UPDATE: According to the subreddit, we now have confirmation this is an ARG :) so no one was harmed! Bonus points if anyone counts how many times I say "ARG" in this video. Watch Next: Where is Alexander? ua-cam.com/video/u8Ihxgy2ElI/v-deo.html
I was guessing it most probably would be, as I hadn’t heard of any TikTok mass murders, fitting this description, last year ^^ I’m binge watching so I’m late to the party :(
On a more morbid note, it would be smart of a killer or criminal to conceal their crimes under a sort of ARG. Especially if they get questioned about how disturbing their videos are, and that's the reason they give. You can post your illegal activities as a trophy and almost a joke as people fail to realize how sinister things actually may be. I hope what they're posting is just a bad joke or ARG however
oh jeez....I hadn't really thought about that but it's a good point. how freaking terrifying is it to think we'd all be playing along and months down the road we see him on the news?! ugh
i am honestly surprised this doesnt happen more often. it is also extremely easy to hid yourself pretty damn well if you know what you are doing online. nothing is perfect, but you can make it one hell of a hard time for law enforcement to track you down.
Maybe this is just me but, personally its honestly a pretty bad idea for a real criminal to conceal their act under the veil of it being a ARG. If it looks real enough and if people can do enough digging, it isn't hard to find out. People are smart and will contact the authority if it turns out to be a real thing
@@donniepatt9514 it already has happened. take a look at alex from tennessee, though i'm not sure how many people really truly considered it an arg at the time.
@@HannahTheHorrible I will say one thing, it's super creative and imaginative and if he turned his attention to making a full on movie, I think I'd watch it. 👍
In my experience you are correct about it being possible to inform the police of an art project you're about to make. Two years ago during my third year at bussines college where I took media as an extra class we informed the police department in our town twice about something we needed to film. The first was an ARG I created for my class as a solo project and a short horror movie my friend and i created as our group project. The former was filmed over the course of two months all over the town and the latter was filmed at the former hospital where other people could spot us. While the police were informed about our activities they simply relayed the information to whoever reported it.
This is one of the lesser know parts of ARG's and honestly it's fascinating. Like communicating with owners of buildings, letting authorities know and getting all the relevant agreements to do your project. Its pretty cool stuff all-in-all.
I feel like when more realistic ARGs come up people seem to forget that movies exist. Like, there's so much you can do if you have props, special effects, makeup, all that. For example, I have a friend that learns how to do convincing wounds with cheap makeup supplies. She's not a professional, but in the dark they look real. Just because something is very realistic, doesn't mean it's real. And it seems to just be a well made short ARG
Yeah, there's been some amazingly convincing practical and cgi effects from the last 30 years, I'm not sure why people are like "oh that body looks so realistic it must've been a real murder". Like you said, even amateurs working on their own with cheap supplies can make pretty convincing wounds, and who knows what experience and supplies the people who make videos like that have?
Don't forget the sheer amount of people who have trouble telling the difference between reality and fiction because of things out of their control though. Like for example: children (which we all know tiktok is built off of just like UA-cam) and neurodivergent people, especially ones that disassociate a lot And while yes, it's confirmed to be an ARG and not an actual murderer there's simply just the inescapable reality that not everyone can tell and it's gonna worry said people, even if it seems stupid to people that CAN tell.
@@eldritchomen you know what you're absolutely right. I didn't think about kids and nd people when making that comment, but I should have. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@eldritchomen Most ND people can tell pretty well if something is fake or not, just as much as your average NT. There is a very wide range of mental health disorders, & it's unfair to lump us all together. Yes, someone with psychosis & delusions is less likely to realise if something is an ARG, but me with my analytic autistic brain can tell pretty well if something is fake
@@BooksandBuns I'm nd and I have trouble with it so I was talking about whag me and plenty of my non NT friends have experienced Yeah not all of us but a lot of us
Personally, I still feel it's a very short ARG/video story. The whole thing just screams of ARG tropes (even if they are rather well done at points). Cryptic messages/tags, short creepy videos playing off current trends (the painter TikTok trend), and the presentation of it all. The body tarp video definitely wouldn't be that hard to fake with the right actors and time. Still a fantastic story though. If it ends here it had a pretty good ending, but if it goes on I hope it continues to have the great atmosphere set up.
yes! I'm with you on all of that. a popular reddit quote is "it's always an ARG" and it kind of stuck with me. Very well done, kind of sad if it's his last video.
I'm super late to this cuz I just found your channel, but I still want to say, one of my pet peeves with ARGs is the "mentally unstable killer posting cryptic, dark videos online" trope, where everyone wants to be the next zodiac killer, but the thing is, an overwhelming majority of serial killers are not super intelligent yet tragically unstable geniuses that got popularized in part due to the notoriety of Ted Bundy, zodiac, etc, most actually fall below the average in intelligence, most likely because of the way their prefrontal lobes are formed. So if there was a serial killer out there posting video evidence to taunt police, they almost certainly wouldn't be shaking, drawing faces and eyes compulsively, and acting "crazy" and erratic and impulsive. It's just so hard to evade the police too long when you're impulsive and erratic like that.
when she said "a murderer would most likely not post their crimes on the internet" it made me think of the Bianca Devins case.. (the murderer of Bianca posted photos of her dead online, which you can still search for, dont search for the images if your too sensitive, theres a lot of blood.) but related to the video, the fact this was an ARG was quite surprising, it was very realistic! edit: oh and the fake body could be a friend and makeup was used to make it realistic? still dont understand how that one was done lol
There's a real one called 2 Guys and an Ice Pick, or something like that. It's disgusting The creepy murderer's (and videographer) name is Luka Magnotta. He was caught and convicted. He started out by killing kittens and uploading the videos, it upset a ton of people. No one knew who it was but there were groups of people on the internet who tried to track him down. This was back when the internet was in it's infancy.
