 6 місяців тому +2

    Dawn doesn't rinse clean. It leaves a residue behind. Just be aware of that if you're planning on putting any sort of protection on top.
    Source: I'm a professional painter. I use Dawn to help prep cabinets for repainting and always wipe with solvents to remove any final residue.

  • @freddixon2902
    @freddixon2902 7 місяців тому +1

    Back in the seventies we used dish soap to strip off wax and embedded dirt before using rubbing compound. It made applying and removing the compound easier and you could get to polish and waxing sooner.

    • @broccolihart1
      @broccolihart1 7 місяців тому

      Wow, you said zaino....that's old school

  • @nomorenonsense
    @nomorenonsense 3 місяці тому +4

    My dad and I have used dish soap to wash our cars for 20 years. We have rust free cars that are close to 20 years old. These cars have been in snow and salt since new. Of course the car detailing companies and lemmings are going to tell you that you need to spend $100s on special soaps.

  • @nelsoncorrection4015
    @nelsoncorrection4015 7 місяців тому +1

    I use dish soap to remove all waxes from paint before I start a Paint correction. And rinse it again if im applying ceramic coating

  • @DC-zp2iq
    @DC-zp2iq 10 місяців тому +3

    ummm, merci pour le video Francois, another good one for sure, good to know about it's Ph level too. Cheers from Edmonton,Alberta

  • @PembsValetingDetailing
    @PembsValetingDetailing Місяць тому

    My dad runs a taxi business and for years used fairy dish soap to wash them, what i found was over time regularly washing with it started to degrade the paintwork and also the vinyl graphics, with a dull to the shine and stripping colour out of the vinyls this also is a similar situation with regular washing with less diluted tfr. don't get me wrong it has great cleaning ability and doesn't matter too much for his business as its more of a preventative maintenance than for visual appeal, with that being said if you're only after something with a bit of bite it's a very versatile cleaning product that can be used for a multitude of things, however, i personally wouldn't use it as you run the risk of clearcoat damage, paint dulling and it will strip any sealants or waxes you use! I will be testing it against a ceramic coating in the future to see how it reacts.

  • @13Mo2
    @13Mo2 10 місяців тому +3

    I knew someone who swore by Sunlight Laundry detergent for washing their vehicles.

  • @michael-ev5fk
    @michael-ev5fk 2 місяці тому

    Good job.
    I've been using Dawn dish soap on my wheels vice exspensive car chemicals for years now, cleans well, no problems. If Dawn can really be used to clean crude oil off waterfowl feathers without injuring birds it should be safe on wheels.

  • @robincortez
    @robincortez 8 місяців тому +3

    I used dawn soap before to wash my car and works great! The only detail is that after that you need to wax your car again because the soap wash out any wax in the paint and the metal fills like a clean dish after you dry it, overall is a great grease cutter and good to remove bugs in the front.

    • @matsudakodo
      @matsudakodo 8 місяців тому

      It's been shown that dish soap doesn't strip protection products unless you repeat 1-2 dozen times. Check Forensic Detailing.

    • @13christbane
      @13christbane 8 місяців тому

      ffs it does not strip wax. and if it did that would be a good thing. wax builds up. you should not use it. use polish.

  • @donnovicki9771
    @donnovicki9771 7 місяців тому +1

    Before I polished my truck I gave it the full Dawn treatment because I knew it would strip everything off the truck.

  • @javigarcia3823
    @javigarcia3823 10 місяців тому +8

    Thanks for the video. A lot of detailers on UA-cam are just pushing products

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +1

      I think some are just regurgitating what they heard without testing the stuff but you're right. I will obviously showcase product to tell a story but im not gonna mislead people. Cheers my friend

    • @GSP-76
      @GSP-76 9 місяців тому

      They all are...total liars.

    • @mandyupr
      @mandyupr 9 місяців тому

      exactly

    • @frankbenavidezakakid7734
      @frankbenavidezakakid7734 8 місяців тому +1

      Hell ya brother these youngsters push all those products and Dawn doses it all and for a cheaper price

  • @Scotty_in_Ohio
    @Scotty_in_Ohio 8 місяців тому +2

    It's always been thought that to "strip" waxes and most sealants you'd use dish soap / washing up liquid - I use a squirt of it (actually generic dish soap) if I'm doing a wash and going to re-wax or seal afterwards. I also use Purple Power Vehicle wash which is even more cost effective. Again if I'm going to re-apply I don't really care if it's going to "strip" the previous stuff off - I'm looking for max clean with min contact... Honestly for most in between washes a good car soap isn't much more expensive and adds back in some level of protection...

