Man I wanted to see Kang wipe out the variants that exiled him since it seemed they feared him. I wanted to see what he meant by saying he going to “win”. And he knows how it all ends.
Ya but that's like saying a pack of chihuahuas are scared of a of poodle lol none of the Kangs were intimidating and its absolutely for the best they dropped Kang and fired Majors.
@@user-fc2tj8lf2mhow you gonna say the kangs arent scary if we didnt see more of them at all but the post credit scene💀. Kang being unhinged and crazy in QM makes him feel weird and scary to an extent . Sucks we didnt get to see him fleshed out
@@idancewithsaibotim with you. I wanted to see Kang continue. But it's done. Time to move on. Judge what is coming rather than what could have been. Gotta move on.
Take cues from Snyder fans that getting hung up on cancelled plans to an unhinged degree makes you look like a toxic lunatic and DON'T do that. Plans changing always sucks but moving on and giving new plans a chance is infinitely healthier than what Snyder fans did.
Same. I’m not even mad that Doom is gonna be the main villain for Secret Wars, to be fair it was his event in the comics. I just REALLY hope they don’t completely scrap Kang. Maybe he can come back after Secret Wars recasted and get a proper arc this time.
Jonathan Majors cut Kang’s legs off unfortunately… even tho the conviction against him - i believe - was misplaced… pretty sure Kang will return at some point tho
Kirby's children who hv never made a film before @@alexkoronec4326? 100% understand yr POV but do believe that Feige & the Russos are as big a group of comic disciples as you will ever get to honour Kirby's genius and vision... and yes, "Hollywood's version of" but this will be an adaptation of which they ALL unquestionably realise has not been done right in 2 previous incarnations thus far... cos they've been executed by 'Hollywood only' folk vs authentic comic book nerds who operate in Hollywood... Feige's "let's get Doom right" to RDJ says all you need to know
I’m still on the fence about RDJ’s return. But it is nice to see that at least Kevin is course correcting after all the crap. No why can’t Lucasfilm do the same?
What if Doom starts killing anchor beings on purpose to end the multiverse which is why we get a team up of Anchor Beings? What if that’s why he comes to 616, to kill the sacred anchor being?
I hope Doom takes over the TVA and uses its technology to take over the Multiverse and attacks the Spider Society, and all the Avengers come together to stop Doom and his Variants but fail. This leads into Secret Wars
My thought.... What if the sacred timeline is there to ensure that Tony Stark has a heros journey and becomes Iron Man, because otherwise (maybe if he's not adopted by the starks) he becomes Dr Doom. The Fantastic 4 come from that second timeline seen in Loki, hence the vintage looking spaceship
Doom is obviously the new main threat, but I still think Kang will be involved in some way shape or form. I think him returning as the beyonder is the most likely scenario.
I'm happy about RDJ coming back and having him as Doom is a freaky example of how incredible the multiverse is (not to mention that it's comic accurate) but frankly, they have to have Kang The Conquer involved in it somehow. Recast him. It's unfortunate but if whatever they do is good enough it'll work.
I think some of it is true. Especially given the fact that Hugh Jackman just said he’d like to do a movie with Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. Sometimes when actors say stuff like that, it almost immediately happens afterwards.
Doom isnt going to kill kang they still want to use him as a villian at some point or theyll run out of bad guys to kill And the story is cut and paste, doom=kang Kang variants= dooms bots or doom variants
Since Kang has countless variants, the possibility of at least one of them being an anchor being is high. Perhaps the OG Kang/ Nathaniel Richards is in fact an anchor being from his universe. If ever they do decide to take that route, Kang could be the key to Doom starting the path towards battleworld. A bit far-fetched but it is probable.
Is there a rule that an anchor being has to be a male? In the comics they have been male and female with Wanda being the 616 nexus being. Can we also take this as meaning that Wanda will not return? Elizabeth Olsen doesn't need to take crumbs from Feige anymore.
