If u dont know whats happening - this is a university built car. Me and my guys from university also tried to participate at this one. We spent a lot of time, money and our resources to build a FE car. We was 3rd at Russia, but failed our quali to european series. We finished 21nd while it was 20. This car at video is sick, saw this one perfoming. We will try our best at 2021 season to fix our mistakes and build a new car, they also promise us bigger budget, even tho we dont have huge sponsors like RB. Maybe we ll apply for more carbon details. Later, Germany. UPD: Well corona f*cked up everything :( still hoping for P.S. Still faster than F1 Ferrari 2020
idk, for me it looks like the guy in the video is going really far away from some of the cones instead of inches away from touching. It actually really bugged me. Perhaps he doesn't know the width of the car.
Wow 😳 - I was on the UW formula SAE team back in 1992, when we used a fuel injected Honda CBR 600 engine with a turbocharger (modified/custom intake & exhaust, etc.). And I thought that was fast!
Guys he learned the track thoroughly so he is already used to it so he is able to react to it. It’s not like he is reacting to the track live and going of off purely vision
That's not what I saw. It appears he/she got lost/forgot the next sequence twice in the first run and once more in the second. It was a sloppy set of runs and the driver needs to learn to backside those cones and they would cut a couple seconds off their time.
He is not used to it. He memorizes track beforehand yes, but he only gets 1 trial run and then last try to make good time. ((We saw those 2 laps here, trial and the last try))
@@ianbudgetrc2574 I was literally just about to say 'hope those Marshall's have a good lateral jump' 😂 rallycross was sketchy back in the day when the track would be laid out on wet grass, stock tire classes were basically an automotive slip and slide
Warum fährt Formula Student nicht auf Kart Stecken? Bis man diese Strecke richtig drauf hat, dauert es doch Ewigkeiten 😀. Und welche Kriterien kommen neben den Zeit noch in Betracht um zu Gewinnen ? Oder geht es nur um die Zeit ?
Das wird wohl damit zusammenhängen dass es sein könnte dass manche Teams sich einen Vorteil dadurch verschaffen dass diese die Kartbahnen vorher mieten um ihre Autos speziell auf diese vorzubereiten, die Fahrer könnten sich also einen unfairen Vorteil verschaffen. Außerdem sind die meisten Events gerade deshalb auf großen Grand-Prix Strecken, weil dort einfach die Infrastruktur bereits besteht 100+ Teams unterzubringen :D Kartstrecken wären spannend, aber man muss aber auch dazu bedenken dass diese etwas weniger Auslauf haben als die abgestellten Strecken auf dem bsp. dem Hockenheimring. Das letzte was man will ist dass einem die Mühle bei 80Kmh auseinanderbricht und man frontal in nen Betonpfosten fährt... Die Formula-Student ist auf 1000 Punkte bewertet und auch wenn ich mich nicht mehr richtig erinnern kann wie die Punkte insgesamt aufgeteilt sind sind die Disziplinen : Endurance (~200-300 Punkte), AutoX wie hier gezeigt und Skidpad als Dynamische Disziplinen, wobei man Efficiency auch noch dazuzählen kann. Dann gibt es aber auch noch statische Disziplinen wie Design (Warum hat man was wie und wo gemacht), Cost-Event (Alle Kosten sollen dokumentiert sein) und Business-Plan (ein virtueller BP wird erstellt um das Auto in einer theoretischen Kleiserie zu verkaufen). Es kommt also nicht nur darauf an wie gut das Auto fährt... Es gab bereits Teams die teilweise schlechter gefahren sind als ihre Konkurrenten, sich aber auf das Podium gebracht haben indem sie sich gut auf die Statischen Events vorbereitet hatten und so dort einen Haufen Punkte ergattert hatten.^^
@@SacUnDruz German is my third language, so I am not going to write a comment in that. I am thinking about joining my university formula team, but the tracks between the cones are really bugging me. Why dont they use tarmac tracks for kartcross? It is basically the same thing. This way it is very unatractive for potential viewers. I think the machines that people working on them make are extraordinary, it would be very cool to see them in a proper race. Or isn´t the racing license an issue?
