7 Kpop Idols Criticized For NOT MAKING PROGRESS
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
- Kpop inherently has many cases of idols being harshly criticized for not making any progress since their debut. This is really a harsh industry as regardless of their practice and efforts, a lot of idols still receive tons of criticism for their (allegedly) disappointing skills and abilities.
So who are they and why netizens think they are treading water?
Disclaimer: This is just a report of multiple sources, not our own opinions.
7 Kpop Idols Criticized For NOT MAKING PROGRESS
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To be fair about Lia, shes a jazz/R&B style singer. She could go solo and be successful. Itzy’s style is way different from her specialty.
Lia get tired easily, she has health problems. She knows what people said about her so she said "im not lazy or slow, it just other itzy members are too good".
She has my favorite singing style and is also my specialty.
I love to sing jazz style songs and R&B songs. I hope she gets to showcase her strong points in the future.
That would be very nice because I really love jazz and it is my favorite genre of music so if she could do this in the future I'm sure lots of people will support her.
But I really love Lia’s parts in Itzy songs. Her parts in «mafia in the morning» is the only thing that made me like that song.
you just repeated what the video stated
I'm extremely shocked to see Tomorrow x Together on this list. They are all extremely talented!
Samee
ikrrr
Same
Ikr like whattt
I agree they have beautiful vocals,flawless dances, and powerful stage presence.😭
TXT are extremely talented and you can see that in the frost special performance vedio
No lol
@@MMll167 what do you mean?
@@MMll167 why?
TXT are above the 4th Gen indeed 💅
Mhm!
Lia is a amazing vocalist
I think she improved a lot in dancing
I think she danced way better in her debut stages. But after that, it seems like she got more comfortable and doesn’t try as much. I can understand why though.
@@Narvella maybe because of all the hate she was getting and cus of that her confidence level went down? (sorry for bad grammer)
@@Narvella she has decease
Lia get tired easily, she has health problems. She knows what people said about her so she said "im not lazy or slow, it just other itzy members are too good".
@@Narvella I think because these days Itzy's choreography are so hard
Lia has been improving a lot and we need to appreciate that. Her vocals might not suit itzy’s songs much but that doesn’t mean her vocals are bad.
Yet people still need a reason to criticise her.
@@turntoallah8750 netizens need jus a single reason to create a mound of problems and hate chains to take down an idol
For me Lia have a good vocal But jyp make her sing song not fit with her vocal example I like her ost she sound very good
@@danchoi5425 I agree!
Lia get tired easily, she has health problems. She knows what people said about her so she said "im not lazy or slow, it just other itzy members are too good".
idk man i'll just be a TXT enjoyer so long as they are there. They got good music, lots of pretty neat live singing and dance performance videos, great team chemistry and personalities. Honestly, what else could you ask for? I feel like people are just finding anything to complain about. I'll never understand why you all still hate them. I think they've pretty much already proven themselves and built their very own reputation as a kpop group.
I completely agree. If their fame was only from BTS, they wouldn't be making it this far in their career.
exactly
@@esrtdryftuvgbhi exactly...their freeze album has been charting for more than 45 weeks on Billboard...i don't know how can some idiots still doubt their success😂...coz it's genuinely ridiculous....such delulu fans who think that txt's success is just coz of bts needs to grow up
@@ellenasv1028 agree, also if you look at numbers or pre order for Thursday's child. Only a blind person will say they aren't successful 😁
@@estradacrystallyndellt.5478 yeah~~... I just wish great success for Txt's upcoming album...💙💙💙✨✨...it would be a dream come true if they will receive lots n lots of love excluding the unnecessary hate they are getting till now
I literally got chills the first time I heard Lia’s part in Mafia In the Morning (seumnida/ the bridge)!! I’d never heard such a beautiful and unique voice in kpop. She also shines in bsides like Be In Love, because her parts compliment her tone really well. But you can clearly see her singing and dancing has improved A LOT. Everyone makes mistakes but no one seems to let it go when Lia does it 🙄
@Life sucks and then you die not the public its from other fandom, solo stan and bias within their group mostly in Twitter and FB.
