Storm Camping: Shelters
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Here are some storm camping shelters that I like to quickly deploy when heavy rain or wind hits!
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As a Boy Scout I used a piece of poly sheeting for a backpacking shelter. The plow point setup you show was my favorite configuration. (The poly doesn't give as much privacy as the tarp but it was Boy Scouts - everybody knew what everybody else was doing already.)
Instead of tie-out points I'd form a pocket in the poly and tuck a rounded pebble into it, then tie my cord around it on the opposite side. That held the cord tight without having to pierce the poly. It's also handy if you need to attach a cord to a tarp at a place where there's not already a tie-out point.
Used that on a three week Outward Bound mountaineering course.
Be careful. Think ahead. You depend on this cheap piece of plastic.
Love watching this channel, you teach so many valuable things that everyone should know.
One reason you get more straight pines in dense forests, at least in my North America, is that shade helps suppress pine weevils. They like warmer temperatures and thinner bark. Weevil damage to the tender treetips prompts the main trunk to fork apart. It happens a lot more on the verge of the forest for this reason.
Good video. The first key point is really important. Set up in minutes. But that's not a quick set up. I have a Big Agnes tent that claimed it could be set up under the rain fly. Problem is there's nothing to hold the poles in their arcs. So I made a ground sheet with webbing extensions that could do this. I color coded specific corners.
I never use dark or black cord. Orange, or that reflective stuff. I want to see it.
I also made a DIY tarp tent (Frankenstein's monster is much prettier). No D rings, grosgrain loops. Lines attached. I also have a set of paracord lines already tied that I can loop over my hiking poles, stabe them in the ground stake out 3-4 places. Tarp goes over. No tree is needed -- good but a complication. Instead I just insert stakes in the pretied paracord lines (these can be adjusted, but usually I just move the stake) along the perimeter I'll put a a mini stake through a grosgain loop, twist it a couple of times, stick it. I almost always set up without adjusting the length of asingle line, or tying any knots. And if you're DIYing? Don't bother with any of that catenary stuff. It's just creating a permanent wind gap. Instead sew one or two more grosgrain loops along the perimeter and on the windward side, stick in a couple more stakes.
The best part of using a tarp tent instead of a regular tent in high winds is the tarp is always a series of triangles. Very stable. In high winds in Connemara, Ireland my DIY barely fluttered.
I never bother with sticks. Last year I hiked with a couple of Filipino Army Rangers, jungle survival experts. Part of our hike was going to be a demonstration of fire starting. These two men who are experts, who knew the forest where we were.... nevertheless brought along and carried a piece of dry non rotten bamboo. I looked for similar bamboo along our route. Saw a lot of bamboo, none that would be good for fire starting. Finding the right stick is often just not going to happen, ground sticks are usually rotten, trees at the right distance range for a hammock can sometimes be really difficult ( You know when you find the perfect trees because there's a nasty rotten widow maker limb directly above. It's why I haven't done much hammock camping. Weighs as much as a tent, more than a tarp, terrific but a bit fussy.)
Mini stakes weigh almost nothing. I never bother scrounging for sticks. I noticed on my second or third day hiking in April 2018 in Dorset that I'd lost two orange stakes. I hadn't lost any of the smaller dark red ones. They had a string attached. Tails. I attached a few inches of orange para cord to the rest of them. Over the next three months never lost another one. The key to how these 'tails' work is: 1. There are two colors, somehow I could overlook orange, but not a smaller red and green. 2. The tail increases the size of what I'm looking for and is a flag. (At home I taped tails to all my remote controls, can always find them, and can always pick them up pointing in the correct direction.)
