Debunking Survival Myths #1 | Improvised TQs? Heat loss through head? Change voicemail if lost?
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- Let's look at some "myths" I commonly hear in the Outdoor and other Communities.
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Good stuff, Paul - thankee!
The "One knife for everything" myth.
Oh another good one!
As a guy who has applied a CAT and an improvised TQ for "OMG, THAT'S A TON OF BLOOD" limbs. I carry a CAT or a SWAT any time I'm wearing pants (trousers). When I roll out of bed, my tools go on. You don't have to ask me if I have my tools to make holes or to plug them, just check if I'm dressed enough to get the newspaper from the driveway.
As to the improvised TQ. I was the second or third to arrive at the wrecked vehicle. The first guy tried to use his belt to stem an obvious arterial spraying bleed. I cut the seatbelt webbing, made a clove hitch a few inches above the injury but put a Sharpie in the center of the hitch. Tied a reef knot on the ends opposite the injury and hitch side and started cranking.
If the patient is conscious and not cursing you for the pain of the TQ, you aren't applying it properly or direct pressure would have been enough.
I can't imagine how many wraps it would take of 550 to occlude a major artery, 15? maybe. Just make sure that they are neatly beside each other and never one over the other. 10psi but 5 inches (13cm) wide is 100 times better than just wrapping over the same area, causing additional trauma but no better control of bleeding.
Carry a Sharpie too. Those treating the injured party need to know EXACTLY WHEN the TQ was applied.
If it's less than 3-4 hours, they'll probably keep the limb, if the Doctor doesn't know, they'll have to make plan to preserve life over limb.
Don't take your advice from me, go get (often free or pay-what-you-can) training. In the US, look for "Stop the Bleed"
I've taken a Stop the Bleed course and always reccomend people to get that after a basic first aid/CPR class. Improvised methods can work but as you said, always have the right tools available if you can.
very thoughtful and instructional video brother, I'm gonna love this series!
One of your most useful vids. Good job.
Thank you!
Like the video and looking forward to the new series!
Great video man! Looking forward to this new series!
Appreciate the support man!
Thanks Paul! I learned a lot from you today.. in two different videos. Keep up the good work!
Great content!!! Alot of ppl need to hear this, next debunk 1 gal water per day for figuring water storage @ home. With minimal physical activity i could drink a gallon a day, now what am i supposed to cook with & wash myself with??
That's a great suggestion! I've thought the same before and didn't recall that until just reading this. Thanks for the suggestion!
Thanks for the video and info Paul. I never heard of the "Changing your Voicemail" one before and I always thought from what I heard that the heat loss from your head was major. Appreciate it. I've been meaning to get a tourniquet , never had one. 👍
Check out stop the bleeds site. The classes are free and they go through tourniquet use.
@@adaptablesurvival Thanks, Paul . Appreciate it.
Good video , thanks for sharing , God bless !
Thanks!
Good advice Paul
Sometimes common sense is not so common
It really isn't unfortunately lol
hello paul great points and I agree. Just to add, let people know your route or plan. Turning off like wifi , bluetooth and dimming the display can help, as well keep the phone warm in the cold. The last part yes i agree 100% better to know very very well vs assuming. Stuff like rubbing your hands or blowing into your hands when they are cold are two things to try to avoid IMHO.
You are 100% correct. I was in a situation where I had a person with a major bleed. It wasn’t a planned outdoor thing, so I didn’t have my gear. It was too severe for me to handle and needed 911. I used my shirt,and pocket knife to make an improvised tourniquet. I had cell service and the emergency responders said I saved the life. My advice is to be prepared for when you have your gear and when you don’t.
I would agree. Improvised method can work, but I wouldn't bank on them as a guarantee.
Looks like this will be an interesting series to dive into
Most definitely!
Hi. Shawn Kelly sent viewers your way. I love this info. Thank you for the videos and all the hard work you and Mr. Kelly is putting in. I really enjoy it and you don't ever know may be in a situation where it would save my life or someone else's life. I will continue to watch and learn from your video's they're very appreciative, Thank You!!! Best regards Joann.
Thank you for the support!
One of the best ways to save battery in the backcountry is to put it on airplane mode if you know you're out of range. A phone is not going to help you if you have no signal, but it is going to run down the battery really quickly looking for signal it will never find. You could also turn it off, but if you want to access things like clock and camera or dowloaded music or books or whatever (assuming you are not in an emergency situation and just resting or at camp). I lived in a camp for two years in the local foothills where I used a triple layer of emergency blanket panels seamed with duct tape to insulate my tent, but in addition to keeping me warm and invisible, it also created a faraday cage. Airplane mode was the solution because I created the lack of signal by blocking it, but the battery running down was the same as when I'm in the remote backcountry. Same deal if you're driving through an area with no service or stranded in a vehicle in an area with no service. It will help overall to preserve battery life if your device isn't burning itself out looking for signal.
Well presented and relevant information...👍
Thank you!
Always find it strange folks will spend $100's on a knife or cook kit etc but will not spend on tourniquet or quality medical gear and training.
Great video Paul. What about the myth of bushcrafted "fire reflectors" and how they don't actually reflect radiant camp fire heat like many people think they do? Seems like a common myth of survival/bushcraft.
I love it! Thanks brother!
