During WWII, most 1917 revolvers still in service were issued to MPs or otherwise kept out of the front lines. The S&W Victory .38 was more numerous and saw a lot more front line service, being standard issue to sailors and aviators.
@@brittakriep2938 I've noticed this, central Europe and germany especially have always seemed to avoid revolvers. Much more an american and British thing. I still love them for their reliability and solidity though, great for self defence.
@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 : I am german, but i don't understand your comment. What has a Revolver cylinder ( in german Trommel/ drum) to do with vehicle wheels?
I love watching old WW2 (& to a lesser extent Korea, Vietnam) footage on UA-cam and elsewhere. I pay particular attention to the small arms the various combatants are using. This type of content is really informative. You have an enviable collection. Thanks for sharing a part of it.
Hi. Maybe you can awnser me some questions there. Those would be... So you know wich Type of soldiers actually die get Side arms. Faction wise. Cause i didnt found clear information on If Most ordinary soldiers got a Pistol to their rifl. Thats Something i would be interested in.
My favorite service handgun of World War Two is the Browning Hi Power. It's 13 round magazine of 9mm simplicity reliability and ease to field strip makes it a very popular choice even today. Odd historical aspect is the Hi Power was the only handgun issued in large numbers by both the Axis and Allied countries. The gun was adopted by the Belgium army in the early 1930s and when the Germans invaded Belgium in 1940 factory workers at FN sent all the paperwork and parts to Britain who then had Canada make Hi Powers for use with the British commonwealth forces and also the Chinese military who were fighting against the Japanese. The Germans were very impressed with the Hi Power and because it was chambered in 9mm Luger the Germans kept the FN factory in production making Hi Powers for the Wehrmacht.
I guess Communism is okay because you can show the Soviet Union flag. Creepy when you think about it because the Soviet Union killed way more innocent people than Nazi Germany did.
That Beretta is cute as hell, its that nice mix of old, crude military look but it get some more modern style and feel that started to show up in that period.
My Great Grandfather served as a Civil Defense Air Warden. He was issued a Mod 1917 during the War. We still have his Helmet, which was a variation of the old Brodie helmet. Wish we had the gun, but it went to another member of the family.
I personally think the P-38 was the best combat pistol in WW2. People always think Luger and 1911 when they think about WW2. I believe the P-38 was well ahead of those two, just IMO.
P 38 was first military semi automatic pistol with Double Action , FN ,High Power' was first military semi automatic pistol with 13 rounds. So both pistols had been in some aspect the first one.
Very informative, thanks. I had been a collector of WW2 handguns for many years. The P-38 has to be the most prolific sidearm produced mainly because its features have been carried over for the production of so many modern day offerings. A pure trend setter.
I find it funny that during the trials when the us adopted the Colt 1911 they wanted to adopt the Luger PO8 because it was a popular civilian pistol In the vary late 1890s early 1900s but they chosen the 1911 because it was less complicated made in America and not the German empire.
Another German one that also saw some service was the Browning Hi-Power made under licence by FN. When Germany invaded Belgium, they took over the FN factory. German soldiers did get issued Hi-Powers, and in my opinion, was the best pistol of the Second World War.
Decades ago I had a war returned Walter P-38 and it’s the only gun I fired a lot that I developed a flinch. It would eject its brass in indiscriminate directions including straight back hitting my glasses. I also had the officer that brought back the P-38, his issued 1911. It would put its ejected ball cases into a 4 foot circle about 8 feet away.
The American 1911 & The Russian Tokarev 7.62 were ahead of there time… im sure some other pistols were more durable & reliable but those 2 look the most similar to today’s amazing pistols!🇺🇸
The middle six for me. Excluding the type 94. Just so awesome and revolutionary respectably in different pistol concepts. Fun fact Nambu Type 14 was the influence for the Ruger pistol. Ruger saw that the Nambu was an awesome design but Nambu was shafted in its manufacturing. Nambu generally had his weapons exceeding every standard for any country at the time. Except the pistols I feel like the Japanese leaders didn’t care about sidearms enough. In their defense they are kinda right. But Colt Nambu Luger and p38 are Just art in steel form 😌😌
The P-38 is so iconic in it's lines. Picture it without the long barrel and what do you see. Berretta liked it and browning had similar lines but who influenced who. Maybe just played off of one another. I like the P-38 myself, maybe with the Browning power.
There were experimental soviet pistols before and during the war. They had a double stack 7.62х25 magazines. For example a 1942 Tokarev with 12-15 round magazine.