The tarps I use with a ridge for hammock camping, -- I always run a line under the ridge to ease the tension on the tarp material. If a tarp doesn't have pull out loops in the middle of the panels I'll add them. I only silicone seal the stitching on the inside, I almost never silicone seal the hem that will always be near the ground or at the opening. (I buy 100% silicone bathroom caulk in the smaller 'toothpaste' type tube, at the lumber store, Mix it with paint thinner or mineral spirits. I don't mix it evenly. The thinner stuff paints on, the thicker bits fill in areas like along a ridge seam. This works for silnylon and everything else. Go to plumbing and ask for 'flux brushes.' You'll spend more than one little kit at Cotswolds or REI, but you'll never run out of sealant. And one of those kits is never enough.)
Something else. I assumed that being in London before my walk I'd be able to find a ground sheet for my tarp tent. I settled on an overpriced one just a bit bigger than my sleeping pad. If I couldn't find a bigger, less expensive, piece of gear in London, I realized I'd better make sure I have it, or make it, before I go. (I sewed the tarp tent. My sewing was terrible, my new machine was a bit out of whack. Still worked. Sewing is a good fun sill set to have. You can sew thick webbing with any steel framed home sewing machine. The ball needles go in between the tough thread of the webbing. I've made safety loops for sailing that can take anything a factory sewn loop can. I hesitate at DIY climbing webbing.) I did like that ground sheet. It was just enough. Because a tarp has 360 degrees of exits and bare ground, I cook with my JetBoil inside.
I always have my guys attached also, but I also attach tarp bungees, these automatically adjust to wind pressures and keep perfect tension without risking a rip and you don't have to worry about cordages stretching over night. Starting off with micro paracord, about 14-15 inches of it, making fixed loops about 2 inches long, and the elastic tube about 3" long. Maximum stretch is about 6 inches. When I am setting up, I always start them at about 1/2 stretch or just under, it's a lot more springy and I almost never have to adjust for stretched lines either. I don't recall ever having to adjust them after the fact even.
your tarp skills are nothing short of amazing.
idk why I watched this, I dont camp
You watched this because TA Outdoors is awesome !!!!!
I watch because it puts me to sleep.
Sometimes it's just interesting to see what other people are doing in the world
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This is the best tarp setup video ever
Great video! I already watched it twice, and plan on watching it MANY more times, taking notes!!!
Nice one. Do like the versatility of a tarp . Take care 👍🏕
Great content as always. This takes me back to my youth serving as a Royal Marine Commando. I prefer a tarp over a tent with the points you have mentioned. It's versatile, and on summer days, it can ve turned into a hammock. The other alternative is a bivvy bag tent, this is great if you're trying to hide out of plan sight and/or if you're doing a long endurance ride that requires you to camp, these are also ideal. The only downside to a bivvy bag tent is that it doesn't give you much room to carry out some much needed personal/kit admin in the dry. This is where a tarp wins. I tend to spend more time away in my camper rather than sleeping in a heavily grown woods sleeping on backbreaking tree roots, haha! Great times had! Once again, keep up the great work.
Amazing video bro❤
I want to be a royal marine, any tips you could give?
@harryfoxley763 hello, I'd say enjoy every moment as the pain will end when untaking the Commando training. Work on your fitness, compound movements, swimming, cardio with some weight and calisthenics workouts/HIIT training. Listen to the DS (course instructors) they have been there and no what it takes. Never be too shy to ask questions. If you do join you'll have a brotherhood/friendship like Never experienced before. Best of luck to you bud.
"personal admin"
combat wanks
Very nice. Reminds me of my (U.S.) Army days. 🍻
Thank you for the upload Brother!
Another great how to video.
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Nice
Cool Video 👍
Thank U for the Info and links 👍
Have you ever tried a video where you accidentally bring the wrong gear and how to adapt? Like a tarp for colder situations or the wrong equipment?
Tarps have one weakness for a indoor person like me: Mosquitos
I would hunt every single fly in the forest before I'd go to sleep.
Yes, that can definitely be a downside. A Smokey fire helps, but without zips and mesh on the tarp it does have its downsides.
❤❤❤great video. support brother
Question:
How do you go about preventing rain water from flowing under the tarp or tipi tents? on different types of ground surfaces? dig a trench around the outside tent/tarp/tipi shelters?
