Baldur's Gate Divine Spell Guide Level 7

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  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2020
  • Hi this is the 7th and final video going over every divine spell in the baldur's gate series. This includes spells added from IWD via SCS mod and includes both druid and cleric spells.
    I play the enhanced edition with SCS on insane difficulty and no saves no reloads so this video is focused on that, but most of what I say applies to core rules unmodded as well.
    Big thanks to felix for sorting the spells here!
    S tier
    - Creeping Doom 6:51
    - Impervious Sanctity of Mind 15:32
    - Regeneration 21:53
    - Greater Divine Protection 41:41
    - Greater Restoration 43:10
    - Symbol, Stun 49:34
    A tier
    - Shield of the Archons 25:16
    - Sunray (tier unmentioned) 46:17
    B tier
    - Nature’s beauty 19:54
    - Ether Gate 28:31
    - Holy Word 31:24
    - Gate 38:52
    - Resurrection 44:50
    - Symbol, Hopelessness (tier unmentioned) 48:38
    C tier
    - Confusion 1:42
    - Conjure Earth Elemental 4:34
    - Earthquake 9:44
    - Fire Storm 13:29
    - Mist of Eldath 18:29
    - Stalker 27:21
    - Finger of Death 34:15
    - Destruction 35:52
    - Energy Drain (almost RP tier) 37:24
    - Symbol, Death 47:39
    - Symbol, Fear 48:07
    - Symbol, Pain 49:11
    - Unholy Word 51:19
    If you would like to see me play live, my twitch stream can be found here / davaeorn I stream daily starting at 10 am EST.
    Let me know what you think in the comments, God bless!
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  • @jfelixvb
    @jfelixvb 4 роки тому +76

    S tier
    - Creeping Doom 6:51
    - Impervious Sanctity of Mind 15:32
    - Regeneration 21:53
    - Greater Divine Protection 41:41
    - Greater Restoration 43:10
    - Symbol, Stun 49:34
    A tier
    - Shield of the Archons 25:16
    - Sunray (tier unmentioned) 46:17
    B tier
    - Nature’s beauty 19:54
    - Ether Gate 28:31
    - Holy Word 31:24
    - Gate 38:52
    - Resurrection 44:50
    - Symbol, Hopelessness (tier unmentioned) 48:38
    C tier
    - Confusion 1:42
    - Conjure Earth Elemental 4:34
    - Earthquake 9:44
    - Fire Storm 13:29
    - Mist of Eldath 18:29
    - Stalker 27:21
    - Finger of Death 34:15
    - Destruction 35:52
    - Energy Drain (almost RP tier) 37:24
    - Symbol, Death 47:39
    - Symbol, Fear 48:07
    - Symbol, Pain 49:11
    - Unholy Word 51:19
    You forgot to mention the tier of a few spells, most of them I could guess, but some I wasn’t sure. I marked them as “tier unmentioned” so you can put them wherever you like.
    Thanks again for the great video. I can’t wait for the kit/class one.

  • @Green-tf8uw
    @Green-tf8uw 4 роки тому +18

    Well... Well... Well... Look who is back.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Finally! God bless friend

    • @Green-tf8uw
      @Green-tf8uw 4 роки тому +1

      @@Davaeornlol good to have you back, some of us were worried

  • @bjorksBOSSlevel
    @bjorksBOSSlevel 2 роки тому +3

    You have NO IDEA how useful your vids are, bruv. Your insight takes this game to the next level.

  • @eraflure4594
    @eraflure4594 4 роки тому +55

    Regeneration has the 69 symbol which is the strongest symbol. Any other level 7 spell is superfluous

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +18

      An excellent observation friend, If i re do this list i will make sure to include this.

    • @Gloriath1
      @Gloriath1 4 роки тому

      nice

    • @Green-Raccoon777
      @Green-Raccoon777 Рік тому

      I didn't know the Cancer symbol was over-powered.

  • @francis5600
    @francis5600 4 роки тому +9

    Damn man, I've played these game so many times and the best thing about them is that I always find or see something new with each playthrough, usually just little details nowadays, thought I knew the magic system prety well but this is pro. You're the first youtuber/streamer i've seen go into this level of detail and it's awesome. Thanks man

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

    • @francis5600
      @francis5600 4 роки тому

      @@Davaeornlol god bless you sir

  • @theultimateduck401
    @theultimateduck401 4 роки тому +3

    Loving it bro, great job!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Appreciate it! Thanks for watching friend

  • @weissblitz100
    @weissblitz100 4 роки тому

    Thank you for another great video! I have to commend you, that you never give up and keep on going on BG1 and BG2!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Never ever! Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @alan__6453
    @alan__6453 4 роки тому

    I just need you to know how much I love your videos and how informative and entertaining you are. I never watch twitch because I just don’t have the time with work/family but I always listen to your videos in the car on the way from work or at night if I’m gaming. Gonna try and catch a stream of yours soon

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Awesome man I'm glad you enjoy them! God bless you and thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @playlists987
    @playlists987 4 роки тому +6

    It was this series that convinced me to try BG trilogy again after struggling on easy. With this knowledge, you've helped me beat it on core.
    Thank you for putting this out there.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Glad to hear it friend thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @Gnoll-1337
    @Gnoll-1337 4 роки тому +14

