Carter was In my district as I attended Bryan Adams High in the mid 90s. This teams culture of dominance still loomed over high school sports and the consequences of these acts still loom over Dallas in a lot of ways. It just makes me sad that the critics got to be right that time. This team was unthinkably talented. Could have dominated many leagues. This documentary will gut you
Grade fixing to win and robberies that were let go when the community knew. All for winning football. What a corrupt community and vicious criminals. Don’t be disillusioned by a left winged documentary.
You do know that IN REAL LIFE, these guys had their championship revoked right? Due to a player who was academically ineligible? Oh and six of their former players thought it was a good idea to commit a robbery and ruin their lives and the reputation of the school. That's right. If you play for Carter high and scouts from Universities know you play there, you have a target on your back. That's their legacy.
@@jetblach you do know the intelligible player thing turned out to be a lie they just took because of the robberies still one of the greatest teams of all time and that's over with a few players from Dallas Carter made it to the pros and live good lives
@@chicken1262 Permian should have beat them that year. Carters final drive was an incomplete pass that dropped and called a reception. Watch the tape. It was clearly a drop
@@chicken1262it wasn’t a lie. It was whitewashed grade fixing. Period. The guy flunked and they took over grade books. Then went thug running with armed robbery and community and school cover ups until they couldn’t cover up anymore. What a joke.
My mom graduated from Dallas Carter in 1990, she told me whenever she mentioned Carter at her first few jobs, the people responding to her only knew about the robberies. Sad reputation of her high school.
@@deandreray3500 Their movie showed them doing robberies too. From watching their movie I still don’t get the point of getting caught up in robberies. They were going to college and they came from middle class families. It was just stupid
Well, their portrayal in the film was inaccurate. The armed robbery by six of their players was omitted and news of the revocation of their state title was omitted (due to an a player deemed academically ineligible). Woke Hollywood decided not to reveal the whole truth about Carter High.
I’m class of 2024 at DeSoto High School, I was scrolling through yearbooks and saw our score with this exact Carter Team. I was surprised DeSoto even hung with them.
I was going to the high school in the next town over from where the high school is. And when all of this happened, our school was suppose to take their place in the state high school playoffs. We found out on a Wednesday night that they were disqualified. The team had to do a quick practice to get ready for their first around game that weekend. The school had to set up everything including the pep rally real fast. Then in the middle of the school day, we all found out that Dallas Carter was reinstated. All of the students did a mass walk out for one hour to demonstrate against this. None of us were surprised when everything went down with them.
Something similar happened to my high school (in ‘98, long before I went there), but was just before the state championship game. The way I’ve had the story told to me is my school lost in the state semifinals. So they spent most of the next week cleaning/putting up all the equipment. Then either late Thurs or early Fri, they get word that the team they lost to in the semifinals (Katy HS) had been DQ’d for playing an ineligible player during their regular season. So the coaches had to scramble to get all of the equipment issued back out to the team, and put together some sort of a practice. Needless to say, Midland Lee kicked their 💩in to the tune of 54-0.
@JazminePaden1012 exactly they claim they didn't want to ask there parents for money why not get a job they had a habit shooting dice..they had the opportunity to do something great to throw it away for some fast money
These guys were the "villain" team in Friday Night Lights btw. Of course, ESPN made a sympathetic documentary about the armed robber state champs in 2017 and blamed their actions on racism
I'm not sure we watched the same documentary. It didn't blame their actions on "racism" It showed how these kids thought they were invincible due to the hysteria surrounding the team and made some tragically bad choices...REALLY bad choices. I personally loved the "villian" role they had in Friday Night Lights and I enjoyed how this documentary showed what was going on with one of the most talented yet ill-fated teams ever in high school football.
@@TheOrator7 So you didn't hear the fact that they were playing the race card when the kid failed his card? They acted like the Dallas super attendant board had a thing against black people. It was a good doc all in all. But not everything can be blamed on Racism.
@@TheOrator7are you kidding? They talked of how the armed robber convicts looked like “slaves in chains” and blamed whites for their grade fixing and lies. They cut so much corruption by that community out of the documentary that it proves what the left really is about. Stoking race flames to deflect their 50 years of left winged policies with no results. Must be racism from the ether.
@historybuff6715 And they sued. Then won right? Won as in they got to play right? The teacher definitley was the "anonymous" tip. Funny thing is Miles made a similar claim about the doctor that said his knee was done. Nobody batted an eye at that...
