Pickleball Topspin Cheat: How To Hit Topspin Even for Beginners
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
- New to topspin or just having a hard time with it? Here’s a topspin cheat that works! Even beginners can use this hack to start to FEEL topspin and finally start hitting it and taking advantage of the benefits of topspin…
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This is what I was looking for. A good teacher slows down, gives plenty of examples, and repeats. you gave all those criteria in this video and as a newcomer to top spin I appreciate your approach to how to teach it.
Thanks! Glad it helped you. Some people dislike the repetition. Can't win 'em all. lol! We lean towards more rather than less. Want things to be crystal clear.
3.5 player here and I don't have enough time to change grips at the net. Only works when I'm driving from inside the baseline.
I've been playing pickleball for around 5 months. From the moment I began playing this game, I was getting spin on the ball because of my ping pong background. I do get good velocity with my topspin, but after seeing demonstrations of your topspin in other videos, there is plenty for me to learn. It's amazing you can hit it with such velocity and topspin even when the ball is low to the ground.
I'll try to emulate the way you do it next time I play. Your instructions are always helpful.
Awesome!
Keep using your table tennis (and tennis background fundementals-me) The Pickleballers footwork, ground stroke mechanics (hitting low to high) is atrocious, even at the pro level. And every one rushes the net EVERY opportunity like they are John Mcenroe. Hit deep penetrating topspin groundstrokes neutralizing their net rushes and come in on YOUR FAVORABLE aproach shots. Play like Stan Wawrinka..LOL!!
@@bobmalack481 I can't help but use spin on the ball, and I agree about the benefits of deep topspin groundstrokes, but I also get great results from deep underspin groundstrokes. Recently, I started to stand back further on my serve hitting the ball harder with underspin. It's turning out to be pretty effective.
I have started playing too and also played tennis in highschool... despite the obvious similarities to tennis, i think i will benefit from my table tennis background more than my tennis background.
@@ultrarunner0476 i know a 4.5 rated tennis player, and he brought that game with him to this game. He's probably 4.0 at pickleball.
Thank you Jordan! This was an excellent video for players like me that have never played a racket sport before. We never learned the laid back wrist and top spin, which comes naturally to you tennis players. Thank you so much! 😊👍😊
You’re welcome!!
Another great video Jordan. The trick is to switch the grip to semi-western from western. Also good to mention the lo-hi stroke comes from shoulder not the wrist.
Thanks Jordan! As a former tennis player, turned PB player, this really helps me. I never really used much topspin in tennis with my Continental grip, but you breaking the stroke down so specifically will help me tremendously as I grow my pickleball game. :)
Awesome! Get that grip more Eastern and it should help quite a bit.
That girl was mooning you at 00:13 into the video! LOL
Lol, I didn't notice that before.
Great job on the video Jordan. That is the best demonstration for topspin that I have seen. Keep up the good work.
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I like all your videos. They are helpful. They would more helpful, if you show them slow motion, and showing you body as well when the ball hit the
Paddle. Lots of us are biggers and don’t not know how to apply your great suggestions in court, versus some people played tennis before.
Would you please make a video, show slow motion, forehand, backhand and showing how to transfer power using your body from foot to upper body and finally to your hand.
Thanks for the suggestions. Lots more videos coming and slow motions will often be included. There are already quite a lot of our videos with slo motion. Check out any recent ones on forehand and backhand and they're there.
Thanks! You break it down so well; it really helps!
Thank you!
Happy New Year, Jordan. Thanks for breaking this down into Beginner level. I've been playing for a few years, but could never grasp the concept.
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I've been finding while doing this, many shots are hitting the top tape of the net, thus trying to see what I'm doing wrong. One of the main approaches I'm finding, is those of us that play indoors...with an indoor ball, can get our bearings of which strokes work for us, but when going outside, with a harder ball, those same approaches to the ball change! I've been playing for about 3 years now, and can get a good hard shot in, indoors, but often the same shot experience, has the ball going past the baseline. I thought perhaps getting a better grasp of the topspin might be helpful, so I'll give it a try in about an hour, as I am scheduled to play here soon. Thanks for the different ways of showing us holding the paddle in a different manner, which may help in the end.