The Polish Semi-automatic pistol wz. 35 Vis 9×19 mm caliber was one of the best pistols of WW2! Its characteristic feature was a triangular grip shape, wider at the bottom, offering good ergonomics and firm grip. The tests proved that the Polish handgun was very accurate and stable. Due to its size and mass, most stresses are absorbed and not passed on the shooter, while at the same time remaining reliable after firing more than 6,000 rounds. The Vis was generally regarded as one of the best military pistols of that period. The Germans used the armaments factories in the occupied countries to produce weapons and also produced the wz. 35 Vis. The Germans had the lists of workers. Those who refused to work were killed. So for the German army, the wz. 35 Vis was produced in Poland under the new name of 9 mm pistol 645(p). Fearing that Polish technicians working in the armory might supply the Home Army with the weapons, the Germans moved production of barrels and final assembly to Steyr-Daimler-Puch Austria. However, underground production of Vis barrels was started in Warsaw and Kielce-based Huta Ludwików, and several hundred Vis pistols were assembled of parts smuggled from the factory, delivered to the Home Army and used extensively during the Warsaw Uprising, among others. In late 1944, all production was moved to the Steyr works in Austria, where the last simplified model of the fourth series was produced. However, the pistol 645(p) produced for the German army never had the quality of the wz. 35 Vis produced for the Polish army before the war. Because obviously the Polish workers were not as motivated during production for the Germans. The transfer of production to Austria did not increase the quality either. After the war, production of the pistol was not continued, as the Army of the People's Republic of Poland used the Soviet TT-33 pistol, produced in the former Fabryka Broni in Radom due to Warsaw Pact regulations. It was considered much inferior to the Vis, especially in ergonomics and reliability, but political considerations and Soviet influence were decisive. Today the wz. 35 Vis is highly prized among collectors of firearms
I purchased a Vis made in Radom, Poland, while I was stationed in Germany back in the "60"s. I was told the Germans named it the P35. The German paratroopers were issued it. I take it to the range and fire it at least once a year. I have large hands, and the triangular grip makes the gun easy to shoot. My son will end up with it some day.
@@chasl5311 Well I'm sorry to say it like that, but I don't like this gun. Because this gun which was actually called Pistole 645(p), but which was for some reason often rendered as P 35(p) (the suffix "p" means "Polish") symbolizes the Polish defeat of 1939, which was mainly due to the betrayal of the shameful Polish allies. The British and French declaration of war 1939 against Germany served only for saving face. The British and French had no intention of honoring their treaty obligation under the treaty of alliance and launching a massive attack in the west. They wanted to sacrifice Poland for peace with the Germans! This was the continuation of British and French foolish appeasement politics of the 30s! It could even be that your gun was not made in Poland at all because fearing that Polish technicians working in the armory might supply the Polish underground "Home Army" with the weapons, the Germans moved production of barrels and final assembly to Steyr-Daimler-Puch in Austria. The factory machinery that was moved to Austria was of course not brought back to Poland, as so much of what that nefarious Nazi nation robbed from Poland. That the fears of the German occupiers were justified shows the fact that the Polish underground production of Vis barrels was started in Warsaw and Kielce-based Huta Ludwików, and several hundred Vis pistols were assembled of parts smuggled from the factory, delivered to the Home Army and used extensively during the Warsaw Uprising, among others. However I don't want to say that your Pistole 645(p) is bad, but it certainly doesn't have the quality of the Vis wz. 35 which was produced in Poland before the war. Quoting from Wiki: Generally, the German wartime Vis were of much lower quality than the original, and further declined towards the end of the war. But since the Polish original Vis wz. 35 gun was such a good gun, the gun made by the Germans was still a good gun. Unfortunately, because the Germans could fight well with this weapon. BUT...not only did they fight with their weapons, they also murdered a lot. So it could be that your gun was used to murder civilians. I'm sorry that I had to write this to you, but unfortunately that's reality! Greetings from Poland with a regret!
My favorite 3 WW2 handguns are the 1911 (I'm American, I love my US guns), the TT-33 and Type 14 Nambu (I have a soft spot for Russian and Japanese weapons)
I'm also a fan of the Type 14, very cool looking gun, although It has some performance issues. What baffles me is how the japanese could then come up with a little monster like the Type 94...ugly and dangerous!
I normally love US guns, but IMO the 1911 is probably the most overhyped handgun of WW2. The problem with Japanese guns are the anemic caliber. 8mm nambu really is quite weak. I would say the best overall pistol, all things considered, would be the P-38. It was an excellent, reliable pistol that had features that would influence later designs.
THANKS for showing! :) When I see all those like that in the SAME time, I can not help preferring the three revolvers: the S&W, the Webley and the Nagant… (even if I love some of automatics on the table).
You left out the Browning M1935 pistol, aka the Browning Hi-Power; made initially at FN in Belgium, continued under German occupation and issued to German troops. Also made in Canada and issued to Canadian forces. The British SOE also used them as they could re-supply ammunition from German stock. Of note, Colt and S&W M1917 revolvers did not have identical internals and cannot be swapped out.
Britain started phasing out the Webleys during World War 2 with the high power, however the Webleys were still used post war and weren't properly phased out until well into the 1960's
I proudly own a Singer manufactured 1911A1 that I bought at a knife and gun show 45 years ago for 100 dollars and it's all matching numbers. The old girl shoots almost as good as my Kimber
Fantastic video, such a wealth of information. Thanks for making! I really would love to acquire some of these guns. I am not a huge fan of the CMP overpriced 1911- Especially given the massive mismatch of parts and the fact that modern commercial parts are used.
The Mauser C96 was not only in WW1 but in WW2 as well. So as the Italian Gliscenti M1910 also in both WW1 and WW2. Austria and Hungary together had their weaponry such as the Roth-Steyr M1907 and Steyr-Hahn M1912.
Crimgeness defined. He can't answer that here. Go watch one of his recent weekly used gun reviews. In the first couple minutes, you'll get what you desire.
My dad picked up an officer's large luger with a swastika on it in the Battle of the Bulge. Unfortunately he traded it for a small pistol from WWI called a Ruby that was used by a French underground person. Apparently he wanted a pistol he could conceal more easily but I wish he had hung on to the luger.