    I can 100% confirm greater restoration used to hit everyone in the original game. It’s the only way I was able to beat the game as a kid when I extremely poorly sped’d characters 😂

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +4

      Lol I'm sure I did the same then, I feel like I should have remembered but i spent so much time playing video games its starting to blur for me. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @baldanders
    @baldanders 4 роки тому +1

    I really like these videos man, so much more you can do....Races/Classes, party compositions, combat/creature guides......what a game, and you make it look so easy! I can barely play it on normal and always save scum

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      You'll be no save no reload soon enough buddy ill make a convert out of you yet. Thanks for watching and commenting friend

  • @SCDJMU
    @SCDJMU 4 роки тому +1

    Finally! Great way to start the day!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Hell yeah buddy hope you have an awesome day today too.

  • @eugenelee8955
    @eugenelee8955 2 роки тому

    Your spell guides are really awesome! One thing about priest and mage fiend summoning spells. With my version of SCS, lawful characters will get devils (bone fiend, cornugon and pit fiend) and chaotic characters will get demons (Nabassu, Glabrezu and Balor). Neutral characters will get a random one.

  • @squashedeyeball
    @squashedeyeball 4 роки тому

    Cheers Dav!! You did man... Arcane and Divine spells guide, completed. The GOAT of BG, with the GOAT guides.
    Can't wait for the class/kit guide :)
    Ghast striking as +4? Wow... That's news to me :)
    17:40 "Eyeball people", these are my dudes

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah ghouls / ghasts are opaf who knew. You'll always be my favorite eyeball buddy you know me, God bless you friend!

    • @squashedeyeball
      @squashedeyeball 4 роки тому

      @@Davaeornlol Bless you brother!
      I see that i missed the stream :| I'll catch up on it. But it's so good that you're back man!

  • @rynenapier1095
    @rynenapier1095 4 роки тому +6

    with the resurrection spell, you can use it as just a heal, it says range is "touch" but its actually pretty far, so can be used as a heal but from a safe distance, same with the rod of res

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Good point! Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @howdoilogin
    @howdoilogin Рік тому

    43:55 Yes, I learned about that recently. In OG BG2: SoA it healed _one_ person, but when they released Throne of Bhaal it was changed unintentionally to affect the entire party. That was a bug that the EEs fixed.

  • @Kai-tn4yx
    @Kai-tn4yx Рік тому +1

    Nature's Beauty is amazing for me. I've never had it not work, outside of the fact that it can't overcome magic resistance.

  • @cbh3968
    @cbh3968 4 роки тому

    Love your work

  • @lirondavidoff2494
    @lirondavidoff2494 4 роки тому +1

    Great ! the set is now complete ^_^

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Now we gotta redo the arcane series to add IWD spells XD

  • @User_Un_Friendly
    @User_Un_Friendly 2 роки тому +2

    You’re right D. In the classic game, with TOB installed, G Restoration cured the entire party. Per the wiki, this is fixed in the Enhanced Edition. 😉

  • @howdoilogin
    @howdoilogin 3 роки тому

    Can't wait for the divine spell guides for levels 8 and 9.

  • @animelemon1
    @animelemon1 4 роки тому

    The MADLAD RETURNS

  • @vincnetelswick3553
    @vincnetelswick3553 4 роки тому

    I'm glad you are back up and posting Dav, you're the only reason why I can play a Ranger/Cleric correctly. Looking forward to your kit guide, I just appreciate the time and passion you put into this shit.
    PS. Been waiting for them godly Dav streams.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Soon I hope friend. God bless you friend thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @chrishendry1031
    @chrishendry1031 4 роки тому +1

    Something I did to check out the stats of summoned creatures is to CTRL-Q to look through them ingame. I wish I thought of mentioning that ages ago so you could show off their sheets.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah I should have done so on stream I checked them offline with EE keeper etc in the past but it be useful indeed. I'm going to redo the series at some point soon (didnt have iwd spells for arcane at all) so ill do this for sure, thanks for watching an commenting friend!

  • @TheMelnTeam
    @TheMelnTeam Рік тому

    - Confusion at 7 is both bad and good for divine, but mostly good! The only spellcasters you get that will ever use confusion are nymphs from the level 4 spell to summon them. The game assumes min level for confusion, so it will last 7 rounds despite that nymphs are low level. Since you can summon a lot of them, they can also fire off a lot of checks in short time similar to using sequencer, and as a "level 7 spell" it will bypass globes. You get access to this even with Jaheira in BG1. Putting this on the divine caster himself is a meme though.
    - Apparently, energy drain was patched at some point to stack, as a poster on Reddit used it in solo run to repeatedly drain dragons and run away. It's a *permanent* effect, so it can be used to cheese now. Making Firkraag level 1 makes him a lot less effective. Killing an enemy by taking them to 0 destroys equipment, so avoid that if you want it.