Literally!!
same all this time i thought it was yuna
I loveddd it.
YES same for that part of mafia in the morning! Still my fave part of the song! Go Lia!
I’m surprised to see TXT here. At the beginning netizens claimed their success was bc of BTS (bc netizens r annoying), but now it’s so obvious how talented these boys are. They proved comeback after comeback how much they’re improving (even tho they were alr amazing since their debut). Idk where the “didn’t make progress” part came from.
These sooo called " netizens" are bunch of senseless people with no lives who hate on young idols to make themselves feel better..
“didn’t make progress” came bcz they haven't listened the whole discography
Netizens are a bunch of rats that live in JYP's sewer.
Well they were already the best since their debut and even now😎💅...I think that's what "didn't make progress" means😂😂
I never heard anyone say that txt is talentless... they are literally one of the most talented groups in kpop, they sing live all the time with hard choreos. they recieved hate bc they got really popular from the get go and people thought it was bc of bts. its not the same thing.
@@oatmeallvr if it was such a biiiiig deal i wouldve hear about it bc i follow them and read news about korean entertainment industry every day. So yes, im positive that this person mixed up two separate problems. And obviously 26 people (as of now) agree with me. 🙂
This page lies 9/10
It's like this channel just featured the most ridiculous comments and paraded it as a general view when its just the extreme minority who are so biased they mistook their unfounded opinions as established facts.
@@amelakulalic8581 girllll idc who liked ur comment ur not hard
@@oatmeallvr 62 and counting 😁
in fact the jump from one genre to another TXT has nailed it all saying not improved is seriously harsh criticism 😅 ... vocals are too cool n Dance wise immense growth.. remember every success takes Time 👍 and to climb the ladder of achievements as their senior group has achieved in itself is a DEAL to crack
Exactly although I liked their pop genre, they are amazing and so far what I've heard their rock genre I believe suits them as well.
People who say TXT haven’t improved are clearly not seeing what I’m seeing. The difference between the Crown stages and the stages now is immense. Yes their live vocals may not be the best out of 4th gen, but they are certainly not the worst. Their discography is one of the best.
Their live vocals are actually very good. Certainly better than some other 4th gen acts.
In my opinion their live vocals are actually amazing! They have intense choreography but still manages to hit those notes like in 0X1 and LOSER LOVER
@@baby.blue_b Yeah....people overlook how hard their choreos are...And singing with that is just commendable
Their vocal is one of the best in 4th gen! Literally every member can sing sing!
Their live vocals are one of the best, especially because TXT songs are way higher than other Boygroups. Even crown and Run away is much more difficult to sing and dance not speaking about Loser Lover and 0=1 LOVESONG where you even got to act while you dance and make that husky high note that Taehyun does.
Timestaps:
0:02 - Itzy Lia
1:59 - Red Velvet Yeri
3:34 - Blackpink Jisoo
4:43 - Astro Cha Eunwoo
5:45 - Gidle Shuhua
6:57 - TXT
8:24 - Kep1er Bahiyyih
They don't derserve the hateee😭
THANK YOU
Yea but its ok to be critizied to be better
@@user-ey1ms7dj8i a simple critized is okay to me, but not that too much🤧
They do
Ikr they're so precious ( jisoo and yeri are my bias wrecker they should6 get hate they got talent nice personality) Mostly shuhua txt are my faves but they shouldn't get hate they're so precious :(
This is the first time I've heard of the criticism that TXT is not improving. Whoever has said that has most probably not listened to the entirety of TXT's discography. TXT has consistently been releasing great albums, and ALL of their songs are very good with meaningful lyrics. Their latest releases The Chaos Chapter: Freeze and Fight or Escape are no exceptions. Ox1=Lovesong is one of the best pop songs of 2021. So good that it was even nominated as Best Kpop Song at the Korean Music Awards, and its MV won as MV of the Year at Melon Music Awards. TXT was nominated as Best Male Group and won the Worldwide Fans' Choice at Mnet Asian Music Awards. All these recognitions from established and legitimate award-giving bodies and they are not improving? The criticism is quite obviously unfounded and unfair.
ngl txt has a very good discography, musics and everyone is all rounder
but in the competition of 4th gen they can't stand out being vocally good or they don't have too good rapper or top tier dancer in these catagory they frankly becomes last
but they are good with that and they are successfull
@@jawadhasan8287 not last, maybe in the middle? but i notice they dont really standout that much, always in the middle.
