What does "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" mean?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Director of Palestine Solidarity Campaign, Ben Jamal, explains what the chant means - and what it doesn't mean.
Interview on LBC radio on 17th October 2023.
The meaning has "changed" after this terrorist attack and response. Most Palestinians would openly tell anyone who asked, the Jews were never included, but banished or executed.
Dan, You are both wrong and spreading misinformation. Jesus was a Palestinian Jew. There are Palestinian Christians and Jews who are definitely welcome.
The question, which has been resolved, was whether European settlers were welcome. Palestinians debated and concluded, "Yes", and Hamas changed their charter.
But for some reason Zionists lie about the history and never quote the current Hamas charter.
The is about settler colonial apartheid, not religion.
Please stop spreading Zionist propaganda,
In Germany, this saying "From the River..." is banned by law because it is understood as a call for genocide.
Excellent explanation. God bless.
The Roman's liked to dominate with their names. The Roman's had idol gods. They named Palestine after Pales who who was their deity or guardian of goat and sheep herders.. So the term Palestine is really totally Roman. Why call oneself a Roman subject?
Because they needed to invent an ethnicity in 1967 to appeal to the global political left so they could play into victimhood ideology politics. In 1966 there was not one Arab in Israel who identified as a "Palestinian" because they didn't invent the ethnicity until then. Before such date, they were all just "Arabs".
A similar argument could be made about Britain.
Not from pales, but from the philistines, the greek/aegean pirates.
@@Dinosaur315 No that is not true. The Roman's had no interest in the philistines.
Amazing explanation
It says Palestine will be free not Palestinians will be free. Whatever its history is, the slogan is the main motto of Hamas which can even be found in their Covenant. Using this slogan simply shows a support towards Hamas and genocide of Jews.
Give it a rest.
South Africa is one country. Israel & Palestine are two different countries
Which is why he didn't made a clear statement in regard to a one state or two-state solution. But you have to ask yourself - why is it two countries? It was never the wish of the Palestinians but a result of a supremacist Jewish ideology.
"The Right of the Jewish People to the Land of Israel (Eretz Israel)
a. The right of the Jewish people to the land of Israel is eternal and indisputable and is linked with the right to security and peace; therefore, Judea and Samaria will not be handed to any foreign administration; between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty." So why all the fuss when it's shouted by supporters of the Palestinian cause likud party charter 1977 🤷🏾♂
Religious texts are not a legally binding document. So park that.
The way the Zionism jews believe is their god told them he would give them all of the land of Canaan. read Gen 12: This also is the way the so call evangelical Christians believe WHO BACK THE ZIONISM. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
The boundaries of the Promised Land were from the River of Egypt (the Nile) to the Euphrates (Exodus 23:31). By the time Israel was ready to take the land, hundreds of years after Abraham, it was inhabited by pagan nations: Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites (Exodus 33:2). When it was time for the Israelites to inherit the Promised Land, God raised up Moses to bring His people out of slavery in Egypt and used Joshua to lead a military conquest of Canaan. The Promised Land includes modern-day Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, and Jordan, as well as parts of Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iraq.
Dale again showing his disinterest in the Palestinian context by hurrying Ben Jamal past the inconvenient facts of history. However Ben did get to finish the important distinction between 1 state, 2 state and the current system, where one group of people have defacto dominance over another. You can call that what you like, but its not fair or free.
A perfect explanation from Ben Jamal… Although I thought that Dale’s interruption was crass at least LBC should take some credit for this interview about this vital issue.
Precisely! The very fact that each and every show host instantly feels the need to side with Israel (i.e. the oppressor) and play the devil's advocate is in itself telling in many, many ways.
What is the reason you close off the live stream and disabled the comments? Does not seem like a good idea tbh.
Nothing is wrong with this statement. There are Palestinians by the river and Palestinians by the sea, and all deserve to be free from the Israeli oppression. It doesn’t have to come at the cost of anyone’s life. Simply put, whoever has colonized the region in the last decade or so can gather their belongings and leave peacefully. Nobody needs to get hurt.
Most of the Jews in Israel are actually Mizrahim who used to live in Arab Muslim states before they were expelled. Do you expect them to move back now? How long do you think they would survive if they returned to the Muslim countries across the Middle East where you can count the number of remaining Jews on one hand?
Even if many Mizrahi Jews were forced to leave Arab countries, that doesn't mean Palestinians should bear the burden of recent settlements in their land.@@lashlarue7924
@@lashlarue7924Read Avi Shlaim - an actual Arab Jewish ("Mizrahi") historian
"Free of jews" is the context to the statement
You can't Free Palestine itself from Palestine to Israel. Only Palestine, this is the actual call for genocide
Muslims refer to the descent from Abraham and the ancient prophets and at the same time act as if the settlement of the Jews in Israel was not also a large part of this religious root to which the Muslims themselves refer...it couldn't be more illogical !
If the Muslims around Israel do not find a compromise with the Jews, they will become more and more entangled in their own misfortune...
Well articulated
... and wrong.
Exactly.
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