1. Throw up a small earth wall against the outer edge of your tarp
2. Dig a rain trench around that
3. Optionally dig a water-off canal leading away from your shelter
Ok so sleeping bag on a soggy ground now your wet and cold. How do you solve this? Ah ta fishing i enjoy that. Ill sub because your related 😊
I love watching your videos. I have an issue that I need help with, though. One of your vids went over different types of knots and hitches.. I sat there for like a week, 30 mins a night, practicing. But yet, it's easy for me to forget or confuse myself. Any tips or tricks? Thanks to anyone eho replies in advance!
Try learning just one thing at a time. Do repetitions of previously learned stuff to retain it. Search "memory spaced repetition" for tips on how long between these.
The thumbnail looks like the intro to a murder mystery. I was severely disappointed there was no teleporting douchebag in the background.
Ponchos ?
I do love the idea of tarp shelters. Unfortunately in Australia there are too many bugs, spiders and slithery things that can enter all the openings. If there was a way of excluding all those things then I'd certainly give it a go.
yea man waking up to 500 mosquitos biting me doesn't seem ideal
Try sleeping without a mosquito net in the swamps of Gamboa, Panama. Remember the commercial for OFF! where dude put his arm in a clear box full of mosquitoes? Just like that.
Gotta get the hammock one that seals
A Bivvy bag, one tent peg and an ockie strap will keep the mozzies away.
Same in South Texas mate. Although not as deadly as down under.
Great teaching tips! The Army taught us Infantry Grunts to use a downed branch, to stick directly in the ground where the rain runoff from your shelter will be and draw a deep line away from your shelter. I always made my lines wide & deep. This gives the rainwater someplace to go and prevent pooling. Also, it's also a good idea to grab handfuls of leaves and put them all around the bottom of the shelter. This keeps the wind from blowing thru any ground gaps all around the shelter. I always found dead tree limbs and put them on top of the leaves all around shelter. Keeps them from blowing leaves completely away in strong wind gusts. Remember the name of the game is to stay as dry & warm as possible. Waking up soaked in a puddle of water in your shelter will definitely set your mood for the morning, even after 1st coffee🤠😎😜🤣😝
I learned the tunneling away from the tarp trick during girl scouts one major storm passage weekend. Everybody else was wet when they awok in the morning, but not I!
With a tarp, i use walking poles and, weird as it sounds, half a tennis ball to put on top of the pole to protect from rips :-)
Not weird at all, I’ve also used half a tennis ball to do this.
@@TAOutdoors Wow. You two may very well be using half of the same tennis ball.
why take a tarp instead of a tent?
It really depends on the area, weather, and type of camping. For light weight camping, in cooler or dryer climates tarps do just fine but have much less weight and bulk. they are perfectly find for "day trips."
Tents come into their own in SERIOUSLY bad weather area's, extreme cold, and/or bug areas.
Area's with heavy bugs, black flies, mosquitoes, being able to seal yourself in completely is better.
in area's with heavy sustained rain... where the ground is almost "swampy" Hammock tents or tents with high bathtub bottoms and serious hydrostatic ratings are best....
in extreme cold where you could face snow loading issues, A steep pitched tarp or sidewall tent comes into play, here the "open bottom" doesn't matter and lack of bug screen isn't an issue, here its about the pitch to shed snow, and strength of the frame.
Tarps are so versatile, I love them. Tents just feel like a chore to setup and pack.
How is this any easier to pack and setup? This is heavier, more difficult to set up, and still doesn't protect me from the elements like even the cheapest tents out there.
Heavier ?😂 it’s a tarp
I have been trying to find a good tarp for a while now, what type do you use/recommend?
Have you got a license for that bushcraft knife?
I see Lidl are flogging a poncho for twelve quid, makes a great waterproof or shelter.
