Nemesis reacts to NEW ADC ITEMS & NEW RUNES 😮

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  • @TheGuyinChat
    @TheGuyinChat 5 місяців тому +231

    Nemesis got the best Patch Rundown on UA-cam. Every time I see leaks on twitter I just cannot wait for his video.

    • @nunomagalhaes4718
      @nunomagalhaes4718 5 місяців тому +20

      glazzing deluxe

    • @retrakor
      @retrakor 5 місяців тому

      @@nunomagalhaes4718 its true tho, if you want fast and accurate, you watch the caedrel patch review. if you want long and in-depth, you watch nemesis

    • @Mig32
      @Mig32 5 місяців тому +8

      nah, hashinshin patch rundowns are better

    • @limear
      @limear 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Mig32 only if riven got changed

    • @JanDarkyy
      @JanDarkyy 5 місяців тому +3

      Yeah he usually covers all lanes correctly, most other channels are biased to one lane or one group of champs

  • @kryo3605
    @kryo3605 5 місяців тому +142

    Hi, didn't see any time stamps on the video so this comment will be for all the time stamps. If I missed anything, please comment so I can fix it.
    Nemesis is always my favourite informative streamer, entertaining and also insightful.
    Very exciting changes coming with this next patch.
    Preface on Rundown 0:00
    *Rune Discussion*
    *Precision Tree*
    Lethal Tempo Gone 0:23
    PTA Changes 1:22
    Overheal Gone, New Absorb Life Added 2:48
    Legend Tenacity Gone, New Legend Haste Added 4:24
    Cut Down Changes 5:53
    *Domination Tree*
    Predator Removed 6:52
    Hail of Blades Changes 7:05
    Sudden Impact Changes 7:39
    Ingenious Hunter Removed 8:40
    Relentless Hunter Nerfs 9:13
    *Resolve Tree*
    Font of Life Changes 9:56
    *Inspiration Tree*
    First Strike Changes 10:45
    Future's Market Gone, New Cash Back Added 11:52
    Triple Tonic Moved, Timework Tonic Moved + Changed 13:48
    Minion Dematerializer Removed, New Jack of All Trades Added 14:58
    *Systems Changes*
    Minion XP Splitting Changes 17:06
    *Summoner Spell Discussion*
    (Cosmic Insight Buffed)
    Barrier Buffs 18:11
    Cleanse Nerfed 19:03
    Exhaust Nerfed 19:32
    Ghost Nerfed 20:35
    Heal Bugfix + Ignite Unchanged 21:25
    *Corki Rework/Changes*
    Mainly talking about the numbers and their implications on Corki gameplay.
    Recap + Base Stat Changes 22:10
    Q Numbers 22:43
    W Numbers 22:56
    E Numbers 23:09
    R Numbers + Conclusion 23:30
    *Item Changes*
    Corrupting Pot Removed 24:27
    Boot of Swiftness Changes 24:53
    Mercury's Treads + Plated Steelcaps Changes 26:08
    New Symbiotic Soles Added 27:56
    Berserker's Boots Upgrade --> New Zephyr Added 28:47
    Dagger Nerf 29:48
    Bami's Cinder Changes 30:04
    New Fated Ashes Added 30:43
    Hearthbound Axe Changes 31:23
    Kircheis Shard Removed 31:38
    Noonquiver Changes 31:53
    Recurve Bow Nerf 32:25
    New Scout's Slingshot Added 32:41
    Verdant Barrier Buff 33:13
    Zeal Buff 33:24
    Bloodthirster Changes 33:45
    Collector Changes 34:52
    Essence Reaver Changes 35:45
    Immortal Shieldbow Changes 36:41
    Infinity Edge Changes 37:01
    Kraken Slayer Changes 37:35
    Lord Dominik's Regards 39:09
    Mercurial Scimitar Changes 40:02
    Mortal Reminder 40:55
    Navori Quickblades Changed --> Navori Flickerblades 41:00
    Phantom Dancer Changes 42:42
    Rapid Firecannon Changes + ADC Buildpath Discussion 44:21
    Statikk Shiv Changed (Probably reserved for on-hit champs now, same as Kraken) 46:30
    Stormrazor Removed 47:21
    New Yun Tal Wildarrows Added 47:27
    Black Cleaver Buffs 48:53
    Blade of the Ruined King Changes 49:11
    New Overlord's Bloodmail Added 50:31
    Ravenous Hydra Changes 51:24
    Terminus Changes (I prefer the new path because BF Sword is out, which is a large buy, making it easier to get value out of the build path) 51:37
    Abyssal Mask Changes 52:13
    Anathema's Chains Removed (damn. Niche buy but it was an interesting item, R.I.P.) 53:04
    Hollowed Radiance Changes 53:18
    Knight's Vow Changes 53:42
    Randuin's Omen Changes 54:39
    Sunfire Aegis Changes 55:54
    Unending Despair Buffs 56:10
    Warmog's Armor Changes 56:57
    Winter's Approach Changes 57:28
    Zeke's Convergence Changes 58:11
    Banshee's Veil Changes + AP Item builds Discussion 58:52
    New Blackfire Torch Added 59:20 + 1:06:17 (Nemesis didn't see second passive, second timestamp he looks at them)
    Dawncore Changes 1:00:56
    Liandry's Torment Changes 1:02:02
    Luden's Companion Buffs 1:02:18
    Voltaic Cyclosword Changes 1:03:15
    *Conclusion* 1:04:08

  • @kevinbonilla5802
    @kevinbonilla5802 5 місяців тому +44

    just a quick disclaimer is that PTA change is an 8% increase on yourself. meaning that once you proc it, it will increase your dmg by 8% until the end of combat no matter who you hit

    • @DKHurricane14
      @DKHurricane14 5 місяців тому +1

      That’s actually so huge it’s not just who you proc it on? It’s on EVERYONE once you proc it?!!!