In speaking about the 1911 history, North American Arms did make 1911 guns but only 100 were made. They were not very good quality and had problems so they lost the contract...
good list but should include the Hi-Power since it was used on both sides and perhaps WOULDA been the US sidearm as the p38 came in for GER but the US stockpiles from ww1 likely precluded budget considerations thru the 30s
You be careful or gun Jesus is gonna get you! 😂😂😂 Always a pleasure getting information on all kinds of slingshots, no matter the country of origin. It’s interesting to me that soo many have a great fascination with anything WWII related, me included!😬 Thank you for sharing!
I mean the polish Semi-automatic pistol wz. 35 Vis 9×19 mm caliber is greater. The Polish Gun is lighter than the Colt M1911. The Vis characteristic feature was a triangular grip shape, wider at the bottom, offering good ergonomics and firm grip. The tests proved that the Polish handgun was very accurate and stable. Due to its size and mass, most stresses are absorbed and not passed on the shooter, while at the same time remaining reliable after firing more than 6,000 rounds. The Polish Vis was generally regarded as one of the best military pistols of that period. The Germans used the armaments factories in the occupied countries to produce weapons and also produced the wz. 35 Vis. The Germans had the lists of workers. Those who refused to work were killed. So for the German army, the wz. 35 Vis was produced in Poland under the new name of 9 mm pistol 645(p). Fearing that Polish technicians working in the armory might supply the Home Army with the weapons, the Germans moved production of barrels and final assembly to Steyr-Daimler-Puch Austria. However, underground production of Vis barrels was started in Warsaw and Kielce-based Huta Ludwików, and several hundred Vis pistols were assembled of parts smuggled from the factory, delivered to the Home Army and used extensively during the Warsaw Uprising, among others. In late 1944, all production was moved to the Steyr works in Austria, where the last simplified model of the fourth series was produced. However, the pistol 645(p) produced for the German army never had the quality of the wz. 35 Vis produced for the Polish army before the war. Because obviously the Polish workers were not as motivated during production for the Germans. The transfer of production to Austria did not increase the quality either. Today the wz. 35 Vis is highly prized among collectors of firearms
So im wondering why the Walther ppk was left out of this video? The Walther was probably the most popular side arm for officers in the German military, all branches.
The notion that close tolerances in a gun makes them more prone to stoppages from dirt and mud is a long propagated myth. The Luger was in fact very reliable. Why else would the Germans continue its production into WW2 if the experience from WW1 was so bad? The Luger was no more prone to stoppages than the M1911. What determines whether a gun is prone to malfunction from dirt and mud is how well it seals off the internals from the dirt and mud. Having lose tolerances is not going to help if the dirt and mud gets inside the gun. This is also why the AKM fails mud tests, but the M-16 passes.
The Nazi flag is censored due to YT. But Japaness was just as burtal as the Nazi during WW2. Dont let YT make us forget our history if we forget our history we are doomed to repeat it.
One problem, I don't see a Browning Hi power. Now yes it wasn't officially adopted by any of the major powers in WW2, but! It was used by both allied and axis powers in Europe and North Africa most notably by German officers who massively preferred it over their lugers and later walther P38s as it had a much larger magazine. So it feels a bit horrible to not showcase it alongside the other handguns as it did play a part in that war most notably being thee only handgun I believe used by both sides when Germany took over Belgium and the FN factory and allies when they liberated it.
I wonder why the Germans didn't make the P38 with a double stack mag, or even make it take Hi-power mags.... It isn't like they were worried about upsetting anybody's patent. A double stack P-38 would have been the best piszol in the world for decades to come....
A very long time ago, when he was still alive, I wrote Carl Walther and told him the exact same thing, that I wanted a P38 with a Double Stack Magazine. He wrote me back and thanked me for buying my P38 and PPK/S and suggested I buy a new Walther P89 instead. Later, I bought a Beretta 92 and called it good enough.
German armed forces had to use all pistols in 9mm Parabellum or 7,65 Browning they could get, so FN or polish Radom had no stop in production. Also french, belgian and czech pistols had been used by german forces. Other cartridges had been not so liked by german armed persons.