  • @MrSoulservice
    @MrSoulservice 4 роки тому

    Yes!!! I love these guides they are so much help. Have you ever played pillars of eternity? It’s hard to find good guides like these for spells and such for games such as this. Also I was curious about your thoughts on BG3 or if you already talked about it in a past stream I must have missed that I need to dig up

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +2

      It looks fun but it wont be anything like bg1 or 2, we'll stream it for sure though. I will be playing pillars and some other rpgs as we get closer to bg3s release

  • @NoNamesWereAvail
    @NoNamesWereAvail 4 роки тому

    Hey Davaeorn! Your videos are inspiring me to play with more spellcasters than usual (I often did more balanced parties with only 1 sorcerer or mage, did some heavy physical damage party once, etc.). So I cleared every BG1 area before resuming the story and just reached Baldur's Gate city and am currently in Sorcerous Sundries buying all of the spells I was missing. I plan on running through the whole series and did a full custom group. F/M multi (Charname), Berserker>Mage dual at 9 (Berserker for all of BG1), Sorcerer, Invoker, Priest of Tempus, Shadowdancer (planned on dualing to fighter but I'm not sure anymore). I'm a bit scared that I may struggle too much with magic resistant enemies with BG2 SCS (I play on Tactical and only cleared full BG1 SCS once before) so I'm not sure yet if I'll keep the Berserker>Mage dual and also unsure about the Shadowdancer (I'm afraid that he will be useless in combat if I don't dual him into a fighter but might be too long of downtime without a thief in my party if I dual him and play through SoD on top of it). All this to say that I still love your videos and am watching back some of your older guides as I can finally afford to play with many more spells than just go with the core most important ones. Unfortunately, I'm realizing that you did not include the IWD EE spells in your Arcane spell guides. I only played through IWD once (while I did several BG1/2 runs) so I did get to try some of those spells but I really don't know them as well and would have been very interested in knowing your opinion about them (tier and uses for spells such as Mordenkainen's Force Missiles, Vitriolic Sphere, Beltyn's Burning Blood, etc. etc.). I think most of them aren't so great unfortunately but maybe there are uses I don't know of. It would be really great if you could do a short video or just at least maybe a tier list for them. Keep up the good work!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah when I made the arcane series the IWD part of SCS didn't exist at the time, I'll be re doing the arcane series at some point to add those. Shadowdancer is fun as hell i wouldnt recommend dualing it tbh as their hlas are fun to play with. Up to you though. Hope you enjoy your runs and thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @JJEMTT
    @JJEMTT Рік тому

    Not playing on Insane difficulty yet, my first run through of SCS is on Hardcore difficulty, but interesting fact: the Liches casting Time Stop, Improved Alacrity and dumping spells on one character, for some reason the AI targets your Wizard Slayer, if you have one in your party, probably because of the threat of causing miscasting but then the Magic Resistance actually helps keep them alive quite a lot.

  • @FatherMulk
    @FatherMulk 4 роки тому +12

    It's finally here! Any chance of a party member tier list down the line at some point? All I know is that Edwin and Monty are good. Thanks for these btw!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +13

      Yep! It's right after we do the class guide / kit list since they'll kinda go hand in hand, God bless you friend!

    • @weissblitz100
      @weissblitz100 4 роки тому +3

      @@Davaeornlol I agree, I would love to hear your opinion on tier lists, on companions and classes too!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      @@weissblitz100 soon.tm

  • @yessnsc
    @yessnsc 4 роки тому +4

    A magical weapons guide would be awesome!

  • @Mrityugata
    @Mrityugata 4 роки тому +2

    Shambling Mounds' strength lies in their resistances. Probably varies between games, but I think they're always immune to lightning, fire and crushing.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Ah, yeah in my version they're not immune to any of those things :(

  • @bobjohnson1659
    @bobjohnson1659 2 роки тому +1

    Something you probably didn't realize, but Earthquake ignores MR. It's A tier, if not S tier for that reason alone. Open up a fight against drow or monks with that spell and just slaughter them. It can't hit your party if you aren't standing in it. And let's face it, the number of times the enemy gets the drop on you, rather than the other way around are negligible, which means you can almost always open up the fight with it. When I found this out, Sendai's enclave went from difficult to a cake walk.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 роки тому

      In my latest version (long after this guide was made) it doesn't go through iron or stoneskin or MR which def tones it down a bit more in my book :( I need to redo the series sometime this year.

  • @smugchuckles1140
    @smugchuckles1140 2 роки тому +1

    Should've called yourself Gorion considering the amount of knowledge you have on this game.

    • @JMOlsen_
      @JMOlsen_ Рік тому

      Why? Gorion failed very hard, early on. And he failed to prepare his ward for what the future had in store for them. The protagonist wouldn't have been lvl 1 at the start of the game, if Gorion didn't lie to them and didn't hold them back.

  • @lihantu8886
    @lihantu8886 4 роки тому

    Finally!

  • @notalefty999
    @notalefty999 Рік тому

    The mass greater restoration was a TOB bug. basically, it used the wish version of greater restoration. I think it was properly a single target spell in SOA. Enhanced edition fixed it.

  • @mikezeitgeist2
    @mikezeitgeist2 4 роки тому +1

    I love to use finger of death on dragons. It dose take a wile to lower their resistance, and doom them, and greater malison. But it is really cool to do.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Yeah it's pretty hilarious to be sure. Thanks for watching and commenting friendo

    • @megamastah
      @megamastah 4 роки тому

      Or polymorph them to a squirrel ;)

  • @DLLW93
    @DLLW93 4 роки тому

    Yes mateeeee! Finished watching your full blade playthrough recently. Who coulda known it would be a blade to defeat meli! Thanks for all the streaming and entertainment man. Are you going to try Divinity original sin 2 in prep for baldurs gate 3? Good game, just a little imbalanced but some good balance mods out there

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Yes I am I'm gonna try to play through a couple newer RPGs in prep, we'll see how it goes, thanks for watching and commenting friend!

