Let me add to the controversy, without the wings he's the same height as the current red hulk but without the butterfly joints. So Hulk is 35$ and the Dragon is adding 50$ worth of wings and butterfly joints 🤔
I was just looking at it like this, for me it’s worth it for a few factors. It’s all new sculpt with a much more intricate body, wings, and tail combo than some deluxe figures that reuse parts. It could’ve easily been the Haslab and hidden behind $150-200 paywall with multiple figure add ons and tiers. It also isn’t a must-have character for everyone which is the perfect opportunity for them to test out a new release strategy for deluxe figures. Hasbro is trying something new and I commend them for it.
The unpainted wings are based on the original look of the character. Since it will not be released ever again, they are giving collectors the two variants of the character.
I’m interested in seeing how that segmented tail works. That’s the most interesting new thing about this figure and I don’t hear any mention of it anywhere.
Been waiting on your input for this. You are correct people who don’t collect imports expect it to be pricier but also don’t know how much accesorios it should come with. I feel like 10-14 inch figures should have this concept but done right. Extra heads, hands, weapons. For me make a planet hulk/ww hulk this fits since that’s a bigger hulk. Saw Dave’s video as well midsized sentinels is also a great idea for this. Hasbro should redo older bafs with today’s tech or explore other characters that aren’t as big as this. They still have plenty of picks in their marvel category. We can add thors Norse mythology since we all know he fights bigger characters there’s multiple ideas they just gotta do it right
If it came with a breath effect and two more accessories and a pointing hand might be worth $85 + hasbro pulse insane shipping and taxes. to me it looks worth about $65 now that Odin figure...now that's worth the price. would be absolutely comical they drop a marvel select dragon man around the same time however, I'm pretty sure hasbro is making sure they never do that anytime soon.
I thought it would land at $100-125 easy. When they revealed the problem ce I have to say I did consider it. Couple of factors, Dragon man isn’t a favorite character of mine. I have a few FF comics with him in it, good but far from my fav FF stories. I kinda got tempted for a bit though. That and I didn’t realize he was only 10’ tall. I could have sworn he was taller. I’ve decided to pass. I’m thinking $40 to $50 would’ve been right.
I really love the look of the figure, but as someone who is moving away from ML to more imports and third party stuff, I think that price is hard to justify. I think it would have been an easy buy at $65.
The Destroyer from the 2-pack with Thor is 9 inches and it's fairly hefty when you hold it. I imagine Thor plus the Destroyer use the same amount of plastic as Dragonman (including the wings) and the MSRP was $59.99. So Hasbro is doing something funky with the math.
It’s a little expensive I was thinking Hasbro was gonna go $69.99 but it’s gonna be hard to get because of the rarity of the original. So I pre ordered. Good video
I don't have any connection to the character of Dragon Man even though that figure looks freaking amazing and the price well it's not bad because I bought some figures around that price. Still to each their own and yeah that's about it.
I almost bought it, but then i checked myself and headed over to 5ktoys , got more bang for my buck with 2 of thise Nanmu studios carnators for bout the same. Nanmu studios raptors are back up aswell
I do think it's probably about $10-20 too much. Thing is, while it's comparable to import figure prices, those are unlicensed/original IPs. If you look at licensed imports of comparable size such as Figuarts, which tend to not have the load out of smaller figures, it's considerably cheaper. Personally, McFarlane's DC mega figs and vehicles is what I think draws the better comparison, and by that, it is too high.
The one thing this figure has though that those independent figures don’t is it’s an obscure Marvel character that has a cult following. It’s the name that brings a bit more value. Fantastic Four collectors or Jack Kirby (i think he drew dragon man) fans etc might want. I always say those indi lines are fantastic but they don’t carry nostalgia. I’m not saying that justifies high price but having a legacy does mean something to a lot of collectors. As Ive come close to my 50s. Nostalgia and legacy/heritage do entice me more now. It has to be more than it “just looks cool”. Especially where action figure prices are at.
10" tall, new mold that isn't going to get much other use, two sets of wings, fully articulated tail, limited run website exclusive. Comparing this to current $50 and $60 marvel legends releases, I feel it is fair.
Well for what you get with most marvel legends, generally I think they’re overpriced already. So this is definitely priced proportionally to its size but only because it’s priced how hasbro prices their figures. You can generally get a lot more uniquely sculpted / painted plastic through marvel select. And marvel select also has to pay that “big” licensing fee to Disney that Hasbros have to talk about so much.
