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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2023
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Yep, you touched exactly on why I prefer the Grayl over an internal filter bottle. The ability to dump the clean water into another container. Also, with the Grayl being a purifier instead of just a filter, it would be my preferred if I was near any populated areas like subdivisions, commercial agriculture, and industrial areas. Too many herbicides, pesticides, and chemical fertilizers to contaminate the streams to make me want to just use a filter instead of a purifier. About the only time I'd feel comfortable using just a filter would be in the mountains where there's no subdivisions, commercial agriculture, or industrial areas to produce contaminated runoff into the streams.
Even outside of urban areas, the woods I run around in are full of cinnabar (mercury ore) mines that are 100+ years old at this point, the risk of unseen mercury or other heavy metals in water is why I went with grayl . My home water supply has had unsafe levels of arsenic in it before and most filters won't remove that.
@dalton12316 yep, forgot that one. Near old(pre-epa) mine sites, where extremely harmful chemicals were used to extract and process the material.
Grayl geopress is the best no discussion
Take a LifeStraw Peak Squeeze or Katadyn BeFree if you want to pour clean water. Sawyer makes squeeze version as well. You're making up a problem that doesn't exist.
As for "purification" abilities of GRAYL. Have you actually tested it?
@@kgm2182 Good tip on how to kill your carbon filter much quicker.
Here in the Midwest we have way too much farm run-off. I use the Grayl and will continue to do so.
That is awesome!
If you add a mill bank or some type of pre-filter bag, before you fill your grill bottle full of water, it will increase the longevity of the filter by a lot. This system works real well for me. Thought I might add..
I spent nearly two weeks in an Oregon wilderness are with what I thought was a bad case of the flu. A few years later I discovered it most likely was Giardia. That was the late 70's. Great weight loss program if it doesn't kill you.
When you need a filter, use a Katadyn BeFree. When you need a purifier, use the Grayl. Both systems allow you to share water with your mates. Done.
Sawyer squeeze as filter/long term solution/to use when stationary (+boiling), grayl as a quick use solution (that+a couple extra cartridges should last you forever, along with the squeeze)
Speed isn't always best when your health and safety is involved. The life straw maybe quicker but I think taking the extra steps might be better when drinking water that might be contaminated.
I'm glad that you stated that Grayl protects against chemicals, pesticides AND viruses.
Grayl filters are one of the few purifiers that do that, granted viruses are less common in the U.S. than overseas. It's just good to know that one is fully protected when using a Grayl!
Which is why I have been using Grayl Geopress purifiers for years, don't plan on using anything less.
GRAYL only protects to a certain extent and only against limited concentrations. By no means you are fully protected while using it. Don't get a false sense of security.
Only use it as a precaution and only with relatively safe water that you suspect may have traces of chemicals or viruses and not if you know for sure it is contaminated.
Grayl filters only last like 40gal they’re really only for emergency use
@@djames6255 GRAYL is only for clear water really while some people tend to filter all kinds of crap through their filter and complain it gets clogged fast.
Be smart about it, use prefilter.
How is the Grayl with filtering crap out of tsp water? @@1stRanger
@@djames6255 thx
I loved your honest views between the different systems. Thank you. I thought it was going to be skewed. Nice job.
Glad you liked it!
Face your bottle openings downstream when filling.
Helps to keep out larger debris flowing downstream.
I love how we have more options. Competition brings prices down.
Right out of the gate I can already tell the Grail for me is a better choice.
Because you can simply pour it into another container.
I don't want to have to suck on a straw.
I want to be able to pour the filtered water into a cup or my mouth or something as well if i choose to make food or anything really
The Lifestraw Peak Squeeze is a squeeze bottle that allows you to squeeze the water though the filter into a cup or pan. I have one and I am loving it. Might be what you are looking for!
Thx so much for r3view of either product. Im not an outdoors kinda guy but i do live in an area where i am still concerned about clean water i take in and at work too.