@@whyisbeomisocute3317 i was talking about the ranking about the best vocalists of each group or the best rappers of each group in these case they stands out in a very poor condition in overall group performence they stands out in a good position
in fact the jump from one genre to another TXT has nailed it all saying not improved is seriously harsh criticism 😅 ... vocals are too cool n Dance wise immense growth.. remember every success takes Time 👍
well said
Kep1er has only a debut song and ppl are acting like it's her 4th comeback with no improvement 😶😒 What are they basing their judgement on exactly, SMH
forrrreall
People will see Eunwoo’s talent only if they see him for his talent not visuals. He is way more than just a visual.
Preach Sis!!!
Exactly!
Of course theyre trying to find flaws on him hahaha. Man is so perfect after all. Singing dancing looks smart athletic.
Have you heard his vocals in master in the house ? His voice was so charming and I fell for him all over again because of his singing
@@lccw4301 he’s a very good singer and dancer but the problem is that ppl only see him as a visual I kinda feel bad for him.
EunWoo is so talented and he improved so much! He got praises from experts and directors in true Beauty, I think people just criticized him bc he’s so handsome and popular.
I really hate the criticism for TXT. They’re not my ultimate group or anything, but they are amazing! Their vocals are great, stage presence is insane, and their concepts are so interesting!
Eunwoo making everyone mad by doing one drama per year, we know his relevance
It's funny how you all are going around making videos about idols who are doing nothing but just hardwork, trust me eunwoo trends in Korea every single day and netizens are eagerly waiting for actor eunwoo, literally millions of ppl are there in Korea and you selected the comment where they were dissing his acting, maybe do your research properly
Yeonjun - Bighit's legendary trainee. His dancing and rap is immaculate. And don't even get me started at his voice...The way he sings is something so unique and sexy and I have never seen another artist with this tone of voice.
Soobin - I have to admit that I have not seen such good falsetto notes in the kpop for a while now. His voice is really gifted. His dancing is also outstanding if you see him alone. He has proven many times that he can rap well.
Beomgyu - His deep hoarse voice is something that's not fully exposed by bighit. But his ability to hit both high notes and low notes is just top notch. And His dancing is fabulous. He has proven many times that he can rap well
Taehyun - His rap skills are amazing. His dancing is super clean and comparable to Yeonjun at times. His voice is just heavenly. They way he alters his voice for anything and his versatility is just amazing.
HueningKai - He has perfect pitch and is 4th gen music prodigy. His dancing has its own charm and his voice is super stable and wonderful. He has proven many times that he can rap well...
And sometimes I feel that while dancing Yeonjun is sooo good that he sometimes looks better than others and that's why people say txt can't dance well...Just look at members individually and almost all of them are at main dancer and lead dancer level....TXT have proved themselves and why do people forget that they have been training with bighit before BTS got popular.....Taehyun even said that he has seen their company go from bankruptcy to the peak they are at now.....And about privileges....TXT were given a one room dorm at the time of debut and they were upgraded to a 3 room dorm and now a 4 room dorm as their success progressed. They were never given that much of silver spoon as people claim....Just the bare privilege that all idols have by debuting under big 3...But obviously they are TXT so they are gonna get dragged. They got massive hate for debuting under the same label as BTS...That's just messed up....No one hated any other 4th gen idols for debuting under the same label as popular seniors....