@@AdamPetr the FS is not about racing, it's about learning the engineering, marketing and everything that is connected to a project like this. Thus, the dynamic disciplines are meant to show the dynamics of these cars. Moreover you spend a LOT of time on designing and building a car - most parts are self made and there are not a lot of spare parts because of cost and time. Wheel to wheel would be too risky as there is always contact. Also you are not allowed to have a racing license to keep the playing field level. These events are the height of a season. After months of "sweat blood and tears" you finally can present your very own creation and show everyone what you came up with. It's a great experience and definetly worth it. And then a track made of cones won't bother you at all anymore ;D There are a lot of other reasons why they keep it on this "level" but I hope you get what I'm saying.
@@mnh1270 nah not exactly, ik formula 1 is the toughest... just felt this formula student track is so confusing and small... so felt like difficult... I was being sarcastic there
The fastest he goes is about 80 kmh at 1:32. Now imagine going more than 3 times that speed at 260-300 kmh on average. That's how fast f1 cars are. And you gotta take insane turns while maintaining that speed.
There is sooo much room for improvement in this lap holy sh*t. I know these are engineering students who are building these cars ( I was part of the Rutgers Formula aerodynamics team for a little while).
Weirdly enough I have just one question... Does the aero on the car really gives a big benefits in lap time ? I mean at such low speed, I'm wondering if the aero parts are really useful
They really are. It affects and influences greatly on how the car handles, specially accelerating and turning. It also helps with cooling the car depending on how well you design it. Aerodynamics is a seriously difficult subject. But the short answer to your question is yes. Plus, in this kind of competition, Formula Student, the participants are also ranked by the level of engineering of the car. So, if it's more well engineered and contains several aerodynamical features that are well documented, they perform better on the competition, because it also evaluates the project, not only the performance on track.
I think it's more on the tire grip, suspension, and the car's overall weight. Aero won't play much role when the driver only takes the corners at 30 to 40kph
Here in EU universities make a car to compete each season. But it's very bs because some universities have huge sponsors like Red Bull in Austria so imagine the fairness of the competition lmao SOURCE: I've actually worked in the car of my uni. When I say unfair I mean both budget and r&d wise. But it's a fun thing to work on while you study
xYoshiLP there is no speed limit, just power limit for ev cars. Doesn’t make much sense to opt for more top speed on these tight tracks. You rather go for acceleration
@@ranchu8385 we do it in the united states and other countries too. It was actually started at my university (UT Austin) but the combustion team is kind of mediocre at this this point. Not sure about electric since I stepped away from FSAE to go work on a nasa project.
@@tilmandohrenbusch2402 alles nur spaß ✌ hatte ich mir schon gedacht. Jemand der Namen plus Leistung der Motoren drauf hat, kriegt kwh gerade noch hin ;) Aber die Orga / Technik-Witze werden halt nie alt 😬😬
there really isnt a racing line when it comes to a tiny track with cones. if he hits a cone his lap gets deleted so hes trying to go as fast as possible in the middle so he doesnt run wide
@@johnganggang9992 The wide lense makes this look narrower than it is. What I'm talking about is most obvious in the "chicanes", the driver starts turning well after the apex of the first corner and then doesnt straighten out until well after the apex of the second corner, as if trying to stay centred on the track on purpose. You've only got to take an extra 6 inches of racing room to maintain an additional 10mph through those corners. You'll also keep the car more settled and not have the loss of grip that was happening after each chicane.
@@TwoTwoFourSix The track is about 2 car widths wide. Not to mention that making aggressive steering inputs to stay 'centred' on the track is far more likely to cause you to unsettle the car and hit a cone (like nearly happened just after the start). If you let the car flow through the corners, it'll be easier to driver and much faster.
@@joaopedrosambatti2474 that's a good point man. But you're Merc would still take off halfway through Mulsanne. 🤣 Just kidding, my Brazilian fella. I think the downforce doesn't still compensate for the weight but those guys are the engineering students not me. Thanks for your kindful feedback. 👊🏿
Hi ! The aerodynamics of this car produce around 500N of Downforce at 16 m/s and only have a weight of 12kg. Of course we calculate and simulate if the aero is worth its weight. :)
You can’t really put too much of a price on it as they’re just one-off cars designed and built by students of each school/organization entering the competition.
