I found Charles Oliver Winkelvoss... born 29 September 1906 passed 9 February 1972... newspaper article states he was a mortician... but nothing about being a veteran... might not be him.. but he was from Pennsylvania.
Interesting. He would obviously have been forty years old in 1946 which must have been at the upper end of the draft age range if he was in the pool at all. Of course, he could have volunteered. I wonder if he was a mortician in the army, in a graves registration unit?
He served from July 25th, 1943 to Nov 26th, 1945. He was overseas from Feb 28th, 1944 to Nov 22nd, 1945. He served with the 428th Fighter Squadron and then returned home with Headquarters Battery, 568th Anti Aircraft Artillery (Automatic Weapons) Battalion. His MOS at the time of return was 144 Painter, General (Maintenance).
I had a friend who's father was in the air corps. He said when he was boarding the ship to go home they were told to get rid of all the Nazi weapons that weren't authorized to go back and he said he dropped an MP 40 into the water next to the ship. He said: "we were all doing it, just dropping everything into the sea".
I too have heard this many, many times. It was because the pencil pushers did not want to be bothered with the time consuming paperwork Sort of like Biden telling you that you cannot own a machinegun despite the fact that you can! The only capture paper work that I came across was for a Japanese MG. It was brought back by a USMC Captain. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of these papers were filled out for officers only.
From what I understand, not every party member could purchase a PPK. A party member had to hold a certain rank to be eligible. RZMs also were sold to the SS, SA and HJ. In Walther ads, the PPK RZM was called the service pistol of the party.
Looking at the capture paperwork, there was no such unit as the 428th Regiment (which would imply Infantry based in the Captain's branch). There was a 428th Field Artillery Group but it was deactivated in 1945 in Italy. I think paperwork may be elaborate fake.
Hi Tom, seems this guy was in 428th Fighter Group which was a P-38 Lightning outfit. Still, records indicate they were inactivated in 1945 and sent home in the Fall. Still looking for a 1946 Germany based 428th… no luck yet.
It is not uncommon to hear how Hitler's Nazis confiscated all the guns from the people. True, if you were a foreigner or not a good little Nazis. The Nazis encouraged firearm ownership within Germany because they desired a strong armed populace familiar with arms. The infamous Nurnberg Laws first outlawed Jews from owning gun factories. The following year, Jews could no longer own a firearm. Non-Germans in occupied areas were required to relinquish their arms and even radios.
Good observation. I missed that. It could be one of the earliest 60 degrees that I have ever recorded,.... OR I need to check the inside of the slide to make sure it matches. I will check it but I assume it is just one of the earliest known 60 degress.
Capture paper after war. Quite True. If any help . Date in that document printed. Came to effect.. May. 29.1945 when as formal act , and borrowed / stolen etc property has to be Registered . Victory Day Europe 9.5 may 9th. So 3 week ” Amnesty ” had been going on.😂 . Stolen from Germans then again Uncle Sam’s arm’s😊pile’s
WOW, really!? This man is very uneducated or has a death wish in the very irresponsible way he dangerously handles firearms, and I should know, as a range officer and firearms instructor, I see idiots like this all the time. 4-basic rules a firearm ownership: 1. Treat every firearm as if it is loaded. 2. Always point the muzzle in a safe direction. 3. Be certain of your target and what's beyond it. 4. Keep your finger outside the trigger guard until ready to shoot.
I found Charles Oliver Winkelvoss... born 29 September 1906
passed 9 February 1972...
newspaper article states he was a mortician... but nothing about being a veteran... might not be him.. but he was from Pennsylvania.
He was a veteran. His grave is decorated with a flag.
Interesting. He would obviously have been forty years old in 1946 which must have been at the upper end of the draft age range if he was in the pool at all. Of course, he could have volunteered. I wonder if he was a mortician in the army, in a graves registration unit?
I have heard that many times as well
He served from July 25th, 1943 to Nov 26th, 1945. He was overseas from Feb 28th, 1944 to Nov 22nd, 1945. He served with the 428th Fighter Squadron and then returned home with Headquarters Battery, 568th Anti Aircraft Artillery (Automatic Weapons) Battalion. His MOS at the time of return was 144 Painter, General (Maintenance).
That has to be him. I found that find a grave entry too;.
I had a friend who's father was in the air corps. He said when he was boarding the ship to go home they were told to get rid of all the Nazi weapons that weren't authorized to go back and he said he dropped an MP 40 into the water next to the ship. He said: "we were all doing it, just dropping everything into the sea".