I think they didn't paint the inside of the folded wings to help emphasize more that they are folded. To show off the size difference more effectively. In a lot of the comics the wings are dark with shadow or a much darker pink when folded. You could be right about it just being that way in these renders, too, and maybe it will be painted darker in the final product.
Aye brotha and ninja clan💪💪☝ oh your new logo looks 🔥 🔥 🔥 by the way i just started binge watching all might animated but this figure is dope idk much of the character hes huge and the price is alot especially when you compare to the import it doesn't have alot besides the wings so i can wait its not on my list but stay bless another great content brotha 💪☝🙏🙏🙏
If it was the same price as Odin (not only is Odin cheaper it has more accessories) I would definitely buy it but it’s way overpriced. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is successful enough if hasbro started doing that with anything that’s around the same size as hulk. Hasbro has literally released 12 inch figures (Surtur and Adaptoid) for less than that. This is just a company thats trying to make back all the money on the figures that are piling up at discount stores. Definitely skipping on this and lockjaw’s
Absolutely a pick up for me to go on my Mezco FF display. I love the Third party figures 🔥🔥🔥 so the price is about the same or less than what would spend on a single 3rd party figure.
Gonna have to pass on Dragon Man. Although the Crystal with LockJaw is going to be entering my collection. They'll look good with my retro style Fantastic Four!
Honestly I dont care, I never liked the character, have no need or want for it. If people do good for them. Have fun in Jersey I would go but DFW and Terifficon blew out my budget and My transmission in my car decided to go. So I have to spend this weekend car shopping.
I don't collect marvel legends no more because of their cheap plastic and expensive prices. But I end up preordering this figure hopeing that is big heavy and its badass looking in hand, because if it's not ,this will be the last figure I that I buy on preorder from ASSBrooos
yeah im done with ML too, when i can get mcfarlane for cheaper , come with a stand and a card in every box, plus usually a weapon. no excuses for hasbro
Great video, Ninja. I pre-ordered Dragon Man. I hope he scales well with the animated Apocalypse because he is fitting to be a Horseman. I do not know his marvel backstory but I am an X-Men fan and this cat is going to be an O.G. from when Apocalypse was with his boo Genesis and his kids. Love the show and be well.
I am torn because he is emblematic of an era. But its an era I am not the greatest fan of. More than a 100€ here in EU. I will have to skip it because other coming up imports and some legends have more value to me (mainly wu-kong monkey and a figuarts Rathalos) I agree with on every point of this video. Two sides for sure. Wings and the orange/purple make it really cool. I still think its too expensive for what it is. I dont own any marvel select but that should be the price range with a little extra. I would have maybe gone for it for around 60€.
I'd only get this if I were attached to the character and if this were the only option. At that price I think an import figure would be much higher quality and have more stuff. But if this is the only figure of this character, and you need it, you gotta get it unfortunately.
Love the new logo man!! 🤩 BTW, it's not just the WiNGS and Butterfly joints but also the TAIL. Price seems fair, but over here it is already overpriced (import). 😅 It looks cool but I have no attachment to the character so it is an easy pass for me. Just glad it ain't a haslab. Chances this will get into retail?? or by pre-order only??
I'm in the group that think it's OVERPRICED. But... I know I'm gonna buy it soooo.... I feel like a hypocrite. BUT.... I'm wondering. Why do people believe just because it's "big" or use more plastic mean it should cost a lot? And even if that's so. Then why don't ALL action figures around the same size cost about the same? For example: If a small action figure comes with a TON of accessories. By the logic that it has a lot of plastic being used. Then it should cost the same price as a much bigger fig with little to no extra accessories. So yeah. Just like Ninja said. It's not much bigger than a Marvel Select.
I'll got it. BAFs are good but they just don't work for me as I have to get unnecessary stuff just for the parts. I have been waiting for this one for years and the secondary market prices are ridiculous, so I am happy and don't wanna complain here.
Of course there are right answers and there are wrong answers. We, as human beings, probably can never truly now. Of course, right and wrong answers probably matter less with toys than with truly importnat matters.
I really appreciate your efforts on your video Ninja. This topic has finally breached the fourth wall whenever your opinions echo exactly what I have been thinking. This is not a FuRay yet Hasbro expects a deluxe figure with wings justifies their price tag. The wings don't articulate yet ML can release an Angel with articulated wings at a fraction of the cost? Marvel Select will be releasing their Annihlus with articulated wings at less then half the price of Dragon Man? What about those wings that came with Venom in the Knull 2-pack, and how much was that? The jagged little pill to swallow is Dragon Man is on my wish list. Nostalgia will overtake common sense when I pre-order it. Yet I swear as Odin as my witness the toleration level for ML's dirty tricks are nearing Defcon 4.