You realize movies exist? Whats confusing about seeing a fake dead body exactly? Has everyone who said this never seen any kind of theatrical production in their entire lives or literally anything involving makeup or…
Y’all. It’s Halloween. It’s a fake series to gain followers and celebrate spooky season. Whoever it is did a freakin great job! Thanks for covering this fun story!
HannahTheHorrible I just found him on TikTok and followed his Reddit link. One of his comments says “It was hilarous. Really an odd moment for me. Ive had to talk to too many police in my life but never the FBI. It is still so surreal” haha and he explains it all! Super cool!
at the part about if it's an arg, she was saying that it would be hard to not get caught, but yet the crazy cat lady of Omegle didn't get caught and she was skinning cats and leaving clues about herself. police have tried to find her location but they can't bc of how she changes her location every week and it's not through a VPN but through her computer itself. so this could be real nowadays even if you post it on the internet. also, you should do a video about the crazy cat lady of Omegle.
In the psych ER during nursing school I met a woman mid-psychotic break who was posting the wildest stuff on social media that made no sense at all (and also nearly attacked me). Her husband told me that out of nowhere she became convinced she was being watched, people were coming to steal her organs, other classic delusions. She was posting everything on facebook plus random numbers and words that she also wrote everywhere in their house. She came in strapped to a stretcher screaming at things that weren't there, including a clone of me. She became violent when we tried to get a urine sample so security came. As a student I was keeping a distance until she broke away from the guards SPRINTING at me with her hands grabbing for my neck, screaming "DON'T LET THEM TAKE ANYTHING." I FROZE and security got her as her hands were inches from my neck. No prior history of mental illness which was the wildest part. Anyway lol since the posts stick to a story and make sense that cancels out the "crazy person" explanation for me. And the hashtags tell me they want people to see it so that cancels out real crime unless they're just the dumbest criminal ever lmao. Love your videos Hannah!
I mean, it's entirely possible that the poster is a killer and just really stupid. There was a serial killer who got caught because he asked the police if they'd be able to track him if he sent them a floppy disc. They said no, he sent one, bam dude gets caught lmao
I almost think Dennis Rader just wanted to get caught at that point. I think he was getting too old to carry out the strangulation he enjoyed, and he needed some way to get the attention he used to get with his murders.
*Person:* Hey officer, you might get 911 calls saying that I'm murdering this person, but it's totally not real and definitely an art project. *Cop:* Ok cool man, thanks for a heads up Doesn't seem like that could go wrong at all.
Yeah, I thought of that too. Sounds like a good idea for making an ARG on the surface, but would probably let real killers slip through the cracks at some point
the fact that the hashtags were so consistent to stick to a theme between videos as opposed to his erratic behaviour in the videos rlly gives it away that its fake. args use hashtags to do that exact thing all the time
When it comes to the body- rubber feet are like 5 bucks on E-bay. Some chalk pastel could give the illusion of skin and warmth or coldness. That or if the body is wearing shoes then that’s basically the easiest thing ever to do. You can get a foam head at a craft store for basically free, and you can stuff a bunch of clothes underneath the tarp into a believable human shape
Now I know that this is an ARG but it really feels like this individual is making commentary on how a schizophrenic breakdown feels very much like a possession (some times) and how a lot of people still see it as such. As someone who has schizophrenia I can see a lot of the similarities to when I’ve had my breakdowns. Eyes and faces were HUGE and still are really big for me (delusions of always being watched and people always looking at me) and faces not seeming real to the point of them almost seeming like masks. Being raised in a very religious home and going to church every week, there’s been times where, during a break down, I was prayed over to expel the demons when I really needed a doctors help. Very well done ARG.
You were questioning how the body was made for the ARG, and i think its just simple Fake blood and another person just laying limp but still alive nonetheless
Do you know this from personal experience? Lol I agree with you 100% in any event. Because people have actually done that. Which seems counterintuitive to me. But I'm not a killer so maybe there's a line of logic that only the people who would do all that can see. The idea that "no murderer wouldpost their crimes on the internet" seems like a way people try to keep themselves from seeing the harsh reality of the world. There are tons of very sick individuals out there. That's a scary thought. You could be killed and posted on the internet and still never get justice. I can see why people don't want to see that.
The Shakey hands and dramatic motions are too much. in Oregon there are LOTS of brambles and thorny bushes, he could do manual labor which would explain the scratches... On the flip side of that the P.N.W. cause many, many people to suffer depression because of the lack of sunlight. So he could be suffering. As far as the songs like 'downtown', I would assume he wants us to think that maybe that's where a abducted his victim.... Just some thought I agree it's an A.R.G..... oh I just read the comment above mine I'm late to the party
My first thought, before I knew it was fake, was how he posted (and edited) the last video if he was already nodding off. Plus it takes more than a few seconds for any drug in pill form to fully be metabolized and take effect.
It also happens that mentally disturbed people KNOW they are disturbed and play on the fact that other people will just dismiss it as a thing that said disturbed person ''would just do''. I worked with mentally disturbed people for a time and they are not stupid, most of them know what others think about them.
@@hihey_you One Man One Jar is a video of an unidentified man inserting an entire jar up his ass. Spoiler alert: the jar breaks. I haven't researched whether the video is real or fake, but either way, it's weird to watch.
