Here in the USA we actually finally started our own professional rugby league back in 2018. I think it would be cool to see an episode on the MLR stadiums to bring more attention to the league. Keep up the awesome work
Been to most of these. Would love to see the grounds no longer used for NRL, like Redfern, Belmore, Henson... Also the country grounds where NRL goes, like Bathurst, Mudgee, Cairns....
AAMI is an amazing stadium, though it looks more like clouds made out of golf balls. And Carrot-Crunch Rabbitohs would be a kick-ass breakfast cereal! Another terrific video.
Nice video! I have been a rugby league fan for almost half a year now, and it's great to see all the grounds covered in a single video! I think you missed Belmore Sports Ground for Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs though
Been waiting for this one! I know it might not be the most popular but please can you do Rugby League Championship stadiums. I loved the super League one!
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums Great, thank you so much. I'm looking forward to it already. I love the commentary on them and I want to hear your view on my team's ground, Odsal Stadium (Provident Stadium)
Fun fact. Townsville is named after a bloke named towns and he visited the place once and built or funded a shop and in exchange they named it after him. I’d have gone townston or something like that but. Townsville it is.
Belmore Sports Ground is another Ground of the Bulldogs. It's not used often, in fact I went to the last match held there which was against Storm in 2019 (Storm won :D) But there is a game going to be held there this year.
Bye the way the CBD club is actually South Sydney. The reason why the Roosters are called the Sydney Roosters are called that is because when the Rabbitohs were kicked out for 2 years and took their territory and the city name. So a lot of Non - Sydney based team supporters think that the roosters territory is the city.
The CBD is around Martin Place in the city. South Sydney is south of Sydney, the south part gives it away. Redfern Oval was Souths home ground, at Redfern. The Roosters were the Eastern Suburbs Roosters, the eastern suburbs of Sydney. Souths kept their territory because they were still in the NSW cup, like Newtown and the North Sydney Bears. And yes the roosters suck.
CommBank stadium is Parramatta eel's home ground and the other teams are borrowing it. The stadium is in Parramatta so it's the eel's home same place as Cumberland oval and Parramatta stadium 🏟️
Got some of the worst rugby stadiums in the world and some of the best. Wish they made more rectangular stadiums with stands closer to the field. Stadiums like Accor stadiums are terrible to watch football at you are so far away from the field and they are always empty except for huge games. We desperately need more stadiums like Bankwest rectangular with about 30k and really steep seating.
because they local base stadiums -these are mostly in Sydney. A lot of Sydney based teams are only 10-20km away from each other so its pointless building massive stadiums for a team thats so close to a rival team. If you look at AFL (aussie rules) stadiums-they dwarf pretty much all NRL stadiums holding 60k plus people
Difference between team success Panthers are #1 now and they are getting a new stadium. Similarly because Wests Tigers have been shit for so long our stadiums never get upgraded.
Wish NZ took a note from Australia and build decent looking 27-30k stadiums like Comm Bank, Cbus, AAMI, Townsville that suitable to our population. Its embarrassing what we have atm.
Hi. I love your videos! I was curious if you have ever thought about doing Test cricket stadiums by country, becuase all teams seem to have about 10 that they use semi-regularly?
I have been meaning to do something along those lines. I'd probably have to give England and Australia a miss, because I've already done videos for the BBL and the Hundred, which covers most of them. Thanks for the suggestion.
I love my Cronulla Sutherland Sharks I actually live a few metres from the first oval the Sharks used in Sutherland hence the name Cronulla Sutherland Sharks
Just like the nafl, ide love to listen to/watch an nrl match, but living in the USA it’s next to impossible to because all matches are in the wee hours of the morning
Wait you can’t tell there’s actual NRL fans in North America how did you get into the sport? I support the NFL myself instead of going for one of the stereotypical teams like the Patriots, Packers or Cowboys or the Rams who won the Super Bowl last year I got for the Chargers hope we go well in the play-offs
Every time you come back to the simplicity of “I am God also, I choose experience”, once you get back to that simplicity, it frees up a lot of energy to actually have experience, rather than try to understand what experience is. It’s not about getting to the other side. It’s about how I am in this moment taking that next step, no matter what the outcome is.