They deserved to be stripped. That Carter team arguably shouldn't have been eligible to play. That said the 88 Carter team is still an ATG high school team to this day.
@@DontDrinkthatstuff you don't punish everyone for a few. Race was definitely involved in this especially since they were the first predominantly black school to win a title.
As a senior HS in ‘88, living only miles away from Carter High-I lived through this. It’s a great documentary, however the proposed “racism” by some of those interviewed in this piece is beyond incorrect. Anne Williams makes claims of signs being in the stands reading “Hang all Ni**ers”simply did not happen. Saying the arrest of these kids was like “slavery” is a disservice to so society and shows how people truly try to insult your intelligence. Don’t let them succeed. On the positive side many of those athletes and parents of display contriteness and complete accountability in this film, which is commendable. It just shows that those with an agenda then still hold that agenda. Those who were involved realize, have paid for, and mostly have improved as people. But please, allow reality to be just that. This story has NOTHING to do with racism, so watch this with an open mind and take whatever lessons from it you will. As lessons is what should be learned from this film.
@@Runningitthroughyou Towns, yes. However many of the accusations from the Dallas school board is ridiculous. I lived though this and that stuff would have been front page news all over the place had it been true. That is my point.
Sounds about white . America was born on violence and racism against black people . We didn't create racism of COLOR or this ATMOSPHERE but guess who did tho 🤔😳
they didn't get life sentence, they all served less than 10 years in prison. if they didn't rob like 20 stores they would've went to college and be in the NFL. And if Gary Edwards did his school work they wouldn't strip Carter high of the state championship
d0narroyo thier original sentences were life sentences thank god they only had to serve 10 years I understand as do they that had committed crimes but they punishment was relentless also due to they fact of a entire city aiding and bedding them to think that they were above the law
@@skylerhardy1327 they werent life sentences. u might want to go look up what "concurrent" means. and it's not as if they all got drunk or high one night and went out and did something stupid. they committed 21 robberies over 6 months. they all deserved to go to jail.
They deserved to be stripped of the title. Not only that but in Friday Night Light when the ball hit the ground. That really happened. Permian got screwed in that game and DC shouldn't have been in the championship game
Sounds about white . America was born on violence and racism against black people . We didn't create racism of COLOR or this ATMOSPHERE but guess who did tho 🤔😳
These dudes weren’t “thugs” and “monsters” like the movie claimed them to be. That’s my biggest problem. Everyone is talking about it’s not about race or whatever. But I’m white. And it was predominantly white coaches calling for David w carter high school to not even play in that game. And I mean it was a huge controversy but then the uil reinstates them to play? Makes no sense. Lmao. What about exposing Permian for exploiting these kids for fame. Like all Texas football does. But man, I mean even people in Permian if you look up the interview they did a Brian chavez he even said in his city it was racially devided carter was a middle class community in the late 80s. And times where WAY different then they are now. Why punish the whole team of carter. I mean it protartys ALL OF THEM as thugs. Even in the movie when we were kids. We all thought that they were thugs and nasty monster people.. and in the game you’d see the kids hurting the other players on the team on the movie. That’s my problem
Our run of the mill white leftist stoking the race flames as usual. They were thugs. Armed robbery which involves putting a gun to one’s head qualifies you as such. And not to mention the school and community knew and covered it up as long as they could. Let us not forget the grade fixing and death threats to an honest teacher. His books were burned and doctored. He said as much. The left in this country makes up their own narrative.
At the end it was true what other school districts said. They weren’t very smart. I didn’t think it was fair for the preacher’s son to avoid prison. He was just as guilty but because his dad was a preacher he got off the hook.
@Emontre waters by your definition that could be true but a mistake can also be a making a bad judgment call or falling for peer pressure. Now I’m not condoning what they did in just saying to call them ruthless thugs and say they are worthless is pretty messed up considering how when it’s other people doing things like this or worse they don’t get called those type of things
@@daniellee9328 I mean yeah they ruined there careers. But at least they have owned up for it and changed there lives around. They didn't kill anybody. But they didn't hurt anybody or kill anybody. Not condoning what they did. My point is current nfl players have done much worse things and are still in the NFL.
Wow. Hairy legged white liberal girl to the rescue. Over 20 armed robberies aren’t typical, kid mistakes. What a joke you people are. Speeding at 50 mph in a 30 mph zone is a mistake. Holding guns to people’s heads and stealing their labor is not. It’s a thuggish crime. Period.
