How Anyone Can Quickly Spot a Fake Logger
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- How to know if someone is a real logger or a fake. If you saw someone cutting a tree down, how could you know if they were really a logger? I will tell you a couple ways. We will also get to watch a tree fall down. I cut down a couple trees and do a little logging with my tractor. The tractor is a Massey Ferguson MF 30 MF 34 with a Farmi tractor winch. These Douglas fir logs will go on my Woodmizer LT 15 sawmill to be cut into lumber.  the chainsaw I am using is a Stihl MS 462 with 32 inch bar. Do loggers really yell timber when they cut a tree down? Is a logger the same as a lumberjack? We will answer these questions too.
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Looks like this is another video where I need to make a clarification. The whole premise of real logger versus fake logger is a silly one to begin with. The purpose of this video was just to have a little fun, not to be taken too seriously.
Remember nobody has a since of humor anymore and only one feeling, lol. Thanks for sharing a part of yourself for us all!! PNW gets it......
sense
That place you keep referring to was formally called Acadia.
Nova Scotia? New Brunswick?@@lbatlas2
"I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok. I sleep all night and work all day. I cut down trees, I skip and jump. I like to press wildflowers. I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars" Remember Monty? Timber!!!
You can usually tell the real loggers when they get out of the truck, and they look hungover but they haven't had a drink in 5 days...
I've know alot of loggers and many were hungover alot, in the 60-70s
Those were Different Times , and I miss them We yoused to have a saying If You Can't work with a Hangover Don't Drink. @@williepelzer384
Thats pretty funny. Cause its true.
looking hungover because we didn't drink for 2 days.
The number of camera changes while you were harvesting the logs. Was amazing. I can appreciate how many setups had to be done to get just the shot you wanted. Plus all the editing that goes in to making it interesting. You have more skills than I think you realize partner.
And it's greatly appreciated.
And I only forgot to turn the camera on maybe 5% of those camera changes. Thank you for the comment.
@@WilsonForestLandsif you had a second camera we could see the surprise camera relocation
when I was a climber for a tree service we yelled "HEADACHE" B4 dropping a limb.
Several arborist have made the comment about yelling headache. I like it.
I would change headache to hole in one
ew.. lol.
I say timber every time in my head like a little kid. lol
As they say, what happens in your head when you cut down a tree, stays in your head when you down a tree. 😁
@@WilsonForestLandsif you're in the woods, far away from anyone, you can yell whatever you want and no one will know.
My first clue is they have a UA-cam channel. LOL
I am sometimes asked to log a tree only because I own a couple chainsaws. I always tell them NO unless the tree is a hundred yards from ANYTHING 😂 Thanks for informative and sometimes amusing content! I appreciate it!
Hard to go wrong when a tree is 100 yards from anything. 😁
You made me curious so I looked it up. According to "Gaggle", Lumberjack was a Canadian term, just as you suggested, although it was coined in 1830"s.
Red and Black 'buffalo check' flannel was adopted in the 1850's so as to stand out in the forest and also so as not to be mistaken for a bear or deer by would-be hunters.
My grandfather was a logger in Michigan. He wouldn't yell 'Tim-ber' either, but instead he would yell "get the eff out of the way, jack-ass!"
Another good video, Wilson.....enjoyed it.
Tom
Interesting stuff, even older than I realized. I like what your grandpa yelled even better. 😂
Bears also wear checked flannel.
@@raincoast9010 That's why it's called "Buffalo Check", so we know the difference between bears in disguise and lumberjacks.....!😂
Nice trick with the cable to divert the log away from it's in line neighour!
A roll with a kicker
Yes, I liked that. I used to be a choker man for a year or so and that's a pretty neat trick I never learned.
Yeah, snatchblocks are your friend. I think safe snatchblocks are one of THE major improvements over the equipment my father's generation had to work with.
@@HubertofLiegewe always just called that a parbuckle. It works really well on stump bound logs too.
@@georgevindo he’s also an okie choker
I agree. When I use to work at a sawmill. I had people come to work saying that they worked at sawmills before. But the thing is. They couldn't stack or even know the kind of tree we was running out of the sawmill.
>we was
😑
@@himhim3344 we were
Liked the way you got one log out of the way with cable thank you for your time
I worked in the logging and sawmill industry for 40+ years. Gotta admit I’ve yelled timber a few times when I was a wee lad. Cool video Wilson. Watching you running through the woods and tripping, looked more like you were being chased by a bear.
