KCK couple has warning after property stolen by scammers
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Seree and Sipa Weroha gave FOX4 Problem Solvers a tour of the land they purchased more than 30 years ago. Land that was stolen from them in March by scammers posing as them.
The notary and real estate agent needs to be investigated thoroughly.
Most likely they are friends or family members working with each other
Nope, they were scammed too
@@issahumps I see it with my own eyes notarizer and agents working together scamming people
Oh, without a doubt
Stolen notary stamp?? If so did that notary report it to the notary office? Notaries know that those stamps are a legal identification item and they are responsible for its use. That sounds suspicious right there
The listing agent needs to be investigated.
That agent sounds fishy for sure...She is either incompetent or greedy or both!
I'm sure the listing agent will be investigated, but the real problem in this situation was with the notary.
Not the title company who should have researched the property?
The realtor, title company and the notary need to be investigated. A fraudulently acquired property ISNT A LEGIT LAND TRANSFER. Meaning it is NULL AND VOID.
Why would the state honor the transfer?
There is CLEARLY a problem in a country where anything like this can happen. Period.
Well, we do live in a country where someone can go into your house and claim they belong there than it can take up to a year to kick them out and all the cops say is its a civil matter. Yeah this country has a problem.
the interesting thing if you put it on the blockchain and said whoever has the deed in their phone wallet is the owner, the problem becomes people completely lose access to their private keys or let's say they rob you at gunpoint for the "deed". but social engineering and analog paper things with the government is a point of failure
In other countries you can't even own property it belongs to everyone aka Socialism l if you don't like this country get out, if you are not here, dont come, and worry about your own country 🤡
@@stevenrunyon170 then go somewhere else if you don't like this country, who are you voting for? Cause unlike other countries we actually can vote for people, so who you voted for put those rules into place, nothing to do with this country 🤡
Of course we also live in a country that can make a person can break into your home and say it there that just how bad is it while we had to pay tax and etc
if you didn't sign anything, the sale is fraud... the realtor is on the hook for not doing due diligence on the paperwork.
I agree, and in this case, due diligence is verifying the credentials of the notary who verified signatures of clients living out of state and who have never appeared in person. I am sure the real estate agent will be asked if she ever facetimed the clients to connect them to those IDs.
kudos to the Title Company in the pending second transaction for seeing the Red Flags.
I’m more annoyed at the multitude of systems that maintain loopholes than the scammers.
I find it disturbing that when this type of crime happens , The Homeowner is always made out to be the responsible party , but in reality it is usually The Title Company The County or The Bank that gets scammed , but they want no responsibility .
EVERYTIME someone says they are "out of town," they are actually saying, "I'm a scammer." How do people continue to fall for this BS?
I’m actually trying to sell some properties/ orchards my dad gave us , but I’m not ready to even start the selling process thinking everyone is thinking I’m a scammer 😭😭🤣
@@xxivoryy Go through a well-established real estate company. Don't do it on your own. Where do you live?
I too was a victim of this exact crime. However, fortunately there was a for sale sign put up on my retirement property, which caused my future neighbors to call me and ask if I was selling, to which I replied no. had it not been for that I very well may have had my retirement property sold. I was assured that at the title co level it would have not gone through as a sale. The realtors are not in on the scam, they are a victim as well. In my case I was hit twice in about 4 months. The first attempt was by an Asian speaking person posing as me, the second an African speaking person. The had all the id etc. but were fakes. The FBI became involved and told me this is a known problem, and it even originates from out of country. So please be aware...
The land is not gone. Fraud does not constitute a legitimate land transfer. This is why the buyer gets title insurance.
Title insurance is going to get a lot more expensive as more title insurance companies get scammed.
Exactly! That's what i was going to say. The main reason why we are paying so much for the Title Company is to validate the authenticity of the property, owners, and buyers and anything else that are required to complete the transaction legally. It calls Title Insurance, isn't it?
So sorry 😞 this happened to them. On another note I am so sick and tired of people being told what to do to protect themselves..... meanwhile the fraudulent perpetrators are rarely identified and punished appropriately.
The authority is not helping or doing the job
The realtor who listed the property is in on it.
And the notarizer also . They all work together
She was either in on it or was just interested in getting the commission. Maybe the scammers offered her a “bonus” if she overlooked a few things.