    • @13christbane
      @13christbane 8 місяців тому +2

      car wash soap offers 0 protection compared to dawn

    • @cmdrdredd
      @cmdrdredd 7 місяців тому

      @@13christbanedawn has no protection. My god these comments are so dumb. Dawn pulls the wax and sealants OUT it leave a film behind that doesn’t allow wax or sealants to stick.

  • @hunterphfr
    @hunterphfr 7 місяців тому +7

    It works well.
    As long as you want to take your car to Stage Zero and start all over again from the base layer and work up.

  • @999Joseph
    @999Joseph 7 місяців тому +2

    I used dawn and it cleans my car and leaves it looking fresh every times

    • @marcoibarra4570
      @marcoibarra4570 7 місяців тому +1

      Just add new wax just in case so it don’t fade

  • @darylfortney8081
    @darylfortney8081 8 місяців тому +3

    Why do you rinse bottom to top? Thought top to bottom was the understood best way.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  8 місяців тому +1

      Hey Daryl, That way I can keep an eye where I've been with the pressure washer by looking at the foam remaining.

    • @cmdrdredd
      @cmdrdredd 7 місяців тому

      You are doing it right. This is bad advice all around and one of the absolute worse videos on detailing I’ve ever seen.

  • @beri232
    @beri232 5 місяців тому

    I use Dawn for everything! Cleans jewelry extremely well also!

  • @frope01
    @frope01 7 місяців тому +3

    I fill a foaming dispenser with Dawn as hand soap in my bathroom. Only a very small amount is needed per hand wash. Lasts for months. I would use as car wash if I had nothing else.

  • @georgeg.5763
    @georgeg.5763 7 місяців тому

    Dawn was the soap they used on birds that got oil soaked with crude oil. I remember their commercial, it cuts right through petroleum products. Paint and clear are Petroleum products. I definitely never wash in direct sun light much less on a hot day. I've used Dawn once in a while, Palmolive too to cut down dirt contaminants and wax to get a super clean start on waxing and protectant right after rinsing and drying.

  • @BigmanBoo718
    @BigmanBoo718 7 місяців тому +4

    Dawn has been used to clean 🦆 after The Valdez oil spill back in the day. I use it on my truck and cars I had.

  • @rickss69
    @rickss69 Місяць тому

    Works great if you don't mind it stripping all your wax off lol. A strong Dawn solution is what we have always used to prep bodies for sanding and painting.

  • @Eric-fz7on
    @Eric-fz7on 8 місяців тому +7

    The problem with dawn is it leaves a film that hard to rinse off.

    • @dgeldmacher55
      @dgeldmacher55 7 місяців тому

      That's exactly what it does. And people mistake that for their wax being stripped. The wax is still there. The film is preventing the wax from doing its job. Like water beading. Its a fact that most people don't understand.

  • @mikeholley4488
    @mikeholley4488 7 місяців тому

    dawn is the best general purpose soap on earth. It can wash clothes, great bath soap, dishes, good degreaser, washes vinyl siding, windows and it's extremely non hazardous to health. I always keep a spare large bottle for emergencies since it can do everything

  • @Rabbit.760
    @Rabbit.760 8 місяців тому +4

    When i wanna know about a product, i go straight to the data sheet. Dawn has the same protective polymers as car wash. It wont hurt anything more than car soap does

    • @flashnmb1
      @flashnmb1 8 місяців тому

      It will STRIP all protective finishes or wax on all surfaces.

    • @Rabbit.760
      @Rabbit.760 8 місяців тому

      @@flashnmb1 good. Saves me money on have to buy clean slate and there's way better waxes that don't have to be applied by hand anymore. Sio2 spray wax/drying aid is a better protectant and lasts way longer. Spray the car while wet and dry it

  • @robf2403
    @robf2403 7 місяців тому

    I've tried a plethora of mixtures to find the perfect strip wash. Dawn dish soap is the truth. On recent or botched wax or protectant jobs, it may take two or three applications but always gets the job done.