I have never been chased by a bear so I wouldn’t know. It might be more like the way I run when I am being chased by yellowjackets. 😁
Oh no, he's doing slapstick now.
I think I crossed that line on this one.
Well, I think that trick, or whatever you may want to call it, with the cable was the main thing to learn this time. Nice one.
I thought I should put at least one good bit of information in this video between all the nonsense. 😁
That is one of the first things learned by a skidder operator or catskinner if they are paying attention. It is also used to slide a log sideways to get it out from behind a stump.
A "kicker" in my neck of the woods.
I've heard arborists yell "HEADACHE" prior to dropping branches or logs out of a tree. One of those arborists logged in Alaska during the summers but would work as an arborist near his hometown during the fall and winter.
Some like to reserve "headache" for emergency use and "stand clear" for intended falling objects.
Its very common in construction trades too.
@@georgevindo I know rock climbing has its own version. Anything going over the edge is "ROCK." It doesn't matter if it is actually a rock, a rope, a harness, etc.
Ya know what would be kinda cool? For us firewood guys and amateurs? If you showed the basics of chokers, how they work and give some details about skidding tricks and tips. Now, these things would seem obvious to you, but would be essential to us ! Thanks! God bless!
I thought that was what a lot of my channel was about but maybe I need more detail.
I’m a new subscriber….so I’ll dig into it more closely @@WilsonForestLands
Learned something new today….run winch line into the saw cut to skid. Thanks
@@WilsonForestLandsI've got a lot of Woods on my property , There is a big Logging Industry in my area , Owen County Indiana , Spencer Indiana ,many large Mills and lots of Loging going on .I was a General Contractor my whole life Retired in my 70s , Had a firewood business when I was younger , Really Enjoy the education I'm getting from your channel .
That second notch was flawless from that camera angle. Super smooth.
I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay
I sleep all night and I work all day
He's a lumberjack, and he's okay
He sleeps all night and he works all day
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch
I go to the lavatory
On Wednesdays I go shoppin'
And have buttered scones for tea
If you see someone signing this song, is the real way to know if they are a lumberjack!
@AlanW wait so do real lumberjacks watch Monty Python and sing the songs or only the fake ones? Gotta entertain while sharpening the chains late at night somehow.
I love your sense of humor! Greetings from Michigan.
I'm a lumberjack. And I'm okay. 😂
Do you wear women's clothing? 🤣
Just like my dear mahmah.
While eating spam spam and eggs.
I knew I was going to get some Python in the comments. 🤣
@@WilsonForestLands YEP ! It was unavoidable given your audience. BTW they beat me to it.
Mr. Wilson, I love your sense of humor. Keep it up and here is to another 30K in subscribers just around the corner 🍺 😉👍
Thank you Daniel. Maybe another 30 K if it will stop raining and snowing here and I can start getting more videos out again.
I worked in a mill for10 years and have used a lumber jack, a 12 inch roller mounted on a tripod used to load lumber in a boxcar.I then worked in the woods for 40 years and saw a lot of logs and loggers but no lumberjacks.If you called a logger a lumberjack you'd run a good chance of getting your nose flattened.
I lined up my first logging gig with a buddy up on Forest Creek Rd back in '86. We were 16. The old timer said, "Have you boys done this kind of work?" We said, "Sure, we do this all the time!" He responded, "Well, you'll figure it out."
I can just see an old timer saying that. I have known a few like that. 😁
I found your lumberjack comment funny, because that's exactly what you are and so am I.
to me a logger only logs. A lumber jack logs, saws lumber, and sells it.
Hmmm, well that puts a new twist on things. You just threw a cog in my wheel and I’m having a hard time pulling it out because what you say might actually make sense. 😂
Another great video brother, thanks for the humor
In what now seems so distant in my memory I got called a timber tramp ( bucking and splitting firewood at random sites for daily pay ) but I never stayed around long enough to be called anything else so the terminology escapes me but it was great work and a lot of very interesting people.
Now that was slickly done -- using the cable under tension to 'nudge' the closer log out of the way, so as not to pull both logs (10:10 mark)
You oughta be a teaching this in Tree School.
(Yes, folks, Tree School is a thing. Look it up, sponsored through Oregon State University Extension.)
Well done, sir and another likeroo!
Cheers from your impressed neighbour to the North.
Up here we call it Lumberjack School. If you’re a woman, or identifying as such, you go to Lumberjill School.
"Up here"? How much further North are you than Oregon?@@Bushman9
@@lpeterman Well, Canada!🇨🇦
Ah, well alright then.