There are 2 ways to look at this: from a consumer's perspective and from the seller's perspective. I look at it from both and that is how I justify the value of it. My conclusion is that it is comparable in size to Marvel Select but, that's it. It has better articulation than Select, you won't have to heat it up every time you want to pose it for fear of breaking it, and it will probably be more resistant to scratching and paint rub than Select. The body sculpt is very unique and has little to no chance of being reused. Outside of Hulks, the butterfly joints are rare for deluxe-size and up figures so they do add to the value a little bit. It has not one, but two pairs of wings that, plastic for plastic, account for the lack in accessories, and also have little to no chance of being reused. Is it pricey? Absolutely. But so is a friggin donut nowadays. Hasbro is a business and their purpose is to make money. We all understand that. And there are instances in the past where it definitely looked like they were being greedy on figure/vehicle price points. However, given that this is probably a one-shot deal for them to make money off of this sculpt, I don't think Dragon Man is overpriced. Time will tell as we all know value can change once we have the actual figure in hand. Really, if you want to complain about overpricing, we should all be pointing fingers at the standard size Legends at the $26 price point that are mostly recolored reuse with a little bit of paint here and there and maybe a couple of accessories which often are reused, too.
85 for dragon man is a great prince New deco/mold/body Bendy wire 10 inch tail Height an width Plus I love anything f4 and future foundation Plus look at dragon man figure that’s older it goes for hundreds This being a more accurate comic look an simply looks better with crazy detail is gonna go crazy in the after market
The whole point of Hasbro is that they are cheaper figures with "good enough" articulation relative to the boutique, high end brands. Overpricing defeats the purpose. Might as well buy the high end figure.
I have no desire for DragonMan. Never read anything with him in it so it he means nothing to me. $85 made me go whaaaaat?!? But then I think LooseCollector is around $75 for a much smaller figure. He is sculpted well. Looks painted well where needed (hope they paint the other wings too for those that do want it). So the price in todays market.... I suppose. Would think $65 maaaaaybe $70 would be better. But still a pass for me anyway.
This figure is very niche for those who are filling in a Kirby era Golden Age cast of Fantastic Four/Avengers. So if you ordered a Giant Man Haslab, it's for you. But it's definitely a gouge for those collectors. Oil per barrel is going down. The costs should be as well.
This comment is off topic but have you seen the figure Twelve War Dragon Girl Loong 1/12 scale ? She’s up at BBTS and looks stunning plus she comes with a nice amount. Just wanted to share to get your thoughts
This is off topic but i think you should add a black wash to that marvel legends carnage from venom 2 as soon as you get it. The figure has a great sculpt/decent articulation but the paint is unfortunately lacking and a simple black was can really make it stand out in your display
Get used to it, these are going to be a main part of collecting marvel legends soon. Less mass releases, lower production numbers, Hasbro pulse exclusives, and higher prices with fewer units made.
Hmmmm, not a figure I’m interested in, but sometimes I feel like all these figures from every source are overpriced. Some of these companies really take us to the cleaners. Definitely makes me pick and choose. I wish I was off work tonight for your live, always such a fun time! ❤
I have the OG Dragonman in my collection, not sure if I will be getting this one. Might have to pass on it. I will be at Play with This in Merchantville New Jersey this saturday, can't make it to ToyConNJ.
I mentioned this on another channel, but NECA's Gargoyles are comparable in size with wings, but they're half the price... Looks cool, but the lack of value keeps me out.
Personally I think the price is right, however I would've preferred articulated wings instead of two different sets. A flame effect would've been cool as well.
For $15-$20 dollars less I would’ve been on board. Nobody can convince me it is worth the price. If it came with more accessories then maybe. They gotta make it worth my money. I think they’re pulling the wool over our shoulders. I don’t think there’s paint apps here. I bet it’s just the lighting to make it look like there’s paint apps. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. They would have to show me at Pulse con.
Not apologizing the price TOO much... but at least Hasbro included spread and relaxed wings in the same package instead of making collectors chase them across multiple figures. NECA.
I think the price is is just alright. It’s not great but not offensive. Sadly if you’re a marvel collector there’s no great option anymore even imports like mafex are giving you less bang for your buck.
12 inch marvel legends were 49.99 or 59.99 when they put those out years ago. hulk was around 100 usd with tax and delivery when he was released in the line. seems like dragon man came in at a good price based on that.
@@suhtangwong if hulk was almost 100 and dragon man seems like he is close to hulks measurements its a solid deal. even factoring in inflation dragon man comes in cheaper than the 12 inch hulk who would be over 100 usd with inflation and tax + shipping. in todays money.