    • @theultimateduck401
      @theultimateduck401 4 роки тому

      @@Davaeornlol I'd love to watch you play dos2!

  • @TheTdroid
    @TheTdroid 4 роки тому +1

    Give Daystar to a frontliner and have them cast Sunray in melee range! Works get for clearing out hoardes of undead and can pack a decent punch on some harder ones too. Being a +4 weapon against Evil creatures is great too, given how early it is available.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah but with the mods and difficulty we have doing the crooked crane lich is something we almost always skip. You cant retreat and if the fight goes bad, you're going back to bg1 XD

  • @Mrityugata
    @Mrityugata 4 роки тому +2

    Nature's Beauty works exactly as advertised. The reason you're not impressed is probably because you expect it to kill things despite its saving throw bonus, and because you're playing with SCS which nerfs blindness by improving enemy AI. In unmodded game the spell is overpowered because of how devastating blindness if for enemies. Especially seeing as it (counterintuitively) doesn't break invisibility, so you can sneak among the enemy group and neutralize them without giving them a chance to act.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      I actually don't really expect the kill effect to go off at all since when I used wail of the banshee it wouldn't kill shit and natures beauty has even a less chance of doing so XD, but the blind I expected to work better, If you run your melee out after a blind they should go to where they saw you last, then start searching, that's not the case when I've used natures beauty. It doesn't help in BG2 enemies have a variety of tools to prevent or get around that (if not outright ignore it) but for shit like gromnirs fighters, it should be pretty noticeable, especially since my frontline is ALWAYS hasted making it easier to juke the AI as I mentioned earlier, idk. Just never seems to work right for me. Thanks for watching and commenting as always friend! God bless!

    • @johnmaccallum9737
      @johnmaccallum9737 4 роки тому +1

      I don't know what's going on with Nature's Beauty in your install, but in vanilla BG2/ToB the blind works exactly as advertised, making NB near S tier.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +2

      @@johnmaccallum9737 Apparently it only affects humanoids according to the near infinity engine editor, who knew?

    • @johnmaccallum9737
      @johnmaccallum9737 4 роки тому

      @@Davaeornlol I wonder if that's an SCS change, as I have some vague memories of having blinded a dragon or two.

  • @mikezeitgeist2
    @mikezeitgeist2 4 роки тому

    I used to use gate on mages before I figured out how to strip spell protections. It works against a lot of enemy mages, especially if you can just leave the room after casting it.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah true I hate those off screen shenanigans though i do use em myself at times

  • @SuperSorcerer
    @SuperSorcerer 4 роки тому +6

    ב"ה
    I totally disagree about Fire Storm. Fire storm ignore magic resistance, so it is actually pretty decent against drow and other enemies with lots of Magic Resistance. Incendiary cloud do deal a lot more damage, but ignoring Magic Resistance is more usefull against enemies with high magic resistance.
    Sunray can affect demiliches. It is at least worth mentioning, and it make the spell more decent.

    • @Mrityugata
      @Mrityugata 4 роки тому +1

      Not so sure about Incendiary Cloud having better damage. Fire Storm has higher minimal damage (per round), and there's no save for half.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Incen cloud does 1d4 per level up to 20d4 save vs spell for half but it lasts for a full turn. Firestorm is 2d8+20 for 4 rounds so 8d8+80 vs 80d4 (incen cloud over 4 rounds same duration as fire storm) Firestorm is definitely more reliable damage up front and is nice against enemies with MR for sure, if enemies do fail their save incen cloud does quite a bit more, if they save, it will do a fair bit less. Incen cloud lasts more than twice as long and can be launched from a CC as well though its also a higher level, firestorm would require twice the XP to do the same thing but would be quite deadly too. Honestly I don't really use either of them that often, I find it really risky, the times you would want to use these would be against sendai etc, and if one of your casters gets dispelled, RIP, it's why I stick to horrid wilting despite incen doing a hell of a lot more damage.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +2

      Good point about sunray on liches, though I prefer the bolt of glory tbh. Fair point about mind flayers as well since you're really unlikely to be dispelled while fighting MFs. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

    • @mikedeck8381
      @mikedeck8381 4 місяці тому

      Yes the Sunray spell always damages Lichs and ignores any protective spells the LIch might have up. That and the casting time is good and is party friendly.