0:42-0:45 the mistake they made was the violent and late braking in the chicane, and flooring the throttle. In doing so, the torque rapidly increased causing the back wheels to decimate any and all grip/downforce on the car. When accelerating, imagine the throttle as having an eggshell underneath, and treat it with extra care Coming on the throttle to prevent it from cracking.
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Me thinking damn this is the longest pit lane ever
🤣🤣 nice👍
LMFAOAOO It just clicked, your a goat 😂
Damn he nearly S🅱️inalla in the first lap
S🅱️inotto is that u
*s🅱️innala
I would get lost after 5 seconds
I can't make out the track while he is driving...insane
that's probably because of UA-cam compressing the video making it all pixelated, in real life it would be far easier to navigate the track.
i found it easy to follow
It's funny because if you watch the speed indicator he's going slower than a regular car in daily commute.
Seems very fast though.
@@andresilvasophisma cuz the track is far tighter than daily commute and in normal situations ppl would be going like 30kmh
GODLEVELOF NOOB dunno where you live but in the countryside I regularly do 90
After one lap:
Bono! my tires are gone!!
If u dont know whats happening - this is a university built car. Me and my guys from university also tried to participate at this one. We spent a lot of time, money and our resources to build a FE car. We was 3rd at Russia, but failed our quali to european series. We finished 21nd while it was 20. This car at video is sick, saw this one perfoming. We will try our best at 2021 season to fix our mistakes and build a new car, they also promise us bigger budget, even tho we dont have huge sponsors like RB. Maybe we ll apply for more carbon details. Later, Germany.
UPD: Well corona f*cked up everything :( still hoping for
P.S. Still faster than F1 Ferrari 2020
good luck next year
Lmao still fast than ferarri
@@user-hr2zy7ct8h thx
Hey if you want a driver tell me i drive for parolin pole postion my Dream is to be a F1 driver
Это в Москве такое проводится?
Gran Turismo coffee break challenges are getting out of hand
Not a single cone was hit tho
I wish they give these car a wider track
that's the point
Some tracks are a little bit wider, for example the Barcelona FS track
Like the touge in japan.
@@kavin_kumar no, that's totally not true
idk, for me it looks like the guy in the video is going really far away from some of the cones instead of inches away from touching. It actually really bugged me. Perhaps he doesn't know the width of the car.
if i did this track, i would be nicknamed the cone collector
It’s so hard to tell where the track is and all that. It’s just so easy to oversteer or understeer. Scary but he made it through, what a champ.
Wow 😳 - I was on the UW formula SAE team back in 1992, when we used a fuel injected Honda CBR 600 engine with a turbocharger (modified/custom intake & exhaust, etc.). And I thought that was fast!
Guys he learned the track thoroughly so he is already used to it so he is able to react to it. It’s not like he is reacting to the track live and going of off purely vision
That's not what I saw. It appears he/she got lost/forgot the next sequence twice in the first run and once more in the second. It was a sloppy set of runs and the driver needs to learn to backside those cones and they would cut a couple seconds off their time.
They only know the track from a 1 time walkthrough...
He is not used to it. He memorizes track beforehand yes, but he only gets 1 trial run and then last try to make good time. ((We saw those 2 laps here, trial and the last try))
These people just standing there like those little cones are going to stop it from hitting them lol
At least they can just jump over that low rider if it's about to hit them lol
@@ianbudgetrc2574 these things are about a meter and a bit tall. They have to have a roll hoop that extends over the head of the driver
@@T-tb8ho well at least I can still jump higher than that 😂. Idk with those marshalls tho
@@ianbudgetrc2574 I was literally just about to say 'hope those Marshall's have a good lateral jump' 😂 rallycross was sketchy back in the day when the track would be laid out on wet grass, stock tire classes were basically an automotive slip and slide
Idk how it looks that great as if he was at 260km/h
Fastest he went was like 75
@@ethanpalmer2125 because there are no long straights
@@welch1284 and because the track is extremely narrow
I know right, fantastic driving on their part
Perspective
Warum fährt Formula Student nicht auf Kart Stecken? Bis man diese Strecke richtig drauf hat, dauert es doch Ewigkeiten 😀. Und welche Kriterien kommen neben den Zeit noch in Betracht um zu Gewinnen ? Oder geht es nur um die Zeit ?
