What if ITALY Went Communist - Hearts Of Iron 4

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  • @iSorrowproductions
    @iSorrowproductions  2 роки тому +104

    Get Surfshark VPN at surfshark.deals/isp - Enter promo code ISP for 83% off and 3 extra months for FREE!

    • @PrimeMinisterAlfredo
      @PrimeMinisterAlfredo 2 роки тому +2

      Finally. ISP protecting the isps.

    • @ilcagnolinocomunista1483
      @ilcagnolinocomunista1483 2 роки тому

      uM uCtUaLlY it's Gramshi 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 роки тому

      ‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E

    • @noobowskiyt2910
      @noobowskiyt2910 2 роки тому

      @@ilcagnolinocomunista1483 uM aCtUaLlY iTs GrAmMaRlY 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓

    • @cloudy4519
      @cloudy4519 2 роки тому +1

      Please use only bike divisions . Bike divisions are only found in Netherlands and in Japan

  • @madddd1
    @madddd1 2 роки тому +597

    Finally, the nation leader portrait we can all relate to. He looks like the person who would play every single nation in alphabetical order in some Swedish grand strategy game about WW2

    • @squirrelystew8323
      @squirrelystew8323 2 роки тому +26

      Imagine the insanity

    • @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
      @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 місяців тому

      And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
      “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
      Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
      -Acts 3:19
      Please go to a PCA Presbyterian or OPC Presbyterian church, or maybe a Rpcna/Rpc Presbyterian church
      If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms or Wels Lutheran church.
      If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland, they are Presbyterian
      If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England
      :)

    • @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
      @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 місяців тому +1

      @@squirrelystew8323🐪

  • @dexterwilliams2520
    @dexterwilliams2520 2 роки тому +889

    Holy crap, Lois! This is crazier than the time I overthrew Mussolini and established Italy as a communist regime!

    • @derrickchannel1
      @derrickchannel1 2 роки тому +55

      W move peter

    • @punch3322
      @punch3322 2 роки тому +13

      absolutely disgusting

    • @brockburton1998
      @brockburton1998 2 роки тому +12

      W cutaway

    • @joedoesthings8506
      @joedoesthings8506 Рік тому

      Oh my God. Oh my fucking God. He does look like him. Why did you comment this. Oh God.

    • @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
      @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 місяців тому

      And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
      “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
      Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
      -Acts 3:19
      Please go to a PCA Presbyterian or OPC Presbyterian church, or maybe a Rpcna/Rpc Presbyterian church
      If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms or Wels Lutheran church.
      If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland, they are Presbyterian
      If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England
      :)

  • @ademaydogan3834
    @ademaydogan3834 2 роки тому +2127

    We wanna be called gravy babies

    • @sharplydressedrabbit3604
      @sharplydressedrabbit3604 2 роки тому +250

      We also want the rat

    • @Trever101
      @Trever101 2 роки тому +64

      @@sharplydressedrabbit3604 exactly my thoughts

    • @agridley1116
      @agridley1116 2 роки тому +80

      Bring the rat back!!!!!

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 роки тому +5

      ‎‎‎‎‎‎E

    • @cottton
      @cottton 2 роки тому +25

      I NEED TO SEE THE RAT AGAIN

  • @SgtPeppr
    @SgtPeppr 2 роки тому +925

    The people have spoken ISP, now that Vicky 3 is out. Sokoto part 2 is needed

    • @SuperCommu
      @SuperCommu 2 роки тому +30

      Sokoto 2: Electric Boogaloo

    • @yapalskippy1807
      @yapalskippy1807 2 роки тому +91

      they wanted him to do a funni lil sponsored video for vik 3 but he refused
      quote:
      "For those asking YES I was offered to make some early Vicky 3 content but I said no to it, I have about 16 hours in the game and as of currently I don't plan on making any videos on it."

    • @justinambru8529
      @justinambru8529 2 роки тому +9

      Does that mean he won't do any Victoria 3 videos.