  • @slavemonkey5063
    @slavemonkey5063 4 роки тому

    Your cleric spells are VERY different from mine, I'm using a really old (from 2014) megamod install on the good old 5 disc version and the disc versions of bg1 stuck together with BGT, I have some of these spells but I use Divine Remix with the Sphere system for clerics and the new kits, it's super cool, but I miss out on some of these amazing IWD spells in return. It's still cool to see your opinion on the spells we share and see the spells I'm missing, I sure would like to have that Impervious Sanctity of Mind spell around... in my version Creeping Doom is also insanely good, I don't think there's a version where it isn't! As someone who plays the disc versions, I have no recollection whatsoever of Greater Restoration restoring everyone in the party, and it's certainly a single target spell in my version. I've googled it and it says there was supposedly a bug with Throne of Bhaal release versions where that was happening, but I think it was probably patched at some point because I do not see that happening on my end. In any case, it's not a full-party super heal for me, that would be truly busted if so! I think that Mist of Eldath spell should just last for a few rounds (maybe 1 for every 5 levels of the caster??) and then it would be pretty awesome, but it sounds like doo doo at the moment. Anyway, keep up the content bro live well and prosper!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      You too friend thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @redelephantsdotnl
    @redelephantsdotnl Рік тому

    ...And you get so few level 7 spells as a Druid, too. I left the level/spell progression unmodded. I currently have Cernd in my party at level 23 - and he has THREE level seven spells slots.

  • @Jimmyni-kk4em
    @Jimmyni-kk4em 5 місяців тому

    Sunray is my favourite spell

  • @origamiknife7556
    @origamiknife7556 Рік тому

    On my version The Balor behaves exactly like you said (kills the caster and then sits there) unless I cast protection from evil. While it doesn't work on other demons, it does work on my own. Maybe there's a scripting or A.I. error without protection from evil.

  • @howdoilogin
    @howdoilogin 2 роки тому +1

    Say what you want about Finger of Death on its own, but I've always been partial to the Necromancer->Cleric dual class combo. It's situational, but there are three Silver Dragons in all of BG2 (Adalon in SoA, and two in Dorn's ToB quest) that are Good aligned. The reason I specify that is with three sequencered Lower Resistances, Doom, Greater Malison, and Unholy Blight a Necromancer->Cleric can cast Finger of Death on a Silver Dragon and force them to save on a die roll of 18 or higher. That's an 85% chance to kill those creatures even on SCS. You can stack those debuffs to give FoD a 75% chance to kill using companions like Eddy and Icky Vicky but a Necro-Cleric's ST penalty really helps seal the deal.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 роки тому +1

      I've had a lot of people tell me they enjoyed it I might try it on stream at some point.

  • @chimertaur
    @chimertaur 4 роки тому

    Wow, I always thought Earth Elementals were the best summons out of devas/planetars. This will help me out on saving myself a lot.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      They're not BAD per se just not as good as others XD

  • @User_Un_Friendly
    @User_Un_Friendly 2 роки тому +2

    I forgot to mention this when it posted. Firestorm IGNORES MAGIC RESISTANCE. Drow killing spell. 🧐

  • @subaidedwarder286
    @subaidedwarder286 4 роки тому

    Woohoo!

  • @gddub
    @gddub 4 роки тому +2

    🤯🤯🤯

  • @ToTheNines87368
    @ToTheNines87368 Рік тому

    I seem to have a spell not on the list (likely added by mods) greater shield of lethander. It seems quite good, not experienced enough to tell if it’s overpowered or not though.

  • @Scorpius165
    @Scorpius165 3 роки тому +1

    Greater Restoration is really all-party spell in the original BG 2... absolutely busted.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 роки тому

      Yeah there was quite a few spells that were changed over time. I still have no idea when prismatic spray became party friendly.

  • @s.z.9517
    @s.z.9517 4 роки тому

    Nice. I played this game and the following many, many times, and I still do. I play custom parties now, tired of all the drama. Right now I started a new game with an all-mage group in BG2 : necromancer, sorcerer (fireball factory), dragon disciple (in front with only protection spells, iron skin all time, very resistant), illusionist/thief, summoner, priest/mage. The game is longer because of micro management, but you can freely use every spell available at any time (except from druid's but they mostly suck). Can cast four fireballs at the time, rince and repeat.
    My advice to new players : for big fights, stay away from foes, let your priest stack buffs while mages cast zone spells (sleep, web, etc.) The enemy will not attack, so when they are all down, paralized or whatever, then cast fireballs till they're all dead, and finish with bows. You can avoid some difficulty in the early game by doing this.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      True true, thanks for watching and commenting friend!

    • @s.z.9517
      @s.z.9517 4 роки тому

      @@Davaeornlol Thanks for going back to the roots of rpg. BG2 and Fallout 2 are for me the two sides of the same coin. If you played both, you have nothing to learn from modern rpgs.

  • @luketelvanni2339
    @luketelvanni2339 2 роки тому

    10:53 it seems that party AI in EE also follows this principle.
    If I cast sleep on bunch of gnolls and let Kagain with STANDARD ATTACK AI attack them, he will go for those who are awake, he does not attack sleeping gnolls.

  • @berentook
    @berentook 4 роки тому +2

    Firestorm bypasses MR i believe so it can be useful. Does the regeneration spell tick twice as much when you are hasted like item regeneration does?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      It does indeed I forgot to mention that. Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @skullbearer
    @skullbearer 4 роки тому

    Could there be a catch up video about the IWD mage spells? I don't think the earlier videos covered them.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      I'm going to re do the whole arcane series after I finish class and comp guides!

    • @s.z.9517
      @s.z.9517 4 роки тому

      Most spells are the same in IWD, I remember more direct damage spells like acid based projectiles and all but no big changes.