Exactly! All of this is true and im grateful for you taking the time to write all of this down. I’m grateful that our fandom is also very loving when it comes to the boys. No matter what haters say, they have worked hard and definitely was not handed a golden spoon. YES: they came under the same company as BTS, but that doesnt mean they are popular only because of them. They are gonna get hate, but they have so much love that overcomes that negativity. MOAs lets not focus on the hate that is still happening and get excited for their next comebacks in a few weeks and celebrate, stream, and make memories with our one and only TOMORROW X TOGETHER ❤
@@Abir77530 Yes.....Honestly I stopped fighting the antis about this cause they're just dumb.....But when a big channel like this makes such a statement then its wrong and it makes a wrong impression...Someone had to say this....We moas have had enough....It's been like this ever since their debut and it's high time people realize that TXT is doing it and killing it like no one else ....And about the comeback...I can't tell you how excited I am.....🤩
This is the comment !!!!!!!! These hating dumb ass people act like groups like Girls generation, big bang, 2NE1, Black Pink , Sistar, EXO, Super Junior, Miss A, 2pm and the rest didn't give popularity to the big 3 companies and now the 4th gen juniors are reaping fame and popularity from that hardwork just because they debuted at Big 3 companies just like TXT so why is Tubatu getting hated for something that all 4th gen groups from big 3 also gained and are enjoying ?? People really have no sense whatsoever atp !
@@tanishqasingh2978 seriously! With trolls here and there its no big deal considering how strong the fandom is when it comes to TXT, but yeah especially on a big video on this where new Kpop Stans can see, something needs to be said. Im so excited also 🥳 its my first comeback with them. Hope you enjoy with them like i will also :)
@@Abir77530 Wow.....I have been a moa since Blue Hour Era....💙 ...abut thrill about their comeback never goes away....🥳🥳🥳
why are the kpop females always being targeted for criticism....🤔🤔
Not only female but male too get criticism .
@Wasama Mahmood I want to learn more about kpop life and I love all different kind of kpop groups....
@@bibhakumari9151 WELL THATS TRUE...BUT IT SEEMS LIKE FEMALES GET A LOT OF CRITICISM THAN MALES....
Because Women fans are jealous and always too critical towards other women. Why even compare each member, they have their own style. Just like Jisoo, she didnt even want to be a kpop idol, she auditioned to be an actress, ofcourse shed be behind the other members when it comes to being an “idol”.
I don't know , if K-pop male their sound are crack they think is funny but when female idol they critized it. Because woman is easyly jealous with other woman.
If you're really a fan of TXT and you've been following them, you'll see they are making progress in each comebacks. They are all-rounders, they can sing, dance, rap, all visuals, etc. They also can slay each concept perfectly. They are all talented and they are progressing it very well 🔥
Also, comeback on May 9, 2022, new TXT is coming!
#ThursdayChild #HateTXT #EndTXT #MessTXT
Your user name is quite nice actually, because it's heard that MOA's and ONCE's are some of the nicest fandoms.
Who are you consider as netizen?? Eunwoo was never criticised for true beauty or gangnam beauty. Stop lying.
Lia is actually a pretty good dancer. The reason she looks weak beside the other members are just cuz itzy dance line is so good. She also have some health issues. Shes a good singer too. I believe she is trying a lot and improving. Lias issue is also the same with Jisoo. Both are great.
Jisoo’s voice is fit for ballads and Lia’s voice is fit for jazz. Both are made to sing out of their range because the public likes higher girlier voices, so people don’t want the girls to sound like adults/men.
I think what certain netizens are forgetting is that Huening Bahiyyih is still a rookie k-pop idol, so there is still time for her to make progress
Yep lol they are just looking for ways to hate on her -,-
@TacoBelle the correct statement would be she has yet to receive official training from the company. Plus, she still doesn't know much about vocals and stage presence so her learning is slow but steady. It will take time for her to find her style of music that suits her the best. She is literally an example of if an idol debuted without much training. You really can't compare her to other members who have more than a year of training period and yes every year and month counts to the difference.