As a transplanted BC boy, now in the Willamette Valley, I concede to your (current) Northerliness.@@Bushman9
@@Bushman9 Lumberjill School- somehow I figured somebody would come yup with that... I was surprised Mr Wilson didn't. You two should do comedy together...lol
When limbing once it's down.... specially with multiheaded or alot of main branches ones (like oaks, maples.... decideous trees), I start by cutting off the tips of theses branches, or the top of the hole tree. So you don't risk getting rolled over on by the tree getting unballanced to quickly by loosing main limbs. But don't tell anyone, i'm not a logger. It's just my sport.⚜️
To make a confession myself, I have done that too on occasion. I won’t tell if you won’t.
Every tree that has been fallen around me. “Watch your shit” is the most common call out lol
'I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay', but then I'm old and a Brit. Monty Python were gods.... Spent the last 2 weeks working as a saw man knocking over hardwoods, sectioning to spec and bunching for a forwarder. Bet that's different words. Soaked to the bloody skin 'cos it rained for days at a time is pretty universal......
A good post would be on your choice of chainsaws, why you run a long bar like David/Kelsea, if you can buck/split and haul out to an easier to get out of delivery/storage area, why you do not use an X27 splitter, which maul you do use, how to use a truck/cable to "squeal out" logs like David does if we do not have a tractor/logging winch, if you have a first aid kit/what is in it, if you carry an emergency locator like the Garmin, and so more stuff. But what you do is perfect also. Thanks, Bob in Nevada
I also watch David & Kelsie. Thoes 2 are fun to watch and be around, too..😉👍
All good suggestions. I think some of those I have done videos on. I will probably be doing one about my choice of chainsaws soon. I am not familiar with David and Kelsea. I have several videos using truck and cable to yard logs. Not sure if it’s the same as what they do. I will have to check them out.
I would also think that if you were out on a mountain side and you were working with a few other guys who were felling tree's, then you might want to yell out uphill! That way based on the sound of your voice in relation to where the other guys were? They could determine which direction the tree was falling?
I very much love this video, Mike. We need another visit. Take care, my friend .
Thanks Jeramy, I had a little fun with this one. Yep another visit would be good.
All this "he-man" lumberjack talk flying around makes me wanna charge up my DeWalt tree trimmer so i can yell, "TIMBER"
When working with someone in the woods, instead of yelling “TIMBER” I prefer to do this;
I wait until they are right in the path the tree will take when it falls and then, pointing AWAY from the tree, I’ll yell “HEY!! LOOK AT THAT!” While they’re distracted, I drop the tree. It’s a lot of fun to watch their reactions. Some day I’ll make a visit and show you how it works.
Your good friend
Dave
Dave, I can totally see you doing that. 😂
If you see someone cutting a tree down and they yell out up the hill but the tree ends up going down the hill this is a good indication that they are not a real logger or if they are, they are at least not good at their job. LOL
😂
That are they forgot all their wedges and ax at home
I have found, in my most limited of experience, that the number one indicator that I need to be looking out for a tree falling is when I hear a MFing CHAINSAW going :)
The old timer who taught me used to yell, "You're in the way, damn kid!"
...when they call them rakers or depth gauges instead of the proper 'thingy-mah-doodles in front of the teeth' they might not be a real logger...😁🤣
That may be the best one yet. I think you may have to do a follow up video on this one. 😂
Drags@@WilsonForestLands
I've never heard them called anything but rakers and I logged for several years, fell on the west coast too.
I just buy me new chains off the Amazon. $25 for 3 new 3/8 chains. Then I don’t need to know the fancy words for chains when I’m just gonna leave the oldies in the woods. JK
I've yelled timber on a couple of Bigguns just for the kicks. We always had exclusion zones and safety precautions etc.
You sir ,are a great Lumberjack ! Thanks for sharing this video .I like your cable trick skidding the logs ,only a true Lumberjack would know how to do that !
😂
The term Lumber Jack is from the days of hand logging , the used jacks to fall and move massive coastal logs . Exactly what the did is a mystery to me as it was before the day’s of machinery . But somehow they got the logs into the water . 👍🇨🇦
@@cameronhamer9432 We laid wooden poles down as rails and rolled them out.