  • @Ejtan
    @Ejtan 4 роки тому +1

    Any chance that you'll make a companion tier list? :D

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      It's next on the list after class kit guide.

  • @alf_url
    @alf_url 2 роки тому

    Hello, I'm pretty late for a short discussion here.
    Regarding with my experience, the divine spell, Gate, is actually also bugged.
    I have the latest version of the Enhanced Editions (EET) with the QoL mods, and the summoned Balor actually full wiped my party, confusing me throughout my session until I watched your video.

  • @vladimirtchuiev2218
    @vladimirtchuiev2218 4 роки тому +1

    On your playthrough videos (they are 2 years old I guess?) you mentioned that you prefer Aerie over Viconia because the later tends to get chunked by backstabs, while here and in the stream you say that you prefer Viconia. What changed?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +2

      SCS added IWD spells which allows you to cast divine intervention giving viccy a lot more breathing room, as for being a cleric viccy was always better, it's just her survivability compared to aerie that was so much worse, but the latest SCS helps level the playing field a bit. Aerie is still going to scale better into late, but 3 mil to 5 mil viccy is going to be a lot more useful to keep the front line up.

  • @Alianger
    @Alianger 2 роки тому

    43:53 Yep can confirm

  • @Baksa81
    @Baksa81 4 роки тому

    Great Video. Thanks man. You know I wanted to buy BG for PC lately. Can I buy it on Steam or is modding then harder?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      I personally avoid steam if i can as I have heard those things too, but I also heard people say you can do it just fine.

    • @rynenapier1095
      @rynenapier1095 4 роки тому

      i personally own it on steam and is heavily modded and works just fine

    • @TheLanceUppercut
      @TheLanceUppercut 4 роки тому

      Mods work fine on my Steam version

  • @victorsong6833
    @victorsong6833 4 роки тому

    I totally didnt miss that baka!

  • @Petycon
    @Petycon 4 роки тому

    Heya, Dav! Love your guide, as always, but just a minor nitpick re: Nature's Beauty. In my game, it doesn't seem to break invisibility for some reason (I think it's treated as a self-buff, like drinking a pot), so you can sneak around and disable multiple groups. Even if they cast True Sight, the rest of the enemy group is struck blind.

    • @Petycon
      @Petycon 4 роки тому

      Also, Fire Storm ignores MR - ir's one of the few damage spells to do so. This means that drow MR does jack shit against it. In fact, it's amazing if you want to clear improved Ust Natha in SCS.

    • @Petycon
      @Petycon 4 роки тому

      Sorry for spamming comments, not used to commenting on UA-cam. Don't the shambling mounds come with some baller resistances? I thought they had 50/50/90 for P/S/C and tons of status immunities, making them pretty good at 2-for-1.
      Anyway, still loving your work!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      @@Petycon I checked the files they don't in BG for some reason :( They just keel over quickly.

    • @Petycon
      @Petycon 4 роки тому

      @Davaeorn wow, that sucks, they were way tougher in IWD! Thabks for clearing that up!

  • @luugius5569
    @luugius5569 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome stuff! So much knowledge, appreciate it! Regarding the Symbol spells, all the descriptions talk about "opponents" and "enemies" so they should be party friendly? Or is it another one of those "few" discrepanciens between descriptions and effects :P

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      BG symbols are NOT party friendly but now that you mention it the IWD ones might be! Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @jeremyturcotte2271
    @jeremyturcotte2271 3 роки тому +1

    IMO Fire Storm is S tier as it bypasses MR and is castable by a planetar. 1 planetar + 2 druid/cleric casting this can clear a drow war party in a very short time, just need protection from fire on your whole party. I just cleared house jaellat in Ust Natha using this strat

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 роки тому

      It's ironic because I just had a monk that had two fire storms dropped on him by a planetar and died in them so I guess I can't talk shit but I'm still going to. The reason I don't like using this (and incendiary cloud) is if you get dispelled you're pretty much guaranteed to die instantly, and almost certainly permanently. You can walk into stacks of cloudkill or acid fog np, but stacks of incen and firestorm will murder anyone that isn't wearing resist gear, which basically means anyone that isn't a fighter sadly. It's damage is GOOD, but it's just really risky. In my next video I'm probably going to bump incen cloud down a peg, just because it's so damn shady. If you're a solo dragon disciple tho, oof.

    • @295Phoenix
      @295Phoenix 3 роки тому

      @@Davaeornlol I play on Tactical, not Insane, and have only gotten through Yaga-Shura on the main storyline (still screwing around in Watcher's Keep) so I dunno what late ToB is like but isn't it pretty unlikely for the AI to break through Spell Shield, Spell Deflection, Spell Turning, Spell Trap, and SI: Abjuration before getting killed themselves? I mean, it hasn't happened to me yet which is why I love the area of effect fire spells. I get that non-mages can get dispelled pretty easily since you can't put spell protections on them and on Insane they'll get chunked fast but as long as you keep them away from the area of effect, shouldn't it be reasonably safe for the mages to go to town with the incendiary clouds and firestorms or is the AI just better at breaking through spell protections later on and/or at higher difficulties?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 роки тому +1

      @@295Phoenix Yes they are much much better, it's not uncommon for a lich to timestop and wish for an aoe breach which strips you basically butt ass naked, high level mages will frequently time stop and strip you naked, or you're fighting multiple mages at once and you can get stripped in an instant. There are also lots of times where you can't refresh buffs at all, because you're dodging planetars or other nonsense and can't be caught with your pants down. Beholders are a lot more common in ToB fights as well and they don't give two shits how many spell protections you got up. Anti magic ray eyestalk go brrrr

  • @dmlayton1984
    @dmlayton1984 4 роки тому +3

    Hey Dav - I dug into the game files to see what was going on with Nature's Beauty. It appears that it is coded to affect Humanoids only, despite the description saying "anyone". Here is a screenshot of the details of the slay effect: imgur.com/a/xdrtxzk

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +2

      That explains quite a bit! thanks for sharing friend!