@TacoBelle and i like her this way, and she's talented whether u like it or not, so go cry abt it
the thing is, kepler wont be around for too long. they dont have a lot of time on their hands so debuting a not very talented member and just waiting for her to improve in the process is not very wise. it's more ideal for groups with short contracts to reach their peak early so it's best to debut already talented members. but here we are lol
@TacoBelle oh shut up, the brother excuse is lame and outdated. go touch some grass instead of hating on a minor weirdo,
I'm confused. TXT is one I adore the most because they are equally skillful in their own range. Their choreography is very hard and their singing somehow very nice to hear. I don't know which netizen who set the standards while they can't even do a move gracefully.
Progress is Cha Eunwoo’s middle name (not that Cha Eunwoo even is his real name to began with). He went from auditioning for MIIGB to basically save his company from bankruptcy to being praised by Korean media and fans for portraying Suho’s pain so well in True Beauty. He gets hate and criticism from international stans simply because they want his fame for their faves. Sorry, but it’s true.
As for his idol side? His vocals and dance improved so much in such a short time, and he’s on par with idols who trained for a much longer time. It’s obvious he always puts effort into his performance.
TXT are not improving because they are already great at their work
That is so true. 😳
Puurrrr👏😩
SO TRUEE
LMAO YES
Preach
The fact that eunwoo is here makes me so upset😔😔 Like man's literally juggling acting, Astro, his studies and modelling for 362828 brands and STILL ACING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!! HONESTLY HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN DO IT LIKE HIM?? As for his acting roles the characters were all so similar there was little room for him to show his spectrum, but I still think he executed all of them quite well
it's so sad how txt has to face this kind of criticism all because their seniors are popular. You know, we all admire bts for the feat that they have achieved bc it is truly phenomenal but damn, im pretty sure that hardship was actually more torturous for the members than how netizens so easily describe it in their posts and comments. I frankly dont want every kpop group i support to go through that? While the underdog story is always so inspiring, don't shit on other people just cause they didn't go through the shit of an underdog.
First of all, it's not txt's fault their seniors suddenly became popular. Most of them joined Bighit when bts was just starting to gain popularity in Korea, not even internationally yet. They joined that company not to ride on the coat tails of anybody but to fulfill their dream. And wow then bts became popular. Second of all, their growth has actually been slow but linear. They may have gained everyone's attention bc of their seniors, but the achievements that they have now since after their debut have all been gained through steady hard work. They try out new concepts all the time, make their own music, attend so many shows and give their best for the performances, are active as mcs of radio shows and music shows, has their own variety show, literally soa ctive on vlive and weverse, and etc. They work hard too okay.
I feel like the first thing that people need to do, is to stop hoping that txt becomes the next bts because they aren't. Most people's expectations of them are attributed to how they viewed the progress of bts and that ghost of being in the same label has surely put a lot of pressure on txt. They are a different group, with a different story, and a different style, but they do have the same dream and they have also worked hard for it. Netizens don't even say that rv, exo, or nct gained their popularity through snsd or soju. So people need to let them live out their dreams. (Also, can't believe I wrote an essay about this HAHAHAH)
@@alynnamazo524 you're right im actually often annoyed by how people assume that 80% of their popularity is because of bts, well its true that people might check out txt because they're a new group under hybe entertainment that doesn't mean they will support them because of that 1 reason if they weren't talented enough people would just not even look their way. I never knew txt because of bts and in fact im not an army anyways i only decided to check out txt because of a moa's edit that was on insta last sep or oct and decided to check them even more after hearing their songs such as blue hour, i know i love you or even loser lover i mean who would listen to their songs if they were bad at all 🤨
@@alynnamazo524 TXT's achievements are their own. No one's denying. They became "popular" at the start since they were BTS' juniors, but their "success" is their own. And BTS's success wasn't "a stroke of goddamn luck". It was their hard work.
@@oncepotato545 oh yeah im sorry i miswrote about the "stroke of luck" part, I've been trying to edit it but youtube isn't saving my edits for some reason. I'm genuinely an army too and I wrote that without thinking and have been trying to edit it. I hope it sticks now. Anyways, yes txt's achievements are their own and I wish people would stop saying it isn't. Which is clearly what some people still think according to the video.