Carter was In my district as I attended Bryan Adams High in the mid 90s. This teams culture of dominance still loomed over high school sports and the consequences of these acts still loom over Dallas in a lot of ways. It just makes me sad that the critics got to be right that time. This team was unthinkably talented. Could have dominated many leagues. This documentary will gut you
Grade fixing to win and robberies that were let go when the community knew. All for winning football. What a corrupt community and vicious criminals. Don’t be disillusioned by a left winged documentary.
All of them rapists but why
Really inspiring how this football team overcame racism to commit nearly two dozen armed robberies.
Smh sad ash but at the end of the day god give you a chance to right your wrongs
The sad part was from the movie it seemed like they came from middle class families
If this movie is accurate, the coach preached non stop about choices. He even told one player there are no rewinds. SMDH😔 Complete idiots.
Not really to me the movie seemed like carter was definitely from lower class and urban neighborhoods in the city @@kavaniawilson860
“Got some for you too Goldilocks”, while pointing at Billingsley. Without a doubt my favourite line from the carter team in the movie.
You do know that IN REAL LIFE, these guys had their championship revoked right? Due to a player who was academically ineligible? Oh and six of their former players thought it was a good idea to commit a robbery and ruin their lives and the reputation of the school.
That's right. If you play for Carter high and scouts from Universities know you play there, you have a target on your back. That's their legacy.
@@jetblach you do know the intelligible player thing turned out to be a lie they just took because of the robberies still one of the greatest teams of all time and that's over with a few players from Dallas Carter made it to the pros and live good lives
@@chicken1262 Permian should have beat them that year. Carters final drive was an incomplete pass that dropped and called a reception. Watch the tape. It was clearly a drop
@@chicken1262it wasn’t a lie. It was whitewashed grade fixing. Period. The guy flunked and they took over grade books. Then went thug running with armed robbery and community and school cover ups until they couldn’t cover up anymore. What a joke.
@chicken1262 BS. Carter cheated. They were the best team but they cheated to get that kid through.
One of the best 30 for 30 stories!! Great team so sad and heartbreaking for Dallas Carter
My mom graduated from Dallas Carter in 1990, she told me whenever she mentioned Carter at her first few jobs, the people responding to her only knew about the robberies. Sad reputation of her high school.
Am I the only one who remembered them from Friday night lights?
Vangundy no that’s why their movie was made it had them all wrong
It depicted armed robbers wrongly lol
@@deandreray3500 Their movie showed them doing robberies too. From watching their movie I still don’t get the point of getting caught up in robberies. They were going to college and they came from middle class families. It was just stupid
Nah
Well, their portrayal in the film was inaccurate.
The armed robbery by six of their players was omitted and news of the revocation of their state title was omitted (due to an a player deemed academically ineligible).
Woke Hollywood decided not to reveal the whole truth about Carter High.
It's really a sad and shocking story from start to finish.
Finish is several athletes making the NFL and a tight community making sure no one's left behind. A happy ending.
I’m class of 2024 at DeSoto High School, I was scrolling through yearbooks and saw our score with this exact Carter Team. I was surprised DeSoto even hung with them.
There’s actually a Carter high movie Charles s Dutton was the head coach. Great movie.
Did it include the robberies or no ?
@@jayman3915 yes, it includes robberies.
IIRC the Carter High movie starts with an algebra grade being appealed.
I was going to the high school in the next town over from where the high school is. And when all of this happened, our school was suppose to take their place in the state high school playoffs. We found out on a Wednesday night that they were disqualified. The team had to do a quick practice to get ready for their first around game that weekend. The school had to set up everything including the pep rally real fast. Then in the middle of the school day, we all found out that Dallas Carter was reinstated. All of the students did a mass walk out for one hour to demonstrate against this. None of us were surprised when everything went down with them.
Wow! Where you at one of the Grand Prarie schools? I can't remember what school was supposed to replace them.
@@deadprez100vs I was at South Grand Prairie High School that year.
Something similar happened to my high school (in ‘98, long before I went there), but was just before the state championship game. The way I’ve had the story told to me is my school lost in the state semifinals. So they spent most of the next week cleaning/putting up all the equipment. Then either late Thurs or early Fri, they get word that the team they lost to in the semifinals (Katy HS) had been DQ’d for playing an ineligible player during their regular season. So the coaches had to scramble to get all of the equipment issued back out to the team, and put together some sort of a practice. Needless to say, Midland Lee kicked their 💩in to the tune of 54-0.
San Antonio MacArthur?
@@Telmarine55 yep!