To me it's telling how Wanda was trashed and then tossed aside by Marvel in MoM. I want to see Wanda confront Chthon in a solo movie. If she just gets reduced to a lazy 5 minute role as a plot device in Doomsday/Secret Wars (IMHO that is most likely), or just used as a plot-vehicle for the Young Avengers, then, frankly, Olsen should tell Feige to get lost.
I’ve been saying this for a few years… I’m SO DAMN TIRED of the Multiverse! I cannot wait until it’s over. It rarely works and it gets old so fast. Just end it already. I smiled so much when Deadpool said it’s old and stale already 😂
Good stuff, as usual, Josh! Hey, just had a thought (I'm probably not the first/only one): Do you think MCU might culminate this story with a showdown between now-villain Tony/Victor/Doom and now-hero Loki??? Might be really interesting, take us back to the original Avengers movie, etc. ...
Anchor beings are such a dumb idea. You can still have plenty of fun multiversal cameos in secret wars without such a busted “chosen one” plot contrivance.
I thought anchor beings were going to be a way to adapt how Molecule Man is used as a bomb by the Beyonders in Time Runs Out, but then Paradox said the anchor being’s death starts decline and culminating in eventual death, so… shoot, now I don’t know.
@@davidjones8043 Understanding something and disliking something are two different things. I “get it” I just think it’s dumb, and extra stupid when taking it out of the context of a Deadpool movie where everything is meta. The filmmakers need to do extra work to restore suspension of disbelief and give the stories stakes because they need to wade through the goofy BS ideas introduced in movies like Deadpool or Love & Thunder.
Right before. Yellowjacket did an insane reconnaissance mission through the Multiverse and saw the Beyonders wiping out the Celestials before the final incursion.
I was a massive Marvel fan before Endgame. And I do hope they can figure something out to capture people again. But this is so complicated and far away. The better plan probably would have been to fridge everything and release Dr Doom next year September. Get a wriggle on and focus your entire efforts on that. And maybe adapt your upcoming flops to support it, but maybe just leave them in the fridge. It is so far away until Avengers Doomsday. Its a hard sell when we currently don't like what you're doing, and you haven't addressed that, you've just said it will be good again in 3 years / 7 projects' time...
im perfectly fine with steamrolling right past kang and moving on with a new big bad. casting RDJ as doom seems insane but i'm only really in this game for X-men so even if it fails im unbothered. just steamroll past whatever crap they need to in order for us to get a proper x-men movie.
What if they use Doom to go back and retcon everything from Quantumania, 10 rings, Loki etc., Showing Doom coming behind Kang, taking all of his technology and destroying him
So how about in a end battle with doom hes kicked everyones ass and then a portal or something opens up and then iron man comes out to save the day played by rdj after seeing the tom cruise iron man get slapped about by doom
Anchor Beings make NO sense Let’s take Tom Holland’s Peter Parker. How old is he now? 18? So if he’s the Anchor Being for the 616, and the 616 universe can ONLY exist with him in it….what was there before he was born? Did the 616 magically appear when Peter Parker was as born? And then the 616 starts to die after Peter dies in like 40-80 years? So a universe comes into magical place existence somehow and hence an Anchor Being is born, and as soon as that Anchor dies in like 40 to maybe a couple hundred years, the Universe dies too? None of this makes any sense. None. It’s stupid
As a casual who doesn’t read comics or care about the comics and just watches the mcu this still just feels like a desperate attempt to get the fans excited again by bringing RDJ back when he should’ve came back as iron man. You wouldn’t have to do all this theory explanation if they just got a different actor to play doctor doom because all casual fans still view RDJ as iron man still so just confusing us and if you have to do all of this just to explain it then it’s probably not gonna land well for the normal fans
I hate that they need to try and pull cards like this. So many good actors they could use. Since when do von doom and stark variants look the same? Make it make fucking sense
I think that marvel is coming off as a little desperate bringing Downey back to be doom. They are hanging it all on the only thing they have that can still make people excited about any Disney owned product. Lol
I’m so glad that Kang isn’t forming Battleworld because that’s just plain stupid. Don’t try to steal Doom’s show. I get wanting Kang’s (*ahem* virtual) story to reach a conclusion, but not where he usurps Doom’s place.