Perth or Adelaide don't have very big Rugby League fanbases they follow AFL instead. Also the problem is Perth is almost double the distance across the country compared to New Zealand.
Bugs bunny cereal 🤣 the goat paddocks are the old Sydney club grounds traditionalists cling to. Manly fans won't travel anywhere but the dump known as Brookvale. Leeichart is stuck in the 1940s but is close to the action so people love it for 3 games a year. Kogarah needs a bulldozer, and the list goes on.
Mate Commbank Stadium is Parramatta Eels home ground in Parramatta. Tigers and Bulldogs occasionally use it. and this year The Panthers are apparently using it as their New Stadium gets built. CommBank Stadium = Parramatta Eels Home 😏
Great vid. It's hard to think of Penrith as part of Sydney, as it doesn't seem contiguous. I was in Manchester five years ago,if you just walk over a bridge, you have crossed into another town / city ( Salford). Cronulla's new stand looks a bit weird. Hard to see what they're doing there.
In Australia "cities" aren't really thought of in a political sense, like City of Manchester; rather the city is considered the whole urban area. So places like Oldham and Stockport would be considered part of Manchester if "cities" in the rest of the world were measured as Australia does.
I think Wembley should host an average NRL game 🤔 don’t want to upset the regular season so how about a deciding game 3 state of origin? That would work !! 😄
@@crazyforcoffee5950 🤔 nah ! Rugby League play at Wembley and have done for many many years , the challenge cup I’m talking about , so for League Wembley is more appropriate than a Union venue but hey all would be fine for a state of origin
Ah the NRL My favourite tackle or hit of all time in any code !! step forward Steve Matai for his tackle on Dave Tyrell as brutal a shot as there has ever been !
You forgot Belmore sports ground. The real home of the Canterbury Bankstown bulldogs. The doggies have been Jumping from stadium 🏟 to stadium 🏟. It's like a cheap ass friend couch surfing for the last 20 years between his friends. Essentially the Bulldogs are homeless. Due to the greed of the big wigs that have the power.
Mt Smart is a terrible stadium. Warriors need a new stadium but people are too scared to leave that area due to the connection to the area so even if NZ builds a world class Union & League stadium in the city as was once proposed there will be people opposed to it.
@@peterpiper831 its an industrial area with narrow roads and nowhere to park except for on the roads or dedicated pay parking at nearby businesses, traffic can be very bad if its a full stadium so you have to park far from the stadium to avoid getting stuck as the closer you are you will get stuck in traffic. Its dark & gloomy also with not much lighting on the streets so after a night game your walking back to your car in the cold and dark
@@peterpiper831 with how shit the Warriors have been at times throughout their history yeah you do lol. But as i said the team has its identity in the surrounding suburbs as so many of the season ticket holders live quite close and during normal season games theres always plenty of parking as its not so busy. Its just an old worn down stadium that to be honest is in line with many of the NRL clubs whos stadiums are third rate in comparison to other stadiums overseas
man its so annoying with the warriors and just league in general in NZ it would be so good if there was just one game of rugby, over here its just union dominating while league gets hardly anything nothing
Wow. Mate you truly have not a clue. First of the rank, Leichardt Oval. 20, 000 capacity? You've never been there mate. And "A stone's throw from the ocean because Sydney " Nup. If you'd said Sydney Harbour, well okay. Oh and btw WIN Stadium in Wollongong? It's nowhere near the Pacific Ocean either. A stone's throw from the Tasman Sea? Yep. If your arms good enough. I'm just wondering, how many of these grounds have you actually been to? Or is this just interweb search info for an interweb video? I could go on but...
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums . Oh so kind of you. Liechart Oval is a looonng stone's throw from the Parramatta River. And the best part of 10 kilometers West of Sydney Heads. Which marks the entry to the Tasman Sea. Which is a part of the inter- connected open Ocean/Sea/Gulf etc
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums Which comprises the total surface area of the Earth covered by salt water. So not to be too nitpicky, can you really throw a stone 10 kilometers? Bloody good luck to you if you can.
Ah the NRL aka NSW and Queensland league with a New Zealand friend. A league so inept at expansion that I’m honestly shocked a team like Wests hasn’t folded.