😁 There are some minor adjustments to be made from indoor to outdoor and vice versa. If you're hitting the top of the tape then you're paddle face probably needs to be slightly more open as you brush up the ball.
Great video, Jordan. I could spin the ball as a tennis player but have trouble as a pickleball player, the point to hit the ball when you go under is at 6 o'clock? (I am a lefty) - THANK YOU!
Awesome! Glad you found it helpful.
Great video and detailed description. You make it easy to understand...now to execute! Thank you, Jordan.
Thanks Connie !
What brand paddleball paddle do you have in this video. Looks great.
This one: primetimepickleball.com/paddles/. It's a really good one.
Great videos - appreciate the education . I have been playing for about 6 months and have tennis/pickle ball elbow. What am I doing wrong to cause some much elbow pain?
I couldn’t say for sure, as there can be various reasons. Your best bet is to talk to a health/sports professional.
Hate sounding like an ad, but I had a similar issue when I started playing frequently & getting prokennex kinetic paddle helped.
Try it out (order from a company that has 30 day return policy if u dont like the paddle) to see if it helps.
Hate elbow pain.
This is the best video ever❤️❤️❤️Jordan you rock!!! Love love this!!! Something I can start practicing as a beginner 😁Thank you so much!
You’re welcome!
Thanks Jordan! Very nice video, I will incorporate it into my arsenal of strokes
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Thank for the tip ! I been watching lots of you video ! Good job !
Glad you like them!
One of your best videos yet Jordan. I’m trying to develop a good topspin but have a bad habit of flipping my wrist at the end then end up hitting the ball into the net.
Question - I can’t tell from the video but are you hitting the ball in the sweet spot or further toward the end of the paddle (away from the grip)?
Sweet spot on your paddle is the best place to hit it. On my paddle the sweet spot is a tad bit higher than normal paddles.
Great tips!
Great video, Jordan! I am trying to figure out how to (intentionally) add spin to my game and I'm not used to changing my grip position. Do you have any suggestions on how to shift the paddle to a different grip position during play when you have to think/move quickly? It looks like you didn't actually move it too much in the video so I'm guessing can be done quickly but any tips would be great, thanks!!
The grip change is so slight, you won’t see it. In my ready position I may have my left hand on my paddle, and I will use my left hand to “turn” and adjust my grip.
@@primetimepickleball Ah okay, interesting, thanks!!
5:44 The angle of the paddle appears to me that it would also apply some side spin in addition to top spin. Am I reading that motion correctly?
Side spin is typically imparted on more of a high to low motion or stroke, kind of like a slice is. We will do a video on sidespin soon.
Thank you. Working on it. :)
Awesome!
very helpful video! Keep them coming!
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Great instructions.
the concepts you describe are good, BUT, most of your videos of the the 'shots' are too far away and partially obscured by the tripod and camera that are in between. And how about a camera angle straight on from the other side of the net? thanks
Been enjoying lots of your videos. Quick question about this one. How far in front of you do you contact the ball?
There is definitely a good contact range, but if you look at the thumbnail (picture) of the video, that is the ideal contact point.
Well explained! Thank you!
Fantastic video 👏👏👏👏👏 thank you!!
Glad you though so 😄
Do you have video about differences between tennis and pickleball?
That topic may be coming in a future video…
I use a topspin lob occasionally. I think I don’t change my grip but to be honest I’m not so sure maybe I do unconsciously.
Question....I use a continental grip so if I want to hit a topspin ground stroke I should go to the eastern grip on the fly?
I came from tennis and started out with the eastern. My topspin then was really more pronounced.
I changed months ago to the continental. It’s much better especially for my backhand shots.
Thanks
Yes continental is great for most backhand shots. I change grips often when I have the time to hit a particular shot. For example if the opponents are at the baseline hitting a third shot drop, I can quickly switch to eastern to try to be really offensive with that 4th shot. It takes practice and anticipation of your opponent’s next shot.
@@primetimepickleball thanks
Jordan the problem I have is that I am at the kitchen line waiting to block the drive from the baseline with top spin and as the ball reaches me the ball dips and I missed the shot goes between my legs dipping low. Is there a way I can correct that?