Great doc! Enjoyed watching this when it came out!
Bruh, none of these kids that were robbing came from broken homes, i was pissed watching this OMG
Me too I’m like really all of them had scholarships like how are y’all that dumb to throw that away
@JazminePaden1012 exactly they claim they didn't want to ask there parents for money why not get a job they had a habit shooting dice..they had the opportunity to do something great to throw it away for some fast money
Went to Judson 94-96 played football and My Coach Skelton was a tight end in that game.
To think that these HS athletes would be earning millions today...Keep your head up!
this looks heartbreakenly incredible
@@wagnerp1213any stories or anecdotes?
Great doc
These guys were the "villain" team in Friday Night Lights btw. Of course, ESPN made a sympathetic documentary about the armed robber state champs in 2017 and blamed their actions on racism
I'm not sure we watched the same documentary. It didn't blame their actions on "racism" It showed how these kids thought they were invincible due to the hysteria surrounding the team and made some tragically bad choices...REALLY bad choices.
I personally loved the "villian" role they had in Friday Night Lights and I enjoyed how this documentary showed what was going on with one of the most talented yet ill-fated teams ever in high school football.
@@TheOrator7 So you didn't hear the fact that they were playing the race card when the kid failed his card? They acted like the Dallas super attendant board had a thing against black people. It was a good doc all in all. But not everything can be blamed on Racism.
@@TheOrator7are you kidding? They talked of how the armed robber convicts looked like “slaves in chains” and blamed whites for their grade fixing and lies. They cut so much corruption by that community out of the documentary that it proves what the left really is about. Stoking race flames to deflect their 50 years of left winged policies with no results. Must be racism from the ether.
@historybuff6715 And they sued. Then won right? Won as in they got to play right? The teacher definitley was the "anonymous" tip. Funny thing is Miles made a similar claim about the doctor that said his knee was done. Nobody batted an eye at that...
Wow! A documentary that shows why Permian was in fact the team you root for
They made the whole team and school pay for the acts of six individuals. The success outweigh what the six did.
They deserved to be stripped. That Carter team arguably shouldn't have been eligible to play. That said the 88 Carter team is still an ATG high school team to this day.
@@DontDrinkthatstuff you don't punish everyone for a few. Race was definitely involved in this especially since they were the first predominantly black school to win a title.
@@DontDrinkthatstuff sorry but what does ATG mean ?
@@WhatswhatwhatwhT All time great
"being good at a children's ball game is more important than armed robbery." lol
Race was definitely involved in this in more ways than one
I wanna see this
As a senior HS in ‘88, living only miles away from Carter High-I lived through this. It’s a great documentary, however the proposed “racism” by some of those interviewed in this piece is beyond incorrect. Anne Williams makes claims of signs being in the stands reading “Hang all Ni**ers”simply did not happen. Saying the arrest of these kids was like “slavery” is a disservice to so society and shows how people truly try to insult your intelligence. Don’t let them succeed.
On the positive side many of those athletes and parents of display contriteness and complete accountability in this film, which is commendable.
It just shows that those with an agenda then still hold that agenda. Those who were involved realize, have paid for, and mostly have improved as people. But please, allow reality to be just that. This story has NOTHING to do with racism, so watch this with an open mind and take whatever lessons from it you will. As lessons is what should be learned from this film.
Odessa was in fact one of the last towns to desegregate 🎪
@@Runningitthroughyou Towns, yes. However many of the accusations from the Dallas school board is ridiculous. I lived though this and that stuff would have been front page news all over the place had it been true. That is my point.
Sounds about white . America was born on violence and racism against black people . We didn't create racism of COLOR or this ATMOSPHERE but guess who did tho 🤔😳
These kids were robbed too, Today they'd have a ton of opportunities to make money legally.
The part bout the married women pulling up to the school is what got me trippin'
I played football in high school and we won state 3 years in a row. It happens all the time and more trust me.
Lol. Surprise no teachers got caught with them. Now it’s a female teacher getting caught every week sleeping with a student
This along with carter high will break your heart they didn’t all deserve life sentences
this is carter high ...
they didn't get life sentence, they all served less than 10 years in prison. if they didn't rob like 20 stores they would've went to college and be in the NFL. And if Gary Edwards did his school work they wouldn't strip Carter high of the state championship
d0narroyo thier original sentences were life sentences thank god they only had to serve 10 years I understand as do they that had committed crimes but they punishment was relentless also due to they fact of a entire city aiding and bedding them to think that they were above the law
@@skylerhardy1327 they werent life sentences. u might want to go look up what "concurrent" means. and it's not as if they all got drunk or high one night and went out and did something stupid. they committed 21 robberies over 6 months. they all deserved to go to jail.