I dont have enough money for a full berky but maybe one day.
For now i use an zero water filter for clean cookong water and want a portable water container that filters for work and on the go.
Thx again and cheers from Michigan!
G'day Aaron, yep the whole reason I payed extra for the Grayl is its activated carbon element, otherwise I'd just take a Sawyer and an extra bottle. Btw; another contaminant to be aware of, (even in the otherwise cleanest of sources), is animal carcasses, which may or may not be still visible. Cheers Duke.
The points you bring p are exactly why I use and prefer the Grayl. Lifestraw and Sawyer type suction filters are fine for backup and survival kits where your major need is direct hydration. The Grayl exceeds that by providing purified, pourable water for drinking, cooking, cleaning a wound, and other uses where the water must be transferred.
Every suction-type filters may be set to autoflow by 2mins and cost few cents.
GRAYL could solve all of this by also offering a micro filter option with 500gal capacity. That would give you everything
That would be a great idea!
My thing about it was I was taught not to risk it and always boil your water because if you get sick you’re dead. If the Grayl removes the risk of that by purification instead of filtration that’s my go to.
Grayl. 1. Do I really want to gamble the filter misses something that's in the water? Nope. 2. The ability to pour the water into other containers, etc.
Hello from Denver, Co, love your channel brother. Came across this video today after 2 other water filter videos caught my attention and thought I'd bring them to yours as well. The first is a recent release by Dan Becker interviewing the owner of Sawyer, I learned some unique and useful information especially regarding micron size of bacteria and viruses, how they are transported and how certain filters like Sawyer filter regardless. The other is a series of videos by another Coloradan WaterFilterguru, specializing in water treatment and testing, including many of our beloved camping or overlanding filters. Both are worth checking out and sharing with your viewers. Thanks again for all you do, much love brother. God bless you.
It won’t work for cooking and coffee, GRAYL Ti all the way
Great option!
Also cost $200 but they do look handy. I just use a nesting cup with my geopress for all that.
@@colinst.claire2198 I got mine 20% off but your right, not cheap. I’m just not a huge fan of plastic.
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This life straw is nowhere near as good as the grayl... reason being ,if you pre filter your water prior to pressing it thru the grayl , the filter cartridge life us up to 10x longer .
Plus with the grayl you can FILL OTHER CONTAINERS , enabling you to fill a 3 ,or 5 litre bladder AT ONE WATER HOLE .
It's a no brainer
.grayl all the way.
I have the lifestraw bottle that came before this version and the problem is when you get down to the bottom of the water there is a decent amount of water that you can’t drink because of the way the filter is inside the bottle. Other than that and what you mentioned they are great for a get home bag.
Only reason I use Lifestraw is because I already have metal containers for boiling, and the cost is just too much for me to make that jump.
Lifestraw “straws” are always great for emergency application no matter which one you carry though IMO
How do you know when to replace the cartridges in either system without having to count the uses?
They start to have flow rate issue and then you know
@@gideonstactical ok thanks, I appreciate the help. Great review. I think for the versatility, I’m going to try the Grayl.
I have a couple of life straws and I even have the life straw adapter kit which is the system you are showing here but with a lid that fits on a nalgene bottle or one of my Klean Kanteen bottles. Really nice backup systems, but the limitation of not being able to fill up other containers or get clean water in any sort of other use besides just drinking from the bottle is why they will remain as backups. I carry a life straw everyday in my get home bag for example. But for backpacking trips my primary system remains a Sawyer filter.
Grayl is still my go-to. I use mine as an edc emergency prep. If I'm ever in an emergency situation, I'm going to be in or around cities and suburbs most of the time. The lifestraw products frankly won't cut it for my needs.
Looks okay, but I wouldn't stop using my Grayl bottles for anything. Just took them to Rocky Mountain National Park, and it was epic!
Ya totally bomb, and though this is ok Grayl for life
Thank you for your pros and cons on these 2 filtration types. I overlooked the ability to share water or use it for cooking or others. Very good points. It seems like the best solution is to have both.