Das wird wohl damit zusammenhängen dass es sein könnte dass manche Teams sich einen Vorteil dadurch verschaffen dass diese die Kartbahnen vorher mieten um ihre Autos speziell auf diese vorzubereiten, die Fahrer könnten sich also einen unfairen Vorteil verschaffen. Außerdem sind die meisten Events gerade deshalb auf großen Grand-Prix Strecken, weil dort einfach die Infrastruktur bereits besteht 100+ Teams unterzubringen :D Kartstrecken wären spannend, aber man muss aber auch dazu bedenken dass diese etwas weniger Auslauf haben als die abgestellten Strecken auf dem bsp. dem Hockenheimring. Das letzte was man will ist dass einem die Mühle bei 80Kmh auseinanderbricht und man frontal in nen Betonpfosten fährt...
Die Formula-Student ist auf 1000 Punkte bewertet und auch wenn ich mich nicht mehr richtig erinnern kann wie die Punkte insgesamt aufgeteilt sind sind die Disziplinen : Endurance (~200-300 Punkte), AutoX wie hier gezeigt und Skidpad als Dynamische Disziplinen, wobei man Efficiency auch noch dazuzählen kann. Dann gibt es aber auch noch statische Disziplinen wie Design (Warum hat man was wie und wo gemacht), Cost-Event (Alle Kosten sollen dokumentiert sein) und Business-Plan (ein virtueller BP wird erstellt um das Auto in einer theoretischen Kleiserie zu verkaufen). Es kommt also nicht nur darauf an wie gut das Auto fährt... Es gab bereits Teams die teilweise schlechter gefahren sind als ihre Konkurrenten, sich aber auf das Podium gebracht haben indem sie sich gut auf die Statischen Events vorbereitet hatten und so dort einen Haufen Punkte ergattert hatten.^^
@@SacUnDruz Danke für die Antwort 😀
@@julienlamy1937 Büdde ;) Hast ja 8 Monate drauf gewartet xD
@@SacUnDruz German is my third language, so I am not going to write a comment in that. I am thinking about joining my university formula team, but the tracks between the cones are really bugging me. Why dont they use tarmac tracks for kartcross? It is basically the same thing. This way it is very unatractive for potential viewers. I think the machines that people working on them make are extraordinary, it would be very cool to see them in a proper race. Or isn´t the racing license an issue?
@@AdamPetr the FS is not about racing, it's about learning the engineering, marketing and everything that is connected to a project like this. Thus, the dynamic disciplines are meant to show the dynamics of these cars. Moreover you spend a LOT of time on designing and building a car - most parts are self made and there are not a lot of spare parts because of cost and time. Wheel to wheel would be too risky as there is always contact. Also you are not allowed to have a racing license to keep the playing field level.
These events are the height of a season. After months of "sweat blood and tears" you finally can present your very own creation and show everyone what you came up with. It's a great experience and definetly worth it. And then a track made of cones won't bother you at all anymore ;D
There are a lot of other reasons why they keep it on this "level" but I hope you get what I'm saying.
Man this is more difficult than formula 1😂
How do you know?
@@mnh1270 nah not exactly, ik formula 1 is the toughest... just felt this formula student track is so confusing and small... so felt like difficult... I was being sarcastic there
@@mnh1270 bruh
The fastest he goes is about 80 kmh at 1:32. Now imagine going more than 3 times that speed at 260-300 kmh on average. That's how fast f1 cars are. And you gotta take insane turns while maintaining that speed.
@@Stelassin sir, i diagnose you with r/whoooosh
Holy shit, its like watching my kids on Mario Cart.
What were the times?
The dude at 3:17 will be part of Ferrari Academy
That looks fun as hell
The moment when you hit the cone
"Ouu yeaaah, ouu yeaaaah"
coffee break moment
Looks like he's ready for his class c :)
There is sooo much room for improvement in this lap holy sh*t. I know these are engineering students who are building these cars ( I was part of the Rutgers Formula aerodynamics team for a little while).
Wer ist hier nach Felix seinem Bericht?😂
Monaco: nobody can overtake here.
Formula student track: hold my beer.
Weirdly enough I have just one question...
Does the aero on the car really gives a big benefits in lap time ?