I too have heard this many, many times. It was because the pencil pushers did not want to be bothered with the time consuming paperwork Sort of like Biden telling you that you cannot own a machinegun despite the fact that you can! The only capture paper work that I came across was for a Japanese MG. It was brought back by a USMC Captain. I'd be willing to bet the vast majority of these papers were filled out for officers only.
so sad
I am CRYING over this loss of the MP40
From what I understand, not every party member could purchase a PPK. A party member had to hold a certain rank to be eligible. RZMs also were sold to the SS, SA and HJ.
In Walther ads, the PPK RZM was called the service pistol of the party.
Cant disagree. Not a lot of document to prove either way. But thanks
@@thomaswhiteman4261 got my info from Joe Wotka who’s the authority on the PL and RZM PPKs.
Very interesting! Thank you
Awesome video I really enjoy all of them
Very interesting and informative Definitely 😮
Man! Those pictures at the end with piles of K98 rifles.
I also have an RZM PPK serial number is less than 200 from the one in the video. I wish I could afford a holster.
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Great video
😯😮 ... what a one of a kind collection fire arm in MINT conditions.
Very Interesting story.
Great stuff
Being forced to join the Nazi party to teach is like being forced to join today's US teachers' unions to teach even if you do not agree with them.
Totally agree.
Some great history 👍
When he joined the NSDAP, he was still a student.
I think you did really well your German.
So cool
The full story needs unearthing. So many questions, the answers to which I want to know. 😊
The 33XXXxXx serial number on the vets service number means he was drafted (perhaps) in NE Pennsylvania. Or nearby
well done tom gd stuff
Looking at the capture paperwork, there was no such unit as the 428th Regiment (which would imply Infantry based in the Captain's branch). There was a 428th Field Artillery Group but it was deactivated in 1945 in Italy. I think paperwork may be elaborate fake.
Veteran's burial cards says 428th Fighter Squadron
Very well could be an AAF unit, I'm not familiar with many of those.@@frankjenkins3871
We found him in the air corp. Papers are real
Hi Tom, seems this guy was in 428th Fighter Group which was a P-38 Lightning outfit. Still, records indicate they were inactivated in 1945 and sent home in the Fall. Still looking for a 1946 Germany based 428th… no luck yet.
Indeed, a member of my family was a P-38 pilot in the 428th. It is in the book by the founder of WWII re-enacting, A BRIDGE TO TIME.
Check in the US Census data or voter registration in 1960 and 1970 for the Philadelphia area. You maybe able to get more information.
Rosetta stone languages.
Wait my fellow Americans all say the evil bad man took away all the guns?
It is not uncommon to hear how Hitler's Nazis confiscated all the guns from the people. True, if you were a foreigner or not a good little Nazis. The Nazis encouraged firearm ownership within Germany because they desired a strong armed populace familiar with arms. The infamous Nurnberg Laws first outlawed Jews from owning gun factories. The following year, Jews could no longer own a firearm. Non-Germans in occupied areas were required to relinquish their arms and even radios.
You have to wonder if the German school teacher survive the war?
Legacy Collectibles. Thanks for helping me. Your videos are good. Byebye.
What happened to German Dr.???
He was placed against the wall and shot!
G.1.s believed that All German doctors are evil..like Dr.Mengele! 😅
Shouldn’t it have a 90 degree safety?
Good observation. I missed that. It could be one of the earliest 60 degrees that I have ever recorded,.... OR I need to check the inside of the slide to make sure it matches. I will check it but I assume it is just one of the earliest known 60 degress.
so he was not a doctor, like El Presidente Brandon's wife is not a doctor.
Capture paper after war. Quite True. If any help . Date in that document printed. Came to effect.. May. 29.1945 when as formal act , and borrowed / stolen etc property has to be Registered . Victory Day Europe 9.5 may 9th. So 3 week ” Amnesty ” had been going on.😂 . Stolen from Germans then again Uncle Sam’s arm’s😊pile’s
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WOW, really!?
This man is very uneducated or has a death wish in the very irresponsible way he dangerously handles firearms, and I should know, as a range officer and firearms instructor, I see idiots like this all the time.
4-basic rules a firearm ownership:
1. Treat every firearm as if it is loaded.
2. Always point the muzzle in a safe direction.
3. Be certain of your target and what's beyond it.
4. Keep your finger outside the trigger guard until ready to shoot.
All Wars are Fake and He Knows..
I dont know what that means
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