I’ve used both more than I can count, what I will say is.
Life straw is for like a average hiker at a state park or something
If you’re into backpacking long camping trips in the back country I would recommend the grayl, especially in the mid west where I’m from the water is muddy etc
GRAYL does a terrible job with a muddy water. In fact it's absolutely the worst performer when it comes to muddy water. There's plenty videos on UA-cam alone about it.
Definitely grabbing the GRAYL. I'll be spending a full year in India and can't risk it. I'll even be filtering the bottled water travellers depend on to get by while there. You just never know. The higher cost for the GRAYL would be nothing compared to the cost of getting seriously sick and being potentially hospitalized. It's an investment into your health.
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Southern Ohio hiker. Be free is great for mountain streams. Grayl is needed in the Appalachian foothills due to all the past mining / current agriculture. Be sure to pre-filter your Grayl. This can be tedious, but it will work smoother / longer. I will pre-filter w a buff, run it through my be free (I have one specifically for heavy metals usage), then the Grayl. Yes it’s tedious. No, I’m not drinking lead or glyphosate. Probably.
I have the life straw and the Grayl an I choose the Grayl. The life straw takes forever to drink because you have to use more suction. The Grayl it takes me less than a minute to press the water through and I don't have to fight to drink water and the Grayl purifies vs filters.
Lifestraw. This is fine if you only need drinking water. You can’t filter and put the water in a different container. Also that 22 oz bottle doesn’t hold 22 oz when that filter is in it. Also the grayl is a purifier and the lifestraw is a filter. The sawyer filters give the versatility with cheaper filters. And sawyer offers a similar bottle. I wouldn’t waste my money on Lifestraw. In the US Sawyer is my go to. Outside of the US I would pickup a Grayl or another purifier.
The metal water bottle are not great. I bought them me thinking it would be more durable but it just gets dented when you drop it, and also the paint scratches off. The slight flex you get from the plastic is way better at protecting it
I've had the results of using a "filter" before and it isn't pleasant. They just don't get all the stuff out of the water. Thanks for the video. I now use a Grayl and will continue using it. The extra steps to get better water are well worth it.
Would this work for the water in Cuba or Mexico? We're going on a trip and thought this might be a good idea to use. Thanks
When you got to the 9 min mark is why i will stick with the Grayl...thanks for showin tho
No problem 😉
Bring both. You can get the Lifestraw without the bottle, $15.
Wow the back drop! Where is this beautiful place on earth?
What I don’t get about these water bottles is that you have to use it to scoop dirty water so every time you touch the bottle you’re contaminating your hands.
Also, if it’s taking you 30 seconds to filter your water with the Grayl it’s time change to cartridge according to them, it should take
You had me worried with that thumb nail, Aaron. I just bought a GRAYL (pretty much based on your recommendation) as I am currently with my family in a part of Asia with unreliable water..
Grayl can’t be beat in most situations 👍
Agreed Brother! 👍
Stay with grayl, love my bottle
The grail filter i use is 3 yrs old and i use it everyday.Tgr trick is prefilter water first with a bag.nust dont let the filter freeze.
Nice video, I am just looking for a water bottle to use everyday and filter microplastics from tap water. The Lifestraw is fine for me.
I’ll stick to my MSR Guardian. Yes it was stupidly expensive but it pumps super fast and will make drinkable water out of just about any source.
You just saved me some money. You validated my concerns with this system.
Watch to end to find out why Lifestraw bottle is NOT going to replace anyone’s Grayl.
Sounds like it might be a good idea to just buy both
I love that I can use the Grayl to fill my cooking pot.
You can do that with Sawyer squeeze and life straw solo. Extra weight don't bother me on my hiking I love my filter, hell we in america not Congo
So about a decade ago. Me and a buddy were talking about naked and afraid and what would the 1 item be that we would take. He said a life straw which was one of the best ideas i never thought of. I told him the life straw bottle would be better because you get a container to take with you. To bad it's not stainless so you could cook with it ect.