    • @themuffinprincesa21
      @themuffinprincesa21 5 місяців тому

      ​@fazemayes7655 no, you gain 8% damage while in combat when you proc it. You don't proc anything on multiple people, if you proc it on the front line you just get 8% more damage while staying in combat now

    • @kevinbonilla5802
      @kevinbonilla5802 5 місяців тому +3

      @@DKHurricane14 Yes once you proc it on someone its not a %dmg increase to just that champ, its an 8% dmg increase to ALL champs while in combat

    • @bolosandninjarolls
      @bolosandninjarolls 5 місяців тому +1

      I didn't catch that at first either. I've been wondering what rune I'll take on Jax for a game I need to do more damage in, and I think PTA with absorb life could be a move to sustain lane and do big damage as well. Also, Renekton PTA is probably going to be the choice over Conq again

  • @ozthebeeman
    @ozthebeeman 5 місяців тому +12

    Here is what riot should do after all of this tenacity nerf.
    They should nerf chain cc by making it so once you are cc by something you gain a %tenacity after the duration ends or after being hit by another cc spell, this should scale higher the higher cc duration.
    So this would make individual cc effects better, but chain cc even from the same champion much worse.

    • @better_mindset17
      @better_mindset17 5 місяців тому +2

      yeah, just like in WoW with the DR on Stun, Sheep, fear, etc. - good idea actually

    • @gabyonsoft09
      @gabyonsoft09 5 місяців тому

      no they should make an update if u are cced and if u are adc u are cced for more 10 sec doesn t matter the cc ! tenacity shouldn t exist in the 1 st place

  • @dtstar331
    @dtstar331 5 місяців тому +8

    "Acq range" mentioned in 22:35 is "acquisition range". It impacts your attack move command as it searches for valid targets that are that far away from your cursor; if it finds none, your champion will move to that location instead. Furthermore, if you have automatic basic attacking enabled in settings, your champion will also automatically attack any valid target that enters your acquisition range
    Edit: typos; if you think I wrote something incorrect here and can prove it, please go on ahead. I've only noticed it works like that. How it works in reality might be a bit different

    • @travisscott3495
      @travisscott3495 5 місяців тому

      Bro idk what I did to my settings but i always auto attack when I just want to move (if I don’t keep clicking to continue moving) and it’s so annoying there are so many times trading in the middle of wave and I just start auto attacking minions instead of champ (I am low elo plz tell me how to fix)

    • @better_mindset17
      @better_mindset17 5 місяців тому

      @@travisscott3495 you bound your attack move click to mousebutton

  • @unbotheredwaffle
    @unbotheredwaffle 5 місяців тому +60

    it's like every .10 patch is an adc patch that they work on throughout the year. 12.10 is durability patch (mostly for adcs), 13.10 is adc changes, 14.10 more adc changes. i don't mind this since it makes the game fresh. just interesting though.

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 5 місяців тому +6

      Hopefully it will be less ADC-centric with no Lethal Tempo giving ADCs innate attack speed and extra range

    • @OceansDomain.
      @OceansDomain. 5 місяців тому +10

      Well, usually they're the role that is barely touched throughout the patches. Makes sense to make a big patch leaving a role untouched.

    • @elia0162
      @elia0162 5 місяців тому +9

      Because in the preseasons ADC usually don't get anything

    • @unbotheredwaffle
      @unbotheredwaffle 5 місяців тому +9

      @@elia0162 yea i agree, most preseasons are top lane/jungle/mid changes, this year i dont remember adcs getting anything notable

    • @omega7057
      @omega7057 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@unbotheredwaffleI mean, we did get things notable last year, but they were mostly nerfs

  • @TIMxisxHERE
    @TIMxisxHERE 5 місяців тому +62

    I actually dislike that Noonquiver looses the minion damage. I always thought that made pushing / farming so much more chill.

    • @omega7057
      @omega7057 5 місяців тому +35

      Now it's an anti-farm item, since it gives you crit chance, a stat that in early game can fuck up your last hits, kinda sad

    • @LoLKriztya
      @LoLKriztya 5 місяців тому +9

      What make it even worse is that ADC has problems reaching the 1300 gold mark to get the big BF sword for power spike, noonquiver was ment to prevent that by making 3 components cheap so you can gradual improvements.

    • @omega7057
      @omega7057 5 місяців тому +3

      @@LoLKriztya yeah I remember that, was introduced in season 11 precisely because how reliant the role was on those 40 ad, now we are reverting back to it
      I like the new changes, but noonquiver been shit is something that makes no sense

    • @kstixx7575
      @kstixx7575 5 місяців тому +1

      They prolly wanna prevent kindred and graves to be broken

    • @voidroad
      @voidroad 5 місяців тому +2

      @@omega7057 to be fair nobody is going to rush noonquiver anymore
      the stats are just too bad , like if you dont crit and its just 20% you're dealing no damage, maybe a champ that really gets off the crit can use it somewhat properly but man it sucks

  • @YemYum
    @YemYum 5 місяців тому +222

    Legend tenacity being removed is triggering. Yeah bro, let’s make cc even stronger because we all know that bruisers can move without it. Can’t wait for fiddle to press q and make the bruiser completely useless.

    • @calebjay9483
      @calebjay9483 5 місяців тому +69

      Plus merc treads tenacity getting reduced by 10% like cmon guys I’d like to play the game

    • @PetitGarry
      @PetitGarry 5 місяців тому +28

      I just HOPE they will nerf cc on all champions.