Tony614 you sound dumb
Going to be a good one!
They deserved to be stripped of the title. Not only that but in Friday Night Light when the ball hit the ground. That really happened. Permian got screwed in that game and DC shouldn't have been in the championship game
Charlie Longley wouldn't have mattered Permian would have lost to converse Judson, it's a curse.
@@henryjw15 that's an opinion. Maybe they lose. Maybe they don't. Point is they were screwed of the chamce
I lived in Grand Prairie during this time and there were some incredible football games during that era in Texas.
They were going to get SMOKED by whoever they were going to play next...
@@charlielongley9229 Ask this why you think panther was screw too making too the state In they won in 1989...
Stooges got what they deserved. Hopefully they turned their lives around.
Huh they did some still made it too the nfl in some are spokesmen
@@Du808-o8k they ones that went to jail didnt make it the nfl they all had full rides but gave it away
Are you happy that happened to them
Sounds about white . America was born on violence and racism against black people . We didn't create racism of COLOR or this ATMOSPHERE but guess who did tho 🤔😳
These dudes weren’t “thugs” and “monsters” like the movie claimed them to be. That’s my biggest problem. Everyone is talking about it’s not about race or whatever. But I’m white. And it was predominantly white coaches calling for David w carter high school to not even play in that game. And I mean it was a huge controversy but then the uil reinstates them to play? Makes no sense. Lmao. What about exposing Permian for exploiting these kids for fame. Like all Texas football does. But man, I mean even people in Permian if you look up the interview they did a Brian chavez he even said in his city it was racially devided carter was a middle class community in the late 80s. And times where WAY different then they are now. Why punish the whole team of carter. I mean it protartys ALL OF THEM as thugs. Even in the movie when we were kids. We all thought that they were thugs and nasty monster people.. and in the game you’d see the kids hurting the other players on the team on the movie. That’s my problem
Our run of the mill white leftist stoking the race flames as usual. They were thugs. Armed robbery which involves putting a gun to one’s head qualifies you as such. And not to mention the school and community knew and covered it up as long as they could. Let us not forget the grade fixing and death threats to an honest teacher. His books were burned and doctored. He said as much. The left in this country makes up their own narrative.
Thank you perfect summation. We were not all Thugs and that movie still to this day disgust me how they portrayed my alma mater.
These guys did armed robbery. About as bad as it gets.
At the end it was true what other school districts said. They weren’t very smart. I didn’t think it was fair for the preacher’s son to avoid prison. He was just as guilty but because his dad was a preacher he got off the hook.
Comments really judging kids for making mistakes 😂😂
21 armed robberies are "mistakes" lol
@Emontre waters by your definition that could be true but a mistake can also be a making a bad judgment call or falling for peer pressure. Now I’m not condoning what they did in just saying to call them ruthless thugs and say they are worthless is pretty messed up considering how when it’s other people doing things like this or worse they don’t get called those type of things
@@daniellee9328 I mean yeah they ruined there careers. But at least they have owned up for it and changed there lives around. They didn't kill anybody. But they didn't hurt anybody or kill anybody. Not condoning what they did. My point is current nfl players have done much worse things and are still in the NFL.
Wow. Hairy legged white liberal girl to the rescue. Over 20 armed robberies aren’t typical, kid mistakes. What a joke you people are. Speeding at 50 mph in a 30 mph zone is a mistake. Holding guns to people’s heads and stealing their labor is not. It’s a thuggish crime. Period.
@@historybuff6715 Name a few...
What did the victims lose? They made A choice.
Everybody make mistakes yeah they was stupid for robbing the store but they learn from there mistakes...
@@Du808-o8k LMAO. "It was only 21 armed robberies, we all make mistakes!"
I wouldn't call robbing people a mistake, it is called a bad and stupid decision.
I think they meant the community and what it lost like it’s reputation and the schools
Robbing people and fixing grades so players can play... Yeah they made mistakes.
WE AS MY FAMILY WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE THAT SAY THERE GOT DIEASES YALL BOOK IN THE AGE OF YALL TIMES ...!!!???
huh?
What are you trying to say? It feels like English but I am just not sure.
This is why Ebonics shouldn't be allowed!!
@@Mjones8383: Sounds about white ...
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