Agree but hasbro very cunningly released the price for the inhuman with dog 2 pack for $70 to make you feel this is a good deal along with how they price their haslab giant man $200… psychological marketing scheme😅
Valaverse could make your figure. He could be a very flexible assassin who speaks verses from different holy books while he kills you in battle. Confusious say, "Man who go to sleep with itchy butt wakes up with stinky finger."
This price point is a little too steep for me, considering that imports and other companies have better sculpts and more points of articulation. also DragonMan is not really a well known character, if this was Galactus or as mentioned in the video an updated mutant hunting sentry robot that would push me over the edge to get. when i first saw this i thought it was a reissue of the original build a figure from a few years back. i noticed that Hasboro has been reissuing previous sculpts as pre-orders
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It's not a bad looking figure. And it's something that hasn't been offered before. I noticed that hasbro is digging into the character archives and putting out characters from the comics and not the movies. Isn't that what ML collectors want? As for the price tag, well if someone wants something bad enough they will pay $$$$.
For hasbro it’s not the worst. Which is sad to say. Like most I thought it was gonna be $100. $85 is overpriced but that’s all of hasbros products. They’ll never give us what we’re paying for. I did preorder this because I’ve wanted a dragon man forever but I am not happy at all
Without the wings it’s $34.99. With one pair of wings $44.99. With everything I would say roughly $55. How much was that Angel figure $36 with one set of wings, but he’s smaller. Red Hulk is close in height and is $34.99 at Target. Super Adaptoid was sold at $69.99. It’s now $30. Well, unless you go to Ollie’s. It shouldn’t be $86.
I think it's a bit over-priced, especially when you factor in that they don't have to give a store a cut of the price since they're selling it directly. Heck, if it *was* more widely available the price would have most likely been where people expected it to be. The current price would be more palatable if it came with some more accessories. Some flame effects at the very least. That would have made the $85 feel more worth it. I still plan on getting it, but I'm not as happy as I would have been if the price was lower and/or it came with some more accessories (why no flame effects Hasbro?!?!?).
I don’t have a connection to the character so no nostalgia for me. I’m getting him because he’ll look cool with my fantasy figs. I do think the price is about $20 too much.
Let me add to the controversy, without the wings he's the same height as the current red hulk but without the butterfly joints. So Hulk is 35$ and the Dragon is adding 50$ worth of wings and butterfly joints 🤔
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@@SanicSez😂 Bruh what? 😂
Wait as big as red hulk? I thought this was bigger. Hell no 90 is way too much even with the wings.
That red hulk isn’t a unique sculpt they’ve reused that red hulk sculpt how many times?
I was just looking at it like this, for me it’s worth it for a few factors. It’s all new sculpt with a much more intricate body, wings, and tail combo than some deluxe figures that reuse parts. It could’ve easily been the Haslab and hidden behind $150-200 paywall with multiple figure add ons and tiers. It also isn’t a must-have character for everyone which is the perfect opportunity for them to test out a new release strategy for deluxe figures. Hasbro is trying something new and I commend them for it.
Neca Gargoyles have amazing wings for cheap
Wings, heads, hands, complete paint job, and accessories for under half the price!
The unpainted wings are based on the original look of the character. Since it will not be released ever again, they are giving collectors the two variants of the character.
@@comicbookbin yea thanks, they said that in live after this video was already posted.
I’m interested in seeing how that segmented tail works. That’s the most interesting new thing about this figure and I don’t hear any mention of it anywhere.
bendy wire tail
Been waiting on your input for this. You are correct people who don’t collect imports expect it to be pricier but also don’t know how much accesorios it should come with. I feel like 10-14 inch figures should have this concept but done right. Extra heads, hands, weapons. For me make a planet hulk/ww hulk this fits since that’s a bigger hulk. Saw Dave’s video as well midsized sentinels is also a great idea for this. Hasbro should redo older bafs with today’s tech or explore other characters that aren’t as big as this. They still have plenty of picks in their marvel category. We can add thors Norse mythology since we all know he fights bigger characters there’s multiple ideas they just gotta do it right
If it came with a breath effect and two more accessories and a pointing hand might be worth $85 + hasbro pulse insane shipping and taxes.
to me it looks worth about $65
now that Odin figure...now that's worth the price.
would be absolutely comical they drop a marvel select dragon man around the same time
however, I'm pretty sure hasbro is making sure they never do that anytime soon.