    • @glenndiddy
      @glenndiddy 5 місяців тому +9

      Bro we already have league of CC memes, that's crazy

    • @poom323
      @poom323 5 місяців тому +6

      Buffing Unflinching by a lot might be help.
      Btw, a little of hard cc make you dir instanly anyway for this season.

    • @ambiguousspotlightofinsani6764
      @ambiguousspotlightofinsani6764 5 місяців тому +8

      Completely fair, now champions with non-knockup cc are playable and syndra doesn't get cucked by fucking mercs

  • @kiskidiego
    @kiskidiego 5 місяців тому +9

    I cannot wait for this patch to drop, trying to catch an ashe with permanent 500 movespeed and slow resist with no tenacity or slow resist while her morgana support forces me to disconnect from afk warning sounds super fun, thanks Riot!

    • @4fricanvz
      @4fricanvz 5 місяців тому +1

      Built deathmans then slow resist plus movesped

    • @gameguru42392
      @gameguru42392 5 місяців тому

      I mean if you are trying to solo kill an ashe by brute forcing your dumb face past 5 ppl and 7 cc spells you deserve it.

  • @BoyNextDoorr
    @BoyNextDoorr 5 місяців тому +6

    What's the point of keeping time wrap tonic if they remove corrupt pot ?

  • @nighticeeee
    @nighticeeee 5 місяців тому +83

    Every 6 months ADC items get reworked

    • @MrHighfiveit
      @MrHighfiveit 5 місяців тому +23

      and every 4 years they go back in time 4 years

    • @goatnoodles9162
      @goatnoodles9162 5 місяців тому +6

      ​@@MrHighfiveitfour?????? FOUUUURRR?!?!?!?!

    • @MrHighfiveit
      @MrHighfiveit 5 місяців тому +2

      @@goatnoodles9162 yea i think their newest timemachine is limited to 2 but they overclock it

    • @Timeforspas12
      @Timeforspas12 5 місяців тому +1

      55% of players working on league play botlane. The rest are spread out to other roles with mid right after with 20-ish%. Every if not all skin releases have at least 1 or 2 champions that are played botlane. Player satisfaction steams from the majority of botlaners. I could go on and on about it, but you get it. ADC gets reworked a lot because items changing in other roles means they're worse as a class. Tanks are tankier, adcs need a hand. Bruisers are unkilable, deaths dance gets nerfed, mages outscaling and bulling an adc, get some ap scalings nerfed. On and on. Not to mention that the botlane playerbase is bigger than people think, but also, they're the ones buying the most stuff.

    • @MrHighfiveit
      @MrHighfiveit 5 місяців тому

      @Timeforspas12 deaths dance just got buffed and those are arbitrary numbers and they just finished fixing all of those problems why are they giving the problem to other lane listen im all for balancing but this unbalancing things for another year of the other "45%" to complain so they can just revert this change in another way

  • @ad1v9
    @ad1v9 5 місяців тому +4

    honestly i enjoy nemesis rundowns the most because imo he is the least biased and most objective while being insanely knowledgeable about the game

  • @kockoklosharcheto
    @kockoklosharcheto 5 місяців тому +25

    Nooo, dont remove ingenious. Its was actually useful rune. Remove the bonus gold snowball rune, thats literally the definition of toxic. Now we have no item haste. Im very sad.

  • @coltraneleport3766
    @coltraneleport3766 5 місяців тому +1

    Does the burn from Wildarrows stack, or does it just get refreshed with additional AA?

  • @lars3340
    @lars3340 5 місяців тому +16

    But trist gets like 100% attack speed from q

    • @omega7057
      @omega7057 5 місяців тому +3

      Yeah that's probably a good factor too xdd

  • @jos3309
    @jos3309 5 місяців тому +2

    Isn't trundle really broken with the new font of life? His Q slows enemies for 75% for 0,1 sec. Doesn't he get the heal everytime he Q's? On top of his increased healing, taking the healing runes like grasp + second wind + revitalize seems pretty busted.

  • @treymtz
    @treymtz 5 місяців тому

    Maybe cut down is good if you hit one giga spell while above that threshold, it would amp the whole damage meaning it could be cool on high burst champs. Maybe your a support and you want to hurt the enemy but you don't want to last hit them. Maybe your champ is a Jhin, or some champ with missing HP damage and you want to get them to lower HP faster for your missing health damage to do the rest.

  • @theblueavian
    @theblueavian 5 місяців тому

    The extra attack speed for ADCs might help make up for lethal tempo not existing in the game. It’ll benefit ADCs who use PTA or another tune. But it’s just interesting to see how the it’ll affect which ADCs are stronger

  • @snakeinabox7220
    @snakeinabox7220 5 місяців тому +32

    Adcs get buffed, Legend Tenasity gets removed , Merc get nerfed to 20% . Swifties no longer have slow res. TIME TO CRY AS ANY Juggernaut CHAMP . Any Dot support will perma slow slow you , easy land there cc . and you cry as you get a AFK warning .

    • @lessgoo3428
      @lessgoo3428 5 місяців тому

      Ikr. its time to drop leaugue. Top 50 players in every league server are already bot mid and jgl players and they keep nerfing brusiers. Now they added chinese masteries and vangard to spy on your activity online. Its funny how the devs of this devil company believe that they re doing good decisions. These SUBHUMANS re allowed to vote.... But at the end of they day , all great games have to come to an end ...

    • @scrublord1468
      @scrublord1468 5 місяців тому +2

      Horrible patch for lower hp fighters/bruisers but bloodmail will be good on beefier bruisers

    • @zackhouserman8152
      @zackhouserman8152 5 місяців тому +1

      but in return a lot of adc items are getting ms buffs which is good for kiting. so items are more skill oriented with positioning instead of adc champs being heavy item/stat oriented

    • @361Fhwtiyd
      @361Fhwtiyd 5 місяців тому +9

      >but in return a lot of adc items are getting ms buffs which is good for kiting.
      Makes kiting and positioning less skillful. Because good luck every touching an ADC with flash ghost, fleet zephyr and ms buffed on mulitple items. Meanwhile only they have slow resist, you don't.
      Phreak szn indeed.