Hiyyih needs more time to shine it's not even been half a year since their debut tho
Cha eunwoo winning all those awards for being a beautiful actor and btw knets have approved his acting from tb 🤩🤩
What's eunwoo doing here??? That man is talented af
Hold on ✋🏼
Did I just see SOOBIN, LIA and BAHIYYIH on the thumbnail !!???
I don't understand why are they even in this video when they are one of the idols who had the most improvement every time they are on screen, performing or recording.
1. Any TXT members shouldn't be on this list to begin with. They were already very talented when they debuted and now their skills have improved even more plus they has branched out their talent into song writing, composing and producing as well along with modeling and acting.
Any of the TXT members shouldn't be on this list especially after seeing their growth and versatility with every comeback. Being able to pull off a concept perfectly is amazing but being able to perfect and embody various concepts every single time just shows how good they are.
2. Whether you are a fan of ITZY or not, you can just tell how strong performers ITZY girls are, they are one of the strongest/ best dance performance group in kpop ever and Lia being a main vocalist catching up with the 4 main dancer material girls just tells a lot about how hard she works. I'm actually very proud of her.
3. Bahiyyih is criticized and hated too much. TBH she is the only girl from girlsplanet999 who improved every time she was on screen. And forget gp999 she is one of the best idols who improved so much that I see can her improvement even without stanning her.
Stop dragging eunwoo , he’s an all rounder
Man this world is such a filthy place. Calling a 17 year old girl ugly and other names just cos she's the sister of a well known artist and tha she had to fit the concepts of the so called music lovers. She doesn't deserve this man..!!!
It's really ridiculous the Netizens quote unquote claim these Idols are not talented to be in the K-pop music industry like for Example TXT are incredibly talented Singers dancers Vocalists and Preformers in their own right the Netizens have got to stop comparing them to BTS
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Eunwoo is a very good actor, boy aces on everything he do, from being an actor to an idol he is the standard for everything
Txt r really talented nd got everything they received for their own hard work
I'm also lost on how bahiyyih is gonna show her progress when she literally gets no screentime or lines to show it with💀 Kepler only has 3 members who really get all the support from the company
one of the reason why i left the fandom :D
And she just debuted💀✋🏻
one thing about random youtube accounts is they will post anything out of their ass cz eunwoo is just amazing and talented
txt were NEVER criticized for "not making progress" at all what are you saying. You literally just picked out tweets made by literal antis and said that's what people thought about them which isn't true. They just got a lot of hate for debuting after bts and so their antis are trying to say all kind of weird things about them but they never got criticized by normal people for lacking and infact they were praised more. Stop spreading misinfo this is not it.
Yeri used to lack a lot in terms of dancing and stage presence but after Psycho, Queendom and Feel My rhythm eras you can clearly see her great evolution, she is a lot more confident and energetic on stage! Go Yeri! 💜🫂
Eunwoo has improved a lot. He isn't just a visual. His voice is so soothing. And he is being praised too by knetz. I guess the one who made this useless vedio is living under the rock.
I'd just like to point out that TXT was my favorite group long before I knew they were connected to BTS. They are amazingly talented, and they don't deserve to be told otherwise🥰
Shuhua has improved a lot in both dancing and singing, in terms of stage presence, it is enough to look at the stages of Lion and Put It Straight in queendom to realize that the criticism is absurd, it is normal that they attack a visual and more if she is a foreigner, Shuhua has a beautiful voice, she just needs to have more confidence in her Korean pronunciation, she is very young and will improve every day, in this last comeback she is one of the most outstanding in terms of dance and stage presence, in general in the album she has more verses in the songs, she has a good group around her and the best leader to guide her.... netizens need to chill and nip pick their own talent, cuz criticizing idols is not one...
She improved in Nxde and got more lines
How are people hating Shuhua’s vocal if Soojin is the worst singer in (G)I-DLE and Miyeon is the worst dancer?
Eunwoo has a unique style of showing his expression, when i watched my id is Gangnam beauty and true beauty, his act caught me , because the way he shows the whole expression through his eyes is really unique to me .