It wasn't the only pistol that Germans used. Unfortunately! The Germans used the armaments factories in the occupied countries to produce weapons and also produced the polish Semi-automatic pistol wz. 35 Vis 9×19mm caliber. The Germans had the lists of workers. Those who refused to work were killed. So for the German army, the wz. 35 Vis was produced in Poland under the new name of 9 mm pistol 645(p). Fearing that Polish technicians working in the armory might supply the Home Army with the weapons, the Germans moved production of barrels and final assembly to Steyr-Daimler-Puch Austria. However, underground production of Vis barrels was started in Warsaw and Kielce-based Huta Ludwików, and several hundred Vis pistols were assembled of parts smuggled from the factory, delivered to the Home Army and used extensively during the Warsaw Uprising, among others. In late 1944, all production was moved to the Steyr works in Austria, where the last simplified model of the fourth series was produced. However, the pistol 645(p) produced for the German army never had the quality of the wz. 35 Vis produced for the Polish army before the war. Because obviously the Polish workers were not as motivated during production for the Germans. The transfer of production to Austria did not increase the quality either. By the way, its characteristic feature was a triangular grip shape, wider at the bottom, offering good ergonomics and firm grip. The tests proved that the Polish handgun was very accurate and stable. Due to its size and mass, most stresses are absorbed and not passed on the shooter, while at the same time remaining reliable after firing more than 6,000 rounds. Today the wz. 35 Vis is highly prized among collectors of firearms
They have a certain cult quality and very mechanical. They had a poor reputation in post ww2 Britain as the ammunition available wasn't as 'hot' and wouldn't blow back properly. Their advantage was very accurate over other designs indeed compares quite well today but not that soldier proof and in the rough and tumble of war could clog readily . The P38 was cheaper and more practical although presumably not as accurate, i find the exposed barrel as a result of the short slide gives them a naked appearance
Simple because it costs money and time, to simply switch out a weapon means either spending millions of money either in straight up procurement such as the US simply buying leopard tanks or ak47 ’s as a replacement for the M4, or via a standing order where the army would buy two hundred guns at a time and then slowly phase out the old rifle, mean while purchasing a container ship full of ammunition for the thing. Alternatively the other option is to buy contracts and slowly build up from there which is both expensive and time consuming but it allows a country to build and produce locally rather than to rely on imports like the British Thompsons sent from America when the British went F IT, and built the STEN MK2 because it was cheaper and easier to produce, rather than spend two hundred pounds per gun, only to then lose it via a U-boat attack, but again with such a process, requires either the construction of a new factory or facility to be built as well as staff trained to manufacture said goods, which again takes time and money, which is why countries like Britian and most other countries kept uniting the same rounds from the 1800’s such as the British 303 which was used from 1889-1950 and even to this day but as a military round it ended at 1950 when the 7.62x51mm nato was introduced when the British switched to the FN FAL, simply because the 303 was well proven to be a fairly reliable round as well as again, for a massive empire which needed to arm and equip large numbers of soldiers it was simpler to just keep the same rounds since most of the factories had already been built, and again much like today, it’s the exact same reason why the US army cannot simply up and do away the the m4 without causing massive economical problems as well as giving enough guns and ammunition to enough soldiers to ensure that the army has enough combat active ammunition as well as reserve ammunition in times of actual war.
During WWII, most 1917 revolvers still in service were issued to MPs or otherwise kept out of the front lines. The S&W Victory .38 was more numerous and saw a lot more front line service, being standard issue to sailors and aviators.
In Germany, revolvers had not the tradition as in other countries, so there had been only some revolvers used by Volkssturm.
@@brittakriep2938 I've noticed this, central Europe and germany especially have always seemed to avoid revolvers. Much more an american and British thing. I still love them for their reliability and solidity though, great for self defence.
Absolutely. I was surprised I didn’t see a Victory model featured here.
@@brittakriep2938 perhaps it was one of things and a force of habit, Germans liked lot's of wheels on the vehicles
@@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 : I am german, but i don't understand your comment. What has a Revolver cylinder ( in german Trommel/ drum) to do with vehicle wheels?
I love watching old WW2 (& to a lesser extent Korea, Vietnam) footage on UA-cam and elsewhere. I pay particular attention to the small arms the various combatants are using. This type of content is really informative. You have an enviable collection. Thanks for sharing a part of it.
Hi. Maybe you can awnser me some questions there. Those would be...
So you know wich Type of soldiers actually die get Side arms. Faction wise. Cause i didnt found clear information on If Most ordinary soldiers got a Pistol to their rifl. Thats Something i would be interested in.
but was it true that only useless people (those that are adhered to as SIr) carry them?
My favorite service handgun of World War Two is the Browning Hi Power. It's 13 round magazine of 9mm simplicity reliability and ease to field strip makes it a very popular choice even today. Odd historical aspect is the Hi Power was the only handgun issued in large numbers by both the Axis and Allied countries. The gun was adopted by the Belgium army in the early 1930s and when the Germans invaded Belgium in 1940 factory workers at FN sent all the paperwork and parts to Britain who then had Canada make Hi Powers for use with the British commonwealth forces and also the Chinese military who were fighting against the Japanese. The Germans were very impressed with the Hi Power and because it was chambered in 9mm Luger the Germans kept the FN factory in production making Hi Powers for the Wehrmacht.
It's 1000% ridiculous that a history type channel cannot show a historical flag. That's going too far.
I guess Communism is okay because you can show the Soviet Union flag. Creepy when you think about it because the Soviet Union killed way more innocent people than Nazi Germany did.
What r talking about this is marksmans channel not history this is utube not Direct TV Dumbass
Agreed
Stupid sensitive youtube
I think because it represents hate since the symbol is backward.
That Beretta is cute as hell, its that nice mix of old, crude military look but it get some more modern style and feel that started to show up in that period.
The Royal Ulster Constabulary were carrying the Webley .38 in the 1970's.
My Great Grandfather served as a Civil Defense Air Warden. He was issued a Mod 1917 during the War. We still have his Helmet, which was a variation of the old Brodie helmet. Wish we had the gun, but it went to another member of the family.
I personally think the P-38 was the best combat pistol in WW2. People always think Luger and 1911 when they think about WW2. I believe the P-38 was well ahead of those two, just IMO.
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Hi power destroys all. Only 1911 with .45 slug comes close. Basic ball ammo makes that bore mean more!
I agree, not as much love as it deserved.
Good thing I have all four mentioned…
P 38 was first military semi automatic pistol with Double Action , FN ,High Power' was first military semi automatic pistol with 13 rounds. So both pistols had been in some aspect the first one.
As soon as he said there were about 1000 Singer 1911’s made I checked on their value. One sold in 2017 for $414,000!