You have to read that topspin has been hit and now that it will dip and adjust accordingly. Sorry for the delay.
Outstanding video!
Thanks Gregg !
Great
Is that orange edge tape? Very cool look.....where did you get it?
Amazon or Home Depot!
@@primetimepickleball Is it real edge tape for pickleball paddles or just orange tape that you had to cut? I can't seem to find it on Amazon.
Colored electrical tape. It may protect it a little bit, but it’s more for looks.
When your paddle is down in ready position your wrist is cocked back, when do you release your wrist at contact?
Not sure what you mean about releasing my wrist, but as you see the swing path and follow through goes up and around to position B. Around the time of contact is where I start to bring my paddle around which may seem like I’m releasing my wrist.
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Jorden do you still use that finishing position when your opponents are at the no volley zone. It looks like your paddle would be out of position, if you got a fast ball back. I have been trying to keep a more compact stroke, so that I end closer to the ready posotion.
When they’re up at the NVZ, I do tend to keep my strokes a bit shorter so that I can get into ready position quicker. If they are in the transition zone or at the baseline, I can swing out on my strokes and anticipate a weaker ball.
@@primetimepickleball I though so. Just clearing it up so newer player get to their ready sooner. You probably use a stance that is parallel to the net also, when up at the kitchen too.
Yea, usually open stance
@@primetimepickleball To be fair the shot you showed is great for taking third shot drops off the bounce and adding pressure to those advancing. Sometimes their is so much emphasis on the third shot advancing shot that keeping your opponents back shots get over looked. Remember as one person is practicing their drop the other is practicing how to keep them back. Both are skills you need, to play well.
Nice weather and courts. Where are you based?
Concord, ca
Hi Jordan people talk a lot about 'the third drop shot' but what is wrong about a 'second drop shot?' The server is way back and his partner is too,so they have little chance to get to the NVZ. How come this is never mentioned?
One of the most effective strategies in pickleball is to keep your opponents back while you get to the net. That puts your team on offense and their team on defense. There is no reason to give them a free trip to the net into an offensive position. That’s like a gift to them which is why nobody recommends it. The 3rd shot drop is done out of necessity because they have already got themselves up to the net. It’s your best chance (a lot of the time) to also get up there.
@@primetimepickleball Thanks Jordan, but doing a SECOND shot drop as a return of serve (if legal) will find the serving team still at the baseline (normally) and at a disadvantag. So what's not to like? Paul P
The servers momentum is going forward anyways, its an easy shot for them to return@@paulpurnell1678
Nice video, but I think you mean the paddle face is Parallel to the net, not "Perpendicular to the net"---yes??
If we’re talking about at contact then yes…parallel. What’s the time stamp of the part you’re referring to and I can double check?
What makes the ball go down is not friction, but a change of air pressure on the top and bottom of the ball. Forward rotation LOWERS air pressure ON THE BOTTOM OFTHE BALL, and INCREASES pressure on the top of the ball. This pushes the ball downwards at the appropriate forward ball-through-the-air speed.
Thanks for this detailed explanation of the physics 👍
change the grip position permanently or just for that type of shot?
Just for this particular shot, and then I’ll usually change back to a continental grip.
It is important that you mention that the knuckles should be by your ear rather your Palm facing your ear. So we should hit the ball in front by your leg rather than by your hip?
The ideal contact point is in the thumbnail, right in front, NOT by your hip. Also, yes your knuckles with be facing towards you.
Thank you for your comment. I did not catch that the KNUCKLES should be facing the ear!!!
Do you maintain the laid back wrist throughout the stroke?
For a topspin dink or drop...yes.
Does the extra. Net help keep balls from rolling
Yes
I love all your videos . I have been playing since March or so. Mostly doubles now . Will definitely try the top spin . Have you done a video on placement ? Want to figure out where to position yourself ( or practice any other variables involved ) to plan to place a shot in a certain location ( ones hard to reach for your opponents). Thanks again for all your videos! Love them!
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Could you please show us how to hit a backhand topspin?
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Every tried marking half the ball with sharpie to see spin better?
That is a really good technique for learning to see spin.
I think you meant the paddle face should be parallel to the net, not perpendicular.