True catty good points
Definitely said this just two small things away from making the price worth the argument
I think Marvel select would have also done a great job with a character like that, for almost a third of the price. They proved it before.
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Love how you made Dragon Man's move in the background!
"It has to be the wings" is the argument you use when you regret eating that KFC a few hours later. 💀
I thought it would land at $100-125 easy. When they revealed the problem ce I have to say I did consider it.
Couple of factors, Dragon man isn’t a favorite character of mine. I have a few FF comics with him in it, good but far from my fav FF stories. I kinda got tempted for a bit though.
That and I didn’t realize he was only 10’ tall. I could have sworn he was taller.
I’ve decided to pass. I’m thinking $40 to $50 would’ve been right.
I really love the look of the figure, but as someone who is moving away from ML to more imports and third party stuff, I think that price is hard to justify. I think it would have been an easy buy at $65.
Yea 65 would of gone over way better I think it's worth that but I agree very hard to justify because of the simply the wings.
@@ArticulatedNinja Yeah, I like the idea of wings, but in reality, I can never pose them dynamic enough to justify having them.
$65 really?? You're being too generous to Hasbro.
The Destroyer from the 2-pack with Thor is 9 inches and it's fairly hefty when you hold it. I imagine Thor plus the Destroyer use the same amount of plastic as Dragonman (including the wings) and the MSRP was $59.99.
So Hasbro is doing something funky with the math.
It’s a little expensive I was thinking Hasbro was gonna go $69.99 but it’s gonna be hard to get because of the rarity of the original. So I pre ordered.
Good video
I don't have any connection to the character of Dragon Man even though that figure looks freaking amazing and the price well it's not bad because I bought some figures around that price. Still to each their own and yeah that's about it.
I almost bought it, but then i checked myself and headed over to 5ktoys , got more bang for my buck with 2 of thise Nanmu studios carnators for bout the same. Nanmu studios raptors are back up aswell
I do think it's probably about $10-20 too much. Thing is, while it's comparable to import figure prices, those are unlicensed/original IPs. If you look at licensed imports of comparable size such as Figuarts, which tend to not have the load out of smaller figures, it's considerably cheaper. Personally, McFarlane's DC mega figs and vehicles is what I think draws the better comparison, and by that, it is too high.
If your charging me 85 bucks your figure better be premium plastic like 5ktoys because boy oh boy they'll be a lot of collecters dissapionted
The one thing this figure has though that those independent figures don’t is it’s an obscure Marvel character that has a cult following. It’s the name that brings a bit more value. Fantastic Four collectors or Jack Kirby (i think he drew dragon man) fans etc might want. I always say those indi lines are fantastic but they don’t carry nostalgia. I’m not saying that justifies high price but having a legacy does mean something to a lot of collectors. As Ive come close to my 50s. Nostalgia and legacy/heritage do entice me more now. It has to be more than it “just looks cool”. Especially where action figure prices are at.
10" tall, new mold that isn't going to get much other use, two sets of wings, fully articulated tail, limited run website exclusive. Comparing this to current $50 and $60 marvel legends releases, I feel it is fair.
Well for what you get with most marvel legends, generally I think they’re overpriced already. So this is definitely priced proportionally to its size but only because it’s priced how hasbro prices their figures. You can generally get a lot more uniquely sculpted / painted plastic through marvel select. And marvel select also has to pay that “big” licensing fee to Disney that Hasbros have to talk about so much.
@@WeeaboohJones Marvel select figures barely pose. I have their hulks, and they can't do too much.
@@Gorger12 they pose about as well as this dragon man is going to pose, except he has butterfly joints
@@Gorger12they pose pretty damn well
Tbf I cut out a tiny chunk of plastic but the articulation is there and it’s only improving
I think they didn't paint the inside of the folded wings to help emphasize more that they are folded. To show off the size difference more effectively. In a lot of the comics the wings are dark with shadow or a much darker pink when folded. You could be right about it just being that way in these renders, too, and maybe it will be painted darker in the final product.
HA HA HA
To think some people were speculating at least $125 or $150.
$84.99 is too much. $69.99 works.
I'm guessing hasbro is going to reuse the mold for an "updated" Abomination & sell that for $85
stegron maybe?