  • @papotuto74gr59
    @papotuto74gr59 8 місяців тому +6

    Swan is the best dish soap plus is the only soap detergent to clean the animals after any oil disaster.

  • @SonnyJohn-j4l
    @SonnyJohn-j4l 4 місяці тому +1

    I've been using Dawn since the early 2000s and Never had an issue. I started using it because of a few setailers I know switched from using WISK after Persuck (Persil) discontinued it. Wisk was the best but Dawn is the best of what's out now. Those that complain must own newer cars; 2017 & newer; with thinner more fragile paint and clear coats. Also it just plain common sense that after you wash your car with Any type of cleaning product that you apply a fresh coat of wax or ceramic sealant. Honestly you get the best result by hand washing your car in the rain and let it rinse the car. It's spit free and then pull in the garage to dry and wax/ceramic coat it.

  • @babartahir9004
    @babartahir9004 7 місяців тому +3

    That’s some thick ass foam 😮!!!

  • @Mashedtaders
    @Mashedtaders Місяць тому

    I've always used Dawn before applying wax.

  • @CL-en8nx
    @CL-en8nx 6 місяців тому +1

    Both my Tacoma and Corolla need a coat of wax so it seems ill be doing a dawn wash soon, followed by an iron decon and then a sealant, thanks for the video.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  6 місяців тому

      happy detailing and thanks for watching!

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher3662 8 місяців тому +3

    For anyone in AUSTRALIA,
    'Dawn' is called 'Fairy' its sold at coles and wollies,
    and yes its the same company and chemicals.

  • @mdkk
    @mdkk 5 місяців тому

    i spray the dawn power wash on the dry car and then just hose it all off, seems to work very well with very little effort or scrubbing

  • @imJustTomy
    @imJustTomy 10 місяців тому +4

    Hy. This is the first vid i saw as someone uses only dawn to clean the car and it is interesting. Keep up the good work. (btw i don't wanna be a jerk, but if you have a 1l foam canon and you put 100ml of solution in it, that is 1:9, not 1:10😅)

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +2

      You're right 1:9 haha! I still hear dawn will remove clear coat so I thought this would be interesting too! Cheers buddy and thank you.

    • @donc89
      @donc89 3 місяці тому

      I thought 1:10 meant 1 out of 10 dilution??

  • @AWAKE_PA
    @AWAKE_PA 25 днів тому

    I beleive Dawn is fine when you're not in extreme heat. In Florida it gets hot and the sun bakes any residual water/detergent into the clear coat, so I like to use Ran X spot free car wash. It helps get water off the car, but it's important to hurry and immediately after rinsing, get that drying towel to it. 3 minutes after rinsing, the sun is already baking water spots into the clear.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  23 дні тому +1

      Thanks for the feedback! I avoid the hot sun as much as possible regardless!

  • @Stainlessautos
    @Stainlessautos 10 місяців тому +3

    I never understood why everyone gave dawn, or any dish soap, a bad name, outside of those marketing their car shampoos. There’s nothing really wrong with it aside from not rinsing as pure as some other products. I would say it looks like it did well as an inexpensive prewash, and is definitely more environmentally friendly than presoaking with an apc or degreaser.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому +1

      agreed, it's did great. Shouldn't be long term issue but obviously I still gather towards dedicated car care products. Cheers brother thank you

  • @gtileo
    @gtileo 8 місяців тому +1

    Considering Geon tells you do a Dish soap wash to prep the paint for their coatings after polishing to get all the oils off, I think it's safe enough to use as a part of a decon wash. Helps break up all that road grim. I'm not sure if it'll be as good as some higher ph soaps like Bilt Hamber, but it's cheap and it'll do a better job then a ph neutral shampoo

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  8 місяців тому

      Exactly right about Gyeon! Everything with moderation should do just fine. Cheers man thanks watching.