I believe we were referring to the paddle being perpendicular to the net tape but I can see why it might be confusing depending on how you think about it. We want the tip of the paddle pointing as down as you can get it.
Nice job Jordan. Even got the lady at the beginning pulling out her wedgie.
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and then she disappears..
I think I love her
Aren't you supposed to serve behind the baseline ? It would have been educational the clearance of the ball crossing the net. Also we would like an idea where at what angle the ball lands in the opposite courts.
This video is not about the serve. It's about learning how to produce topspin. The trajectory is shown at several points during the video so the angle can be seen.
I think you may be confusing people when the last video was about continental grip being the best all around grip people should use and now you're telling people to change to an eastern grip. 😂 Let's just say the way you hold the paddle changes with situations and shots.
Just wait till our advanced grips video! 😉
@@primetimepickleball keep up the good work I really enjoy watching your videos
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Basically the same as a tennis topspin stroke just not bringing the racket as far back before the swing?
Big fan of your video,s but cheat ?? , some people read that heading and it gives the wrong impression .
Thanks for the feedback Roy.
@@primetimepickleball After all the great vids you put out I,m sorry to be negative, please carry on with your great stuff, I,m one of your greatest fans and try to promote your channel as much as I can..
One suggestion for a more complex technique. For me it would be helpful to see the technique visually then break it down into steps. I have watched half the video and still haven’t seen the backspin
Thanks for the feedback. This video is on topspin not backspin. We did ultimately show the full shot.
It's great that you're such an enthusiastic teacher but really...you can explain yourself much more succinctly with so much less banter.
Add your videos to RUMBLE
Thanks for the feedback. No plans for that presently but you never know.
Top spin "cheat?" Cheat here is a misnomer. There is nothing illegal hitting with topspin. It's a legal shot any time, on a serve, or any time.
You're absolutely right. Here, it's meant more as "hack" on how to learn to hit the topspin.
My problem is returning balls with topspin
Gotcha, might have to do a video on that. Thanks!
You really should utilize a mic on your person; I can hear everything at once and it’s like trying to pick the ham without eating the rest of the sandwich it’s in_ Thank you so MUCH for your consideration!! 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
good info - but a little too much talking before getting to showing for me.
It’s a PADDLE, not a racket! Rackets have strings.
Agreed.
I think it would be helpful to speak a bit faster and shorten the pauses. (or edit out the pauses).
Thanks for the feedback.
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Does no one see that person in the background at the beginning?
are they dong something weird?
Show me instead talk
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If you want to see him actuaaly hit a ball go to 7:22. Excruciating Picklball pros need to shut up and hit balls!
Thanks for the comment. I think lots of people need the help and find the explanation very helpful. If you just want to watch pros hit balls, then you can just watch any pickleball game right? This is a step by step tutorial on how to hit and feel topspin as a beginner. Here is one of my favorite Pickleball videos below.
Spoiler: this contains lots of pros hitting balls.
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@@primetimepickleball Try explaining while hitting balls. Hardly a new idea in instruction.
Talk too much for me
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I am a visual learner and I have trouble watching your videos. By the time you finally hit the ball I have forgotten half of what you have said. How about dispersing your talking points between actions.
I can tell you the groundstroke and passing shot form of Pickleballers is TERRIBLE, and I have a tennis and table tennis background, and I'm 66 at that. You need to drop down lower with a more horizontal raquet head angle hitting from low to high, and with less wristiness. Too much low raquet head 'droopiness'. The follow through on groundstrokes are atrocious even at the pro level. Everybody rushes the net like they're John Mcenroe on almost every opportunity..LOL!!
You should really consider not talking so much. You put together pretty nice videos but you repeat the same thing over and over again.
Thanks for the feedback. We've worked hard to improve this over time.
Very distracting when you keep spinning your paddle
Thanks for the feedback.
I have a hard time focusing on your videos because of how you continuously spin your paddle. Its a huge distraction in your videos. At least for me.
Thanks for the feedback
You talk too much
Thanks for the feedback
I wish I could see you in person and you could show me. This video is great but I still can't get top spin 😩 It's super frustrating
Sorry to hear. Keep at it. Maybe find a coach in your area to work with you on this.
Great video!
Thanks for the feedback.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it