  • @jasonmitchell5148
    @jasonmitchell5148 4 роки тому +2

    Clerics get Animate Dead at level 3 whereas Wizards get Animate Dead at level 5. This is an example where Clerics get a spell before Wizards.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      An excellent point friend! Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @ben5056
    @ben5056 4 роки тому +6

    Don’t divine casters get animate dead before wizards do?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +5

      Excellent point friend they do! Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @ben5056
      @ben5056 4 роки тому +3

      Davaeorn my pleasure, I love your guides. They’ve been a great help in my current BG 2 game.

  • @Gloriath1
    @Gloriath1 4 роки тому

    Spell guide completion? --> Ja Baby, ja!
    Kit (or even better: companion) evaluation next sounds good?
    edit: Never mind, just finished :D. Class guide, yayyy! :)

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Soon.tm Thanks for watching and commenting friend!

  • @BuzzKirill3D
    @BuzzKirill3D 3 роки тому

    Well, it's been a full year since the last guide... I know you're sick, but hope you're doing at least OK. Have you thought about creating a new guide?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 роки тому +1

      Yup companion guide when im up to it. And class guide.

  • @AmityvilleFan
    @AmityvilleFan 4 роки тому +1

    Now I'm double sure Solo Poverty run is only available for Sorcerer/ess, if at all.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      I believe in you buddy!

    • @AmityvilleFan
      @AmityvilleFan 4 роки тому

      @@Davaeornlol Most classes are item-dependant to cause damage (fighters, rogues).
      This leaves us with casters: mage, druid, medic, sorcerer/ess.
      Mages need scrolls to be able to cast anything, thus fall out in Poverty as scrolls are items.
      Druids and medics are practicaly the same aside druids being slower casters, and not able to multiclass for The Trap of Cheese. Neither class has anything from high levels.
      Medic's demise (also druid's) is, they can't do anything to Ravager aside minor damage with Energy Blades HLA, and that's not enough.
      That leaves Sorcerer/ess to try.
      Which has a lot of downside, like lacking the casting speed w/o the Robe of Vecna + Amulet of Powah, and it needs many spells just to get over certain obstacles.
      Despite all that, I managed to reach Abazigail with it, then lost all enthusiasm for the whole thing.

  • @piotrka2842
    @piotrka2842 2 роки тому

    I'd say insect plague is better than creeping doom. Ok it does less dmg overall, but it disables enemy mages for whole 6 rounds, instead just for 3

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  2 роки тому

      At one point undead weren't immune to bugs so creeping doom actually hit liches which was fkn DISGUSTING.

  • @olarunealnes3960
    @olarunealnes3960 4 роки тому

    How about one about all the playable characters, now that the spells are all done and done?😀

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Class guide then companion guide are up next!

  • @bydlaq
    @bydlaq Рік тому

    Aura of flaming death missing?

  • @edgartheslayer3
    @edgartheslayer3 4 роки тому

    13:45 doesn't it say 2d8 +1 per level fire damage? so at level 13 when you get it, it should be like 15-29 damage. It's still not a lot but that's a big difference. I don't know how scs ai works, but if you put a lot of fire protections on your fronline and just cast it there, sounds like a strat against those who are killable by fire. Can't a imagine a situation like that really lol but still

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Yeah it's just incendiary cloud does 1d4 PER LEVEL. Comparing it to the other cloud kill shit just makes it fall short imo. Thanks for watching and and commenting friend!

  • @Tumasch
    @Tumasch 4 роки тому

    Either my dudes and dudettes save on the stun symbol all the time, or it only hits enemies.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      Quite possibly, that's the trouble with baldurs gate and mods is you go through so many damn iterations of the game that shit gets changed and you always continue the original assumption. Prismatic spray/comet/ so many others were not party friendly before, they are now. Sarevok had true magic immunity in the original, that got taken out with a patch. I'll give it a fresh test to make sure. Thanks for commenting friend!

  • @Simone-bc2fo
    @Simone-bc2fo 3 роки тому

    Helpless noob here. Have you considered making a NPC guide? That would help those eternally undecided on how to build a party tremendously, man.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 роки тому

      I want to make the class / kit guide first then NPC guide second. Soon .tm I hope.

  • @Dickmaster-adam
    @Dickmaster-adam 2 роки тому +1

    Dude does videos that are very informative and last 1-2 hours and hasn't even 10000 subscribers...........