Here in the USA we actually finally started our own professional rugby league back in 2018. I think it would be cool to see an episode on the MLR stadiums to bring more attention to the league. Keep up the awesome work
These are 2 different types of rugby. MLR play rugby union. NRL PLay rugby league. In Australia, super rugby would be the same rugby as MLR
MLR is rugby, not rugby league
North. Qeenland. Are. Be. Comes. Into. At. Sydney. Sadism. In. Rooster 🐔
Rugby league is a different and faster sport than rugby
WIN Stadium in Wollongong is one of the most scenic stadiums in the world
Been to most of these.
Would love to see the grounds no longer used for NRL, like Redfern, Belmore, Henson...
Also the country grounds where NRL goes, like Bathurst, Mudgee, Cairns....
Great how you are doing Aussie sports leagues and not leagues that you've probably never heard of. Great VIDS!
i don’t understand this comment
no one outside of Sydney has heard of rugby league
the rugby league is soft. defenders have to give 10meters 6X cant strip cant challenge at the play the ball. league sux
@@trent3727 no
@@trent3727 "League only played in sydney"
This is despite there being 2 other videos on this channel of Rugby League stadiums in UK and France...
That background music at the 7:45 mark is the best. Very relaxing
AAMI is an amazing stadium, though it looks more like clouds made out of golf balls. And Carrot-Crunch Rabbitohs would be a kick-ass breakfast cereal! Another terrific video.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?-Rabbitohs supporter Russell Crowe
Well their home team are the Melbourne Storm so it would make sense that their stadium is in the shape of clouds😂😂
Nice video! I have been a rugby league fan for almost half a year now, and it's great to see all the grounds covered in a single video!
I think you missed Belmore Sports Ground for Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs though
Been waiting for this one! I know it might not be the most popular but please can you do Rugby League Championship stadiums. I loved the super League one!
It has already been recorded and should be up in 10 days or so.
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums Great, thank you so much. I'm looking forward to it already. I love the commentary on them and I want to hear your view on my team's ground, Odsal Stadium (Provident Stadium)
Fun fact. Townsville is named after a bloke named towns and he visited the place once and built or funded a shop and in exchange they named it after him. I’d have gone townston or something like that but. Townsville it is.
Now I'm curious about Bougainville in Papua New Guinea. A bogan must have built a shop there and got the island named after him.
There was a Townsville in a cartoon series my daughter used to watch. Power Puff Girls ???
Belmore Sports Ground is another Ground of the Bulldogs. It's not used often, in fact I went to the last match held there which was against Storm in 2019 (Storm won :D) But there is a game going to be held there this year.
Cool vid, FYI Sydney is also a place in Sydney, meaning the actual skyscraper area and it’s outer regions of the city, if that makes any sense
Thank you for your work, I truly enjoy all of your videos.
Thanks for watching! I enjoy making them.
Really enjoyed this sunshine tour to the good the bad and the ugly of NRL Australia rugby grounds!
shark park actually backs on to Botany Bay, not the ocean. Same for Leichhardt oval with the harbour
Bye the way the CBD club is actually South Sydney. The reason why the Roosters are called the Sydney Roosters are called that is because when the Rabbitohs were kicked out for 2 years and took their territory and the city name. So a lot of Non - Sydney based team supporters think that the roosters territory is the city.
Qeenland
Figures ...
The CBD is around Martin Place in the city. South Sydney is south of Sydney, the south part gives it away. Redfern Oval was Souths home ground, at Redfern.
The Roosters were the Eastern Suburbs Roosters, the eastern suburbs of Sydney.
Souths kept their territory because they were still in the NSW cup, like Newtown and the North Sydney Bears.
And yes the roosters suck.
Thanks for another great video, fond out for good info on few of the stadiums.
So many different stadiums/ballparks in the world that... It's insane
Great video mate I love your channel and love the fact you’re Australian! Often your videos are the highlight of my day!
I'm glad to hear it. Thanks for watching!
Another great video from a great channel. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the videos! Keep up the Good work and Have a good day!
Thanks for watching!
love the vids, especially with that bg music. I'll see you at the Van Donge and de Roo premiere, adults only ofc
Thanks! I think the premiere will be cancelled though. Will Smith was supposed to play the role of Van Donge.