The anchor being needs to be somebody that can live forever It can't be some being that's only going to live to be 100 years if that just for the world to supposedly only last 2000 years after the fact just doesn't make sense
That could also be a thing too yeah didn't think about that. But yeah I mean there was life before humans and most likely life after human beings . They should have the molecule man as an anchor being then lol
My dude! I know this has nothing to do with your marvel video and I apologize, but I would REALLY REALLY REALLY Love to hear you talk about Alien Romulus
That makes absolutely no sense because it's not just a thing in one movie. every universe has a being. Those are not made up tweets. I'm sorry. Plus Nobody said they were made up. You should look at part 2 scrapped storyline. Just being honest.
In all honesty.... Marvel has to be happy how this worked out, because Kang was a lame villain in the movies and Loki. Doom is the best enemy in the MCU and they are able to bring him in with RDJ playing him.
Man I wanted to see Kang wipe out the variants that exiled him since it seemed they feared him. I wanted to see what he meant by saying he going to “win”. And he knows how it all ends.
Ya but that's like saying a pack of chihuahuas are scared of a of poodle lol none of the Kangs were intimidating and its absolutely for the best they dropped Kang and fired Majors.
@@user-fc2tj8lf2mhow you gonna say the kangs arent scary if we didnt see more of them at all but the post credit scene💀. Kang being unhinged and crazy in QM makes him feel weird and scary to an extent . Sucks we didnt get to see him fleshed out
@@idancewithsaibotim with you. I wanted to see Kang continue. But it's done. Time to move on. Judge what is coming rather than what could have been. Gotta move on.
Take cues from Snyder fans that getting hung up on cancelled plans to an unhinged degree makes you look like a toxic lunatic and DON'T do that.
Plans changing always sucks but moving on and giving new plans a chance is infinitely healthier than what Snyder fans did.
Same. I’m not even mad that Doom is gonna be the main villain for Secret Wars, to be fair it was his event in the comics. I just REALLY hope they don’t completely scrap Kang. Maybe he can come back after Secret Wars recasted and get a proper arc this time.
I always wanted Doom, but not at the expense of cutting Kang’s legs off. Doom deserves a slow burn and proper build.
@@afnanbogey 👍
Jonathan Majors cut Kang’s legs off unfortunately… even tho the conviction against him - i believe - was misplaced…
pretty sure Kang will return at some point tho
There will be no proper balance or bulid. Because no one has spoken to kirby's children. You'll get Hollywood's version
Kirby's children who hv never made a film before @@alexkoronec4326?
100% understand yr POV but do believe that Feige & the Russos are as big a group of comic disciples as you will ever get to honour Kirby's genius and vision... and yes, "Hollywood's version of" but this will be an adaptation of which they ALL unquestionably realise has not been done right in 2 previous incarnations thus far... cos they've been executed by 'Hollywood only' folk vs authentic comic book nerds who operate in Hollywood...
Feige's "let's get Doom right" to RDJ says all you need to know
i hope we see Doom kill a thanos variant at some point
I think Iron Man is a variant of Dr Doom that can switched him at birth. Meaning he already killed Thanos
We will they introduced king thanos he definitely is gonna get smoked in the beginning of one of the two movies
A suit of armor around the multiverse
I’m still on the fence about RDJ’s return. But it is nice to see that at least Kevin is course correcting after all the crap. No why can’t Lucasfilm do the same?
You call a desperate cash grab casting "course correcting"?
I like the star wars series minus a couple of them. The latest movies weren't good though
@@mkdub9600 Fully agreed
No shit, right? Like get it tf together Kathleen & co.
@@finer206 What’s this “win” she’s waiting for? Kathy, leave please.