@@georgevindo my Dad started out horse logging , cross cut saw and a axe , wasn’t until after WWll until he got his first powersaw . The coastal timber here is massive , moving those giant’s by hand is a art all of it’s own . 👍🇨🇦
Min 9:27 that's a sharp 👌🏼 fan chain brotha big rooster tail wood chunks
Square ground chain with aggressive rakers. I like good sharp cutting tools. 😁
I live on 95 acres in northern michigan. If someone asks what im doing i say lumberjack activities. Felling and milling. I didnt know it was a forbidden name😂
We call 'timber' here in Tasmania. No joke. Learnt it from dad who was an fashioned forestry man.
I always yell headache being a tree climber,Cutting from above. Buts it's always a pleasure to prune ankle high stay safe.
I think this is more a case of how to identify whether someone's ever been a faller or not. there is an entire generation of loggers now that have never hand fell a tree. There are also many other occupations in logging that don't require you to be falling trees at all processor operators loaders yarders none of those require you to know about falling.
I’ve been logging for close to 60 years and I yell Timber all the time. In fact I’ve been yelling Timber since my dog Timber was a pup.
Sunday morning knees hurt back hurts iso want to be logger😂 your fun to watch give hope looks like your having fun . Arms 6 " longer now and Monday coming soon. Pretty looking woods thanks for the videos looks nice out there where I come from Ray many trees left😂😂😂
Don't forget if they set the saw on the ground and stick their foot in the handle to start it. Drop start that bad boy like a real man!!!
To tell the truth we put up signs saying active logging in progress KEEP OUT With skidders loaders going who gonna here someone yell TIMBER I dont want to hurt anyone but a lot of firewood cutters are not the best to meet with a logging truck
Did I just hear you say lumberjack 6 times 🤣
What? I didn’t! Oh wait, I did! Uh oh, this doesn’t look good for me. 😂
It's all about the costume. That's the easiest way to tell 😂
I would have mentioned that but I didn’t because my costume is only about half right for a real logger. 😁
that's the reason real cowboys went to wearing bedroom slippers, so as you could tell them from all the line dancers and truck drivers.
It’s great weekend work I use a 1953 Ferguson tractor here in Aus.
Mr Wilson, Did you ever wonder why it wasn't lumber joe, or lumber bill, lumber bob hey maybe lumber sue...lol, after all there was a boy named sue... I better quit and leave the funnies to you.
Actually yes I have wondered these things. 😁
Well for one, you just started out asking for a barber chair, but hey look how long those slabs will be right 😂
You’re funny and it’s good because you’re not trying to be funny, which makes it even funnier
I never yell "timber"
We always yell "lumber", jack.
😂
My friend my old man cut more trees down than you will ever walk around in your life. He always yelled lumber for his own amusement.
I guess it was my body double Falling Timber for the last 30 years....lol I will find him, and bring him in for interrogation...
I’m a guy from City
with an electric pole saw.
Can I watch?
Of course, we are a guy from the city with an electric pole saw friendly channel.
I thought fallers normally were a bit solitary when falling, far enough apart to not interfere with each other. Why yell, they know where each other are at for the most part and can hear the saw running.
You know that you are talking to someone who has worked in the timber industry, in a logging camp, especially in the PNW, if they know what your specific job was if you say that you are or were a cutter.
here in north Italy we scream attention before the back cut, if we are sure that is stable till that point, else before.the other things that I look for real or fake logger is looking if they look at the sky when are cutting.🙂
Best one yet. Timber.
["How To Know if Someone is Not a Real Logger"]
Ive been yelling 'TIMBERRRR' here in New Zealand all the flippen time. And only NOW do you tell me you don't here me in the American north west.???!
I always thought it’s whether you stir your coffee with your thumb?! 😅
I like that choke method when skidding. Setup the cable so it pulls the one log away from the other.
Its called a par buckle.
Me "logger". Got a license. 😁
I'm going to start yelling timber now. Bring it back ya know.
Well I could go there, but I won’t 😂😂😂
I had someone once jokingly tell me to put the tree back and do it again because I forgot to yell timber 😂
My nickname has been lumberjack for 45 years. A term bestowed on me by the old timers I worked with. Now you're telling me my whole adult life has been a lie 😮💨 hope you're happy......😉😂🤣
Sometimes we have these moments where we realize, we have to do some real reflecting on our lives. 😂
@@WilsonForestLands that's alright, I've scheduled counseling 🥹
As an arborist I yell " headache " and " back cut " depending
Headache, I like that one. Another arborist mentioned they say back cut. That makes a lot of sense.