This Tricks Survival only Work in European Forest in Asian Dense Deep Rainforest everything ganna be Nice to meet you Mate😂😂😂
European forest are too Sophisticated
Try Asian forest more Simple but Powerfull😊
Cheeerioo Mate
What's high windspeed to you Europeans? On the American plains it can be far greater than 60k/h and I think tying a tarp to my backpack will only cause me to lose my backpack, considering I've seen tarps of that size drag full grown adults across parking lots.
2:15 my titanium pegs weigh 9 grams. I take about 8 on a hike. That is 72 grams of pegs. I really do not believe that that saw weighs less than 72 grams, so I really do not believe that you are saving weight by not taking a few tent pegs.
highest quality bushcraft content on youtube (out of what I've seen). no bs, just utilitarian info.. appreciate you, brother!
Very cool channel, keep up the work mate! Always nice to see other bushcraft/outdoor freaks with such talent!
I love the tarp tent. Ijust need to get over my aversion to slugs and I'm set.
If I may ask, How do you fix the cordage to the Tarp ? I'm having some problems with it. It always opens itself up.
Never had problems using bowline knots. Figure of eight should also work. 🤔
9:00 i totally see you doing this the whole night during some storm :D ....dude...
Was thinking the same. This will be a very very uncomfortable night. Plus living with the constant fear one of the trees will come down on your head. While these shelters certainly will work well in windy conditions, I can only advice to stay the f out of the woods when a real storm hits.
Consider the following: If one is going to carry a tarp: bring along at least 4 tent stakes. (1 plastic, 3 metal). Plastic one could also be shaved to help make a fire. Metal ones could be utilized to hold a container over a fire, tied to a stick and utilized as a weapon or tool, or even possibly utilized in a trap, pit or otherwise. Multiple use items when one thinks outside the box.
Great video!
Not a fan of the first shelter. In rainy conditions you have to move really far back inside because there is so much dripping from over the entrance. That leaves a lot of the space unusable. And in countries where wild camping with a tent is illegal you can get into serious trouble, because it looks so much like a tent.
"serious" trouble seems like an overstatement... Uninformed morons might TRY to get you in trouble, but at the end of the day it is not a tent no matter what it looks like, so you're legally fine. There should be a very specific legal definition of what is a "tent" in your country/state/province
For example, knife laws in my state go into extremely specific detail about exactly what is considered a "knife" or "deadly weapon" - it's not really a matter of interpretation, it either is legal or isn't, period. How it looks to idiots or the ignorant is irrelevant in US law, thankfully (usually, but lately that has changed a bit)
damn, its nice living in place where camping is a protected right
@@einar8019 like Skandinavia?
@@tragikk03 actually this law is extremely vague in Germany. Bivvy bags have been considered tents by some, while fishers are usually fine as long as their tent has no floor. And there are 16 Federal States, most with their own individual forest laws additional to the nationwide law. It's a mess.
@@PiscatorLager yes
I admire your skills and dedication, a very interesting and pleasing video to watch indeed, thank you
Do you dig a rain trench?
This is what I learned while serving. Granted, this was in Norway, but I can see you use similar techniques that we do, and I wonder if this has a common root. I can vouch for all techniques and tips.
Hmm... You talk about storms... How many km/h? To be honest: with the experience of over 10'000 km hiking in several countries - if it's over 50km/h (what is not even a storm, it's "strong wind") i wouldn't want one of those setups. A closed setup is what want then (have a look at "papahiker awful weather tarp").
And to the recommended tarp: I brought the dd tarp superlight for over 90% the past 3 years and i can say that it only lasts for a 8months trip if you bring a GOOD repair kit and know how to handle it (and the repairing). It's light and does a good job, yes, but it's fragile. Every year i had to buy a new one and i'm tired of that, so i switch to a dcf tarp, they're way more expensive, but incredibly durable (as north scandinavia showed me this year) and lighter.
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As always, another great video. Wish I was there with you Mike, I go camping and watch your videos, very helpful thanks.
Cheers!
”Hey, hon, what are you watching?”