    • @Usmodlover
      @Usmodlover 2 роки тому +31

      @@justinambru8529 technically he already has I think, I thought he was in Bo’s Vicky 3 vid

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 роки тому +5

      E‎‎

  • @tomitomi5804
    @tomitomi5804 2 роки тому +412

    POV: Giving Mousoullini a heart attack when he mentioned the words comunist, Italy and spaghetti in the same sentence

    • @bighillraft
      @bighillraft 2 роки тому +48

      Mussolini explaining why eating carb-heavy grain product is bad for Italians (he wants them to eat a different carb-heavy grain product):

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 роки тому +5

      E‎

    • @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
      @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 місяців тому

      And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. -Jeremiah 29:13
      “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
      Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out.
      -Acts 3:19
      Please go to a PCA Presbyterian or OPC Presbyterian church, or maybe a Rpcna/Rpc Presbyterian church
      If you can’t find one of the conservative presby churches then, maybe a Lcms or Wels Lutheran church.
      If you are Scottish, I recommend the Free Church of Scotland, they are Presbyterian
      If you are English I recommend the Free Church of England
      :)

    • @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool
      @GirolamoZanchi_is_cool 11 місяців тому

      @@EEEEEEEE🐪

  • @Zhicano
    @Zhicano 2 роки тому +81

    Poor Antonio Gramsci. Look him up and see just how fucked his life was.

    • @USSLIBERTYREMEMBERER
      @USSLIBERTYREMEMBERER Рік тому +24

      nice guy, cool thoughts on free will and political identity. shame how he went out.

  • @WaterZer0
    @WaterZer0 2 роки тому +80

    Virgin Paradox UA-camr: *takes money and uploads Victoria 3*
    Chad ISP: *refuses deal and uploads HoI4 on launch day*

    • @oppionatedindividual8256
      @oppionatedindividual8256 2 роки тому +1

      Yea very weird choice though

    • @RandomHQ433
      @RandomHQ433 2 роки тому +4

      According to his twitter he doesn't like the game.

    • @feelsbradman6793
      @feelsbradman6793 2 роки тому

      @@RandomHQ433 Wait, where'd he say that? I don't see it

    • @RandomHQ433
      @RandomHQ433 2 роки тому

      @@feelsbradman6793 I think he did but honestly i'm not sure so sorry if i'm wrong.

    • @feelsbradman6793
      @feelsbradman6793 2 роки тому

      @@RandomHQ433 Ahh okay. I think it's fair to assume he doesn't like it, but I don't think he's confirmed it anywhere.

  • @kzr_1613
    @kzr_1613 2 роки тому +92

    Getting 4 railway guns at the start of the game and 8-10 spies later doesn't sound weak at all

    • @edwardking9359
      @edwardking9359 Рік тому +2

      Until you realise that basically any nation can do that if they have a good industry, which being in a civil war makes more difficult

    • @-shlonk-5899
      @-shlonk-5899 Рік тому +1

      @@edwardking9359 tbf not every nation can get 10 spies, I remember when I played I literally just couped France to stop them from garunteeing the Balkans and the coup actually won

  • @Noah-gv3qi
    @Noah-gv3qi 2 роки тому +232

    The productions man has brought us another masterpiece.

  • @randymeadows6647
    @randymeadows6647 2 роки тому +38

    Challenge: Set all nations that have a democratic tree to that tree. Then watch the chaos as Switzerland.

  • @pootis4986
    @pootis4986 2 роки тому +40

    loved the part where Gramsci said "it's Marxin time" and collectivized everything

  • @closker42
    @closker42 2 роки тому +25

    If you guys actually wanted to know, "meraviglioso" means wonderful or marvellous, while dead is "morto"
    6:50

  • @marx252
    @marx252 2 роки тому +54

    The new profile pic every episode is what I live for

  • @raynightshade8317
    @raynightshade8317 2 роки тому +16

    I guess when it says seize old equipment, it means ancient roman railway guns under the coliseum