Amazing video love the format and the content. Like knowing the range of the value to use as a reference
Outstanding tutorial Chris, what a relivant collection👏
Thanks for explaining the A designation
Very informative, thanks. I had been a collector of WW2 handguns for many years. The P-38 has to be the most prolific sidearm produced mainly because its features have been carried over for the production of so many modern day offerings. A pure trend setter.
He never said how many rounds the semi auto s hold .
What do you mean many years? Are you one of those types who firmly believe that "It's never over"? Ww2 another go, never stop, yes?
@@AremStefaniaKP-1 much?
Enjoyed this one Chris thanks
I find it funny that during the trials when the us adopted the Colt 1911 they wanted to adopt the Luger PO8 because it was a popular civilian pistol In the vary late 1890s early 1900s but they chosen the 1911 because it was less complicated made in America and not the German empire.
38 S&W is a very pleasant cartridge to shoot. Would love to have a Webley of my own someday.
As far as i know, some years ago, chinese gouvernement introduced a revolver in a similar cartidge, to arm formerly not armed second line policemen.
Great video, but you missed the side arm used by both the Allies and the Germans. This would be the Browning designed P35 Hi-Power.
Agreed! I own a hi-power made in 1943 in Ingles, Canada. It’s a great shooter!
Yes, a mistake not get incluído this great gun
He also missed France entirely.
Thanks for the informative video.
I own, but do not use, my father’s souvenir Japanese Type 26 revolver from WWII.
Another German one that also saw some service was the Browning Hi-Power made under licence by FN. When Germany invaded Belgium, they took over the FN factory. German soldiers did get issued Hi-Powers, and in my opinion, was the best pistol of the Second World War.
Thats not correct, the HP35 made under occupation were officially issued to the Waffen-SS.
Nambu type 14 is my favourite gun of World War 2!!!!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵🇯🇵
Decades ago I had a war returned Walter P-38 and it’s the only gun I fired a lot that I developed a flinch. It would eject its brass in indiscriminate directions including straight back hitting my glasses. I also had the officer that brought back the P-38, his issued 1911. It would put its ejected ball cases into a 4 foot circle about 8 feet away.
The American 1911 & The Russian Tokarev 7.62 were ahead of there time… im sure some other pistols were more durable & reliable but those 2 look the most similar to today’s amazing pistols!🇺🇸
Browning HP and P-38 are much better
@@TJ-xmm Hi power was well ahead of anything else at the time.
I have a Webley Mark IV .38 that was used by the police in Singapore with a safety on it. I have never seen one with a safety before.
The middle six for me. Excluding the type 94. Just so awesome and revolutionary respectably in different pistol concepts. Fun fact Nambu Type 14 was the influence for the Ruger pistol. Ruger saw that the Nambu was an awesome design but Nambu was shafted in its manufacturing. Nambu generally had his weapons exceeding every standard for any country at the time. Except the pistols I feel like the Japanese leaders didn’t care about sidearms enough. In their defense they are kinda right. But Colt Nambu Luger and p38 are Just art in steel form 😌😌
My grandfather was a Royal Air Force pilot. He was issued with a US Colt revolver rather than a British made Webley or Enfield pistol.
My grandfather have a Luger. It's a officer's variant with a mint condition holster.
The P-38 is so iconic in it's lines. Picture it without the long barrel and what do you see. Berretta liked it and browning had similar lines but who influenced who. Maybe just played off of one another. I like the P-38 myself, maybe with the Browning power.
One of the best presentations. Happy Thanksgiving. 👍😎🙏
There were experimental soviet pistols before and during the war. They had a double stack 7.62х25 magazines. For example a 1942 Tokarev with 12-15 round magazine.
The Polish Semi-automatic pistol wz. 35 Vis 9×19 mm caliber was one of the best pistols of WW2! Its characteristic feature was a triangular grip shape, wider at the bottom, offering good ergonomics and firm grip. The tests proved that the Polish handgun was very accurate and stable. Due to its size and mass, most stresses are absorbed and not passed on the shooter, while at the same time remaining reliable after firing more than 6,000 rounds. The Vis was generally regarded as one of the best military pistols of that period. The Germans used the armaments factories in the occupied countries to produce weapons and also produced the wz. 35 Vis. The Germans had the lists of workers. Those who refused to work were killed. So for the German army, the wz. 35 Vis was produced in Poland under the new name of 9 mm pistol 645(p). Fearing that Polish technicians working in the armory might supply the Home Army with the weapons, the Germans moved production of barrels and final assembly to Steyr-Daimler-Puch Austria. However, underground production of Vis barrels was started in Warsaw and Kielce-based Huta Ludwików, and several hundred Vis pistols were assembled of parts smuggled from the factory, delivered to the Home Army and used extensively during the Warsaw Uprising, among others. In late 1944, all production was moved to the Steyr works in Austria, where the last simplified model of the fourth series was produced. However, the pistol 645(p) produced for the German army never had the quality of the wz. 35 Vis produced for the Polish army before the war. Because obviously the Polish workers were not as motivated during production for the Germans. The transfer of production to Austria did not increase the quality either.
After the war, production of the pistol was not continued, as the Army of the People's Republic of Poland used the Soviet TT-33 pistol, produced in the former Fabryka Broni in Radom due to Warsaw Pact regulations. It was considered much inferior to the Vis, especially in ergonomics and reliability, but political considerations and Soviet influence were decisive.
Today the wz. 35 Vis is highly prized among collectors of firearms
I purchased a Vis made in Radom, Poland, while I was stationed in Germany back in the "60"s. I was told the Germans named it the P35. The German paratroopers were issued it.