😊😊😊😊 Kevin should require Jonathan Majors to be back and play Avengers Kang Dynasties
Nay he really shouldn't. Majors was a good actor but Kang.is trash. Has 0 decent storylines and Doom will forever trump Kang
@@darraghmcconnstfu nobody cares about your incorrect opinions
@@mutungiedmund2355 👍
Kang is a trash character I’m glad he is not going to be the main focus
What if Doom starts killing anchor beings on purpose to end the multiverse which is why we get a team up of Anchor Beings? What if that’s why he comes to 616, to kill the sacred anchor being?
Aaand it's Spider-Man, meaning you have someone looking like Tony Stark, trying to kill Tom Holland.
I hope Doom takes over the TVA and uses its technology to take over the Multiverse and attacks the Spider Society, and all the Avengers come together to stop Doom and his Variants but fail. This leads into Secret Wars
My thought.... What if the sacred timeline is there to ensure that Tony Stark has a heros journey and becomes Iron Man, because otherwise (maybe if he's not adopted by the starks) he becomes Dr Doom. The Fantastic 4 come from that second timeline seen in Loki, hence the vintage looking spaceship
Doom is obviously the new main threat, but I still think Kang will be involved in some way shape or form. I think him returning as the beyonder is the most likely scenario.
It’s gotta be doom independent of iron man.
I think doom is gonna show up and nerf kang
Dooomvengers!!! 😤🔥🔥🔥
Doom is going to kill the Council of Kangs in the first scene to show his threat level.
Dr Doom will look good depending if there's gonna be epic battles between certain marvel characters.
I see a shield of armor around the world 🧐🤔
So what happens when an anchor being dies of old age, the entire universe collapses?
They have to come up with something that lets them say anchor beings are bs and not a thing.
THIS THING OF OURS 🤌
Quick thought, doom figures out the externals are robots and remakes them into doom bots with the power cosmic
I'm happy about RDJ coming back and having him as Doom is a freaky example of how incredible the multiverse is (not to mention that it's comic accurate) but frankly, they have to have Kang The Conquer involved in it somehow. Recast him. It's unfortunate but if whatever they do is good enough it'll work.
great video josh!!
They still have to do something with kang
I think some of it is true. Especially given the fact that Hugh Jackman just said he’d like to do a movie with Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. Sometimes when actors say stuff like that, it almost immediately happens afterwards.
Doom isnt going to kill kang they still want to use him as a villian at some point or theyll run out of bad guys to kill
And the story is cut and paste, doom=kang
Kang variants= dooms bots or doom variants
I can see Kang becomes the new Molecule Man in the comics that is a big part of secret wars.
Please bring back Jonathan Majors if not than you might as well Make Chris Evans Galactus, and Chris Hemsworth Franklin Richards
Bro is a criminal in real life 💀 wdym bring back Jonathan
You serious? RDJ was but got the chance to redeem himself, guess nobody else gets that opportunity.
Since Kang has countless variants, the possibility of at least one of them being an anchor being is high. Perhaps the OG Kang/ Nathaniel Richards is in fact an anchor being from his universe. If ever they do decide to take that route, Kang could be the key to Doom starting the path towards battleworld. A bit far-fetched but it is probable.
I love that meme at the beginning 🤣
Is there a rule that an anchor being has to be a male? In the comics they have been male and female with Wanda being the 616 nexus being. Can we also take this as meaning that Wanda will not return? Elizabeth Olsen doesn't need to take crumbs from Feige anymore.
To me it's telling how Wanda was trashed and then tossed aside by Marvel in MoM.
I want to see Wanda confront Chthon in a solo movie. If she just gets reduced to a lazy 5 minute role as a plot device in Doomsday/Secret Wars (IMHO that is most likely), or just used as a plot-vehicle for the Young Avengers, then, frankly, Olsen should tell Feige to get lost.
Josh, these videos are getting Mike Zeroh levels of milking nothing
😂😂😂so true
Robert Doomy Jr is here!!!!!!!