  • @michaelmutranowski123
    @michaelmutranowski123 2 роки тому +107

    I have noticed since the new DLC launched that the Soviets seem to get their teeth kick in quite easily by the NSDAP

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 роки тому +4

      ‎E

    • @joevenespineli6389
      @joevenespineli6389 2 роки тому +15

      Always a back and forth between DLC releases

    • @michaelmutranowski123
      @michaelmutranowski123 2 роки тому +12

      @@joevenespineli6389 I finally got a game where the Soviets actually fought back before loosing Moscow but that was only after Italy fell and Paris was liberated so small steps

    • @kzr_1613
      @kzr_1613 2 роки тому +2

      Their units seem to be everywhere except at the eastern front

    • @wtfman-k3g
      @wtfman-k3g Рік тому

      weird since the soviets usually do alright in my games

  • @klopswasser
    @klopswasser 2 роки тому +66

    Just play Japan, lose early, and only then try to do all the Japan-stuff. Might be a weird challenge.

  • @gibtose6463
    @gibtose6463 2 роки тому +9

    By far the biggest problem i have with the new dlc is the Italian balance of power, because of the mechanic where losing non-core sates reduce support by 5% I've had too many times where I've been forced into a civil war after losing something like Romania even though I've already taken over half the world. They need to put more effort into making it so you can regain power as Mussolini because there are only about 5 decisions and 2 or 3 focusses then after that you cant get anymore support for him making extremely difficult not to get couped in a major war. Especially against someone like the soviets where states are constantly exchanged and there by you constantly lose support that by that point in the game you can never get back.

  • @dundigundi3187
    @dundigundi3187 2 роки тому +3

    12:24 "You just split him up!"
    American France and Free France sitting together in Algeria: Do you guys have your mainland?

  • @jaretgold7697
    @jaretgold7697 2 роки тому +9

    The utter defeat as he said “Paraguay” had me cackling

  • @masterman1001
    @masterman1001 2 роки тому +1

    0:57 i can't support Surfshark financially, as they have represented my country's flag incorrectly. Everybody knows Switzerland's flag is a square.

  • @CynTrip
    @CynTrip 2 роки тому +2

    @4:31 I'm happy they finally added ISP to the game

  • @bladecial9394
    @bladecial9394 2 роки тому +14

    Why aren’t we called gravy babies this episode?

  • @nicholaskatsikas4904
    @nicholaskatsikas4904 2 роки тому +18

    ISP playing communist Italy gives me life

  • @queru1ous
    @queru1ous 2 роки тому +10

    Btw I think it’s better to go the left side of decolonization tree to get cores in Africa - it’s really easy to get them voting yes on it, just do colonial development focuses and build up compliance.

    • @queru1ous
      @queru1ous 2 роки тому +2

      @Animefarts1776 it is indeed! Glad you noticed, Animefarts1776!

  • @bismarckfamily277
    @bismarckfamily277 2 роки тому +18

    "we will now take antonio gramski just because he looks like a frog" best description of that comerade ever

  • @Shott1e
    @Shott1e 2 роки тому +48

    ISP not getting early access to Vic 3 is the worst thing that has happened in the history of map games. I need ISP Vic 3 memes and I need them NOW

    • @ms039
      @ms039 2 роки тому +53

      He got early access, he just didn't make any videos on it

    • @PermadeathHD
      @PermadeathHD 2 роки тому +24

      he did get early access. check the pinned comment in the previous video for why he isnt going to post vic 3

    • @RenzeKoper
      @RenzeKoper 2 роки тому +3

      He has early access to the game, he was literally on Bo's stream yesterday, and even on Bo's preview video I think. He just chose to not make any videos on it as he thought it wouldn't be representetive as he had very limited hours on the game so would not be very good at it

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 2 роки тому

      E‎

    • @ultra-papasmurf
      @ultra-papasmurf 2 роки тому +6

      @@RenzeKoper he never said that, all he said was that he had 16+ hours

  • @haideralkefaji3134
    @haideralkefaji3134 2 роки тому +7

    Bro the peace deal system legit makes the game unplayable

  • @doctorothon
    @doctorothon 2 роки тому +2

    I am so glad he didn’t shill for vicky 3

  • @thomasgray4188
    @thomasgray4188 2 роки тому +7

    I'm glad isp is partaking in the age old tradition of making sure Mussolini is placed with the correct side up.