“Oh just a video about tying the knot and solo pegging in the woods”
It always amazes me how many configs can come from 1 piece of material. Good solid wind and rain protection there. Nice work Mike
I have been using the first shelter for a few years now with a DD 3*3. I take a pair of collapsible carbon fibre poles with me. Extremely light and I put the poles into an A Formation inside the tent so that I don't have a pole running down the middle.
Mist the hobo one from the 1900.
Waypoint a serie about hobo use that setup .
And indeed only need a seil like you .
Its a robe between trees and jus like a v .
And 4 corners on the ground
But i think his about 4x4 meters to do so.
Just by listening to you confuses me because your voice reminds me of Jason Statham. Great vid, though.
Molt bon contingut,com sempre,sempre surto amb toldo i m’agrada aquest tipos de vídeo,
wtf is that backpack? it looks like it's made of heavy burlap and it could hardly hold anything. doesn't anybody in these videos care about the weight of things?
I have a DD4x4 tarp. And I can't seem to do a good tarp tent with it. The door is always massive. Please help
I got most of my tarp camping tips when I started following your channel a few years ago. Everyone has proved to be a lasting winner.
To return the favour. Before putting the centre pole inside your tarp tent shape, to prevent it puncturing the tarp, put the tarp bag over the end, or use some leaves or moss instead.
Thanks for many years of happy, successful tarp camping! 👍
That’s great to know! Cheers for commenting and good tip about the dry bag. Hopefully others can see that 👍🏻
Check out Clay Hayes if you're serious about this stuff...tarps are great...up to a point....
Nice shelters but You save weight by not adding a few stakes? That makes zero sense for an emergency shelter.
This is actually kind of laughable. It's better than nothing. But it's still awful
Watching from Texas. great work!
Howdy from Louisiana
why ? with each setup you will be soaking in mud. water on the ground will yield mud under your silly tarp tent. allso water will drain on the tree trunks too. on your cords. from there inside your tarp tents. its anything but usefull in a storm.
And this is why God invented Premier Inns with a Beefeater attached, simples.
Tarps are good and versitile but what about mosquitos etc ? 😅
It's a little bit like origami but with a tarp instead of paper. 😊 Thanks for this fascinating video!
Yeah it sort of is! 😂
Must know tips in our days 💪
Just what I needed to look at again after a windy snowy elk camp at 9000"
I will never be a fan of the one pole shelter two poles of 2/3 height means that the largest item (me) gets the maximum effect of the most spacious part of the tent (the middle
Another great video adventure you are brilliant you put a lot of thought into it by just using simple things I have enjoyed every videos you have done ✔ well done all the best and keep safe
what other channel? you never put the links you are mentioning in the description
All this talk of steaks and pegging reminds me of my last date😂😂😂😂 hahaha
Saw the thumbnail and thought “he’s doing it wrong”
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I like that last method best (Loue type) More room and you can get in deep. If you use two tarps you’ve basically got a house.
Have you ever come across anyone else while you're out there and had to fight to the death?
Go outside of this woodland and do a survival challenge for 2 days
Hay salam kenal kawan dari Indonesia,,,
hi! You could show also how to repair a tarp, I saw you put a couple of holes in yours at 7:14 - 7:15
do you think the 1st and last tarp setups are enough for two people?
Thanks for filming and the explanation Mike! 👍😁
Is it reasonable to attach an insect screen to a tarp to stop mozzies getting in en masse?
For me the ideal tarp is the wing tarp. Though it hasn't a square/ rectangular form, it's ideal for hammock setups as a diamond fly tarp as you can close of the ends 👌🏼
what´s your middle-name? Jeeves?
Dang camp too small ur pant got wet during raining.
I get it, a tarp is very useful in many ways for survival. What is don't understand is why not just carry a
" insta-tent"? Mine will sleep 4 very comfortable and have room for our BugOut bags. It weighs, right at 9 pounds, and has its own bag. It literally takes about 4 minutes to set up, I just toss it where I want it, and it basically sets itself up. If I want to cut weight, I can leave out the stakes and just use branches.