What about that old man Tony
Should check out exiled scooper’s kang dynasty breakdown
Maybe Doom's from the universe that never had the Sony Deal with Marvel Studios so never had a Spider-Man
I’ve been saying this for a few years… I’m SO DAMN TIRED of the Multiverse! I cannot wait until it’s over. It rarely works and it gets old so fast. Just end it already. I smiled so much when Deadpool said it’s old and stale already 😂
Spider-Man should absolutely be the Anchor Being of every universe he exists in.
it's Stan Lee... meta wise Marvel went to shitter when he died...
Imo Jonathan Majors deserves a second chance!
Reminder that MyTimeToShin got 13/14 or something close to that of Deadpool and Wolverine “scoops” wrong
brooo you just got me thinking that the open movie slot before Doomsday will be Doc. Strange 3
Good stuff, as usual, Josh! Hey, just had a thought (I'm probably not the first/only one): Do you think MCU might culminate this story with a showdown between now-villain Tony/Victor/Doom and now-hero Loki??? Might be really interesting, take us back to the original Avengers movie, etc. ...
But how are they going build up Doom??? That’s what’s key
So..... maybe Secret Wars Part 2... will actually be Avengers Eternity Wars.
@3:43 Holy smokes man that'd totally bring in another billion dollars if done correctly. O_O
Anchor beings are such a dumb idea. You can still have plenty of fun multiversal cameos in secret wars without such a busted “chosen one” plot contrivance.
I thought anchor beings were going to be a way to adapt how Molecule Man is used as a bomb by the Beyonders in Time Runs Out, but then Paradox said the anchor being’s death starts decline and culminating in eventual death, so… shoot, now I don’t know.
Anchor beings is a meta Deadpool joke 😂 guess some people don’t get it
@@davidjones8043 Understanding something and disliking something are two different things. I “get it” I just think it’s dumb, and extra stupid when taking it out of the context of a Deadpool movie where everything is meta. The filmmakers need to do extra work to restore suspension of disbelief and give the stories stakes because they need to wade through the goofy BS ideas introduced in movies like Deadpool or Love & Thunder.
I have a question did celestials and eternals play any role in secret wars?
Right before. Yellowjacket did an insane reconnaissance mission through the Multiverse and saw the Beyonders wiping out the Celestials before the final incursion.
Thats why the russi Bros said,"multi-universe" !!!! Because of what dooms plan is!!!!!
I was a massive Marvel fan before Endgame. And I do hope they can figure something out to capture people again.
But this is so complicated and far away.
The better plan probably would have been to fridge everything and release Dr Doom next year September. Get a wriggle on and focus your entire efforts on that. And maybe adapt your upcoming flops to support it, but maybe just leave them in the fridge.
It is so far away until Avengers Doomsday. Its a hard sell when we currently don't like what you're doing, and you haven't addressed that, you've just said it will be good again in 3 years / 7 projects' time...
brand new kang in the mcu today now in 2025 yes are no 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
im perfectly fine with steamrolling right past kang and moving on with a new big bad. casting RDJ as doom seems insane but i'm only really in this game for X-men so even if it fails im unbothered. just steamroll past whatever crap they need to in order for us to get a proper x-men movie.
I just hope we get the real Dr. Doom at some point.
I hate this new Secret wars storyline.
Besides no ordinary audience will understand this crap.
Did the person reporting anchor beings mention anchor beings before Deadpool and Wolverine???
What if they use Doom to go back and retcon everything from Quantumania, 10 rings, Loki etc., Showing Doom coming behind Kang, taking all of his technology and destroying him
only Tom Holland and Anthony Mackie are powerful enough to defeat Kang?...
So how about in a end battle with doom hes kicked everyones ass and then a portal or something opens up and then iron man comes out to save the day played by rdj after seeing the tom cruise iron man get slapped about by doom
Anchor Beings make NO sense
Let’s take Tom Holland’s Peter Parker. How old is he now? 18?
So if he’s the Anchor Being for the 616, and the 616 universe can ONLY exist with him in it….what was there before he was born?
Did the 616 magically appear when Peter Parker was as born?