  • @thenamesianna
    @thenamesianna 2 роки тому +2

    This video could be called "14 minutes of ISP roasting Gramsci"

  • @mahmutmc4540
    @mahmutmc4540 2 роки тому +2

    ISP be like:
    VIC 3 is out
    nah ima just play hoi4 for the 100 wfgorogrkogromillionth time

  • @aguy3664
    @aguy3664 2 роки тому +2

    every youtuber posting vic 3 chad isp makes hoi4 vids

  • @justanother7813
    @justanother7813 2 роки тому +4

    By spaghetti alone will enter the bootleg paradox DLC names along with yes step back.

  • @samthesigma2203
    @samthesigma2203 2 роки тому +4

    the videos are just getting better

  • @yaitz3313
    @yaitz3313 2 роки тому +15

    Could you make a review video about your opinions on Vic3?

    • @fasteddy9312
      @fasteddy9312 2 роки тому +1

      In the last vid he commented he wasn't gonna make Vicky 3 videos.

    • @zacharysilver911
      @zacharysilver911 2 роки тому +1

      @@fasteddy9312 We still should get our tasteful review. However, maybe I would prefer he gives his opinion after a couple patches.

  • @MBSteinNL
    @MBSteinNL 2 роки тому +4

    You can get cores on every land you own as commie Italy if you play your cards right

  • @M1KisCool
    @M1KisCool 2 роки тому +9

    Time to watch ISP make fun of mussolini’s bald head again, here we go!

  • @benjaminbesancon8916
    @benjaminbesancon8916 2 роки тому +3

    So excited for nostalgia November! 🔥

  • @Emeraldin0
    @Emeraldin0 2 роки тому +1

    Everyone: Wow! Vicky III is finally out!
    ISP: HOI4 Communist Italy

  • @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
    @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad 2 роки тому +4

    This is probably my favorite path, especially since you get a war goal against Ethiopia anyways

  • @edgould5190
    @edgould5190 2 роки тому +4

    Ive finally gotten Hoi after watching these videos for years. Would you reccomend any specific DLC or should i just stick to the base game for a while. Also like always great video and humor. Deserve so much more attention on your videos.

  • @yourlocalpineapple
    @yourlocalpineapple 2 роки тому +3

    The funny internet geography man is back!

  • @Caroleonus
    @Caroleonus 2 роки тому +2

    I got stuck in a Czech once. It was not a comfortable experience.

  • @evilwire9786
    @evilwire9786 2 роки тому +1

    "Soviet army got stuck in the Czechs" Not again...

  • @Meister_Mogul
    @Meister_Mogul 2 роки тому +1

    Where's *our* Victoria 2 guide?

  • @LookAtEachOther
    @LookAtEachOther 2 роки тому +3

    ISP got his own focus tree in hoi4 les gooo

  • @themilo1567
    @themilo1567 2 роки тому +1

    Agree Communist path is a bit underdeveloped. I still like it just because the old communist strategy of "Build up power, then attack Germany while the USSR has their attention" still works. But I do wish they gave them something special, even if it's just Germany attacking you after taking care of France.

  • @robot_girlyman1556
    @robot_girlyman1556 2 роки тому +1

    Can't believe Peter Griffin is in hoi4

  • @Kronosfobi
    @Kronosfobi 2 роки тому +1

    ''Hello! Communism-''
    You son of a witch, Im in.

  • @MrSarcasticGaming
    @MrSarcasticGaming 2 роки тому +1

    I'm surprised no Vicky 3 content on here yet

  • @sonofthebearking3335
    @sonofthebearking3335 2 роки тому

    That thumbnail is like The Offspring of Doctor Evil and Austin powers, and it's delightfully cursed.