  • @darrenmetal3338
    @darrenmetal3338 10 місяців тому +7

    Many of those 'horror stories'' about dawn (or any other dish soap for that matter) are brought into the world by the companies who try to sell their own products. My great grandfather and grandfather were both in the car business and all they used was dish soap. Of course a lot has changed products, chemicals etc. There's nothing wrong with using it as long as you rinse your car well and wax it. I've seen cars which were washed with dish soap for over 20 years or more. No dullness oxidation or what so ever.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  10 місяців тому

      agreed. Cheers my man

    • @simoncote6648
      @simoncote6648 8 місяців тому +1

      And use vim to polish!

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  8 місяців тому +1

      be careful VIM has bleach depending on the version you get. I can make that happen a on a junk panel eventually thanks!@@simoncote6648

  • @robertgrancich6172
    @robertgrancich6172 5 місяців тому

    I use Dawn only as a prep to full wax/polymer re-coat.

  • @robert5
    @robert5 8 місяців тому +1

    My problem when he did the door I could not really tell any difference between the door he sprayed dawn on vs the rear door with just power wash spray. Could it be there is no difference? spraying on soap does nothing?

  • @AnderZ312
    @AnderZ312 6 місяців тому

    For prep washes I like to do a normally foam cannon foam, super high surfactants, then add a good amount of dawn to give it that umph, but when I use dawn I'm doing a reset, trying to strip all silicones and waxes that I can, definitely not for regular maintenance. Absolutely it has replace all of my seemingly niche "ceramic prep wash" soaps, dawn doesn't touch the ceramic so its perfect for the 6mos reup to keep the coating hydrophobic.

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  6 місяців тому

      I like your style, thanks for watching ✌️

  • @FurryMLG
    @FurryMLG 5 місяців тому

    Dawn still is what most Wheel Dealers recommend for cleaning wheels.
    Still love my Citrus Cleaner simply because of the smell, plus it works on carpets too!

  • @rolandbishop9716
    @rolandbishop9716 2 місяці тому

    Better than any carpet cleaner I’ve ever used

  • @JQ3GT
    @JQ3GT 8 місяців тому +1

    I've been using Dawn for years to clean tires and wheels. I put it on undiluted straight to the tire brush though. I use it on the entire car when I'm intending on stripping the wax off.

  • @dpro5321
    @dpro5321 7 місяців тому

    For those of you saying its bad unless you reapply protectants, just use the dawn as a pre-wash like stated, then wash with a wax "ceramic" infused wash soap, and use a wax/ceramic rinse aid or pray and wipe afterwards.
    Most people anymore use a drying aid or spray and wipe afterwards anyways so youll be back to good to go!

  • @GarryMelnyk
    @GarryMelnyk 7 місяців тому

    I use Dawn only to wash my car before waxing in spring. Spray 9 is a good product to use on tires before soaping them down.

  • @HilltopZombieShop
    @HilltopZombieShop 3 місяці тому

    I use Dawn on my Harley and Pledge to shine. Looks great.

  • @audiquagaming
    @audiquagaming 4 місяці тому +1

    Hello from Calgary ! 🇨🇦 great video merci!

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  4 місяці тому

      Love my canadian friends! Thanks for tuning in brother.

  • @owenjohns6301
    @owenjohns6301 4 місяці тому +1

    Shout out to the kirkland microfibers. Very good towels.

  • @Samhain2323
    @Samhain2323 4 місяці тому +1

    Straight Dawn is questionable but keep in mind it is heavily diluted with water !!! My concern is power washing the engine bay !!! Great video !!!

    • @Detailing_Dogma
      @Detailing_Dogma  3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you Sam, fair points. I have cleaned engine bay with common sense for decades havent seen an issue, every detailer use a similar method. Your engine is all sealed up

  • @longstrangetrip3535
    @longstrangetrip3535 7 місяців тому

    I wonder if cascade rinse aid would work in the final rinse in helping eliminate water spots.

  • @desertfoxaz97
    @desertfoxaz97 7 місяців тому

    I have used the Dawn 3x Silver on the paint and the engine as a degreaser. It worked great on both as a cleaner but it does strip all moisture out of everything. So I used a spray wax on the paint and a spray protectant on the engine and my 2003 low mileage Lexus ES300 looks almost brand new. I am trying to figure out what to put on the tires that is not a dust magnet or that super shiny stuff.

  • @dannybgroovin
    @dannybgroovin 8 місяців тому +2

    It’s the best!!!! That’s all I have ever used to wash my car since my first car in 89. It’s the best!!!!