    • @jacksonmagas9698
      @jacksonmagas9698 5 місяців тому +4

      @@361Fhwtiyd if adc is level 15 to buy zephyr then they should be strong

  • @RobVice
    @RobVice 5 місяців тому

    Removal of futures market is huge negative change for me - I loved running it on most of my setups

  • @Thorough__
    @Thorough__ 5 місяців тому +2

    is yasuo really dead? or is it just going to back to fleet + ie to pd rush like before?

  • @Rockstar-vr4lm
    @Rockstar-vr4lm 5 місяців тому +5

    thank you nemesis for the effort, love those vids!

  • @xBinyWolf
    @xBinyWolf 5 місяців тому

    The burn item is a jhin core item. I still remember he used to pick deathfire touch as a mastery. Collector>ie>ldr/rfc>burn item>defensive.

  • @ASSASINE0
    @ASSASINE0 5 місяців тому +8

    15:40 kid named trades

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 5 місяців тому

    yeah the build path for terminus, because of when you buy it, it's probably actually better because it's really awkward when you want to buy it to get something that's only giving you a attack speed or you're like waiting a super long time to buy a BF sword. now you could probably buy it earlier like you could go it first item on kog now that kraken Slayer is going to be so shit because of the quiver thing

  • @TeppiaxD
    @TeppiaxD 5 місяців тому +1

    I love how midlaners see this and say “Fuck it was good in our lane, it was toxic everywhere else but in mid it was good” and every other lane is like “YES, GET THIS SHIT OUTTA THE GAME”

  • @trooperscientists2000
    @trooperscientists2000 5 місяців тому +1

    I dislike that they made some items more "boring", removing interesting passives for just raw stats. Yeah, the items are more consistent, but less niche. We're kinda moving back to S8 ... which .. yeah, idk how to feel about it. Really hoped they would add more items that you won't build every game, but maybe one in 10 games (I wish mages would get a proper anti shield item)

  • @oldmanwilikers1252
    @oldmanwilikers1252 5 місяців тому +6

    Runes make the game more like an mmorpg if the system is robust. I prefer a simple rune system, but I understand that if you play thousands of hours a season simple systems get boring.

  • @samurai_8917
    @samurai_8917 5 місяців тому

    If you scale cash back over 3/4 items it becomes pretty insane value, nuts in pro play where things arent as stupid fast tempo and people farm well

  • @Gert_R
    @Gert_R 5 місяців тому

    Very good take on the zephyr stuff. It's an item that will only be purchased at 6 items. Adcs should be the strongest at that point in the game.

  • @vortraz2054
    @vortraz2054 5 місяців тому +1

    Correction 3:00 Adc champions have about as much Hp as they should to survive an assassian clicking a single button. Its a problem in high elo too bro
    Out of the 400 buttons that faker can press at a time, it should be taking more than one of them to make an Adc look like a driveby. Dont argue with me

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 5 місяців тому

    I feel like absorb life is going to affect top Lane a lot. cuz if you push them off the wave and that happens a lot like people just give up the wave and they back up to their Tower and then they just farm it when it gets there but now instead of having traded before that or maybe that guy's at like half health he's going to be like almost full for the first dive

  • @Nuvizzle
    @Nuvizzle 5 місяців тому

    Feel like inspiration tree has been massacred.
    Remember when the pitch for inspiration tree was that it was going to be weird utility runes that break the rules of the game? Most of that is gone now, it's mostly just small stat boosts like every other tree, except they're weaker or more situational.

  • @TheMagicTunes
    @TheMagicTunes 5 місяців тому +12

    phantom dancer now finally good on garen!

    • @dead_locked
      @dead_locked 5 місяців тому

      I'm not sure, it has too many AS and no AD

    • @sandyins8826
      @sandyins8826 5 місяців тому

      ​@@dead_locked it has crazy amount of ms, add ms from deadman's+ force of nature - we have a speed boosted bruiser that jumps on your face and simply sticks to you without any chance to go away from him even after flesh, lol

    • @TheNBSPerry
      @TheNBSPerry 5 місяців тому +8

      It was this way 10 years ago. With 70% atk speed ​@@dead_locked

    • @davidnymann5423
      @davidnymann5423 5 місяців тому

      Na the only crit item worth building on garen is mortal.

    • @sundanser
      @sundanser 5 місяців тому

      current pd is also good on garen lol

  • @Typhoeous
    @Typhoeous 5 місяців тому +1

    I think first strike is positive for ranged poke mages, since they make short trades that don't deal too much damage and the base gold is going up if you proc it off CD it will give alot more gold early game

    • @vaale0006
      @vaale0006 5 місяців тому

      Bro i can tell math is not made for you xD

    • @Antoine-du5qo
      @Antoine-du5qo 5 місяців тому +2

      @@vaale0006 go ahead, explain the math

    • @lucasnadamas9317
      @lucasnadamas9317 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@vaale0006 10 Gold diff in base damage = damage dealt × 0.07 (bonus damage) × 0.7 (ranged debuff). You would need to do 205 (POST MITIGATION) damage early to equal the BASE gold you now get, of course it still gives you gold so something like 250 damage to equal it. Lol for sure it's not a buff to gold generation early game.
      (Maths lol)

  • @mikelezhnin8601
    @mikelezhnin8601 5 місяців тому

    I understand that I'm a bronze scrub, but imho ingenious hunter was one of the best runes in the game.
    Same was said by some more reputable players, like xPetu, and TheBausffs and Spear Shot have enjoyed the taylored builds as well (I'm talking Baumi's + eclipse and Sundered sky).