  • @azh698
    @azh698 2 роки тому +1

    @iSorrowproductions I'll be damned, I just did a Gramsci Italy run a few hours ago!

  • @blurry_face_exe60
    @blurry_face_exe60 2 роки тому +1

    Literally eating spaghetti just for this occasion

  • @MineONite
    @MineONite Рік тому +1

    12:10 ngl Japan looks like sushi

  • @breadcat5402
    @breadcat5402 2 роки тому +2

    Even disputation of pasta

  • @VivBrodock
    @VivBrodock Рік тому

    Honestly 'Sieze the Old Equipment' is genius. Part of the problem with playing alt history paths is that the civil war kills you, but if youre defying the duce you should come out if not stronger at least comparable to what Fascist Italy would be had their been no civil war.

  • @MrTeddy12397
    @MrTeddy12397 2 роки тому +2

    Gramsci is just iSorrows wtf

  • @TheJam1192
    @TheJam1192 2 роки тому +4

    They definitely need to keep that jet in the game just make it a little harder to get or something.

  • @pattondurio
    @pattondurio 2 роки тому

    Not communist is the best compliment you can give to a sponsor.

  • @earlybird884
    @earlybird884 2 роки тому +4

    I am a simple man, I see ISP video, I click.

  • @Greyspecies9999
    @Greyspecies9999 2 роки тому +3

    i, on god, can't be the only italian that is starting to hate the same 2 jokes about italy
    anyways, i love how the italian focus to abolish the colonies literally allow you to core africa (and maybe the middle east too)

    • @cakecwkecake7479
      @cakecwkecake7479 2 роки тому

      as an american hearing other people complain about the same 3 jokes about their countries is hilarious. it's near every day for me that i hear or see the same unoriginal joke about a school shooting or being fat or uneducated or poor etc.

    • @Greyspecies9999
      @Greyspecies9999 2 роки тому +1

      @@cakecwkecake7479 i mean at least you guys have variety
      *we literally have the same 3 jokes that everyone knows and only cares about*

  • @Robinjhoe1
    @Robinjhoe1 2 роки тому +2

    Planes and Tanks fueled by tomato sauce. Truly terrifying

  • @muovi2463
    @muovi2463 2 роки тому

    Greece annexing southern Iraq with no other expansion is peak HOI4.

  • @wulfthemountaindragon5432
    @wulfthemountaindragon5432 2 роки тому +1

    Uh, is it just me or does the Italian communist leader look like a crazy chubby Johnny Depp?

  • @melangalade
    @melangalade 2 роки тому +3

    hoi4 video on vic3 release date? I see you like to live dangerously

  • @koperekhabsburdzki43
    @koperekhabsburdzki43 2 роки тому +1

    0:00 POV: you are tsar Nicolai II

  • @MegaTitan8-z2z
    @MegaTitan8-z2z 2 роки тому

    4:23 is very funny even though I am Italian lol
    HEY COOKA DA PIZZA!!

  • @joelker41
    @joelker41 2 роки тому +2

    "It's very little for such a large amount of work" - ISP
    Welcome to communism.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 2 роки тому

    Gramsci is the dude who said people must be deprived of all their pleasures to force them to think like him, playing im in a videogame is hilarious for that reason,

  • @theyoutoo12
    @theyoutoo12 Рік тому

    If you defeat Ethiopia before starting the civil war, they'll be able to be annexed in the peace conference after winning the civil war.

  • @metal_pipe9764
    @metal_pipe9764 2 роки тому

    2:48 "oh I guess I still own Somaliland"
    Meanwhile Somaliland: owned by the UK

  • @topphatt1312
    @topphatt1312 2 місяці тому

    I did this and got drawn into a war with Germany because I mediated the Transylvania thing with Hungary and told them they couldn’t have any of it. They then went to war with Romania which I got involved in although for a decent amount of time Germany never got involved even after Hungary joined the axis but then they did. I was also at war with Greece.