Grayl with an Lifestraw straw unit and a millbank prefilter. Done. Those give you plenty of options
7:40 Yes, you can with a LifeStraw Peak Squeeze or Katadyn BeFree. GRAYL has carbon element though. Something most filters don't offer. Can't speak about its effectiveness though.
The Lifestraw system will suffice for the casual hiker/ backpacker. As for myself, I'm investing in the Grayl system as it better suits my purposes.
does the lifestraw bottle version get viruses? cause i know the normal straw for them and sawyer mini don't do viruses like the Grayl does. cause having to boil the water to get viruses i would just put my sawyer mini on a platypus bag and squeeze the water into my titanium cup to boil lol. if i had the money for a grayl i would get one of the titanium ones.
side note: backcountry hikes and such that water is very likely to have viruses, not all will be an issue for us, however some can be. animals, fish, and such go to the bathroom in water sources, bodies decay in them, and more. sure chemicals and heavy metals are likely to be low, but parasites, bacteria, and viruses will likely be high. especially in areas with under water predators like say swamps with gators, also many areas have large turtles that snap up birds and fish and go under water.
The bad thing about the straw without the bottle is when you lay down by the river to get a drink and a gator blast out of the water and bites your head off. I hate it when that happens
One question how many leaks. It can be done
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Apples and oranges. Maybe a comparison between the life straw and a Sawyer. I've got the Sawyer bottle. I never use it. I use a Sawyer squeeze and a various size Klean kanteen. I use a lot of foods that need water. Brushing teeth, etc, etc.... For me personally I like having the reserves of clean water. Its worth a couple minutes of preparing to have it.
I have both.
Lifestraw in the "get-home-bag" (just for me) and Grayl in hiking pack/recon pack (resupply me and others).
Lifestraw has a use but just buy the less expensive actual lifestraw as a backup and use the grayl mug part as the water reservoir to suck from (as a backup) the replacement cartridge weighs about the same as a life straw so one can just carry a new clean grayl cartridge as a backup to a clogged dirty cartridge. You cannot make coffee, or any food with the lifestraw.
You can call me an urban treker. Purified water is a priority for me.
Thanks for a great video, 2 questions...Do we have to be worried about viruses in the water. If the grid goes down and some of the water might have sewage or other things in it, will this be a good thing to use with that if you don't know about the contamination.
The Grayl would be the right device if that were to happen.
Awesome comparison, pros and cons of both. Earlier in my life I went to other countries and Grayl would be a no-brainer. I'm old and ugly now, don't foresee leaving the coun🎉try. Probably now the lifestraw would suffice. Again, I'm mostly urban and city, rarely country.
Mostly urban and city would mean an even greater need for the Grayl capabilities if the grid -- and reliable public water and sanitation -- goes down.
You being old and ugly shouldn't make you not want to have the cleanest version of water though.
i use a standard life straw when i want to be lite on my feet chasing deer elk etc but my grayl goes everywhere too many mines where i'm from got to get those heavy metals out.
There’s pesticides in streams, maybe not all of them but one is enough. Grayl for me.
Grayl all the way for me, suits my needs better! The life straw go bottle is nice but I don't feel comfortable have it for a shtf scenario.
Just ordered a grayl, befree, lifestraw pouch, and camelbak-lifestraw for my family of four. Will give each of us a different one to try on our upcoming july trip
Nice review on the Lifestraw Go and Grayl! I am glad to see that Lifestraw changed the design of the Go. They used to make it with an exposed mouthpiece, and there was a pressure valve that would allow dirty water in the bottle to come up over the lid and onto the mouthpiece when you encountered pressure/temperature changes. This version of the Lifestraw Go looks like it would not allow that to happen, which is much safer when hiking!