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums maybe that's what caused him to lose it
CommBank stadium is Parramatta eel's home ground and the other teams are borrowing it. The stadium is in Parramatta so it's the eel's home same place as Cumberland oval and Parramatta stadium 🏟️
The NSW government owns CommBank Stadium, yeah parra gets to use it but other clubs and sports also make use of the ground.
LOVE YOUR WORK!!!! THANK YOU!!!
Thanks for watching!
Penrith Stadium is probably my favourite of the suburban grounds. I really hope the new version manages to keep the soul of the place...
Could you please do the Major League Rugby (MLR) stadiums, the professional level of North American rugby union
Got some of the worst rugby stadiums in the world and some of the best. Wish they made more rectangular stadiums with stands closer to the field.
Stadiums like Accor stadiums are terrible to watch football at you are so far away from the field and they are always empty except for huge games.
We desperately need more stadiums like Bankwest rectangular with about 30k and really steep seating.
‘Like a tropical holiday in the form of plastic, befitting of the Gold Coast’ made me lol
The difference between some of these stadiums is night and day. Some look like major pro venues, while others look more like minor league stadiums.
because they local base stadiums -these are mostly in Sydney. A lot of Sydney based teams are only 10-20km away from each other so its pointless building massive stadiums for a team thats so close to a rival team. If you look at AFL (aussie rules) stadiums-they dwarf pretty much all NRL stadiums holding 60k plus people
Difference between team success Panthers are #1 now and they are getting a new stadium.
Similarly because Wests Tigers have been shit for so long our stadiums never get upgraded.
@@xXSinForLifeXxif you have multiple stadiums, you’re unlikely to get any upgraded.
thanks for sharing. this might need an update, a few stadiums have since opened
Out of all these stadiums I haven’t been to 3
Wish NZ took a note from Australia and build decent looking 27-30k stadiums like Comm Bank, Cbus, AAMI, Townsville that suitable to our population. Its embarrassing what we have atm.
What about Belmore sports ground
What about Carrington Park in Bathurst for Penrith
1:08 I swear I thought you said G.I. Joe Stadium.😅
great video mate!
Cheers!
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums I love how you put abit of humor into your videos and you're not just monotone and reading out boring statistics.
Hi. I love your videos! I was curious if you have ever thought about doing Test cricket stadiums by country, becuase all teams seem to have about 10 that they use semi-regularly?
I have been meaning to do something along those lines. I'd probably have to give England and Australia a miss, because I've already done videos for the BBL and the Hundred, which covers most of them. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums fair enough about England and Australia. Thanks for replying.
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums would be interesting!
3:23 is this the stadium of the team which caused the current Australian prime minister to soil himself at engadine McDonald's in 1997
Yep.
It was 1998.
Ewwwww............... McDonald's
Please do the lower leagues of the nrl like the nsw Canterbury cup or the Queensland league.
Can you please do some College Baseball stadium videos (atleast the main conferences Sec, ACC, Big 12, etc?) Would be really appreciated
I love my Cronulla Sutherland Sharks I actually live a few metres from the first oval the Sharks used in Sutherland hence the name Cronulla Sutherland Sharks
Just like the nafl, ide love to listen to/watch an nrl match, but living in the USA it’s next to impossible to because all matches are in the wee hours of the morning
You can watch them delayed
@@xXSinForLifeXx where?
@@paulkowald4057 on the nrl official channel
Wait you can’t tell there’s actual NRL fans in North America how did you get into the sport? I support the NFL myself instead of going for one of the stereotypical teams like the Patriots, Packers or Cowboys or the Rams who won the Super Bowl last year I got for the Chargers hope we go well in the play-offs
Me on the first stadium:
Ah, the home of robbery (iykyk)
Every time you come back to the simplicity of “I am God also, I choose experience”, once you get back to that simplicity, it frees up a lot of energy to actually have experience, rather than try to understand what experience is. It’s not about getting to the other side. It’s about how I am in this moment taking that next step, no matter what the outcome is.
So the NRL has a team in Auckland, NZ but non in Perth or Adelaide? That's kinda lame. Great videos, all of them! Thank You.
Yeah, Australian Rules Football dominates in Perth and Adelaide. Same with Melbourne, but it's a much bigger city. Thanks for watching!