  • @georgehand2474
    @georgehand2474 2 роки тому +1

    another fine production, production man

  • @benjaminy4872
    @benjaminy4872 2 роки тому

    I tried to do that, ended up not having enough points in the peace conference to fully annex them.

  • @schmlif8839
    @schmlif8839 2 роки тому +1

    Man they really did my boy gramsci horrible in hoi4, he doesn't even look that bad in pics lmao

  • @FNIFF
    @FNIFF 2 роки тому

    Its crazy that you played italy in the last month as much as 3 years before that

  • @reichtangle57
    @reichtangle57 2 роки тому

    iSorrowproductions:be like
    iSorrowproductions:before we start nuking and destroying the world we have a sponsor VPN

  • @cymrawd_foulkesie
    @cymrawd_foulkesie 2 роки тому

    0:01
    POV: You've never touched grass

  • @TreeBeard2008
    @TreeBeard2008 2 роки тому +7

    Antonio Gramsci is sort of Italian Trotsky... but not in the game I guess

  • @allanhagen703
    @allanhagen703 2 роки тому

    isorrow as much as I love these regular vids I think we deserve a full go around who rah and we the gravy babies should see you take the entire world by force if necessary

  • @SuperWolfman9
    @SuperWolfman9 2 роки тому

    C'mon lil Trotsky, it's clearly "By Bolognese Alone"

  • @Arbiter099
    @Arbiter099 2 роки тому

    IRL, Hirohito was still there after it went down. Was never patched. Funny that.

  • @generalrommel5666
    @generalrommel5666 2 роки тому +1

    0:02 “Hi Dr. Nick!”

  • @donpollo3154
    @donpollo3154 2 роки тому +1

    And he... Didn't play victoria 3?

  • @willilucker5335
    @willilucker5335 2 роки тому

    Always happy to see my boi Gramsci making a cameo eatin' de peeza

  • @anthonysmith3593
    @anthonysmith3593 2 роки тому

    When i get my car repainted i am gonna request Brownie-Red

  • @ThreeIrishMen
    @ThreeIrishMen 2 роки тому +1

    WOOOO ICON CHANGE LETS GOOO

  • @AndrPt
    @AndrPt 2 роки тому

    Lol Ethiopia A.I "time to do some fuckery"
    Isp: mate go clean the shit you made

  • @thediethrower1803
    @thediethrower1803 2 роки тому +6

    They're really removing the exploit without fixing the reason it's needed - IE that the new peacedeal system is somehow even worse than the one before it.

  • @EasoLV
    @EasoLV 2 роки тому

    Paradox really need to man up and admit that peace conferences are just screwed and they should be absolute priority to fix.

  • @fifthuniverse9502
    @fifthuniverse9502 2 роки тому +1

    Bro im beginning to think vic 3 is a shitter

  • @AlapakiLee
    @AlapakiLee 2 роки тому

    KAISER REICH nostalgia November

  • @Derinma
    @Derinma 2 роки тому

    Where is the rat? What have you done to the rat?!? We demand the rat!

  • @dhararry7929
    @dhararry7929 2 роки тому

    When I saw tbe leader I said "Is that somebody's grandma?"

  • @danipuscas
    @danipuscas 2 роки тому +1

    Now Benitto's pizzas are ours

  • @tunnelratsrule2770
    @tunnelratsrule2770 2 роки тому

    Came for the gravy babies stayed for the carbonara cowboy

  • @redbread6852
    @redbread6852 2 роки тому

    ISorrow took Montenegro but didn't take Herzegovina for pretty borders.
    My OCD is immeasurable, and my day is ruined

  • @Pmr001
    @Pmr001 2 роки тому +4

    In oil exploit if the ai doesn't have enough convoys just send all your stockpile of oil once it will hammer down the war participation instantly.

  • @benjamintengs4026
    @benjamintengs4026 2 роки тому +1

    feel like scandinavia getting left out every singel time :O Even tho it was important for both sides to take out norway during the actual war