I mean at such low speed, I'm wondering if the aero parts are really useful
They really are. It affects and influences greatly on how the car handles, specially accelerating and turning. It also helps with cooling the car depending on how well you design it. Aerodynamics is a seriously difficult subject. But the short answer to your question is yes.
Plus, in this kind of competition, Formula Student, the participants are also ranked by the level of engineering of the car. So, if it's more well engineered and contains several aerodynamical features that are well documented, they perform better on the competition, because it also evaluates the project, not only the performance on track.
@@Matt-dz3xe nice answer thank you man !!
@@JeffVlimant no problem!
I think it's more on the tire grip, suspension, and the car's overall weight. Aero won't play much role when the driver only takes the corners at 30 to 40kph
The last seasons car from the University i go to, generated 200kg of downforce at 90km/h
That looks like fun
that save at 0:42 though
"Nice exam ! You've passed for the next grade!"
is this a takedown formula E car?
idk lol
Here in EU universities make a car to compete each season. But it's very bs because some universities have huge sponsors like Red Bull in Austria so imagine the fairness of the competition lmao
SOURCE: I've actually worked in the car of my uni. When I say unfair I mean both budget and r&d wise. But it's a fun thing to work on while you study
nope the acceleration is insane just below 2 sec 0-100kmh (0-60mph) but they are limited to 110kmh (68mph) due to regulations
xYoshiLP there is no speed limit, just power limit for ev cars. Doesn’t make much sense to opt for more top speed on these tight tracks. You rather go for acceleration
@@ranchu8385 we do it in the united states and other countries too. It was actually started at my university (UT Austin) but the combustion team is kind of mediocre at this this point. Not sure about electric since I stepped away from FSAE to go work on a nasa project.
The way you caught yourself when the brakes would lock up/ you would just lose grip I’m not sure which one but you are very good
Goddamn coffee break flashback from GT4
Which Is the app he uses to measure speed?
Does the car have to be electric for this series?
So damn cool
Da wäre mehr drin gewesen, schade
Como ele/ela sabe onde está indo??? Nem dá para ver os cones. Olha que eu sei pilotar( humildade 😄) mas eu acho que iria errar.
Parabéns!!!
I was a little disappointed that your G meter timing was wrong. Seemed like it was delayed... hard to tell though.
every year,a new Vatteri Bottas came to life in this place
can I get the motor and battery spec information???
4x 36kW Fisher Motor on each wheelhub
LiCoO2 air cooled accumulator with a nominal capacity of 6,5 kW/h
Tilman Dohrenbusch - sag mir jetzt nicht wirklich, dass du Kilowatt PRO Stunde geschrieben hast 😧
@@Deutschmaschine0 ach er hats wenigstens versucht 👍 Gehört wohl zur Orga und nicht zur Technik 😬
@@theMG90 Ja da hab ich mich vertippt, hätte lieber mal den technischen Leiter fragen sollen :)
@@tilmandohrenbusch2402 alles nur spaß ✌ hatte ich mir schon gedacht. Jemand der Namen plus Leistung der Motoren drauf hat, kriegt kwh gerade noch hin ;) Aber die Orga / Technik-Witze werden halt nie alt 😬😬
It's like the driver is trying as hard as possible to avoid anything that resembles the correct line through corners 😂
there really isnt a racing line when it comes to a tiny track with cones. if he hits a cone his lap gets deleted so hes trying to go as fast as possible in the middle so he doesnt run wide
Wtf are you talking about lol, there are no lines when the track is car length + some wide
@@TwoTwoFourSix these are uni students you gotta remember that
@@johnganggang9992 The wide lense makes this look narrower than it is. What I'm talking about is most obvious in the "chicanes", the driver starts turning well after the apex of the first corner and then doesnt straighten out until well after the apex of the second corner, as if trying to stay centred on the track on purpose.
You've only got to take an extra 6 inches of racing room to maintain an additional 10mph through those corners. You'll also keep the car more settled and not have the loss of grip that was happening after each chicane.
@@TwoTwoFourSix The track is about 2 car widths wide. Not to mention that making aggressive steering inputs to stay 'centred' on the track is far more likely to cause you to unsettle the car and hit a cone (like nearly happened just after the start). If you let the car flow through the corners, it'll be easier to driver and much faster.