So, the county LET someone BUYING the property WITHOUT a SINGLE PHYSICAL BODY present. ALL done remotely. This is incompetency at the highest level. I DON'T CARE if you live in the North pole, if you're BUYING property, you need to be PRESENT to physically sign it - IN PERSON. PERIOD.
Well actually these scammers sold the property out from underneath the real owners.
Also, my family sold a property a few months ago to out of state people. They never showed up in person to close on the property. Their realtor and ours actually handled everything. It went fine.
Not incompetence but corruption!
Exactly! So called convenance, puts all person info on the web, opening up to fraud....
Period?
No the title company allowed it.
The notary and real estate agent needs to be criminally charged.
Finger prints should be required for real estate transactions to verify the identity. Notary stamps can not be trusted.
The seal was stolen? Is there no registry for lost/stolen seals or is literally every single notary seal out there still valid?
The problem is our numbers are publicly listed by the courts. Amazon will make a seal with no questions asked. I can reproduce any seal and the original notary would never know.
I don’t think they meant that the physical stamp was stolen. Rather somebody at simply faked it.
Your drivers license is also handed over when you are asked for them in medical offices. Hospitals and medical offices get hacked constantly.
True, but in this case, the scammers faked up the driver's licenses probably using some random pictures they got somewhere. The real estate agent erred in not FaceTiming the scammers.
Thank you, Alpha Title!
America is so broken it's not even funny! I had my identity stolen a few years ago (before Life Lock although they got hacked also) but the system, made ME the victim feel like I had done something wrong. The credit bureaus make you do the heavy listing to correct mistakes, law enforcement was no help, the banks are no help on and on and on and it was SO disgusting and frustrating. You have to start from scratch and prove EVERYTHING and it took a while to get my credit, dignity and life back. I don't wish it on ANYONE!
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Names, pictures, addresses, social security, and phone number can be stolen, but fingerprints can't. why did the u.s. move away from fingerprints when making important transactions? Convenience is not what you want when making these kinds of huge transactions, maintaining security is more preferal.
We didn't "move away". It was never required before for real estate transactions.
LMAO THE NOTARY CAME UP WITH SOME BS LIE 😂 THATS FKN COMEDY 😂😂😂
Right! If a seal was stolen, was it reported to police,
And is there a void list, that invalidates the seal?
Sounds like more than 2 scammers are working on this scam. How can a realtor be duped twice?
Fool me once?
Notarizer work with them . I see thousands of them
Good job, Alpha Title company employees. You saved the day!
FBI must get on this sick thieves!
Gotta be careful who you show your ID always keep an eye if someone wants to copy it.
They just need your name and that’s it, they don’t need to see it.
It's on file with the DMV and ALL DMVs sell their records.
you do realize it doesn't matter who you show your ID to... its out there, in some database, which is vulnerable to breach or worse yet, the company will just sell your data to whomever will pay.
When I renewed my driver's license, they requested my social security card and birth certificate and they scanned it into their system. They didn't even ask me if I approved them doing that. What the hell? That is too much information out there
Thank god the title stopped the larger land sale.
The realtor for the scammers is in on it!
How do you know? Friends of yours?
@@stevenmitchell1 yours
Title companies should begin requiring fingerprints for real estate transactions.
Fingerprints should be required on property transfers. Then even if the id is faked, fingerprints are harder to fake
Great idea.
In Georgia you need a lawyer to close
And that's a whole 'nuther issue.
That alert barely works. You won't get a notification from the county office btw. Also in LA it's delayed by 48 hrs. Way too long for an "alert"
Multiple dirty people in different job titles can make this happen 😮
We must catch those scammers ,it's enough
Any police officers or sheriff's department or judges who allow this to happen has lost their honor and are nothing but aiders and abbeters and makes them culpable in crime
Something is wrong when its easier to stole a property than buying a gun in america
Desperate measure calls for a lot fraud. As someone who worked in real estate. This scenario in my opinion appears to be an inside job. Unless things changed checks and balances are in place to avoid this. For a title company not to catch this. Seems odd.
i think all realestate transactions should have both parties appear in person in the office of an attorney or judge.
Why the hell is this happening in America?? This type of thing never happens in the poorest countries.
The agency that sold it needs to be held responsible.
Otherwise someone could 'buy' anything and everything.
This is what a broken system looks like before it crumbles to mere historical site WITH only worthless mass production artifacts left behind.
Sounds like a few a conspiring together!