There used to be but they where kicked out of the NRL
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums bring back the mighty Rams.
Perth or Adelaide don't have very big Rugby League fanbases they follow AFL instead.
Also the problem is Perth is almost double the distance across the country compared to New Zealand.
Can you do the stadiums in Portugal, Netherlands and Belgium?
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Can you do NASCAR Stadiums next?
".... Wind assisted..."
hahahaha
This dudes commentary is hilarious
Bugs bunny cereal 🤣 the goat paddocks are the old Sydney club grounds traditionalists cling to. Manly fans won't travel anywhere but the dump known as Brookvale. Leeichart is stuck in the 1940s but is close to the action so people love it for 3 games a year. Kogarah needs a bulldozer, and the list goes on.
2:46 Didn't appreciate the West Tigers dog shots lol wtf 😂😂
Can you do the rugby league World Cup stadiums
And what about the Gabba stadium in Bribane
The AAMI looks like a load of cold war era radar domes.
Dude you’ve just been pumping out quality, consider unhideing that sub count?
Finally.
Gotta love bubble stadium
Mate Commbank Stadium is Parramatta Eels home ground in Parramatta. Tigers and Bulldogs occasionally use it.
and this year The Panthers are apparently using it as their New Stadium gets built.
CommBank Stadium = Parramatta Eels Home 😏
8:18 the Powerpuff Girls disagree
Me and the Powerpuff Girls have never seen eye to eye.
Only been to McDonald jones stadium 💙❤️
Do the MLR stadiums
No mention of Belmore?
Wait, the city of Townsville? Like from the powerpuff girls?
Need to do Aussie Rules AFL Video!
I already did it a while back.
4:12 ayyyy
Great vid. It's hard to think of Penrith as part of Sydney, as it doesn't seem contiguous. I was in Manchester five years ago,if you just walk over a bridge, you have crossed into another town / city ( Salford). Cronulla's new stand looks a bit weird. Hard to see what they're doing there.
Cheers!
In Australia "cities" aren't really thought of in a political sense, like City of Manchester; rather the city is considered the whole urban area. So places like Oldham and Stockport would be considered part of Manchester if "cities" in the rest of the world were measured as Australia does.
New Zealand???
What about TIO stadium that hosts, parramatte, cowboys and broncos,
There's a couple of venues that look little better than goat tracks
Central coast stadium ?????
Where is ammi park and the dock land for melbourne storm
International rugby league stadiums/fields
THAT was a bit confusing given that most teams are in the western part of the country and a few have several stadiums they play in!
Eastern part. Get what you mean, though. Several mergers and shared venues.
@@clemfandango619 Oops, sorry that Equator messes up my Directional finder in my head. Love to see more stadiums from around the world! 😉
It was complicated massively during the Super league war in the late 90s
I think Wembley should host an average NRL game 🤔 don’t want to upset the regular season so how about a deciding game 3 state of origin?
That would work !! 😄
Well, they've played in America before. But it was a 4th match after the series had been completed.
Playing at Twickenham in England or Murrayfield in Scotland would be better as they are designed for rugby. Wembley is more for soccer.
@@crazyforcoffee5950
🤔 nah !
Rugby League play at Wembley and have done for many many years , the challenge cup I’m talking about , so for League Wembley is more appropriate than a Union venue but hey all would be fine for a state of origin
Shout out to the Eels , Bunnies and Panthers👍
Roosters not so much 🤔
Only people with High IQ’s can qualify as a Sydney Rooster fan. 🐔💪🏼
@@weststigers1879
What’s an IQ ? 🤔
Should do the vfl stadiums
I will be making a video soon that includes a lot of them.
Please do the Bunnings NPC.
Where is belmore sports ground for the bulldogs
Ah the NRL My favourite tackle or hit of all time in any code !!
step forward Steve Matai for his tackle on Dave Tyrell as brutal a shot as there has ever been !
I think Leichhardt is the best place to watch the footy
You forgot Belmore sports ground. The real home of the Canterbury Bankstown bulldogs. The doggies have been Jumping from stadium 🏟 to stadium 🏟. It's like a cheap ass friend couch surfing for the last 20 years between his friends. Essentially the Bulldogs are homeless. Due to the greed of the big wigs that have the power.