It's interesting that your basis on somebody's experience is their regional dialect. Over here on the East Coast you yell timber to alert fellow loggers that you're falling a tree whether it's in a direction or not. Over here on the East Coast lumberjack is a term that is used in the logging industry. We have an 80-foot statue to Paul Bunyan a lumberjack for instance. It would be interesting how you would do over here on the East Coast with your West Coast terminology people probably wouldn't know what the hell you were talking about either. Thanks for watching my videos never claimed to be a professional longer by the way 😂 and it's funny you refer to a land far far away yes 3,000 mi away into you I guess Canada is another land.
Perhaps you are taking this video too seriously?
Your baby Yarder is quality
Nice lumberjacking timber guy lol
😂
In the PNW I have $3k into trying to get a tree permit for an arborist to cut a tree like that in my yard.
back cut, tree coming down!!
I've noticed in a few of your videos that you continue with your back cut for 3,4 even 5 seconds after the tree starts to fall. I'm scared of top wood falling and usually get the hell out at the first indication the tree is moving. Is there a reason you hang in there so long? Thanks for the great videos.
Thank you for the wonderful videos. I thought the term lumberjack was something that is mostly associated with a person that featured in tv comedies and wears shorts. Greetings from Bulgaria
Lumberjacks have big blue oxes.
An amateur stands still and watch the tree fall, a pro walks away from the stump and prepare the next step. When a tree starts falling I often say "Yep!" to my self and the tree... 'cause there is no one else around.
The flat headed burrower kills the tree but how does the tree die ? Is it basically being 'ringed' where there's no bark left or sapwood allowing the tree to absorb nutrients or water ??
I always thought you could tell by the color of their chaps. If they are black and covered in little rips, he was worth talking to. If they were green he either lost his when they blew out the back of the truck or just got his stitch’s out. Orange means, well probably means they were sold out of green but not sure, nobody ever wore orange if they could help it. Course first they they teach you is to wear bright colors when being filmed so maybe it means he’s a decent videographer 😉👍🏼
No, sir..."lumberjack" is a real professional term. I know, because I saw the song about them on Monte Python. 🙂
"I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK, I sleep all night, I work all day..."
I enjoy your videos...thanks for taking to the time to share them!
I knew I was going to get some Python comments. 😁
GREAT VIDEO ......
I like to yell "Falling!", whether it's limbs being dropped or a tree being felled.
I'm also definitely not a logger.
We do horse logging with the Amish.
One guy has an old Cletrac.
They all use chain.
Do you have a video how to set choker cables?
I've seen videos mostly in BC but never saw how they work.
Thought real loggers walked at 45 degrees to the tree as it started falling, Not 90. But not using hearing and eye protection makes a logger? Was a Humboldt wedge cut necessary on these small diameter trees? A logger might go Quicker for a regular wedge cut to get more trees down faster.
Felling like I learned something, but Stihl not certain.
To communicate accurately, just before falling, I always yell the precise direction in decimal degrees. In my youth, I’d call out using degrees, minutes, and seconds, but after a few mishaps, I realized this was too cumbersome.
For example, yelling, “DDD° MM' SS.S" 32° 18' 23.1" N 122° 36' 52.5" W,” can be misunderstood over an idling chainsaw. Maybe due to the quantity of alphanumerics.
So I just stick to numbers, for example, “32.30642° N 122.61458° W.” This can be preceded by a phone call or text message.
Remember, keep it simple and be safe!
What if they say there are a faller or bucker or catskinner or bullbucker
Must be a weird country that country far far away. 😂
In Minnesota how do I yell directions? Up the flat, down the flat, and around the flat?
If you are working on a step slope the one thing you don't want to hear is? Rollie. If you do you better dive for cover like a ground squirrel looking for it's hole in the ground before you get squashed.
Funny
Real loggers
Thats right ya dont yell timber ya yell lumber. Timbers whats standing.
😅 I used to heli log in British Columbia and a lot of new guys would ask me which trees they should choke as I was the hooktender,I would just say logs then look at them for a response. It usually took a while for them to figure it out.
@@Whateva67I love that!!!
Timber also what's just been laid on the ground.
@@georgevindo we also had a guy that called the chokers cables so his new nickname was cables,I’m still friends with him almost thirty years later 😎
How to tell a weekend logger? When the tree starts to fall, they keep cutting... Let the hinge do its job & get out of the path of potential entertangled dead branches above. No reason whatsoever to hang around & keep cutting the hinge..
I’ve been looking at property listing in Humboldt county, I’m guessing your properties are in Humboldt. I’m surprised to see snow, and in another of your more recent videos, report temps over 100.