@@banquetoftheleviathan1404 sure why not? Hasbro can repaint it & sell for $85. The skies the limit with this mold lolz
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Love the new Intro
Your new opening screen is sharp. Now all you need is to mass produce your action figure to fight Odious and that'll be what's up
Aye brotha and ninja clan💪💪☝ oh your new logo looks 🔥 🔥 🔥 by the way i just started binge watching all might animated but this figure is dope idk much of the character hes huge and the price is alot especially when you compare to the import it doesn't have alot besides the wings so i can wait its not on my list but stay bless another great content brotha 💪☝🙏🙏🙏
Fully articulated jaw and tongue. I think they said two wings for two different reference points. And a ten inch bendy wire tail too I believe. 🤷♂️
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If it was the same price as Odin (not only is Odin cheaper it has more accessories) I would definitely buy it but it’s way overpriced. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is successful enough if hasbro started doing that with anything that’s around the same size as hulk. Hasbro has literally released 12 inch figures (Surtur and Adaptoid) for less than that. This is just a company thats trying to make back all the money on the figures that are piling up at discount stores. Definitely skipping on this and lockjaw’s
Absolutely a pick up for me to go on my Mezco FF display. I love the Third party figures 🔥🔥🔥 so the price is about the same or less than what would spend on a single 3rd party figure.
Gonna have to pass on Dragon Man. Although the Crystal with LockJaw is going to be entering my collection. They'll look good with my retro style Fantastic Four!
Honestly I dont care, I never liked the character, have no need or want for it. If people do good for them. Have fun in Jersey I would go but DFW and Terifficon blew out my budget and My transmission in my car decided to go. So I have to spend this weekend car shopping.
Hasbro is still trippin. They must have it on tap over there. It's not for me, especially for $85. lol
I agree the price ain't bad for Hasbro but it's still bad in general wish it was lower or came with more.
Dragon Man has no articulated wings..not yet..😆
I don't collect marvel legends no more because of their cheap plastic and expensive prices. But I end up preordering this figure hopeing that is big heavy and its badass looking in hand, because if it's not ,this will be the last figure I that I buy on preorder from ASSBrooos
yeah im done with ML too, when i can get mcfarlane for cheaper , come with a stand and a card in every box, plus usually a weapon. no excuses for hasbro
Great video, Ninja. I pre-ordered Dragon Man. I hope he scales well with the animated Apocalypse because he is fitting to be a Horseman. I do not know his marvel backstory but I am an X-Men fan and this cat is going to be an O.G. from when Apocalypse was with his boo Genesis and his kids. Love the show and be well.
I am torn because he is emblematic of an era. But its an era I am not the greatest fan of.
More than a 100€ here in EU.
I will have to skip it because other coming up imports and some legends have more value to me (mainly wu-kong monkey and a figuarts Rathalos)
I agree with on every point of this video. Two sides for sure. Wings and the orange/purple make it really cool. I still think its too expensive for what it is.
I dont own any marvel select but that should be the price range with a little extra. I would have maybe gone for it for around 60€.
That $150 comment was crazy. Who tf is paying 150 for dragon man lmaoo
Unfortunately every hobby is expensive these days.
this should be no more than 50$ no excuses.
I'd only get this if I were attached to the character and if this were the only option. At that price I think an import figure would be much higher quality and have more stuff. But if this is the only figure of this character, and you need it, you gotta get it unfortunately.
Love the new logo man!! 🤩
BTW, it's not just the WiNGS and Butterfly joints but also the TAIL. Price seems fair, but over here it is already overpriced (import). 😅 It looks cool but I have no attachment to the character so it is an easy pass for me. Just glad it ain't a haslab. Chances this will get into retail?? or by pre-order only??
Good points as always my friend. Keep up the fight Ninja 🤝
I'm in the group that think it's OVERPRICED. But... I know I'm gonna buy it soooo.... I feel like a hypocrite.
BUT....
I'm wondering. Why do people believe just because it's "big" or use more plastic mean it should cost a lot?
And even if that's so. Then why don't ALL action figures around the same size cost about the same?
For example:
If a small action figure comes with a TON of accessories. By the logic that it has a lot of plastic being used. Then it should cost the same price as a much bigger fig with little to no extra accessories.
So yeah. Just like Ninja said. It's not much bigger than a Marvel Select.
Then you're in the %99 group in this channel
See what they need here is some cups and patches to even it out for this price point 😁
Hasbro def needs to do this instead of haslabs
I'll got it. BAFs are good but they just don't work for me as I have to get unnecessary stuff just for the parts. I have been waiting for this one for years and the secondary market prices are ridiculous, so I am happy and don't wanna complain here.
Wings/hulk was a very good point
Of course there are right answers and there are wrong answers.
We, as human beings, probably can never truly now.
Of course, right and wrong answers probably matter less with toys than with truly importnat matters.