I would agree that most murderers wouldn't post evidence on the internet. But there are people who would def do that. Look at the guy that killed his wife and made a video talking to his kid from the shower apologizing before he killed her. There was that guy that killed someone literally only to post it on tiktok I think. There's that girl that had her bf kill her mom who posted on Facebook about the crime. So while it's super unlikely it is more than possible that there are people dumb enough to do that. Though I agree 100% that this is probably an arg
Hi! I went to film school and let me just say that it is VERY common knowledge amongst amateur filmmakers that if you are going to film anything that could be misconstrued as illegal, violent, disruptive, etc, that you let your local police know ahead of time. In fact, in a lot of cases, the police are more than happy to offer an officer to come and monitor the set/active recording for free just so that the public can see that the police have a presence there. A lot of amateur filmmakers and film school students do these kinds of weird Internet web series, so the police are pretty used to fielding calls like that. So long as the person is in communication with the authorities and they aren't doing ACTUAL illegal stuff, it's almost always okay.
i mean, their was this one guy who was obsessed with ember from danny phantom and he documented/ live streamed his plan to kill up until right before it happened an no one stopped him cuz they thought he was fakin
Nah I think they just were too dumb to understand. Manz literally talked about his mental health multiple times and how bad it was yet his parents didn’t say or do anything about him
wow! in my opinion its like we as viewers play his/her game, feeding him/her hunger with constant attention. you know maybe wanna be famous or something more dark?! who knows :o anyway once again amazing video!
I mean, the cat skinner on tiktok still hasn't been caught (to my knowledge) purely because she used layers of vpns and she even featured in the videos. Granted she never showed her face, but still
late to the video but super interesting! i also thought you said "he showed just HARPS" i was like " what the hell do harps have to do with being creepy?!" and had to rewind lmaooo. 😂😂😂
As someone who gets hired out and works with ARG creators and indie moviemakers the "Corspe" is easy to fake. What you do is take a very small amount of magnesium and go to sleep, often you will have to do several takes because even with the sleep medication I often wake up lol. BUT I HAVE TO STRESS ONLY DO THE SLEEPING THING IF YOU TRUST THEM. Other times you have to just and try not to giggle and trust me time on sets for ARG's are so much fun and since it's often a small group of close friends and a few professionals it's a literal vibe and we all have so much fun. I didn't work on the @youshouldn'tbelooking ARG but after watching all of the videos I could find it is definitely an ARG (Sorry for any misspellings English isn't my first language)
Awesome video as usual! Thank you for being respectful even tho it is most likely an arg! Something weird that's happening tho, the video keeps stopping between 3:20 - 3:23. It isn't my Wi-Fi because other videos work fine. I can put it at any other part in the video and it plays. This hasn't happened to be before, I wonder what's up
I figured it was an ARG. I mean, it's a very effective and clever one that is certainly creepy, and, at a glance, it could seem real. But it's still too structured, too obviously mysterious to be real. It all screams, "Production!" to me. He did a great job, though, for sure. It was an interesting, weird, chilling, and odd little horror story.
CW, this comment includes mentions of someone taking someone else's life :') is it terrible that i wouldn't be surprised anymore if by some chance this really was real (I know it's not), but like... the character was from oregon.... like a decade or so ago in my hometown (southern oregon), some guy literally got beheaded on a train track WITH A KATANA THAT THE MURDERER FORGED IN HIS OWN HOME-- they were strangers!!! it happened right next to a popular bike path!! everyone in town knows the story!! just like, oof, it's not too out there i think
the butterfly in his profile could be representative. In childrens tv shows, and in the Old World, butterflies represented negative emotions, and in the Old World, were believed to be spirits of the dead. And in this story, death is an ongoing theme. With him being possessed by a spirit, a dead thing, and with the people who "died" in his videos. Because he changed his photo after his character died, it could be representing the deaths. Maybe that now, he is a spirit, and is trying to tell us this, which is why the picture changed but nothing was posted.
ok, his profile pics, i have a idea. on some pictures, you can look into it and find the exact altitude and longitude. so it might just be a little hunt!
actually many people have posted their murders. there was multiple reddit and 4 chan posts of men talking about their murders they committed, but people thought it was fake until it ended up on the news and turned out to be real
idk why i love the idea of someone having to tell the cops to not worry about them cause theyre doing an art project, cause like... yeah, thats just how it is as an artist sometimes LOL
Yeah as someone who has had breakdowns on the Internet (I'm much better now so hopefully none of that in the future) you are more likely to see people posting disturbing stuff that doesn't necessarily require a lot of artistic effort. Like posting ramblings over and over or posting just a picture of self harm. These episodes can last a long time but if something looks like there is time and effort put in it's most likely not a mental health episode. Most people who have these episodes would think twice about posting since they would then have time to calm down and reflect. The closest you could get is having a delusional episode but usually that's people directly talking to the camera about what they believe at the time. This is all too stylistic to be a mental ill health episode. It screams of arg.
@15:00 Zodiac's five "canonical" murders ended with the shooting death of taxi driver Paul Stine in the Presidio on 10/11/69. Two teenage witnesses were at the scene. On 10/13/69, the San Francisco Chronicle received a letter from Zodiac that contained a bloody piece of Stine's shirt. The following day, they received a similar letter, again with a piece of the victim's shirt, intending to "prove" that he killed Stine. I don't know that, even with today's technology, that any forensic methods would have solved Zodiac. He did leave plenty of evidence, e.g. taunting letters, ciphers, and material evidence. Who knows?
Still creepy even if it is an ARG because Downtown by Petula Clark was also played last year when the Nashville bombing happened. Happy my sister was up visiting us and not at home down there at the time.
Hey anybody remember the random suitcase that somebody found randonautica it had the body in it yo that looks exactly like it just kind of saying timestamp is 3:00 ish not to mention the suitcase was found near a body of water I'm just saying here you know I'm not actually accusing
When I first saw this I immediately assumed it was an art installation type project For shock value and views and keeping it anonymous and vague Then deleting the videos as he went as more people are getting invested and wondering if it is all true It was amazingly done tbh and it’s easy to assume this is all real
Unless there was any real evidence, anyone would be laughed out of the station. That or told to make a police report that would get shoved to the back of a box until/unless something real happened.