I never understood the term “fire reflector”. Wind deflector is what I was taught. Granted the blockage does stop he heat from going that direction but it doesn’t reflect anything.
Oooh...how about myths about basic first aid for things like bites, stings, ticks, contact allergies, burns, and different other types of basic injuries. It seems simple, but there is so much bonkers information out there.
I'll definitely start looking into it! Thanks for the suggestion!
"If you're east of the Mississippi and lost, just walk an hour in a straight line in any direction - you'll hit something". I would be interested if this was true. "Gather as much wood as you think you'll need for the night, and then gather 5x more". Also - guys have Little Buddy heaters and wood stoves in their tents and always bring along carbon monoxide detectors - but I never see a video of any of these going off in the night. Great video - expectially about TQ's.
I can't change my voicemail without signal... PLUS phone signals are boosted when calling 911, so just try that period.
Here's another one with phones:
Turn your phone on and off in a morse code SOS pattern. I doubt anyone is watching out for failed connection attempts.
As an electronics tech, I have 2 pieces of advice for weak phone battery:
1- Turn you phone off for a while (a LONG while), the battery may regain a bit of energy. Works with many types of batteries, but it is short lived so make it count.
2- if you can, remove and re-install the battery. I have seen many cases where all of a sudden the phone went from dead to 10-20% power. Supposedly there is a bit of reserve hidden and this accesses it. My opinion is that the battery meter actually resets itself and sees the battery is not reallydead yet.
The Morse code one is a good one! I've never came across rest one before. I appreciate the reccomenation!
Great info Paul! That's exactly what the community needs to know. Especially the new outdoor enthusiasts. They're not planning/prepping for a potential survival event. How about expanding on the the heat loss/gain in extreme temperatures, hydration factors, corporal energy expenditures, etc. Just a thought. Thanks. Looking forward to more of this series. Bravo.
I'll definitely start diving into that! Thanks for the suggestion!
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Why you creeping?
@@adaptablesurvival guess I’ll just go F myself then….
The creeper strikes again…
The tourniquets that you make can work. But it's a last resort. Better to have a real tourniquet. Good quality tourniquet.
Couldn't agree more. I'm not saying improvisation won't work, but it's significantly less reliable than just carrying the right tool for the job.
Hey there, Billy from Kansas. Just thought I'd ask about wool blankets. Some of the guys I follow on UA-cam have us believe that if you have a 100% wooly, you can survive anything! How do you feel? Thanks.
Oh, that's a good one! Definitely something that needs to be explored.
Get a tourniquet period. There are only about 22 bucks. And get training.
Exactly! This is precisely what I tell students. Get the training, then carry the proper equipment.
Keeping the phone near the body, I would suggest keeping it in a zip lock or something along those line, I have soaked a phone in the cold, moving around with heavy clothes on. But interesting video.
The problem I have with your first part of the video.
As an EMT trainer, I would agree everyone should have a CAT within reach.
However lacking one, the "Any port in a storm" philosophy should apply.
Keeping in mind 2inch width or anything close is worth trying. Not string or para-cord they don't meet the 2 inch rule.
I would agree, if you have nothing else then something is better than nothing.
But as an Instructor, I feel it's important I communicate that people get the training and carry the surefire method to addressing a life or death situation.
Heat loss from the head is greater because the scalp is very vascular and the blood vessels are near the surface.
I still believe that putting a hat on does slow heat loss
To each their own. But based on studies, it just doesn't support the notion that you lose more heat from your head than the rest of your body.
I’ve never heard the voicemail tip before but it’s pretty comical the fact you could just call for help at that point. It’s similar to people having all the preparations to basically live in the woods in a lost hiker scenario but if they put a little more effort into staying aware of where they were and how to navigate, a lot of survival situations would be alleviated.
Some simple steps ahead of time can definitely make a significant difference.
Ah, the controversy of a tourniquet or an improvised tourniquet…? If you’re bleeding out without access to anything else, whatever you try will probably be better than doing nothing. The way I see it is if you’re attempting to do something like that out in the bush, it’s probably a last ditch effort.
The general "rule of 3s" to prioritize needs. It does not include rest or blood loss and It's misleading for people who take it for gospel without calibrating to situation. It undervalues calories during rigorous survival activity as well as the fact most people end up in these situations with compounding complications after blood loss, hypo/erthermia, and most stepping off already dehydrated. That's if they had no preexisting factors, dietary needs, med issues, degraded mental capacity, etc.
Navigation myths. Like moss only growing on the north side of a tree.
Improvising a TQ it's already too late! If you or your people aren't worth $30 then go jump!
Can't say your wrong there!
Most if the body heat is lost when breathing in cold weather. A TQ is an instrument of last resort and if you use one you will most likely lose the limb. Also, if you are going in the woods get an emergency locator beacon.
Not trying to start an argument but that statement about a TQ is not true. It has been proven in multiple studies that TQs do NOT cause the loss of a limb. Also, in my own experience of having to use one in a wilderness emergency on my dad it was on for almost 3 hours and he still has his leg. I have also had several TQs applied to myself and others in training and we all still have our limbs.
I have seen bullshit on UA-cam and knew it was bullshit. I always tell people how I learn go get the survival books and read and also watch the UA-cam videos then go outside and play.
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