Also for jisoo, i always thought that i never Heard a husky deep voice from a female like this .
Lia caught my attention by her cute voice in wannabe .
How even people hate them ?
Eunwoo is talented and an all rounder, stop slandering him
Txts lovesong was literally nominated for Kma. The first 4th gen boy group to do that. Music critics sat in a group and decided that txt was worth a chance and keyboard warriors want to discredit that. Anywayssss🤧
Who told hiyyih is expressionless. THEY SHOULD WATCH HIYYIH’s PERFORMANCE IN ‘MVSK’ . She rocked in it
she just blink ?? everyone can do that
@@yummyeon you are just a hater go and sit down...She just debuted 3 months ago as a self trained idol she is even better than most idols trained in companies for years and are still terrible... Hiyyih has soo many expressions on stage that her own members chose her as the only member who does a lot of expressions with her face... Go out and touch some grass and stop hating on a 17 year old self trained idol with your sarcastic rude comment.. Are u not embarrassed ??? 😒
@@yummyeon Do you have poor eyesight?
@@yummyeon 🤣
@@pablitotagacan6863 i share my opinion as a spectator
I even dont want to give any explanation for cha eun-woo. People just jealous because he is not only handsome but talented as well.
EunWoo was never criticized for true beauty or my Id, what are you saying? And he improved a lot! Making videos just clout I see
Lia never does the “Wannabe” shoulder move with the arms too. You can see that in every performance. Also, have you heard her speak? Her voice is as low or lower than Hyoyeon from SNSD. I can’t believe she sings so high. She’s a great vocalist. They need to clear up the bullying scandal because people are not letting it go in SK.
Not sure about others but eunwoo standing out here man is full of talents from academics to professional. Visual is just cherry on top of his talents
Eunwoo does not deserve the unnecessary hate i've loved every role he did he played all of them well and according to his character
People are just jealous that he's both handsome and talented
not really his expressions are generic
but as in idol he's outstanding
I don't think his expressions are generic. I think its the roles he plays that are all very similar that he is critisized for. I mean most are all these serious boy types who are not supposed to care for the main character. As he starts to branch out people will see his range. He has vastly improved in everything imo and yes he is extremely handsome but also very talented as well.
Yeri started pretty rough. But since her debut, she has grown MASSIVELY in every way. She doesn't sing as well as Wendy? Neither does anyone else. She does not dance as well as Seulgi? Neither does anyone else. Etc. People who hate on Yeri now are probably the same as those who hated on her for crying on TV after the death of her best friend. I know that I am biased, but I don't think that she belongs on this list.
Even if ur biased she doesn’t belong here because she has improved a lot
@@ervindeleons all of the idols here don't belong here too people just don't know talent
Stop slandering eunwoo , he’s an amazing actor and singer
"since her debut, she hasn't made any breakthroughs" are people forgetting that they just debuted, only have 1 comeback, and bahiyyih barely has any lines? How is she supposed to show that she improved when given no opportunities to? Also how do you know that she didn't improve at all considering all these things?
i like her voice (from girls planet 999 because thats the only place where she actually got lines) i hope they give her more lines in next comeback tho
These netizens are so full of hate and superiority complex that logic has decided to leave them.
the TXT slander in this video is unacceptable! TXT is super talented and they are popular not just because of BTS but because of their talent, actually being debuted after BTS and being under Bighit made it even harder for TXT to shine because they are always being overshadowed by BTS and haters and antis uses BTS to drag TXT and hate them for no reason... its kinda seem like a curse at this point because being compared to BTS and living under the shadow of BTS is not helping them at all, they get hate for no reason at all
yea, and they just turned 3 yrs last month...at this point, they shouldn't even be compared to their seniors anymore this far into their career...