And then the 616 starts to die after Peter dies in like 40-80 years?
So a universe comes into magical place existence somehow and hence an Anchor Being is born, and as soon as that Anchor dies in like 40 to maybe a couple hundred years, the Universe dies too?
None of this makes any sense. None. It’s stupid
As a casual who doesn’t read comics or care about the comics and just watches the mcu this still just feels like a desperate attempt to get the fans excited again by bringing RDJ back when he should’ve came back as iron man. You wouldn’t have to do all this theory explanation if they just got a different actor to play doctor doom because all casual fans still view RDJ as iron man still so just confusing us and if you have to do all of this just to explain it then it’s probably not gonna land well for the normal fans
Wasn't he remains still alive at the end season 2
What if the anchor beings are molecule man recplacements and doom (instead of kang) is going to kill them all = destroying their time lines
Could also kill Peter if he’s the anchor being which Peter would think it’s a friend then we can see him come back with the black suit in secret wars
I hate that they need to try and pull cards like this. So many good actors they could use. Since when do von doom and stark variants look the same? Make it make fucking sense
Why do the human torch and cap America look the same? Or any of the other characters that have played two roles?
Why does reed richards look like Pedro pascal and John Krasinski?
I mean it sounds good to me tbh
The fantastic four is from our universe they got stuck in the new universe and just adjusted and now it times to come back .
Then they'd atleast be somewhat known in the 616.
Hey josh have you seen the new Tony Stark Doom coming to fortnite? Very insteresting and cool looking
Doom XFX
I never been so early!
I think that marvel is coming off as a little desperate bringing Downey back to be doom. They are hanging it all on the only thing they have that can still make people excited about any Disney owned product. Lol
i don’t believe marvel would essentially redo no way home with the same three spidermen. bs “leak”
🤘🏿🤘🏿
Doc strange 3 has me interested, is that slated before Doomsday? It cant be...
I had the exact same idea
Kang will return!
I’m so glad that Kang isn’t forming Battleworld because that’s just plain stupid. Don’t try to steal Doom’s show.
I get wanting Kang’s (*ahem* virtual) story to reach a conclusion, but not where he usurps Doom’s place.
so if the anchor being is just some guy and he dies from old age the whole reality dies? Kinda dumb
Fiege's face on the meme in the begging 😂
Well. Another lost Marvel project.
The anchor being needs to be somebody that can live forever It can't be some being that's only going to live to be 100 years if that just for the world to supposedly only last 2000 years after the fact just doesn't make sense
Who ever said it doesn’t shift periodically? Obviously nobody is older than the universe itself so…
That could also be a thing too yeah didn't think about that. But yeah I mean there was life before humans and most likely life after human beings . They should have the molecule man as an anchor being then lol
@@hta3cithe achir being concept is flawed and really needs to be abandoned
My dude! I know this has nothing to do with your marvel video and I apologize, but I would REALLY REALLY REALLY Love to hear you talk about Alien Romulus
I am not a fan of the MCU Spider-Man and I hope he is not an anchor being for the MCU world.
those tweets are just made up bro .."anchor being" was a term made up for Deadpool and wolverine.
That makes absolutely no sense because it's not just a thing in one movie. every universe has a being. Those are not made up tweets. I'm sorry. Plus Nobody said they were made up. You should look at part 2 scrapped storyline. Just being honest.
Super lame everyone wanted Iron Man back in some way shape or form and they do this crap oh and we all miss you over at Star Wars Theory Big Time
Not sure why anyone still believes MTTSH 🗑️
Den of nerds shows why you should stay off of X
Everyone should absolutely abandon that platform. Its nothing but clowns.
@@fydiousmckormick triggered alert
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Doom will be 100 times better than Kang.
I like that explanation of why time travel is different in Ms. Marvel.
Waaa
In all honesty.... Marvel has to be happy how this worked out, because Kang was a lame villain in the movies and Loki. Doom is the best enemy in the MCU and they are able to bring him in with RDJ playing him.
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