  • @ahmeteneskoksal1929
    @ahmeteneskoksal1929 5 місяців тому

    symbiotic soles probably be best on zilean and bard. being able to base at 4 seconds is pretty good you can just gank mid than return base. you can tunnel than base before enemy could reach you out even enemies like briar or seen which can jump from walls.

  • @TlcforFree
    @TlcforFree 5 місяців тому +1

    A lot of champs rely on lethal tempo to actually do enough damage late game to carry really sucks and I guess they want everyone to be stunned forever too!

  • @birdman5474
    @birdman5474 5 місяців тому +1

    is this neme's official clip channel?

  • @kotsios8779
    @kotsios8779 5 місяців тому +2

    Cleaver revert is all top lane could ask honestly

  • @ThySnowman
    @ThySnowman 5 місяців тому

    I will say as an adc main in mid master. The ghost change does absolutely nothing in terms of nerfing it on adcs. Adcs never wanted to use it off cooldown and never used the full duration.

  • @janu2997
    @janu2997 5 місяців тому +1

    I don't understand why Essence Reaver is no longer a sheen item. With 0 compensation. Rip Ezreal :(

  • @mordecai49
    @mordecai49 5 місяців тому

    Believe me when I say Stattikk Shiv will be OP in top lane. It hits 6 targets after the kill, which means other than the first minion you kill in cannon wave you're sending that 90 magic damage at your laner. 2-3 activations per wave is 180-270 magic damage poke on your laner pre-mitigation. With how fast you clear waves with this you'll likely hold them under their turret where they won't have space to move off their wave to dodge the zap without missing creeps. That poke REALLY matters in many top matchups that would buy this item and its best on lane bullies, so they're even harder to find a punish window. Looking at Jayce, Akshan, Quinn, any of the ADCs that find their way to top every few patches. Trynd will be good with this and PD. Tanks will have a nightmare itemizing against this early. You can't get access to armor and mr on the same item without Jak'Sho which skews lategame and sucks to rush. Buy all the armor you like you're losing 200 hp for free 0 interaction every wave.

  • @acvgaming5601
    @acvgaming5601 5 місяців тому +2

    On this episode of "how does this affect Yone and Yasuo"

  • @tangostacker4745
    @tangostacker4745 5 місяців тому

    26:42 i hate the meta where ghost bruisers have 60% tenacity and people say to counter them you "just cc them"

  • @361Fhwtiyd
    @361Fhwtiyd 5 місяців тому +7

    I really really hope they aren't going to only give beserkers an upgrade item. Especially after they made swiftness worse for everyone else but marksmen when the biggest abusers of swiftness boots before were ranged champs top.
    "But but muh lethal tempoo". Lethal was already heavily nerfed before removal, because it shouldnt have been in the game at all. Fleet and Pta were already the better runes for most champs.

    • @143tg
      @143tg 5 місяців тому +3

      “Fleet or pta was already better” that’s just not true even on champs that are skewed towards being able to take both, they are two different runes for different situations. One is only objectively better than the other in a vacuum

    • @JaronPalone
      @JaronPalone 5 місяців тому +1

      @@143tgWith lt nerfs it went from always going lt to now only going it if it’s a free matchup. It’s still definitely situational but not the go to for a lot of champions anymore

    • @361Fhwtiyd
      @361Fhwtiyd 5 місяців тому +3

      @wchye9734
      Was already objectively better on MOST CHAMPS. You conviniently left that part out. Then proceeded to argue as if I said it was better on all. Brainrot.
      Should have never been in the game anyway. Skewed the entire game and so many champs around it. Look at what happened in the end multiple nerfs and then finally removed.
      Was fun having cracked AS, but game is better off w/o it.

    • @143tg
      @143tg 5 місяців тому +1

      @@361Fhwtiyd no i didnt leave it out, it just didnt matter, even on most champs it is a situational choice. You assuming I left it out is actual brain rot. Theres no world where a champion that could go both would always choice pta

    • @361Fhwtiyd
      @361Fhwtiyd 5 місяців тому +1

      @wchye9734
      >Leaves it out, "no i didnt leave it out 🤡".
      >Literally contradicts himself in next line: "it just didnt matter [that it's left out]".
      Completely ignoring second point about lethal tempo warping the game and being unhealthy.
      And finally ignores main point of the comment about marksmen having mobility buffed unfairly while gutting it on other champs who needed it in their kit.
      Yes continue arguing semantics and straight up lying all because you are butthurt about addendum to the actual comment. "You're the one that has brainrot! 🤡🤡🤡"
      Go waste someone else's oxygen.

  • @mythilicar
    @mythilicar 5 місяців тому

    25:29 this is totally a jhin nerf, zerkers are just way better now because you get more move speed on an aa than with swifties. not sure why but this seems like a really hard nerf to boots of swiftness, gonna love berserkers this patch tho.

  • @connor22071998
    @connor22071998 5 місяців тому +3

    cant u just rush bf sword into pd?

  • @zavhyatta9795
    @zavhyatta9795 5 місяців тому

    I think ADC 2 item and three item power spikes will actually be insane.

  • @ssbbSephi
    @ssbbSephi 5 місяців тому +1

    its called the support tree, its meant for supporter, not rengar or tf or hwei. first strike nerf makes sense

    • @iceboorg9737
      @iceboorg9737 5 місяців тому

      Thats not what it means man
      U got it wrong

    • @yulian545
      @yulian545 5 місяців тому

      It's called economy tree nkt support

    • @diagonal3715
      @diagonal3715 5 місяців тому +1

      @@yulian545 supp the only thing that need economy tree lol
      its cancer when some assasin/poke mage gain money just for damage

  • @fitisdead8029
    @fitisdead8029 5 місяців тому

    i think wildarrows should give u vision while they're bleeding so enemy cannot hide in bushes.