Pretty good, but they need more giant sauce bottles
Not every team is lucky enough to be sponsored by a sauce manufacturer.
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums why didn't you include sauce bottle stadium?
Suncorp Stadium does indeed have the best atmosphere.
Nothing like a full stadium on an Origin night.
So no berth for a team in Perth? No team has it made in Adelaide?
And there's surely no team in Kalgoorlie.
They did when Rupert took over
There was a team in Adelaide and Perth.
Perth is 4000km away from Sydney double the distance of New Zealand. Also both Adelaide and Perth are huge AFL city's and don't support the NRL.
Looks like a Perth team could be the 18th with the bears looking to make it back into the competition
DO AFL stadiums
Qeenland. Times
Perth stadium for Origin
Qeenland
My dad writes this guy's jokes
Tell him I'll have his money by Wednesday.
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums ur OK. I'm just jealous. Keep doing what ur doing & building views & subscribers
Super rugby stadiums?
l like panthers stadium which is blue bet stadium
Sydneyn stadium Central Coast stadium Wollongong stadium Newcastle stadium
Wait red bull is a place in New York....? Questioning my existence I can’t lie
Yeah. Who knew?
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums what a strange world we live in next thing I know I’ll be getting told maccas is a place in the Maldives.
Commbank is not bulldogs is stadium
Mt Smart is a terrible stadium. Warriors need a new stadium but people are too scared to leave that area due to the connection to the area so even if NZ builds a world class Union & League stadium in the city as was once proposed there will be people opposed to it.
Is Mt.Smart in a bad area...for transport ??
@@peterpiper831 its an industrial area with narrow roads and nowhere to park except for on the roads or dedicated pay parking at nearby businesses, traffic can be very bad if its a full stadium so you have to park far from the stadium to avoid getting stuck as the closer you are you will get stuck in traffic. Its dark & gloomy also with not much lighting on the streets so after a night game your walking back to your car in the cold and dark
@@stevel9627
I had no idea, thanks for that.
You've really gotta be a dedicated supporter to go there.
@@peterpiper831 with how shit the Warriors have been at times throughout their history yeah you do lol. But as i said the team has its identity in the surrounding suburbs as so many of the season ticket holders live quite close and during normal season games theres always plenty of parking as its not so busy. Its just an old worn down stadium that to be honest is in line with many of the NRL clubs whos stadiums are third rate in comparison to other stadiums overseas
man its so annoying with the warriors and just league in general in NZ
it would be so good if there was just one game of rugby, over here its just union dominating while league gets hardly anything nothing
New Dolphins team coming in 2023
New. Qeenland. Times. Are. Be. Comes. At Noth. Western. Sadism. We. Marking. Bega. Games
Wow. Mate you truly have not a clue.
First of the rank, Leichardt Oval.
20, 000 capacity? You've never been there mate. And "A stone's throw from the ocean because Sydney "
Nup.
If you'd said Sydney Harbour, well okay.
Oh and btw WIN Stadium in Wollongong? It's nowhere near the Pacific Ocean either.
A stone's throw from the Tasman Sea? Yep. If your arms good enough.
I'm just wondering, how many of these grounds have you actually been to?
Or is this just interweb search info for an interweb video?
I could go on but...
The Tasman Sea is part of the Pacific Ocean. But geography is not really the main point of this channel, so I'll let you off.
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums .
Oh so kind of you.
Liechart Oval is a looonng stone's throw from the Parramatta River.
And the best part of 10 kilometers West of Sydney Heads.
Which marks the entry to the Tasman Sea.
Which is a part of the inter- connected open Ocean/Sea/Gulf etc
@@TheWideWorldofStadiums
Which comprises the total surface area of the Earth covered by salt water.
So not to be too nitpicky, can you really throw a stone 10 kilometers?
Bloody good luck to you if you can.
@@tonymarsh8436 10kms by Australian standards is shorter than a bee's dick
Brookvale Oval. Greatest patch of grass on the planet.
Ah the NRL aka NSW and Queensland league with a New Zealand friend. A league so inept at expansion that I’m honestly shocked a team like Wests hasn’t folded.
it's because we had backwards leaders beforehand, vlandys wants a Perth team or a png team
Australian refs cheats