I also carry a
" LifeTent" and two mylar sleeping bags, plus a wool blanket. " It's a proven system, or at least for me
9 pounds = ... 4.1 kgs. My 3 X 3 tarp weighs 600g = 1.3 pounds.
There's your answer. My tarp is 1/7th the weight of your tent. There is also a cost consideration if that's of a concern. Even the most high tech of tarps don't come close to the price of a half decent hiking tent. There are times the extra weight of a tent makes sense, insects & snow coming to mind for me, but often a simple sheet to keep the dew off is all that's needed.
If the worst comes to the worst, you can just lie on part of the tarp & wrap it around you for a little protection. And yes I've done that when I couldn't find myself one night in the bush and it started raining, heavily.
I've been using tent 10yrs, but from the last 2 yrs i like Tarp for camping.
Tarp master race! 🤘
You might stay semi dry. But the lighting would kill you, if it struck anywhere close to you....😂
Camping outside in a thunder storm is generally a rather bad idea, especially in a wooded area. He also said "strong winds". The video title is misleading. I would not trust any of these setups in a real storm. You'd need a strong and properly pegged out tent for such conditions.
I like this series!
Cheers!
It was an interesting idea, thank you
G'day Mike, well covered mate, pardon the pun ; )
I'm with ya; for easy up, yet still very protective, the ol' poughpoint does the business, but yep, still pays to study origami though, lol, so many possibilities for a particular situation and/or personal preference.
Perhaps there's better out there, but hard to beat the DD 3 X 3 for the dough IMO.
Suggestion; as much as I'm into knots; I use carabiners, pre-tied to guyline hanks, because;
1. you can instantly clip them to any tie out point where needed for a particular configuration
2. should you need to pinch one for another application, there it is ....... and replace with a knot, ...... though I do carry a couple extra anyway, .... just so useful/versatile for negligible weight.
Cheers Duke.
P.S. oh yeah; I must say "practice, practice, practice" at home before taking the plunge, especially into a potentially nasty weather scenario, sure there's always gonna be variables, but the basic skills should become pretty much automatic, for at least no-nonsense set ups anyway.
Muito bom, obrigado. Sds
All good stuff.
For how small they are and how little they weigh, you may as well carry alloy pegs rather than faffing about carving stakes when it's p*ssing down.
As GB2 would say,
"The juice ain't worth the squeeze."
Places I love tarp camping: Places without without snakes and mosquitos. Places I love tent camping: Places with snakes and mosquitos (aka all of the US West Coast :( )
The Plow Point is great. It sets up quickly and easily. I experimented with a cheap, 5.5' X 7.5' tarp ($6) during a recent pelting and windy rain storm. It worked perfectly, blocking the wind and keeping me completely dry. The Plow Point creates a surprisingly large interior (a2 x b2 =c2). So, my little tarp created over 8' of overhang and plenty of floor space.
Very nice! Just bought a Uv50 DD tarp for summer. Going to practise with that. Will defo safe up fir a superlicht version
Cheers from the Netherlands
With the tarp tent do you feel it would be viable to use this setup for a 3 day basic camping weekend?
All depends on the weather, if fine summer time then could do it easy,the more rain equals more annoying. Remember it gets loud in tent when raining, I always wear ear plugs
What a nice backpack were can i buy it ?
No wind during your start up.😮
Amazing content - thank you kindly 🙏🏽
What is your average length of guide line ?
good video. You can build a self feeding stick fire . . . make a shallow trench deeper at one end and shallower at the other. Parallel to your bed is nice. place the sticks in the trench so that you have each stick overlapping the previous one by a half, so that you have at least three sticks at any given point. Start the fire at the shallow end. As it burns it will spread down the trench to the deep end. Getting the burn rate right takes some experience, play with the stick sizes to get the burn rate you want. You can also use a berm, and dig the trench in the berm, if the ground is too wet
Thank you, that was helpful! Whenever I go hammock camping, my tarp setup is very unsatisfactory. These tips will help