  • @kabetee
    @kabetee 5 місяців тому

    I like making cc and slows stronger, because a lit of champs depends on cc not dmg and tenacity made those champs completely useless.

  • @GargingoMan
    @GargingoMan 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm sad they moved time warp/ removed corrupting, Poppy went crazy

    • @walkelftexasranger
      @walkelftexasranger 5 місяців тому +1

      Corrupting used to br great, but now it's just a shell of it's former glory.
      Not surprised they removed it.

    • @GargingoMan
      @GargingoMan 5 місяців тому +1

      @@walkelftexasranger I get that but as someone who plays 1/3 champs that would take them it's upsetting, on top of that they moved timewarp so it's not like i could just use Refills and Biscuits with timewarp

  • @Zaneee_19
    @Zaneee_19 5 місяців тому +2

    popcorn is ready enjoy watching

  • @ascend111
    @ascend111 5 місяців тому

    Can't imagine trying to chase an adc late game anymore

  • @jameelhassan2614
    @jameelhassan2614 5 місяців тому

    I love how he just skips talking about the new passive for Corki and instead he just reads the stats changes

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 5 місяців тому

    Swain's going to be really good. if they buff conquerer which they probably will then he'll be op but I think he'll be good anyway

  • @tehstrongbad
    @tehstrongbad 5 місяців тому

    Am I the only one who is super unhappy with Magical Footwear being the be-all and end-all rune on the first tier of the Inspiration tree??? I hate feeling like I'm nerfed for 12 whole minutes (if I'm having a bad game and getting no kills) by not being able to have boots, but it's such a clear winner on that tier that you'd be stupid to get anything else. This rune rework would have been the perfect time to address this OP and yet unfun rune and yet it's like one of the few runes they didn't buttfuck into oblivion.

  • @NotNyrZ
    @NotNyrZ 5 місяців тому +1

    Funny they give move speed on everything to then giga buff every cc

  • @Playmaker150
    @Playmaker150 5 місяців тому +1

    52:40 It's Galio time

  • @lucasnadamas9317
    @lucasnadamas9317 5 місяців тому +1

    I mean moving is overrated, it's fine man I didn't even want to move as dashless melee champs that got released before 2015, my bad for playing old champs tbh

  • @matepozzo
    @matepozzo 5 місяців тому +3

    minion demat gone? they are nerfing thebauss to oblivion, not fair

    • @walkelftexasranger
      @walkelftexasranger 5 місяців тому +1

      Don't worry that new Bruiser item that gives you Ad based on Hp will make Baus happy.

    • @matepozzo
      @matepozzo 4 місяці тому

      @@walkelftexasranger you were right 😂

  • @birdman5474
    @birdman5474 5 місяців тому +1

    pta, liandry, rift, shojin smolder

  • @InnerTriggerer
    @InnerTriggerer 5 місяців тому

    Frist strke + Cashback for late game scaler would be a meme build

  • @poom323
    @poom323 5 місяців тому +1

    Pta+dot(and dot-ish) might be interesting.

    • @walkelftexasranger
      @walkelftexasranger 5 місяців тому +2

      I think it's gonna be decent with that new ADC crit item

  • @00GlueGunner
    @00GlueGunner 5 місяців тому

    Honestly I like the Marksman item update so far but there's a few things that need tweaking in my opinion:
    First, Navori should be an AD item and not AS. That's the stat that the champs who will buy this item want, and also all of the cheap items give AS so it would be nice to have an AD option
    Second, since they removed Spellblade from Essence Reaver, they should make a new crit item that has it. I already know that everyone will complain once ADCs start buying Trinity and there should be a burst sheen option in the game.
    Third, give Shieldbow its lifesteal back, I don't even know why they removed it in the first place
    Lastly holy Roit buff those build paths I genuinely was taking mental damage looking at those buildpaths especially for Kraken, how do tanks and assassins get to have the most immaculate build paths and components meanwhile the only good adc component noonquiver gets turbo gutted☠️

    • @iceboorg9737
      @iceboorg9737 5 місяців тому

      Im so glad that spellblade got removed from ER
      Was being abused by few who needed to be nerfed around it and was useless for most
      Im sick of adcs dealing most dmg with passive item effects
      They should do dmg with aa imo

    • @jenyaalucard8299
      @jenyaalucard8299 5 місяців тому

      Honestly i would like to see garbage build paths with turbo strong late game rather than strong early into meh late game
      Early game adc shouldn’t be scary early, but once you meet adc late game should equal gg to you

    • @00GlueGunner
      @00GlueGunner 5 місяців тому

      @@iceboorg9737 ER wasn't even that bad, by removing a propper burst spellblade option Riot has once again forced many ADCs to be locked into buying trinity and you already know how that goes every time. Also how come ADCs not allowed to have damage item passives when the other offensive class mages have like half of their item list be passive damage effects?

    • @00GlueGunner
      @00GlueGunner 5 місяців тому

      @@jenyaalucard8299 I agree with you, but this patch already nerfed marksmen early game a lot: Without lethal tempo you don't just get a full items worth of attack speed for free, and none of the crit items are particularly good as a first purchase, so most ADCs will have to wait until 2 items to start being useful. At the very least give them decent components so it doesn't feel bad to play

  • @robertbauerle5592
    @robertbauerle5592 5 місяців тому

    I feel like total attack speed increasing is an underutilized stat. Like they could've made lethal tempo give significantly less attack speed, but also made it total instead of off of base attack speed like every other attack speed sterroid in the game. That'd mean that champions that build attack speed and champions that don't build attack speed get the same value out of it.