For day hikes, i usually have my Hydro-Blu bottle (same concept as the Lifestraw bottle) and an extra Nalgene of water. For longer hikes or camping trips, definitely prefer the Grayl Geopress for the reasons u noted in the video. Looking for a sale and will be picking up an Ultrapress at some point. They are worth the expense, but can't just run out and pick one up on a whim.
Great review and comparison. You hit all the points. However, they both have their advantages and disadvantages. This video will not make us stop using the GRAYL forever.
I have a life straw. And a sawyer squeeze. But one day i'm gonna try one of the others out
If i were going to use a straw filtered bottoe, i'd use the epic filter/nalgene combo. I believe they claim way more stuff out...and i like the way it looks over the life straw.
Excellent for city and urban use. Save grayal for all others.
i bought both so I just transfered the already filtered water from grayl bottle into the lifestraw go bottle so its double filtered lmao haha ;)
just bought a LifeStraw, wish i bough a grayle now
I agree with you I like grayl better primarily because it purifies but I’d like to get both tbh and use the grayl for certain situations where I know the source is questionable. Use the life straw go as my main filter. You had me sold on the life straw until I realized that you can’t pour it out for pets, cooking etc. I think life straw should make a separate upscale filter that purifies water.
Lifestraw does have a cap and straw product which fits some bottles. If you can get a silicone bottle that fits the cap (the lifestraw silicone bottle doesn’t filter as much so I rather get your own) then you might be able to squeeze the water out for pets.
I do believe I’ll be buying the Greyal
I love my lifestraw 1 liter jug. I also love my bladder. Not sure what the problem with a bladder is. I like the fact that it’s centered in my backpack & it hasn’t frozen on me in my winter hikes. I hate reaching for water jugs in the side pockets of my backpack. I also like to hydrate a lot. So to me it’s easier to just grab the hose without having to stop to grab my water bottle & have a sip. I’ve seen those hose that you can attach to a bottle. That’s cool. But I rather put something else in that pouch than water.
Sooo... what about this would cause someone to want to never use the grayl system again?
Definitely think the Lifestraw has it's place and use. Especially for people who maybe live in the mountains or who are far away from any cities/agriculture/manufacturing, etc. And certainly in a pinch, it's better than no purifying/filtering at all. The Grayl does win out though in today's real world application. There is no such thing as "too cautious" when it comes to your water. When possible, people should obviously add in the step of boiling their water if they can but I know that isn't always practical.
Could you use life straw with water purify tablet or boil the water first?
Boil water first
As always, amazing clear and concise content with just the right pro/con to make an informed decision
GREAT VIDEO- issues with my Grayl, very stiff to press, and taste from the filter is prohibitive. How is the Lifestraw flavor?
No taste from my experience
Amazing product! Thanks for the review! Definitely going to buy a couple of these.
2lt bottel .Sawyer filter gravety fill .or put it direct in the water drink put straw on it drink staoght ill stick with my Sawyer bit thanks for showing
Can’t make me quit Grayl: just like you mentioned, grayl also acts like a pump-based filter and make clear water that I can put into other containers for more than drinking, e.g., cooking.
Plus, LifeStraw Go does NOT remove viruses. Grayl does. However, there is another brand that no body seems to talk about:Oko H2O. It used the same type of electro-adsorptive filter as Grayl, so it is capable of taking out viruses. But it is a straw-in-bottle design with soft bottler so you can squeeze to get a very very good flow rate, instead of sucking really hard. Much lighter too. The filter is smaller than Grayl, whose filter takes about 1/3 of the whole bottle . Costs less than 30$ on Amazon.
There is albo WaterToGo. Same type of filter but chaper and simpler.
I didn't see anything that make the Lifestraw even equal to the Grail much less better.
Good points for each system I would carry both and use the grayl only as needed.
Sawyer works for me. I dont need an internal filter. The press is cool, but the filter has a really short life.
Is there an alternative product to Grayl? I like the function of Grayl but it's a little bit pricy.