I really appreciate your efforts on your video Ninja. This topic has finally breached the fourth wall whenever your opinions echo exactly what I have been thinking. This is not a FuRay yet Hasbro expects a deluxe figure with wings justifies their price tag. The wings don't articulate yet ML can release an Angel with articulated wings at a fraction of the cost? Marvel Select will be releasing their Annihlus with articulated wings at less then half the price of Dragon Man? What about those wings that came with Venom in the Knull 2-pack, and how much was that? The jagged little pill to swallow is Dragon Man is on my wish list. Nostalgia will overtake common sense when I pre-order it. Yet I swear as Odin as my witness the toleration level for ML's dirty tricks are nearing Defcon 4.
with out the wings pretty much it will be a marvel select action figure.
There are 2 ways to look at this: from a consumer's perspective and from the seller's perspective. I look at it from both and that is how I justify the value of it. My conclusion is that it is comparable in size to Marvel Select but, that's it. It has better articulation than Select, you won't have to heat it up every time you want to pose it for fear of breaking it, and it will probably be more resistant to scratching and paint rub than Select. The body sculpt is very unique and has little to no chance of being reused. Outside of Hulks, the butterfly joints are rare for deluxe-size and up figures so they do add to the value a little bit. It has not one, but two pairs of wings that, plastic for plastic, account for the lack in accessories, and also have little to no chance of being reused. Is it pricey? Absolutely. But so is a friggin donut nowadays. Hasbro is a business and their purpose is to make money. We all understand that. And there are instances in the past where it definitely looked like they were being greedy on figure/vehicle price points. However, given that this is probably a one-shot deal for them to make money off of this sculpt, I don't think Dragon Man is overpriced. Time will tell as we all know value can change once we have the actual figure in hand. Really, if you want to complain about overpricing, we should all be pointing fingers at the standard size Legends at the $26 price point that are mostly recolored reuse with a little bit of paint here and there and maybe a couple of accessories which often are reused, too.
Fckkkk no 85 I thought that price was a joke , it's real that's wild, this 50 tops
🤣🤣 be nice be nice
85 for dragon man is a great prince
New deco/mold/body
Bendy wire 10 inch tail
Height an width
Plus I love anything f4 and future foundation
Plus look at dragon man figure that’s older it goes for hundreds
This being a more accurate comic look an simply looks better with crazy detail is gonna go crazy in the after market
The whole point of Hasbro is that they are cheaper figures with "good enough" articulation relative to the boutique, high end brands. Overpricing defeats the purpose. Might as well buy the high end figure.
I have no desire for DragonMan. Never read anything with him in it so it he means nothing to me. $85 made me go whaaaaat?!? But then I think LooseCollector is around $75 for a much smaller figure. He is sculpted well. Looks painted well where needed (hope they paint the other wings too for those that do want it). So the price in todays market.... I suppose. Would think $65 maaaaaybe $70 would be better. But still a pass for me anyway.
It should have been $50 at most.
How could it be $50? The blob is 70 so you think this should be cheaper than blob?
This figure is very niche for those who are filling in a Kirby era Golden Age cast of Fantastic Four/Avengers. So if you ordered a Giant Man Haslab, it's for you. But it's definitely a gouge for those collectors. Oil per barrel is going down. The costs should be as well.
It should have come with more, but i am still getting it.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step. Bravo.
This comment is off topic but have you seen the figure Twelve War Dragon Girl Loong 1/12 scale ? She’s up at BBTS and looks stunning plus she comes with a nice amount. Just wanted to share to get your thoughts
This is off topic but i think you should add a black wash to that marvel legends carnage from venom 2 as soon as you get it. The figure has a great sculpt/decent articulation but the paint is unfortunately lacking and a simple black was can really make it stand out in your display
What's up My NINJA 🐢
I think this DragonMan🤔 is a test, a beta test… to see if people gravitate to the price… with less accessories... but that’s just my opinion.
The price makes sense since they will not be able to reuse the mold much.
Get used to it, these are going to be a main part of collecting marvel legends soon. Less mass releases, lower production numbers, Hasbro pulse exclusives, and higher prices with fewer units made.
@@goboy45 I could see that yea most likely
Hey Ninja, Marvel select Annihilus is 7 inches with wings (similar details) and priced at 30$
Hmmmm, not a figure I’m interested in, but sometimes I feel like all these figures from every source are overpriced. Some of these companies really take us to the cleaners. Definitely makes me pick and choose. I wish I was off work tonight for your live, always such a fun time! ❤
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Yup, cheaper than expected *and* too expensive. He looked taller than 10" next to Mr. Fantastic in those promos too.
I just got the Marvel Legends Sentinels today, just not the time to open them yet.