Cool
Samir you are breaking the car.
So no ones talking about that recovery at 0:42? That’s was insane
u missed 3:17
did he try to INERTIA DRIFTO at the beginning there? sick car ngl...
Nice driving.
Isn't this the Hockenheimring?
التنظيم مسار الحلبة ومع أفراد الطاقم والتوجيه ممتاز جدا
اما السباق تحطيم رقم القياسي الجولة الثانية افضل من جولة الاولى...
♥️🇸🇦♥️
Thats an really realistic game!
Is this a test for F1
These guys are quick
*Gran Turismo: Coffee Break*
when qualifying is about to end in 1:28 seconds but your fastest lap time is 1:30.
What kind of engine is that
Graphics look pretty decent
The GT4 license tests are real :0
So vettel did this?
Macht das Spaß?
Is this a game?
Second was way better than the first one
Nice car for a university's student
Gotta be honest I steered the car the wrong way a few times in my mind.
Omg those things are fast
3:16
"you know what dk stands for?"
Where is the dynamic racing line
Grojean cant pass this bet
Ericsson will hit him.
cringe
ImTcheck ye sure
i played this game as a kid at school
Ayyy uni of bath represent ;)
this is what i call a driving school
Ok, you got your license
This guy is insane
Why does it even have aero if most of the corners are 40km/h or slower?
If you make the aero big enough, it will have a really good effect
@@joaopedrosambatti2474 that's a good point man. But you're Merc would still take off halfway through Mulsanne. 🤣
Just kidding, my Brazilian fella. I think the downforce doesn't still compensate for the weight but those guys are the engineering students not me. Thanks for your kindful feedback. 👊🏿
Hi ! The aerodynamics of this car produce around 500N of Downforce at 16 m/s and only have a weight of 12kg. Of course we calculate and simulate if the aero is worth its weight. :)
@@tilmandohrenbusch2402 awesome! Thanks pall. ♥️
The track looks like my whole problems in real life.
its game or real?
The 2nd driver is soooo much better. What a difference. The first one is driving like a normal person would. The 2nd one is carrying speed.
I can't do this track on Bicycle and this guy is going on 100kmph
@Theoorzn Have you ever considered the olympics?
Hes going 50
@@rajs4012 hahaha
Waiting for him/her in f1
This is similiar to Gran Turismo licenses you were 0.050 seconds of gold the first time but got it the second time gg
I counted 3.5 second quicker after warm tyres! Not bad for autocross.
How much would they be to purchase
You can’t really put too much of a price on it as they’re just one-off cars designed and built by students of each school/organization entering the competition.
@@Ren_1090 oh, ok
👍thanks anyway
Ну полигон сдал! ,Когда город будет.?
Holly shit! And i thought that i am a good driver :D :D
My grandparents telling me how they went to school:
Why not use a normal karting track?
Loads of people go to these events you need the capacity of a proper circuit you just don't need the full track.
Why such a narrow course?
The narrower the harder so you will get skill you wouldn't get at wide track. That's my guess.
Ok. Time to coffee break...
Sounds fast but it’s quite slow.
Nice. But tons of oversteering. It seems front-heavy. No downforce on the back
0:42-0:45 the mistake they made was the violent and late braking in the chicane, and flooring the throttle. In doing so, the torque rapidly increased causing the back wheels to decimate any and all grip/downforce on the car. When accelerating, imagine the throttle as having an eggshell underneath, and treat it with extra care Coming on the throttle to prevent it from cracking.
Breaking too late and turning in too late
Woah this game looks realistic. RTX has gone too far
Is this how you get to formula
no, you need to be lance stroll or lucky
I Am Sekou its not like hes wrong
@I Am Sekou but he is right. U cant enter it without a rich background
@oof o but u still have to be driving Cart since u are a little kid. Thats nothing a poor family and many middle class can handle
Damn pulling 2.7Gs in a FSAE car. 😮
Are you winning son?
The track is too tight to be useful for evaluating car performance.
Rich af
that little thing is pulling 2+ lateral G's.....
Welcher 2 jährige hat den die Streckenführung gebaut 😂😂😂😂
Yooo this shit is good 2.8G
lol, his tires are gone after the first lap