  • @linusfsk
    @linusfsk 5 місяців тому

    an hour dannng my boy sure is busy

  • @mrbean4049
    @mrbean4049 5 місяців тому +1

    idl what to thonk of these changes for crit ADCs: Imo it feel like you have to buy a mythic item again bc you can get 100% crit with 4 items and then you have to build one non crit item ost are gonna take BT or Kraken and it feels like u have to build these as an adc BUT it also allows adcs to build a bruiser or tank item while having max crit chance. I feel like ADC loose a lot of dps bc this pacht or im wrong idk tho

    • @143tg
      @143tg 5 місяців тому +5

      You are insanely wrong here, this is a huge buff. More than just damage but also the option to gain more survivability
      Your logic just doesn’t really make sense, “feels like you have to buy a mythic item again”, how so? You aren’t incentivized to do so with a passive that gives you stats. You say it’s because adcs now have 1 more time slot, but how does that feel like a mythic. That feels better since now you have more diversity and items are no longer heavily skewed towards mythics
      Again crit items are actually stronger this patch, I don’t know how you can say adcs lost dps. Because previously people wanted 25% crit less ad but now riot has not only given more critical but more ad as well.

    • @jenyaalucard8299
      @jenyaalucard8299 5 місяців тому

      Your dps is zero while u are dead bro. Your dps doesn’t matter if you cant utilise it correctly.

  • @jakejana196
    @jakejana196 5 місяців тому

    As a gp main, i hope they give me the option to self cast my q after this patch

  • @shadowblaze740
    @shadowblaze740 5 місяців тому +1

    99% sure that auto attack focused adc like ashe, apehlios, jinx will go
    Infinity edge ->
    Phantom dancer ->
    Hurricane.
    Insane damage. Move speed. 75% crit chance. I love it. Buttery smooth like season 3

  • @devaventus3031
    @devaventus3031 5 місяців тому

    Wanna see a clip now where 5 people buy stattic and oneshot the enemy team xD

  • @exarion2239
    @exarion2239 5 місяців тому

    They nerfed flashes to the ground in valorant. Except duelist flashes.

  • @voidroad
    @voidroad 5 місяців тому +1

    the xp change is massive
    niilah outleveling sololanes :^)
    junglers sharing xp after a gank to push waves :^)
    also 5% less xp might change which minion wave gives 6 and which minion gives level 2

  • @Velereonics
    @Velereonics 5 місяців тому

    I already have been using fleet on a lot of adcs. in lane the sustain of it is so stupid and the speed it gives renders attack speed totally useless, because they can just not fight like if they're going to lose the fight they just leave because they're so fucking fast and they heal so much

  • @boldisordorin9010
    @boldisordorin9010 5 місяців тому

    Relentless hunter the last ine standing of the og 3 hunters ✊

  • @Pentagram666mar
    @Pentagram666mar 5 місяців тому

    Guess i m gonna keep drinking tea during Morgana's Q

  • @361Fhwtiyd
    @361Fhwtiyd 5 місяців тому +2

    Good luck ever touching marksmen with fleet, ghost, zephyr and ms on nearly every item. Also you have less tenacity and only they get slow resist from boots, also swifties was changed to only really work on them.

    • @iceboorg9737
      @iceboorg9737 5 місяців тому

      ?
      But isnt that great?
      Slightly more mobility is good buff?
      Less tenacity makes it easier to catch adcs and slows are way more punishing for squishys who need to kite a lot so i think its just fair that they get that

    • @361Fhwtiyd
      @361Fhwtiyd 5 місяців тому +1

      @iceboorg9737
      Marksmen were not going legend tenacity. lts melee champs that were going legend tenacity and buying mercs the most.
      Tenacity matters less on ADC because they are most likely dead after being CC even if it is short (this is balanced because they are glass cannons). Melee champs get hit by multiple CCs in fights.
      The only squishy champs that were abusing swifties were marksmen toplane. There are many melee champs that needed them for their kit to function. Now the only champs that have slow resist on boots are marksmen. And new swifties only works on marksmen too.
      Marksmen having more MS is actually less skillful because its just much easier to dodge and reposition. It also just ruins a lot of skillshots that were balanced around lower MS. And it's not like they traded anything for this mobility.
      They were also the only class that didnt need a boot upgrade. Marksmen could always sell boots for a zeal item and still have 370-390 ms based on build.
      If a mage or melee champ sold boots, they'd be moving at 335 ms. Good luck playing the game with that.

    • @jenyaalucard8299
      @jenyaalucard8299 5 місяців тому

      @@361Fhwtiyd meeting adc 1v1 late game equals gg for u which is fair honestly

    • @d4n617
      @d4n617 5 місяців тому

      ​@@iceboorg9737 I'll enjoy one shotting each and every single adc with pantheon

  • @fuwu9904
    @fuwu9904 5 місяців тому

    "Next up: Stormrazor, the item that was also in the game"
    Just about sums it up yeah

  • @JEAFlashSword
    @JEAFlashSword 5 місяців тому

    9:05 it was fcking op what" yea bro (ZoeDPlayer)

  • @Zaphkie_Omnik
    @Zaphkie_Omnik 5 місяців тому +1

    botrk is finaly good, bc is not toxic op that you do 1 aa for 12% hp, that was sick/

  • @m4jki316
    @m4jki316 5 місяців тому

    I will never forget that riot completely removed and nerfed every single gangplank item. They really don't care about that champion.