I think it is highly likely this is an ARG because of the way the videos are posted and how he deletes some and how disjointed the videos are. It's not going to be a very good ARG if it's too easy for people to solve. So doing what he has makes it more challenging for people to solve because there's not going to very many people who saved the videos before he deleted them. So there would only be a few people with those puzzle pieces. There's so many ways a person can make it look realistic it's like that whole twitter thing that went down with the sun vanished. That was so incredibly put together and it looked real. Me and my brothers followed this when it was actively happening we would get excited when a new tweet would come out and immerse ourselves in it. But at the time some people were actually concerned this was real believe it or not.
What if Alexander, the storage unit one and this are all in the same universe. He is the monster, or possessed by it. He stalks Alexander and is the reason for the disappearing of humanity. All of it is interlocked.
Zodiac killer probably wasn’t even that smart. The technology and forensic techniques were just bad. The BTK killer did the same thing and got away for decades but his downfall was him sending a floppy disk to the police after he asked if they can track him down with the floppy disk and they lied.
I’m leaning towards it being fake because if he really had those shaking ticks with his hands, it would be difficult to type complete hashtags. Especially on a little phone with tiny buttons. There would be more errors.
If you get taken out of a game because of a disclaimer, you should deal. I hate ARGs and would like to know before hand so I can not care if it is a game and go watch a thing about something that really happened.
The "game" part comes from the puzzles and hidden clues given throughout. It's a broken-style of storytelling that leaves clues in the "immersive storytelling" for the audience to speculate and put together. So that is generally the closest it gets to being a "game". It's a puzzle - but a very fragmented one.
Ha. Sir Soggy did an AMA.lmao This is all part of the cover up. My dude Soggy Longbottom *WANTS* us to think it's all an ARG. I'm now more convinced than ever that it was l real.
One thing that I didn't see anyone mention is that. At least for me it's very clearly fake because he??? Thecnically dies at the end??? How did he post that afterwards if he was dead. Like even if u say oh maybe someone else found his phone or the police got it or something but like. Literally why would they post that In His Account if he Was a real criminal. The only possible explination would be he was doing this w like an accomplice and that person posted that as a way to finish what he started but. He is very clearly alone through all of this so. Idk I just thought this is like a little silly and I already saw the confirmation of it being an arg but still, a little funny that no one seems to have thought of that
something concerning if it where real could be the possibility that most of these videos are pre recorder and the killer could have waited a while to leave the area and the place before posting the videos so he doesn't get associated with them irl but still get to post them ?
If he committed suicide for real, who uploaded the video? The hand drag is supposed to indicate rapid decline / onset of death so I don't think there was time to get that bad and still hit upload.
UPDATE: According to the subreddit, we now have confirmation this is an ARG :) so no one was harmed!
Bonus points if anyone counts how many times I say "ARG" in this video.
Watch Next: Where is Alexander? ua-cam.com/video/u8Ihxgy2ElI/v-deo.html
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Oh nice!
I'm gonna count how many times you say ARG brb
Edit: I counted 16, may have been more but idk. I could probably triple check just to be sure but idk.
I was guessing it most probably would be, as I hadn’t heard of any TikTok mass murders, fitting this description, last year ^^
I’m binge watching so I’m late to the party :(
fuck args they're edgy as hell
I'm totally with you but it's funny: if he's not a serial killer then he's a litterer and that's HORRIBLE
LOL
Murder: 🙄😴
LITTERING: 😧🫣🤬
i can excuse the murder but not the LITTERING!!
Murder = less people polluting earth
On a more morbid note, it would be smart of a killer or criminal to conceal their crimes under a sort of ARG. Especially if they get questioned about how disturbing their videos are, and that's the reason they give. You can post your illegal activities as a trophy and almost a joke as people fail to realize how sinister things actually may be. I hope what they're posting is just a bad joke or ARG however
oh jeez....I hadn't really thought about that but it's a good point. how freaking terrifying is it to think we'd all be playing along and months down the road we see him on the news?! ugh
i am honestly surprised this doesnt happen more often. it is also extremely easy to hid yourself pretty damn well if you know what you are doing online. nothing is perfect, but you can make it one hell of a hard time for law enforcement to track you down.
Maybe this is just me but, personally its honestly a pretty bad idea for a real criminal to conceal their act under the veil of it being a ARG. If it looks real enough and if people can do enough digging, it isn't hard to find out. People are smart and will contact the authority if it turns out to be a real thing
It will happen one day. Everyone is going to write it off as an ARG
@@donniepatt9514 it already has happened. take a look at alex from tennessee, though i'm not sure how many people really truly considered it an arg at the time.
Gotta give him credit for sticking to his gimmick. Creative, time consuming Lockdown hobby for someone wanting attention. 👍
Yup! I think he finally had to come forward and explain how it was all fake so no one called the cops on him lol
@@HannahTheHorrible I will say one thing, it's super creative and imaginative and if he turned his attention to making a full on movie, I think I'd watch it. 👍
In my experience you are correct about it being possible to inform the police of an art project you're about to make.
Two years ago during my third year at bussines college where I took media as an extra class we informed the police department in our town twice about something we needed to film.
The first was an ARG I created for my class as a solo project and a short horror movie my friend and i created as our group project.
The former was filmed over the course of two months all over the town and the latter was filmed at the former hospital where other people could spot us. While the police were informed about our activities they simply relayed the information to whoever reported it.
This is one of the lesser know parts of ARG's and honestly it's fascinating. Like communicating with owners of buildings, letting authorities know and getting all the relevant agreements to do your project. Its pretty cool stuff all-in-all.
I'm interested in making an arg how do I do this?