Don't know about this guy...yet.
Man, i am thinking about going to toycon NJ ... Might have to come through lol!
I ll be floating around the floor for a few hours with my logo on if you do stop by say wassup.
I have the OG Dragonman in my collection, not sure if I will be getting this one. Might have to pass on it. I will be at Play with This in Merchantville New Jersey this saturday, can't make it to ToyConNJ.
It’s gorgeous. The best Dragon Man figure that will ever be made. End of story.
I mentioned this on another channel, but NECA's Gargoyles are comparable in size with wings, but they're half the price... Looks cool, but the lack of value keeps me out.
How much was Surtur when it released?
is the tail poseable?
Personally I think the price is right, however I would've preferred articulated wings instead of two different sets. A flame effect would've been cool as well.
They would make it more expensive.
I’m not getting this
For $15-$20 dollars less I would’ve been on board. Nobody can convince me it is worth the price. If it came with more accessories then maybe. They gotta make it worth my money. I think they’re pulling the wool over our shoulders. I don’t think there’s paint apps here. I bet it’s just the lighting to make it look like there’s paint apps. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt. They would have to show me at Pulse con.
Not apologizing the price TOO much... but at least Hasbro included spread and relaxed wings in the same package instead of making collectors chase them across multiple figures. NECA.
I think the price is is just alright. It’s not great but not offensive. Sadly if you’re a marvel collector there’s no great option anymore even imports like mafex are giving you less bang for your buck.
12 inch marvel legends were 49.99 or 59.99 when they put those out years ago. hulk was around 100 usd with tax and delivery when he was released in the line. seems like dragon man came in at a good price based on that.
Compared to today's money standard that would be like $100+
@@suhtangwong if hulk was almost 100 and dragon man seems like he is close to hulks measurements its a solid deal. even factoring in inflation dragon man comes in cheaper than the 12 inch hulk who would be over 100 usd with inflation and tax + shipping. in todays money.
Agree but hasbro very cunningly released the price for the inhuman with dog 2 pack for $70 to make you feel this is a good deal along with how they price their haslab giant man $200… psychological marketing scheme😅
Valaverse could make your figure. He could be a very flexible assassin who speaks verses from different holy books while he kills you in battle. Confusious say, "Man who go to sleep with itchy butt wakes up with stinky finger."
This price point is a little too steep for me, considering that imports and other companies have better sculpts and more points of articulation. also DragonMan is not really a well known character, if this was Galactus or as mentioned in the video an updated mutant hunting sentry robot that would push me over the edge to get. when i first saw this i thought it was a reissue of the original build a figure from a few years back. i noticed that Hasboro has been reissuing previous sculpts as pre-orders
they can resuse some psarts of the mold for devil hulk.
Toy collecting Ballon i$ going to pop😂, and consumers not collectors are upset. This is where I'm $lowly closing my wallet and awkwardly walking backwards 💰. Everybody hurt$📸🎭
It's Hasbro. It's overpriced.
Its a good enough price to make it worth the purchase if you're into legends. Im not, id spend .ore on a import personally
It's not a bad looking figure. And it's something that hasn't been offered before. I noticed that hasbro is digging into the character archives and putting out characters from the comics and not the movies. Isn't that what ML collectors want?
As for the price tag, well if someone wants something bad enough they will pay $$$$.
For hasbro it’s not the worst. Which is sad to say. Like most I thought it was gonna be $100. $85 is overpriced but that’s all of hasbros products. They’ll never give us what we’re paying for. I did preorder this because I’ve wanted a dragon man forever but I am not happy at all
Love the new logo!
Without the wings it’s $34.99. With one pair of wings $44.99. With everything I would say roughly $55. How much was that Angel figure $36 with one set of wings, but he’s smaller. Red Hulk is close in height and is $34.99 at Target. Super Adaptoid was sold at $69.99. It’s now $30. Well, unless you go to Ollie’s. It shouldn’t be $86.
I think it's a bit over-priced, especially when you factor in that they don't have to give a store a cut of the price since they're selling it directly. Heck, if it *was* more widely available the price would have most likely been where people expected it to be. The current price would be more palatable if it came with some more accessories. Some flame effects at the very least. That would have made the $85 feel more worth it. I still plan on getting it, but I'm not as happy as I would have been if the price was lower and/or it came with some more accessories (why no flame effects Hasbro?!?!?).
Easy pass...😆
I don’t have a connection to the character so no nostalgia for me. I’m getting him because he’ll look cool with my fantasy figs.
I do think the price is about $20 too much.
I ordered it. He fought Spiderman once, and i caved lol