That realtor and notary were in on the scam and someone is working at DMV with these scammers. Checks and Balances MUST be in place. This is JUST ridiculous. Sue all those companies and the county.
AUTOMATIC ALERTS SHOULD BE DEFAULT AND CLEARED IN PERSON WHEN A SALE IS GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!
County property recorder/assessor office is NOT doing their due diligence against fraudulent requests and applications. Title office is the LAST line of defense.
That’s not their job. Their job is to record documents in the official record. It’s the job of the title company which ultimately guarantees the real-estate transaction. That’s why you buy title insurance. The title company did not do their full diligence and now they (or their insurance company) will have to pay up. The other title company associated with the other transaction did pick up on the fraud and stopped the transaction.
@@MaxPower-11 By your logic, spies and terrorists will be able to legitimately buy property under false ID and as long as the transactions are legit and pass Title Check, they will never be caught.
We have government ID for a reason. If it's not going to be validated by agencies, then it's pretty much worthless.
@@MaxPower-11 If the government agencies are not responsible for due diligence in validating ID, then spies and worse with money will be able to infiltrate the country using false ID if they pass Title Check with a legal purchase.
We have government provided ID's for a reason. If other government agencies are not responsible for validating it, then it's easily defeated and worthless.
real estate agent just wanted a commission
The real estate agent, notary and someone in the title company were all involved in the scam. How they all never returned calls and then disappeared is very concerning.
Simple fix....
MO TRANSFER OR SALE OF HOMES....EVER, OWNERS, SELLERS AND BUYER'S, MUST BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT, UNLESS DECEASED OR ILL, THEN A FULLY VETTED REPRESENTATIVE, IS PRESENT.
So sign up for a property alert system that alertd the owners "after " property is stolen????!
Make it make sense!!?
Same group of people no one going think they’re thieves.
The property was not stolen, as it is still in the same place and the buyer cannot take possession of it because the buyer never became the legal owner. The buyer is the one who has been defrauded , as his money is gone for a contract that is null and void. Hopefully he will get his money back through his title insurance.
All those charges and fees collected by the middlemen of real-estate is SUPPOSED to protect marketplace participants. Instead, we discover it's all just paper to facilitate the illusion. An industry that's still living in the time when we had Kodak and travel agents, still existing in 2024, like the banking system, virtually unchanged from decades past.
This sounds rather off. The land was not stolen. The buyers were defrauded. Once the fraud was revealed, the "sale" must be nullified, and title restored.
How do you keep this from happening to you? Get your name off of the deed and have a competent attorney put it into an LLC. Crooks will have a harder time to prove ownership.
The realtor was definitely in this as well
In Illinois you just need to present a quick claim deed to county clerk. Loosy goosy system, but what can you you expect for Illinois government.
it's called a QUITCLAIM
You can do a quit claim in any state but it’s irrelevant with respect to this kind of fraud. As a buyer, you would only accept ownership transfer using a quit claim if you absolutely know who you are buying the property from and that they are the bone fide owners and that the land has a free and clear title history. In all other instances (i.e., a typical real estate transaction) a buyer would always insist on involving a title company that would issue a warranty deed, precisely because of this kind of fraud.
The justice system is toooooo damn lenient on scammers. It is about time they meet God firsthand.
Not just the justice system, as well as the ‘false sense of security’ most people have in regards to the prevention of fraud. Thing like this are happening more often, and the fraudsters are so hard to catch. The justice system needs to start making an example out of these scammers.
Someone working on the city is in on it
Is you mad?
Facts, then claiming "i don't know, I didn't know, I was just doing my job". If they say "I'm not at liberty to speak on that" they will be fbi candidates
@@swallowedinthesea11English?
@@danielb3863 Yup!
No. Thats not English@@swallowedinthesea11
1:10 Stevie Wonder wouldn’t be full by these fake copies
Must be an inside job
Why did Fox Delete the video of the car theft in Overland Park.
They realize a white guy did it.
Hope they sue the people who gave thier property to these crooks.
The realtor is definitely in on it. Shady af. This situation is very scary and seemingly can happen to anyone
The realtor is most assuredly in on it and should be brought up on charges.
the whole world is becoming scammers world
The scammers look exactly like I thought they would
My card has been hacked three times in the last year. Third world country operators all these companies phone Amazon Walmart they're all suspect
its best to assume your personal information is out there, readily available for criminals to use... companies do little to fund security of your data and often times just sell it in bulk.