I feel like when more realistic ARGs come up people seem to forget that movies exist. Like, there's so much you can do if you have props, special effects, makeup, all that. For example, I have a friend that learns how to do convincing wounds with cheap makeup supplies. She's not a professional, but in the dark they look real. Just because something is very realistic, doesn't mean it's real. And it seems to just be a well made short ARG
Yeah, there's been some amazingly convincing practical and cgi effects from the last 30 years, I'm not sure why people are like "oh that body looks so realistic it must've been a real murder". Like you said, even amateurs working on their own with cheap supplies can make pretty convincing wounds, and who knows what experience and supplies the people who make videos like that have?
Don't forget the sheer amount of people who have trouble telling the difference between reality and fiction because of things out of their control though. Like for example: children (which we all know tiktok is built off of just like UA-cam) and neurodivergent people, especially ones that disassociate a lot
And while yes, it's confirmed to be an ARG and not an actual murderer there's simply just the inescapable reality that not everyone can tell and it's gonna worry said people, even if it seems stupid to people that CAN tell.
@@eldritchomen you know what you're absolutely right. I didn't think about kids and nd people when making that comment, but I should have. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@eldritchomen Most ND people can tell pretty well if something is fake or not, just as much as your average NT. There is a very wide range of mental health disorders, & it's unfair to lump us all together. Yes, someone with psychosis & delusions is less likely to realise if something is an ARG, but me with my analytic autistic brain can tell pretty well if something is fake
@@BooksandBuns I'm nd and I have trouble with it so I was talking about whag me and plenty of my non NT friends have experienced
Yeah not all of us but a lot of us
The fact she says hey humans like she's not one is way more "wtf is going on"
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Personally, I still feel it's a very short ARG/video story. The whole thing just screams of ARG tropes (even if they are rather well done at points). Cryptic messages/tags, short creepy videos playing off current trends (the painter TikTok trend), and the presentation of it all. The body tarp video definitely wouldn't be that hard to fake with the right actors and time.
Still a fantastic story though. If it ends here it had a pretty good ending, but if it goes on I hope it continues to have the great atmosphere set up.
yes! I'm with you on all of that. a popular reddit quote is "it's always an ARG" and it kind of stuck with me. Very well done, kind of sad if it's his last video.
@@HannahTheHorrible Yeah :( But all great stories have to have an ending!
(Great job on the vid btw!)
I'm super late to this cuz I just found your channel, but I still want to say, one of my pet peeves with ARGs is the "mentally unstable killer posting cryptic, dark videos online" trope, where everyone wants to be the next zodiac killer, but the thing is, an overwhelming majority of serial killers are not super intelligent yet tragically unstable geniuses that got popularized in part due to the notoriety of Ted Bundy, zodiac, etc, most actually fall below the average in intelligence, most likely because of the way their prefrontal lobes are formed. So if there was a serial killer out there posting video evidence to taunt police, they almost certainly wouldn't be shaking, drawing faces and eyes compulsively, and acting "crazy" and erratic and impulsive. It's just so hard to evade the police too long when you're impulsive and erratic like that.
when she said "a murderer would most likely not post their crimes on the internet" it made me think of the Bianca Devins case..
(the murderer of Bianca posted photos of her dead online, which you can still search for, dont search for the images if your too sensitive, theres a lot of blood.)
but related to the video, the fact this was an ARG was quite surprising, it was very realistic!
edit: oh and the fake body could be a friend and makeup was used to make it realistic? still dont understand how that one was done lol
There's a real one called 2 Guys and an Ice Pick, or something like that. It's disgusting
The creepy murderer's (and videographer) name is Luka Magnotta. He was caught and convicted.
He started out by killing kittens and uploading the videos, it upset a ton of people. No one knew who it was but there were groups of people on the internet who tried to track him down. This was back when the internet was in it's infancy.
You realize movies exist? Whats confusing about seeing a fake dead body exactly? Has everyone who said this never seen any kind of theatrical production in their entire lives or literally anything involving makeup or…
Y’all. It’s Halloween. It’s a fake series to gain followers and celebrate spooky season. Whoever it is did a freakin great job! Thanks for covering this fun story!
He did a GREAT job. I love covering stuff like this! Thank you :)
HannahTheHorrible I just found him on TikTok and followed his Reddit link. One of his comments says “It was hilarous. Really an odd moment for me. Ive had to talk to too many police in my life but never the FBI. It is still so surreal” haha and he explains it all! Super cool!
Since this is confirmed as an arg, I think it’s really funny he put That song for the suitcase video. You can’t deny you thought that was ironic
at the part about if it's an arg, she was saying that it would be hard to not get caught, but yet the crazy cat lady of Omegle didn't get caught and she was skinning cats and leaving clues about herself. police have tried to find her location but they can't bc of how she changes her location every week and it's not through a VPN but through her computer itself. so this could be real nowadays even if you post it on the internet.
also, you should do a video about the crazy cat lady of Omegle.
Oh my god I just went to check it. It’s horrible, I don’t know how anyone can do that. I’m just glad that she got caught.. ugh
@@kittcats did she get caught? I must have missed something
@@B1rdBird Her name is krystal cherika scott, she got caught but her maximum jail time only came up to seven.
@@kittcats that's way too low for her crime
thank you for defending mentally ill people. we don't want to hurt anyone and it's a very harmful stereotype that has caused deaths.
In the psych ER during nursing school I met a woman mid-psychotic break who was posting the wildest stuff on social media that made no sense at all (and also nearly attacked me). Her husband told me that out of nowhere she became convinced she was being watched, people were coming to steal her organs, other classic delusions. She was posting everything on facebook plus random numbers and words that she also wrote everywhere in their house. She came in strapped to a stretcher screaming at things that weren't there, including a clone of me. She became violent when we tried to get a urine sample so security came. As a student I was keeping a distance until she broke away from the guards SPRINTING at me with her hands grabbing for my neck, screaming "DON'T LET THEM TAKE ANYTHING." I FROZE and security got her as her hands were inches from my neck. No prior history of mental illness which was the wildest part.