  • @fortyfourcakez
    @fortyfourcakez 4 роки тому

    The problem with demon summons is that when they kill something you dont get XP. Or have I misunderstood this?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Well that's one of the problems lol. But yeah you don't get xp for what they kill NOR killing them

  • @trdi
    @trdi 4 роки тому

    Creeping Doom not working against liches - is this really after a nerf, or is it SCS thing?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      SCS doesn't let them work on undead yeah

    • @s.z.9517
      @s.z.9517 4 роки тому

      Liches are the toughest enemies in the game, stronger than dragons, but you can avoid them and come back in the late game when you have an OP team. Nothing works on them, the best way to defeat them is to destroy their magical defenses with your casters, and pray that your warrior hits him at least once before he casts his combo.
      It's always about dice rolls, so quick save, try it, try it again and at some point, you'll be lucky enough to kill the liche before it does anything.

  • @howdoilogin
    @howdoilogin 2 роки тому

    I have absolutely no idea why you have trouble with Nature's Beauty. That spell is S-tier even if it didn't have a kill effect on it. The range is supposed to be 15 feet, but the game actually programs it as 16, so it should be _slightly_ better than intended. It might be getting nerfed by SCS, if you play unmodded this spell breaks everything. Anything blind immediately falls upon its default creature AI so this doesn't just screw up frontliners, this will make mages stand still until someone gets close and then they'll try to hit their target with a fuckin' stick even in Throne of Bhaal.

  • @User_Un_Friendly
    @User_Un_Friendly 2 роки тому

    According to the wiki, Gate, and the other divine and arcane demon summons do not add to the summon limit. Summon 3 skeleton warriors, a wizard eye and haste them, and then summon 10 demons. 😳. Lead the skeleton warriors via wizard eye, and the demons should follow. Long range strikes are possible. 🤣

  • @lolmatt9
    @lolmatt9 3 роки тому

    Do druids get Impervious Sanctity of Mind?

  • @Cerabelus
    @Cerabelus 4 роки тому

    I tried playing as a pure Cleric but the spells for me are hit and miss, I love playing a Cleric/Mage and one time i played through as an Avenger Druid and had fun but Arcane is the best.

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Yeah for sure, CM is definitely one of my favorites!

    • @s.z.9517
      @s.z.9517 4 роки тому

      I never play a pure cleric, the benefits are small compared to a warrior/cleric, or mage/cleric. You got a few more spells but you don't need a full time priest, just some heal and protection time to time.

  • @yessnsc
    @yessnsc 3 роки тому

    Where is the kit/class video? A magical items walkthrough would also be great. Where is the patreon page? Do we need start funding e

    • @yessnsc
      @yessnsc 3 роки тому

      Sorry for the typos. iPhones are difficult

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  3 роки тому

      Just waiting on my last two comp parts to come then Ima make my comp and we're gonna get rollin hard. I'm not making a patreon. Maybe once I start putting up youtubes all the time but like. I'm pretty inconsistent atm with being sick an all.

  • @dragunovmain4142
    @dragunovmain4142 4 роки тому

    Are you doing okay?

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому +1

      I'm living the dream buddy you know me. Been a rough couple weeks but im not dead yet, hope you're doing well friend!

  • @anhero2377
    @anhero2377 4 роки тому

    Based Davaeorn is hidden OP oldschool youtube. Can't say enough good things about him. S tier all the way.

  • @ben5056
    @ben5056 4 роки тому +1

    I leave beholder slaying to Korgan with Balduran’s shield

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Its tough with SCS it gets snatched right away, same with cloak of mirroring, still good for a round or two though especially if you space them out with good positioning.

    • @ben5056
      @ben5056 4 роки тому

      Davaeorn sad but understandable, beholders are made trivial by the shield. Without it that underdark lair would have been hell

  • @VoteRed444
    @VoteRed444 4 місяці тому

    Bolt of Glory doesnt work in watchers keep on the lich,you have to go in and out of the area were the demich lich is and have minsc finish him off with improved hast,so umm mods might make it work finger of death is crap,playing on core rules man i used alot of death fog and cloudkill in the final level. Core rules no mods man watchers keep final level before imprisioned one woud up using alot of cloudkill and drath cloud for me it workes against the mage and lich,dragon a peice of crap though ticked me off somehow killed it after multiple failures,finger of death is crap though.Watchers keep is doable before you go to spellhold just do everything before.I would say i dont think your wrong but it proabably depends on mods and your dificulty,core rules is hard enough for me.Watchers keep aint so bad just spawn a bunch of fire elementals for chromatic demon.Maybes it because I have Anoman,Minsc,Jaheria,Yoshimo,My cleric and Edwin.

    • @VoteRed444
      @VoteRed444 4 місяці тому

      Gauntlet in watchers kepp posed me of beholder diapered but you have to close gat and let them in one at a time in the final level.

  • @kkbaby30
    @kkbaby30 4 роки тому +1

    Fire Storm actually bypasses MR. Storm of Vengeance bypasses MR and is party friendly so very good!

    • @Davaeornlol
      @Davaeornlol  4 роки тому

      Good point about fire storm friend thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @sprutmule
      @sprutmule 4 роки тому

      Storm of Vengance does not bypass MR

  • @VoteRed444
    @VoteRed444 4 місяці тому

    Animate dead should be A to S teir and planetars S+ gate spells trash