Somebody needs to do something about mobile notaries.. end the scam
Realtors and Agents must be locked up!!
Start making having land & a house possible again & maybe the squatting, scams & theft for homes will go down.
The buyer is the one scammed. If a title company was involved, there is some hope of getting the money back from them or their insurer.
I know a real estate guy in California this happened to but supposedly he gave his property away he told them do think I’m going to give a million dollar property away, he got his lawyer and everything got fixed but man these scammers are getting out of hand
That’s scary!
Idk if I’ve ever seen someone who had eyes Black on any ID before. I’m pretty sure that’s impossible.
Obviously someone with a lot of knowledge evolving real estate. Probably Realtors People think the car business is shifty but the real estate industry is greedy beyond belief. Huge inflationary Factor.
I stand firm in believing that the buyers should be partially responsible by not doing their own due diligence. Often the buyers and the thieves are both in on it.
However those who are in the blind should do a title search and check with the courts and possibly the DMV. It seems like a lot but it's worth it. The actual homeowners should do an annual verification checklist form whenever theu pay the property tax to confirm all contact information and documents are up to date.
Can’t sell what you don’t own. The courts need to do better reinstating correct ownership when this happens. Better yet do due diligence before transferring ownership.
It is sad but it will only get worse until the penalty for such crimes is so harsh that nobody dares commit these types of crimes.
Real estate agent needs to get investigated
But why now this is happening all over almost every country 😳😳😳😳☹️☹️
Why the government allowing this scams to happen is so easy to solve it if the government gets involved but they allowing
The realtor's fault for not vetting the ID.
You are the awareness not the experience
Disgraceful.
Tittle’s company should pay the owner and get fine
The obvious is being overlooked. It's not an easy thing to do. A coordinated effort of sorts is what I see.
The police? They can't even find package thieves 😂😂 What a joke.
The realtor and notary is in it too 100% watch “pain and gain”
Senior citizens always fall
"Kudos to you for your outstanding work in supporting #crackassetsupport! Your courage in standing up against fraudsters is truly commendable. It's crucial that we take all necessary steps to safeguard the public, particularly vulnerable seniors, from these unscrupulous scammers. Your dedication to our security is truly deserving of recognition - a Nobel Peace Prize would be a well-deserved honor! Keep up the fantastic work!"
The secreg is out. Our system is broken.
"Kudos to you for your exceptional work in supporting #crackassetsupport! Your courage and determination in standing up against fraudsters are truly inspiring. Your tireless efforts to safeguard the public, especially vulnerable seniors, from these unscrupulous scammers are crucial. Your dedication to our security and well-being is truly deserving of recognition - a Nobel Peace Prize would be a well-deserved honor! Please keep up the fantastic work, and know that your efforts are making a real difference in the lives of many!"
That dude needs to help his parents more instead of showing up when they’ve already been robbed
Title companies should have access to DMV systems to verify ids and licenses.
Along with medical identity
Looking forward to 2FA on EVERYTHING to protect IDENTITY theft
Law enforcement will find them and bring them to justice
Unfortunately, these scammers are targeting the elderly. I have a coworker that had the same situation with his older parents that own a land in Texas. They found out recently that it was sold to somebody. I feel like the Title company doesn’t do their job properly since they’re in charge on that matter.
The new buyer is the one whose put of money. The real owner still legally owns the property
Yes. But if the buyer got title insurance with the "purchase" then the buyer is covered.
Title insurance used to be mostly just a formality, but not anymore.
Realtor only has one A in it... REALTOR, not realAtor....
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Someone knows that lairs. Find them and expose them!
They thought because the couple were old and being Asians, they would be clueless with what’s going on or have the know-how to proceed with the investigation on getting their property back.
Not just that. Everything is just “oh well”. The Asians are left with nothing or receive very little or any justice. Media always does this.
But yet when the couple is w the media shows you how the swindled couple or victims were able to get their land or money back through the help of that same media. Liberals. Always the same.
The viewers/public are just left with the image of oh well those Asians have plenty of money anyhow. They will survive and they probably will but does this justify this type of double standards and injustice.
The media is a huge problem related to this. Makes people wonder what their agenda is. It isn’t good. Corrupt to the core.
Scamming the elderly. They wont scam a young asian couple. Asian are pretty smart and alot are home investor