Anyway lol since the posts stick to a story and make sense that cancels out the "crazy person" explanation for me. And the hashtags tell me they want people to see it so that cancels out real crime unless they're just the dumbest criminal ever lmao. Love your videos Hannah!
I mean, it's entirely possible that the poster is a killer and just really stupid. There was a serial killer who got caught because he asked the police if they'd be able to track him if he sent them a floppy disc. They said no, he sent one, bam dude gets caught lmao
BTK
I almost think Dennis Rader just wanted to get caught at that point. I think he was getting too old to carry out the strangulation he enjoyed, and he needed some way to get the attention he used to get with his murders.
The fun of ARG comes from the closure and knowing everything about it after it's done
You’re killing it Hannah! Love your content. Keep up the good work!
Thank you 😊 🖤
heh, killing it
Remember kids, nothing you post then delete on the internet is ever truly deleted. Except when the emails you send get sent to the internet blackhole
*Person:* Hey officer, you might get 911 calls saying that I'm murdering this person, but it's totally not real and definitely an art project.
*Cop:* Ok cool man, thanks for a heads up
Doesn't seem like that could go wrong at all.
That's what I thought. Though, if someone does end up dying/going missing you will probably end up a suspect.
Yeah, I thought of that too. Sounds like a good idea for making an ARG on the surface, but would probably let real killers slip through the cracks at some point
the fact that the hashtags were so consistent to stick to a theme between videos as opposed to his erratic behaviour in the videos rlly gives it away that its fake. args use hashtags to do that exact thing all the time
When it comes to the body- rubber feet are like 5 bucks on E-bay. Some chalk pastel could give the illusion of skin and warmth or coldness. That or if the body is wearing shoes then that’s basically the easiest thing ever to do. You can get a foam head at a craft store for basically free, and you can stuff a bunch of clothes underneath the tarp into a believable human shape
Now I know that this is an ARG but it really feels like this individual is making commentary on how a schizophrenic breakdown feels very much like a possession (some times) and how a lot of people still see it as such. As someone who has schizophrenia I can see a lot of the similarities to when I’ve had my breakdowns. Eyes and faces were HUGE and still are really big for me (delusions of always being watched and people always looking at me) and faces not seeming real to the point of them almost seeming like masks. Being raised in a very religious home and going to church every week, there’s been times where, during a break down, I was prayed over to expel the demons when I really needed a doctors help.
Very well done ARG.
You were questioning how the body was made for the ARG, and i think its just simple
Fake blood and another person just laying limp but still alive nonetheless
Imagine his mom walking in turns the lights on and is like william? wtf are you doing? Lmao
It would be sooooo Easy For a Real Serial Killer to Record things and Post them WITHOUT getting Caught. FACT.
Do you know this from personal experience? Lol
I agree with you 100% in any event. Because people have actually done that. Which seems counterintuitive to me. But I'm not a killer so maybe there's a line of logic that only the people who would do all that can see.
The idea that "no murderer wouldpost their crimes on the internet" seems like a way people try to keep themselves from seeing the harsh reality of the world. There are tons of very sick individuals out there. That's a scary thought. You could be killed and posted on the internet and still never get justice. I can see why people don't want to see that.
@@lolafierling2154 Agree 100 percent!
The Shakey hands and dramatic motions are too much. in Oregon there are LOTS of brambles and thorny bushes, he could do manual labor which would explain the scratches... On the flip side of that the P.N.W. cause many, many people to suffer depression because of the lack of sunlight. So he could be suffering. As far as the songs like 'downtown', I would assume he wants us to think that maybe that's where a abducted his victim.... Just some thought I agree it's an A.R.G..... oh I just read the comment above mine I'm late to the party
My first thought, before I knew it was fake, was how he posted (and edited) the last video if he was already nodding off. Plus it takes more than a few seconds for any drug in pill form to fully be metabolized and take effect.
I’ve just found your channel and I absolutely love it
Thank you so much!! So glad you’re enjoying 🖤
The suitcase one reminded me of that randonautica TikTok where those girls found body parts in a suitcase.
my first thought too
It also happens that mentally disturbed people KNOW they are disturbed and play on the fact that other people will just dismiss it as a thing that said disturbed person ''would just do''. I worked with mentally disturbed people for a time and they are not stupid, most of them know what others think about them.
18:08 "who woud be crazy enough to really hurt themselves like that just for the entertainment of the internet?"
Flashbacks to 1 man 1 jar
Oh man that video was just nasty
It looks like he's pooping blood
What’s that
@@hihey_you One Man One Jar is a video of an unidentified man inserting an entire jar up his ass. Spoiler alert: the jar breaks.
I haven't researched whether the video is real or fake, but either way, it's weird to watch.
I just pulled up the TikTok and the videos are all deleted except one. One of the comments said there was a body in one video.
All the videos are in the Reddit link in the description!
Love your channel. Can’t wait to see more!
thank you! glad you're enjoying :)
I just found a Soggy Saint channel on UA-cam with all of the videos from TikTok and Ig.
I would agree that most murderers wouldn't post evidence on the internet. But there are people who would def do that. Look at the guy that killed his wife and made a video talking to his kid from the shower apologizing before he killed her. There was that guy that killed someone literally only to post it on tiktok I think. There's that girl that had her bf kill her mom who posted on Facebook about the crime. So while it's super unlikely it is more than possible that there are people dumb enough to do that. Though I agree 100% that this is probably an arg
Hi! I went to film school and let me just say that it is VERY common knowledge amongst amateur filmmakers that if you are going to film anything that could be misconstrued as illegal, violent, disruptive, etc, that you let your local police know ahead of time. In fact, in a lot of cases, the police are more than happy to offer an officer to come and monitor the set/active recording for free just so that the public can see that the police have a presence there. A lot of amateur filmmakers and film school students do these kinds of weird Internet web series, so the police are pretty used to fielding calls like that. So long as the person is in communication with the authorities and they aren't doing ACTUAL illegal stuff, it's almost always okay.