  • @Knicks176
    @Knicks176 5 місяців тому +5

    So how exactly are we supposed to poke a champ out of lane when they run Fleet, Absorb life, Second wind and Doran’s shield 💀

    • @jacksondodd4961
      @jacksondodd4961 5 місяців тому

      Absorb life procs off champ kill only so that doesnt do anything in lane, the other things were already in the game so anti poke runes haven't changed, absorb life is for mid late game.

    • @frsteemid
      @frsteemid 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@jacksondodd4961 Absorb life procs on minion kills as well. Triumph procs on only champ kills and gives more hp

    • @bravepotatoe7513
      @bravepotatoe7513 5 місяців тому +4

      @@jacksondodd4961 you really think there would be a rune that says heal 2 hp on champion kills lol... also that's already triumph they wldnt make a completly redundant rune

    • @aiden4016
      @aiden4016 5 місяців тому

      Would be surprised if meta becomes completely one shot. Like HOB becomes standard and supports with reliable cc are commonly played

  • @way2dawn853
    @way2dawn853 5 місяців тому +1

    He really doesnt like to read his chat hu
    They were spamming for the new boots upgrade and the second passive on the new ap item for like 10 minutes straight

  • @ThatLuckyKill
    @ThatLuckyKill 5 місяців тому +1

    There is so much movement speed in the game, artillery mages are so useless but riot doesnt care at all because low elo cant sidestep. Try hitting an skill shot ability with ghost and +35% movement speed passive on champs

  • @GankAlpaca
    @GankAlpaca 5 місяців тому

    15:39 kaisa rune?

  • @fusionxtras
    @fusionxtras 5 місяців тому

    Udyr mains going to run pta and now you will not know what the fuck they are going to build.

  • @VenomNightGaming
    @VenomNightGaming 5 місяців тому

    They need to add a late game item for Sorc Shoes. AP Assassins are terrible in the game (outside of Eve... who recently got nerfed), and their jobs will get even harder with these Merc Tread buffs.

    • @yulian545
      @yulian545 5 місяців тому

      Because Assasins should be weak in late game

    • @VenomNightGaming
      @VenomNightGaming 5 місяців тому

      @@yulian545 Magic Pen is an early game stat anyways. And no, assassins should still be able to assassinate a mispositioned target late game.

  • @Yocking
    @Yocking 5 місяців тому +4

    gragas gonna be crazy op now bcs tenacity removed

    • @auraaa_2991
      @auraaa_2991 5 місяців тому +2

      Gragas’s cc is mostly knockup, which isnt affected by tenacity

    • @Sebbe33G
      @Sebbe33G 5 місяців тому +3

      @@auraaa_2991 his E is a stun which means people can get out of your q earlier, which means lower dmg and less slow

    • @auraaa_2991
      @auraaa_2991 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Sebbe33G Well his E has a 1 second stun after a 1 second knockup, the point really still stands that nothing changes with the gragas interaction, he one shots you full combo before you can do anything anyways

    • @sundanser
      @sundanser 5 місяців тому

      @@auraaa_2991 it changes a lot. try playing jax or darius into gragas without mercs

  • @truv_
    @truv_ 5 місяців тому

    rip funny ingenious hunter poppy with sundered, fimble, eclipse build. D:

  • @Knicks176
    @Knicks176 5 місяців тому

    Yeah so can we remove knights vow and bring back our glorious Hextech Gunblade

  • @jakinbakin6588
    @jakinbakin6588 5 місяців тому +2

    I know Lethal tempo was incredibly strong. But it was fun to use for adcs. Just a good feeling stacking and ramping up attack speed. Instead of having 3 runes, I hope they can add one more run for each rune tree thats fun and good. Also, without Lethal tempo they should increase the attack speed cap to 3, for mega kiting! Lol

    • @magnov983
      @magnov983 5 місяців тому +1

      Now the only attack speed cap raiser is Hail of Blades, other than BelVeth and other passives

  • @MrHighfiveit
    @MrHighfiveit 5 місяців тому

    ill be honest idk why we do this to ourselves anymore like theyve been doing minor adjustements here and there and players a sitting here thinking its coming to an end but guess what we are reworking corki so everyone has to fucking adapt smh and we were doing soo good in the last 3 patches

    • @better_mindset17
      @better_mindset17 5 місяців тому

      what are you even talking my guy

    • @MrHighfiveit
      @MrHighfiveit 5 місяців тому

      @@better_mindset17 the game gets soo close to real balance then something is thrown in to debalance it and then spend another year or two adjusting it then debalance

  • @alexcroton1733
    @alexcroton1733 5 місяців тому

    Old draven passive is kinda cool.

  • @DurgrBubble
    @DurgrBubble 5 місяців тому +1

    that warmogs buff, holy shit! so rush this maybe buy a ruby crystal if need be and you are golden ... wow

  • @torakazu2269
    @torakazu2269 5 місяців тому +1

    Wow, Singed is fucked this patch

  • @ssbbSephi
    @ssbbSephi 5 місяців тому

    reducing tenacity should have done years ago, it was way too broken .

  • @DavidZeng-me3oq
    @DavidZeng-me3oq 5 місяців тому

    I feel like legend haste is somewhat useless since mages who want the cdr don't go precision anyways and I don't think it will be better than sorcery crosspath with transcendence.

    • @ernestbany8147
      @ernestbany8147 5 місяців тому +1

      Well ap champions that go precision for fleet or conq will have quicker cooldows cuz there is no way Akali, Sylas or Singes are picking as or life steal

  • @KormitTheFrag
    @KormitTheFrag 5 місяців тому

    thank fuck they nerfed bork
    i have no idea how an item that does 30k damage every game has lasted this long.
    this entire patch fucks over champions like Vlad though

  • @bishop8095
    @bishop8095 5 місяців тому

    Hwei wont be able to take boat... its sad :c
    14:47