I take it to the range and fire it at least once a year. I have large hands, and the triangular grip makes the gun easy to shoot. My son will end up with it some day.
@@chasl5311 Well I'm sorry to say it like that, but I don't like this gun. Because this gun which was actually called Pistole 645(p), but which was for some reason often rendered as P 35(p) (the suffix "p" means "Polish") symbolizes the Polish defeat of 1939, which was mainly due to the betrayal of the shameful Polish allies. The British and French declaration of war 1939 against Germany served only for saving face. The British and French had no intention of honoring their treaty obligation under the treaty of alliance and launching a massive attack in the west. They wanted to sacrifice Poland for peace with the Germans! This was the continuation of British and French foolish appeasement politics of the 30s! It could even be that your gun was not made in Poland at all because fearing that Polish technicians working in the armory might supply the Polish underground "Home Army" with the weapons, the Germans moved production of barrels and final assembly to Steyr-Daimler-Puch in Austria. The factory machinery that was moved to Austria was of course not brought back to Poland, as so much of what that nefarious Nazi nation robbed from Poland. That the fears of the German occupiers were justified shows the fact that the Polish underground production of Vis barrels was started in Warsaw and Kielce-based Huta Ludwików, and several hundred Vis pistols were assembled of parts smuggled from the factory, delivered to the Home Army and used extensively during the Warsaw Uprising, among others. However I don't want to say that your Pistole 645(p) is bad, but it certainly doesn't have the quality of the Vis wz. 35 which was produced in Poland before the war. Quoting from Wiki: Generally, the German wartime Vis were of much lower quality than the original, and further declined towards the end of the war. But since the Polish original Vis wz. 35 gun was such a good gun, the gun made by the Germans was still a good gun. Unfortunately, because the Germans could fight well with this weapon. BUT...not only did they fight with their weapons, they also murdered a lot. So it could be that your gun was used to murder civilians. I'm sorry that I had to write this to you, but unfortunately that's reality!
Greetings from Poland with a regret!
Nice little collection there
My favorite & the best: Model 1911 .45.
You are missing a Polish pistol Vis wz. 35
Gen Mark Clark actually retained his issue M1917 rather than receiving a 1911, citing the excellent accuracy of his particular revolver.
Walther P38, Browning HP and 1911 are best pistols during WWII
My favorite 3 WW2 handguns are the 1911 (I'm American, I love my US guns), the TT-33 and Type 14 Nambu (I have a soft spot for Russian and Japanese weapons)
I'm also a fan of the Type 14, very cool looking gun, although It has some performance issues. What baffles me is how the japanese could then come up with a little monster like the Type 94...ugly and dangerous!
I normally love US guns, but IMO the 1911 is probably the most overhyped handgun of WW2. The problem with Japanese guns are the anemic caliber. 8mm nambu really is quite weak. I would say the best overall pistol, all things considered, would be the P-38. It was an excellent, reliable pistol that had features that would influence later designs.
THANKS for showing! :)
When I see all those like that in the SAME time, I can not help preferring the three revolvers: the S&W, the Webley and the Nagant…
(even if I love some of automatics on the table).
What about the 9mm Browning HiPower used by the UK and Canada?
Brilliant video... great stuff !!!
You left out the Browning M1935 pistol, aka the Browning Hi-Power; made initially at FN in Belgium, continued under German occupation and issued to German troops. Also made in Canada and issued to Canadian forces. The British SOE also used them as they could re-supply ammunition from German stock. Of note, Colt and S&W M1917 revolvers did not have identical internals and cannot be swapped out.
Should be a Browning Hi Power in there some where.
That could be with multiple countries. China, Belgium, Britain, Canada, Germany and maybe someone I missed.
You insist on the Hi Power, I will have to mention the Polish Radom. It’s a hybrid of the 1911 AND the Hi Power!
You missed 1. The Browning HP is also one of the mass produced.
Britain started phasing out the Webleys during World War 2 with the high power, however the Webleys were still used post war and weren't properly phased out until well into the 1960's
I really enjoy the ruski 1911, it's a fun little pistol to shoot. It's like the 1903 pocket and the 1911 had a high velocity flat shooting baby.
It’s essentially a browning 1907
I like the BlasTech DL-44 / Mauser C96 just for the looks.
What no mab for France and Canadian high powers were used by the English through ww2 up until the 80s.
You historical videos are getting better.
What where the 1911 grips made of in ww1? Walnut?
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@@joshuagibson2520 thank you
Yes
I proudly own a Singer manufactured 1911A1 that I bought at a knife and gun show 45 years ago for 100 dollars and it's all matching numbers. The old girl shoots almost as good as my Kimber
Fantastic video, such a wealth of information. Thanks for making! I really would love to acquire some of these guns. I am not a huge fan of the CMP overpriced 1911- Especially given the massive mismatch of parts and the fact that modern commercial parts are used.
Gotta add a Mauser 35 and a Hi-Power to that great collection
The Mauser C96 was not only in WW1 but in WW2 as well. So as the Italian Gliscenti M1910 also in both WW1 and WW2. Austria and Hungary together had their weaponry such as the Roth-Steyr M1907 and Steyr-Hahn M1912.
Its a Glisenti... 😉
Do you sell used guns and if so what's your contact information
Crimgeness defined. He can't answer that here. Go watch one of his recent weekly used gun reviews. In the first couple minutes, you'll get what you desire.