'Grad some tea or coffee and get comfortable'
I've had a few glasses of wine already so I'm pretty comfy bingeing your channel!
That black suitcase he dumped in the river looks like the same one the girls found when they went randonauting. Y'know, the one with the body in it?
That was a real crime, they caught the man that did it a while ago
The best ARG’s are the ones that get people arguing about whether it’s real or not
i mean, their was this one guy who was obsessed with ember from danny phantom and he documented/ live streamed his plan to kill up until right before it happened an no one stopped him cuz they thought he was fakin
Nah I think they just were too dumb to understand. Manz literally talked about his mental health multiple times and how bad it was yet his parents didn’t say or do anything about him
wow!
in my opinion its like we as viewers play his/her game, feeding him/her hunger with constant attention.
you know maybe wanna be famous or something more dark?! who knows :o
anyway
once again amazing video!
Well if that’s his goal it’s definitely working! The internet is kind of freaking out about it hahah
And thank you!
There was one video of two kids attacking some random dude with a hammer, called to maniacs and a hammer, so it could be real, maybe.
The hammer was a payed actor
The video is called 3 guys 1 hammer
I mean, the cat skinner on tiktok still hasn't been caught (to my knowledge) purely because she used layers of vpns and she even featured in the videos. Granted she never showed her face, but still
late to the video but super interesting! i also thought you said "he showed just HARPS" i was like " what the hell do harps have to do with being creepy?!" and had to rewind lmaooo. 😂😂😂
Oh no! Then I didn’t articulate well enough 😂 thank you though!
I don’t think he’s saying “posses” in the videos. It sounds to me more like “What’s this? What’s this?”
That's what I heard too
As someone who gets hired out and works with ARG creators and indie moviemakers the "Corspe" is easy to fake. What you do is take a very small amount of magnesium and go to sleep, often you will have to do several takes because even with the sleep medication I often wake up lol. BUT I HAVE TO STRESS ONLY DO THE SLEEPING THING IF YOU TRUST THEM. Other times you have to just and try not to giggle and trust me time on sets for ARG's are so much fun and since it's often a small group of close friends and a few professionals it's a literal vibe and we all have so much fun. I didn't work on the @youshouldn'tbelooking ARG but after watching all of the videos I could find it is definitely an ARG (Sorry for any misspellings English isn't my first language)
Awesome video as usual! Thank you for being respectful even tho it is most likely an arg! Something weird that's happening tho, the video keeps stopping between 3:20 - 3:23. It isn't my Wi-Fi because other videos work fine. I can put it at any other part in the video and it plays. This hasn't happened to be before, I wonder what's up
Oh no. Thank you so much for letting me know!! That’s very odd. I will check it out :)
Ok I just tested it and mind stopped at 3:23 too 😂 I tried again and then it worked fine. That’s super weird.
wtf why does this only have 600 likes ????
u deserve a milion tf
Also the blood isn’t realistic. It’s wicked corn syrupy.
I figured it was an ARG. I mean, it's a very effective and clever one that is certainly creepy, and, at a glance, it could seem real. But it's still too structured, too obviously mysterious to be real. It all screams, "Production!" to me. He did a great job, though, for sure. It was an interesting, weird, chilling, and odd little horror story.
Ik it’s supposed to be interpretive but soggy sounds like such a cute name idk why 😐
CW, this comment includes mentions of someone taking someone else's life :')
is it terrible that i wouldn't be surprised anymore if by some chance this really was real (I know it's not), but like... the character was from oregon.... like a decade or so ago in my hometown (southern oregon), some guy literally got beheaded on a train track WITH A KATANA THAT THE MURDERER FORGED IN HIS OWN HOME-- they were strangers!!! it happened right next to a popular bike path!! everyone in town knows the story!! just like, oof, it's not too out there i think
the butterfly in his profile could be representative. In childrens tv shows, and in the Old World, butterflies represented negative emotions, and in the Old World, were believed to be spirits of the dead. And in this story, death is an ongoing theme. With him being possessed by a spirit, a dead thing, and with the people who "died" in his videos. Because he changed his photo after his character died, it could be representing the deaths. Maybe that now, he is a spirit, and is trying to tell us this, which is why the picture changed but nothing was posted.
ok, his profile pics, i have a idea.
on some pictures, you can look into it and find the exact altitude and longitude. so it might just be a little hunt!
Fuck I live in Oregon...
actually many people have posted their murders. there was multiple reddit and 4 chan posts of men talking about their murders they committed, but people thought it was fake until it ended up on the news and turned out to be real
idk why i love the idea of someone having to tell the cops to not worry about them cause theyre doing an art project, cause like... yeah, thats just how it is as an artist sometimes LOL
I love that the subreddit gave him the name soggy. That’s so cute. Not that the murderer is cute but I like that name.
So, a deranged, possesed man is still sane and lucid enough to run a social network. I don't know....sounds kinda sketchy 😂
Tic tock is the new Avenue for killers
Yeah as someone who has had breakdowns on the Internet (I'm much better now so hopefully none of that in the future) you are more likely to see people posting disturbing stuff that doesn't necessarily require a lot of artistic effort.
Like posting ramblings over and over or posting just a picture of self harm. These episodes can last a long time but if something looks like there is time and effort put in it's most likely not a mental health episode. Most people who have these episodes would think twice about posting since they would then have time to calm down and reflect. The closest you could get is having a delusional episode but usually that's people directly talking to the camera about what they believe at the time.
This is all too stylistic to be a mental ill health episode. It screams of arg.
This is obviously real. I mean, an ARG artist wouldn't be able to hire an actor to play a corpse.
If they are an ARG artist its possible they made a dummy/fake body
It was confirmed to be an ARG a few months ago. He probably just asked a friend or something to play dead.
a killer among us...