I have a membrane solutions best filter ever. It’s cheap it’s rebuildable (meaning you can get the carbon and the filter kits) then change out filter if you have a problem.
Really for $40 you get a gravity bag a hose and the filter in a bag. Then for $12-14 you can get the extra filters a 2 pack so you can rebuild or just put another carbon filter in. Really good filter.
Will the life straw screw onto the pathfinder 32oz stainless bottle?
I have a Grayl and a 2 L MSR Dromedary water bag.
Love the grail and I have a burke sports bottle.
I am a Grayl 100%, but I appreciate your review.
Awesome video! Have you ever used the Lifesaver liberty? It can also filter down to viruses, and it lasts for 2000 liters, ou something around 600 gallons!
Viruses are the most common cause of diarrhea, which can be life threatening in the woods
The Grayl can freeze. The Lifestraw cant.
I find the fill and suck or straws to be way to hard to get water. Our creeks are high in silicates and it will stop up a straw with one use. I have use the Grayl in the same streams and much prefer this method over straws or straw type devices. Not being a backpacker I use a Nalgene bottle on a carabiner and carry my Katadyn Vario in my pack. When camping in the mountains I have been able to stay out for two weeks or longer by using the Katadyn pump to fill empty gallon jugs. Bi-directional pumping is fast and efficient. When it slows down you can scrub off the silver/ceramic disc and keep going. However, for lightweight carry while hunting I would likely prefer the Gray as the Katadyn weights in at a whopping 1 1/2 pounds.
If you never used the Lifestraw, try it at home before you head out on your trip. Its actually pretty tough to pull the water through the straw, I was actually shocked how hard it was. I would never use it as my edc water bottle, its a good tool to have for emergencies. The Grayl is just to expensive, best bang for the buck is the Sawyer mini, its cheap easy to use and if you injure your mouth, the Sawyer has bladders that you can squeeze to shoot water into your mouth. The only water filter I havn't used is the brand Katadyn. Everyone that has those spoke very highly and said they are worth buying. I would buy a Sawyer (Sawyer has many filters) that fits your needs, I have one on my home faucet in the kitchen, I think I paid $30 bucks for that one, they are all pretty cheap.
The Grayl is much better. You can add the purified water to other vessels with the Grayl. You can’t stockpile water with the Lifestraw. The original Lifestraw with the Grayl is the wY to go.
Hmm.
It’s water. They’re both great!
I’ll take one of each!
-maybe 2 😊
Life straw.. at that point might as well put a Sawyer on a bottle and be done and the 1000 gallons doesn’t touch the Sawyers. But I’ll stick with my Grayl
The lifestraw in an OLD product- I had one of these bottles in like... 2014? As a lifestraw becomes more contaminated it takes more effort to suck water through. Mine lasted 1 trip. Few things suck worse than being dehydrated on an adventure and sucking for all your worth to get a sip of water. Pretty sure lifestraw and sawyer are both being sued/ have been sued for their filtration amount claims.
Grayl is still king
I had the 32oz version on a 9 day moose hunt in the backcountry. It was so much better than the sawyer I brought with me that failed halfway through. The gasket failed not the filter itself.
With the life straw don't they make an adapter that lets you put it on the top to pull the water out with a pump to fill water bottles. I believe I saw this before. My other issue is you are talking about filling other peoples water bottles. At 16 oz a pop and say you have a dog and 2 other people and you are using it for all you water because they brought no filtration system 1 trip and you having to change everything out. From what I took from the video you are talking about personal watering sources. If I need to fill more than myself I would take a sawyer water filter to fill a groups water source up. Especially a 32 oz bottle could take about 5 minutes to fill depending on if you could press it close. I do like the level of purification in the grayl but the cost I would probably just use a sawyer system.
I think you miss understood. Mainly it is for my dog or the ability to refill my water bottle quickly, possibly my sons when they are with me. The versatility if you need to.