My dad picked up an officer's large luger with a swastika on it in the Battle of the Bulge. Unfortunately he traded it for a small pistol from WWI called a Ruby that was used by a French underground person. Apparently he wanted a pistol he could conceal more easily but I wish he had hung on to the luger.
Awesome Chris
In speaking about the 1911 history, North American Arms did make 1911 guns but only 100 were made. They were not very good quality and had problems so they lost the contract...
good list but should
include the Hi-Power since
it was used on both sides and
perhaps WOULDA been the US
sidearm as the p38 came in for
GER but the US stockpiles from
ww1 likely precluded budget
considerations thru the 30s
That isn't CCCP mark but SSSR on cyrillic which means USSR 24:14
Do you have the Walter Model 8. It's a smaller firearm 6.35 mm, doctor Joseph Goebel's had that gun?
Browning Hi Power was used by both sides, which is kind of interesting.
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Always a pleasure getting information on all kinds of slingshots, no matter the country of origin.
It’s interesting to me that soo many have a great fascination with anything WWII related, me included!😬
Thank you for sharing!
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There’s none greater than the M1911 two world wars
I mean the polish Semi-automatic pistol wz. 35 Vis 9×19 mm caliber is greater. The Polish Gun is lighter than the Colt M1911. The Vis characteristic feature was a triangular grip shape, wider at the bottom, offering good ergonomics and firm grip. The tests proved that the Polish handgun was very accurate and stable. Due to its size and mass, most stresses are absorbed and not passed on the shooter, while at the same time remaining reliable after firing more than 6,000 rounds. The Polish Vis was generally regarded as one of the best military pistols of that period. The Germans used the armaments factories in the occupied countries to produce weapons and also produced the wz. 35 Vis. The Germans had the lists of workers. Those who refused to work were killed. So for the German army, the wz. 35 Vis was produced in Poland under the new name of 9 mm pistol 645(p). Fearing that Polish technicians working in the armory might supply the Home Army with the weapons, the Germans moved production of barrels and final assembly to Steyr-Daimler-Puch Austria. However, underground production of Vis barrels was started in Warsaw and Kielce-based Huta Ludwików, and several hundred Vis pistols were assembled of parts smuggled from the factory, delivered to the Home Army and used extensively during the Warsaw Uprising, among others. In late 1944, all production was moved to the Steyr works in Austria, where the last simplified model of the fourth series was produced. However, the pistol 645(p) produced for the German army never had the quality of the wz. 35 Vis produced for the Polish army before the war. Because obviously the Polish workers were not as motivated during production for the Germans. The transfer of production to Austria did not increase the quality either.
Today the wz. 35 Vis is highly prized among collectors of firearms
@@GreatPolishWingedHussars nah 1911 is still a timeless jem
You missed the Browning Hi-Power which was used in large numbers by *both* sides!
Walther PP, Browning Hi-Power P35, Lahti L35 / M40, Radom FB 35 VIS, Iinglis Hi-Power MK1, Kongsberg 1911 11.25mm ....
Excellent video, excellent thank you
So im wondering why the Walther ppk was left out of this video? The Walther was probably the most popular side arm for officers in the German military, all branches.
Browning, Tokarev, and Luger on one table *drools*
The notion that close tolerances in a gun makes them more prone to stoppages from dirt and mud is a long propagated myth. The Luger was in fact very reliable. Why else would the Germans continue its production into WW2 if the experience from WW1 was so bad? The Luger was no more prone to stoppages than the M1911. What determines whether a gun is prone to malfunction from dirt and mud is how well it seals off the internals from the dirt and mud. Having lose tolerances is not going to help if the dirt and mud gets inside the gun. This is also why the AKM fails mud tests, but the M-16 passes.
I might be wrong but I thought production stopped in 1938 or certainly wasn't the premier issue weapon from then as the p38 took its place
As usual You Tube policy is fairly stupid. Good video.
My personal favorite is the Browning Hi Power
You forget the FN GP35 used by the British and all the Commonwealth forces. The US also used .38 M&P Revolvers for different purposes.
The 1911 is hotter than any other gun Americans are the best when it comes to guns
I carry the beretta today. Great piece.
Love your work!
never thought about them much before but i admire that japanese type14
Hard to believe that 1911 born in 1911 is still very very popular
You forget about the browning hi power used by both Germany and Britain
The Nazi flag is censored due to YT. But Japaness was just as burtal as the Nazi during WW2. Dont let YT make us forget our history if we forget our history we are doomed to repeat it.
The FN Browning Hi-Power was used a lot in WW2 by the British, Americans and the Germans.
One problem, I don't see a Browning Hi power. Now yes it wasn't officially adopted by any of the major powers in WW2, but! It was used by both allied and axis powers in Europe and North Africa most notably by German officers who massively preferred it over their lugers and later walther P38s as it had a much larger magazine.
So it feels a bit horrible to not showcase it alongside the other handguns as it did play a part in that war most notably being thee only handgun I believe used by both sides when Germany took over Belgium and the FN factory and allies when they liberated it.
I wonder why the Germans didn't make the P38 with a double stack mag, or even make it take Hi-power mags.... It isn't like they were worried about upsetting anybody's patent. A double stack P-38 would have been the best piszol in the world for decades to come....
A very long time ago, when he was still alive, I wrote Carl Walther and told him the exact same thing, that I wanted a P38 with a Double Stack Magazine.