I looked him up on TIKTOK today (8/22/21) and all his videos are deleted. Just in case it hasn’t been documented yet.
@15:00 Zodiac's five "canonical" murders ended with the shooting death of taxi driver Paul Stine in the Presidio on 10/11/69. Two teenage witnesses were at the scene. On 10/13/69, the San Francisco Chronicle received a letter from Zodiac that contained a bloody piece of Stine's shirt. The following day, they received a similar letter, again with a piece of the victim's shirt, intending to "prove" that he killed Stine. I don't know that, even with today's technology, that any forensic methods would have solved Zodiac. He did leave plenty of evidence, e.g. taunting letters, ciphers, and material evidence. Who knows?
Still creepy even if it is an ARG because Downtown by Petula Clark was also played last year when the Nashville bombing happened. Happy my sister was up visiting us and not at home down there at the time.
The suitcase in the first one looks like the one the kids randonauting found with dead bodies in it
Luca Magnotta posted really alarming stuff on his channel before getting caught, but he did eventually get caught.
Hey anybody remember the random suitcase that somebody found randonautica it had the body in it yo that looks exactly like it just kind of saying timestamp is 3:00 ish not to mention the suitcase was found near a body of water I'm just saying here you know I'm not actually accusing
What the du-Duckery
I-
Definitely an interesting theory, but the murderer has been caught. Idk if he's been charged with the murders tho.
When I first saw this I immediately assumed it was an art installation type project
For shock value and views and keeping it anonymous and vague
Then deleting the videos as he went as more people are getting invested and wondering if it is all true
It was amazingly done tbh and it’s easy to assume this is all real
Hannah: faces and eyes are very important to this story
Me, who is painting eyes on my jeans: 👀😬
All of these ARG’s are interesting. However, it would make sense for them all to be in the backrooms.
Them: You should't be looking
Also them: click this video cause it's posted, you should be looking the whole world should..
Right 😂
Dude, criminals write down their crimes all the time; most criminals are pretty stupid.
Why has Noone showed this to the police, so they can investigate, just in case it's real?
Unless there was any real evidence, anyone would be laughed out of the station. That or told to make a police report that would get shoved to the back of a box until/unless something real happened.
I hope if it's an ARG he fished the stuff out of the water so it doesn't mess with it too bad
guy unalived himself in that last video and then posted it on tiktok from the grave
I think it is highly likely this is an ARG because of the way the videos are posted and how he deletes some and how disjointed the videos are. It's not going to be a very good ARG if it's too easy for people to solve. So doing what he has makes it more challenging for people to solve because there's not going to very many people who saved the videos before he deleted them. So there would only be a few people with those puzzle pieces. There's so many ways a person can make it look realistic it's like that whole twitter thing that went down with the sun vanished. That was so incredibly put together and it looked real. Me and my brothers followed this when it was actively happening we would get excited when a new tweet would come out and immerse ourselves in it. But at the time some people were actually concerned this was real believe it or not.
Hmm. Johnny The Homicidal Maniac, but make it set in the internet era instead of the early 90s.
What if Alexander, the storage unit one and this are all in the same universe. He is the monster, or possessed by it. He stalks Alexander and is the reason for the disappearing of humanity.
All of it is interlocked.
if he dumped that suitcase in the water he obviously went to get it out of the water.. right..?
Zodiac killer probably wasn’t even that smart. The technology and forensic techniques were just bad. The BTK killer did the same thing and got away for decades but his downfall was him sending a floppy disk to the police after he asked if they can track him down with the floppy disk and they lied.
I’m leaning towards it being fake because if he really had those shaking ticks with his hands, it would be difficult to type complete hashtags. Especially on a little phone with tiny buttons. There would be more errors.
all, ALL the videos were deleted but the account still there
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How exactly would one post a Tiktok if they are dead.
i understand that he is most likely doing horrible things, but you gotta have respect for him! he was listening to Tool!
"a killer among us"
A dark song by tool....so 90% of them? :]
If you get taken out of a game because of a disclaimer, you should deal. I hate ARGs and would like to know before hand so I can not care if it is a game and go watch a thing about something that really happened.
Is no one considering that, if the artist offed themselves on camera in their last episode, that they wouldn't be able to able to post the video?
I'm really late but can someone explain ARG to me? Like how is it a game as opposed to super immersive storytelling?
The "game" part comes from the puzzles and hidden clues given throughout. It's a broken-style of storytelling that leaves clues in the "immersive storytelling" for the audience to speculate and put together.
So that is generally the closest it gets to being a "game". It's a puzzle - but a very fragmented one.
Doesn't tick tock have a policy about making fake videos and posting them?
Ha. Sir Soggy did an AMA.lmao
This is all part of the cover up. My dude Soggy Longbottom *WANTS* us to think it's all an ARG. I'm now more convinced than ever that it was l real.
How would he upload the video if he committed….
Probably didn’t
yeah but wait.....which Tool song?? LOL
One thing that I didn't see anyone mention is that. At least for me it's very clearly fake because he??? Thecnically dies at the end??? How did he post that afterwards if he was dead.
Like even if u say oh maybe someone else found his phone or the police got it or something but like. Literally why would they post that In His Account if he Was a real criminal. The only possible explination would be he was doing this w like an accomplice and that person posted that as a way to finish what he started but. He is very clearly alone through all of this so.
Idk I just thought this is like a little silly and I already saw the confirmation of it being an arg but still, a little funny that no one seems to have thought of that
something concerning if it where real could be the possibility that most of these videos are pre recorder and the killer could have waited a while to leave the area and the place before posting the videos so he doesn't get associated with them irl but still get to post them ?
Alan tutorial type of beat
If he committed suicide for real, who uploaded the video? The hand drag is supposed to indicate rapid decline / onset of death so I don't think there was time to get that bad and still hit upload.