He wrote me back and thanked me for buying my P38 and PPK/S and suggested I buy a new Walther P89 instead.
Later, I bought a Beretta 92 and called it good enough.
Even Brazil adopted the Luger...but in 7.65x21 parabellum (.30 Luger)
Hi power was a WW2 weapon used on both sides,thought that was commom knowledge?
The Nagant Revolver a gun outdated when it was fielded in WW1 still in use during WW2 and Vietnam
I think I need all of those. That is why I try to not go to gun stores.
I know what you mean. Walked in to off load a shotgun I no longer needed, walked out, well when the papers arrive, with a 1914 Luger. LOL
No Victory Pre Model 10?!
No GP-35 (FN Hi-Power)? First military double stack and in 9mm. German's certainly liked them when they took over FN's Belgium factory.
German armed forces had to use all pistols in 9mm Parabellum or 7,65 Browning they could get, so FN or polish Radom had no stop in production. Also french, belgian and czech pistols had been used by german forces. Other cartridges had been not so liked by german armed persons.
A ViS wz. 35 ??
So, isn't that Webley a top-break? Show us. Great vid, Ty.
YOU FORGOT!! 😄
The p-35 made in Belgium. Belgium produces them during WW2, used by German troops.
It wasn't the only pistol that Germans used. Unfortunately! The Germans used the armaments factories in the occupied countries to produce weapons and also produced the polish Semi-automatic pistol wz. 35 Vis 9×19mm caliber. The Germans had the lists of workers. Those who refused to work were killed. So for the German army, the wz. 35 Vis was produced in Poland under the new name of 9 mm pistol 645(p). Fearing that Polish technicians working in the armory might supply the Home Army with the weapons, the Germans moved production of barrels and final assembly to Steyr-Daimler-Puch Austria. However, underground production of Vis barrels was started in Warsaw and Kielce-based Huta Ludwików, and several hundred Vis pistols were assembled of parts smuggled from the factory, delivered to the Home Army and used extensively during the Warsaw Uprising, among others. In late 1944, all production was moved to the Steyr works in Austria, where the last simplified model of the fourth series was produced. However, the pistol 645(p) produced for the German army never had the quality of the wz. 35 Vis produced for the Polish army before the war. Because obviously the Polish workers were not as motivated during production for the Germans. The transfer of production to Austria did not increase the quality either.
By the way, its characteristic feature was a triangular grip shape, wider at the bottom, offering good ergonomics and firm grip. The tests proved that the Polish handgun was very accurate and stable. Due to its size and mass, most stresses are absorbed and not passed on the shooter, while at the same time remaining reliable after firing more than 6,000 rounds.
Today the wz. 35 Vis is highly prized among collectors of firearms
I really would like to collect a Luger
The Luger is totally overrated. A big disadvantage is that the breech is sensitive to dirt and this is a big disadvantage for a war weapon.
@@GreatPolishWingedHussars still want one
@@SlickSixguns The Polish Semi-automatic pistol wz. 35 Vis 9 × 19mm caliber as one of the best pistols of WW2 is much more desired by collectors!
They have a certain cult quality and very mechanical. They had a poor reputation in post ww2 Britain as the ammunition available wasn't as 'hot' and wouldn't blow back properly. Their advantage was very accurate over other designs indeed compares quite well today but not that soldier proof and in the rough and tumble of war could clog readily . The P38 was cheaper and more practical although presumably not as accurate, i find the exposed barrel as a result of the short slide gives them a naked appearance
7:27 I'm afraid it's not a WWII Luger.
I would love to have one of those pistols there awesome
Simple because it costs money and time, to simply switch out a weapon means either spending millions of money either in straight up procurement such as the US simply buying leopard tanks or ak47 ’s as a replacement for the M4, or via a standing order where the army would buy two hundred guns at a time and then slowly phase out the old rifle, mean while purchasing a container ship full of ammunition for the thing. Alternatively the other option is to buy contracts and slowly build up from there which is both expensive and time consuming but it allows a country to build and produce locally rather than to rely on imports like the British Thompsons sent from America when the British went F IT, and built the STEN MK2 because it was cheaper and easier to produce, rather than spend two hundred pounds per gun, only to then lose it via a U-boat attack, but again with such a process, requires either the construction of a new factory or facility to be built as well as staff trained to manufacture said goods, which again takes time and money, which is why countries like Britian and most other countries kept uniting the same rounds from the 1800’s such as the British 303 which was used from 1889-1950 and even to this day but as a military round it ended at 1950 when the 7.62x51mm nato was introduced when the British switched to the FN FAL, simply because the 303 was well proven to be a fairly reliable round as well as again, for a massive empire which needed to arm and equip large numbers of soldiers it was simpler to just keep the same rounds since most of the factories had already been built, and again much like today, it’s the exact same reason why the US army cannot simply up and do away the the m4 without causing massive economical problems as well as giving enough guns and ammunition to enough soldiers to ensure that the army has enough combat active ammunition as well as reserve ammunition in times of actual war.
When I first saw the thumbnail, I thought this was a Mishaco video.
1935 FN High Power? Colt M1917? Lahti L-35? VIS-35 Radom?
I'm kind of surprised i didn't see any of the victory model revolvers.
I have a Ruby style pistol 6,35 and cursive writing Landenban?? Not sure… safety is on left behind grip..
Forget about the best.... 🇧🇪 Fabriqué Nationale Browning Hi-Power
Great video
my father use tt-33 more than 10 years so its also my favorite