Bahiyyih would make improvements when companies that kep1er is under let her sing and show of
Kep1er has only a debut song and ppl are acting like it's her 4th comeback with no improvement 😶😒 What are they basing their judgement on exactly, SMH
its the fact that she’s already shown improvement. people really be out here acting as if she’s the least skilled kpop idol to ever debut when she’s a great dancer and she’s the second best vocalist in kepler 💀
Cha Eunwoo being gorgeous is just an add on. Cha Eunwoo is super talented. Even Kmedia & Knetz praised his acting in TB. There are articles who said how eunwoo is one of the idols who ended pre conceived notion against idol-actors. He got many ballad OSTs because his voice is being loved and praised. Love So Fine was the most popular OST of True Beauty, which Eunwoo sang. Blind people can't see beyond his looks
with bahiyyih, she has a very high potential as evident in her performances in gp999 where she made real progress. we cant really tell how much she improved now that she debuted because her company (yes im talking about wakeshit) who is supposed to help her improve and reach her full potential is apparently the one blocking her way. like they are so consistent on giving her barely nothing and set her behind everyone in the group.
i think frm what we’ve seen so far she has improved a lot. like her stage presence and facial expressions? *chefs kiss*
Lia vocals are amazing and she has one of the most beautiful voice in kpop. She improved so much in dancing compared to before, watch her loco fancams. She has the least dancing background, she is surrounded by amazing dancers, so i'am really proud of her for keeping up with the rest of the members. You rock lia ! So please, stop saying bullshit and hating on her while she clearly improve everyday.
Not the least…
Actually, Lia was a contemporary dancer before she debuted. She didn’t get used to idol dancing at first, but in sneakers she now did
Lia’s voice was also deeper when she attended Dreamvocal academy. She sounded deeper
I even saw on IG some so-called 'blinks' saying 'Jisoo is so talentless 🙄', 'Blackpink would be better if Jisoo was not there' and 'Jisoo leave! You're ruining Blackpink's image' like why the hell would you call yourself a blink if you hate one of them? Like you just became a blink just to support Jennie, Rosé and Lisa then just bash Jisoo? Then you're gonna say 'I'm a real blink' yeah right
Whoever said TXT are talentless clearly have not seen their discography and effort.....They are just a 3 yr old group and they have tried so many concepts from bright to dark....They have gained title as "Healing idols" and "4th gen IT group". Their discography is something that most people relate to and there is always something for every type of listener. They are the second most synchronized group in kpop after seventeen and have countless times shown how humble they are. Just have a look at their covers. The way they do justice to the original artist is beyond amazing. The way all members can do almost everything is just immaculate. They have also proved their stability and live vocals (I remember how Taehyun once told that they used to train while running on treadmills to attain stability)....Sometimes you'll see stages where they sound like they are lip syncing and then something happens to prove that their mics are on 😏
Eunwoo is a superb performer, what are these people smoking????
Although Jisoo isn't the best vocalist nor the best dancer. They can't really say that she hasn't improved her dancing. Songs like dkwtd and forever young showcased her improvement in dancing. In lovesick Girls, I could clearly see improvement in her dancing. Now Her vocals are a different story. I don't think her vocals are bad but they definitely need to be improved. She fits low notes better or songs like stay make her vocals stand out. She's got poor support. Which is her company's fault because they did not give her any vocal training. Like....Why would you give some notes they can't pull off? At least train your artists. In earlier performances, I could see stability in her voice but now I feel like she has lost confidence.
I'm not sure when txt came into the "no improvement" list, as i thought they were really respected. Are you sure they're in the list? Cuz ppl accused them of nepotism only during their debut , not now, as they have a name for themselves and are pretty respected in the industry, they're so funny and talented that they'd stolen my heart a long time ago.
Txt not talented? That’s the most bullshit thing i have heard all year. Txt has top tier vocals, dance skills, rapping (they haven’t shown their whole rapping potential yet) personalities and visuals. They are literally all rounders. They have all been extremely awesome from the start, so that’s why it may look like they have made no progress. But they also help in the composing and lyrics of their songs so I don’t even know why some mfs think txt isn’t talented.
i would say the fact those 5 made the cut in bighit indicates they're talented. I see where the antis are coming from tho, all of them are very idol rapper dancers and singers and that's why they're getting the hate - a lot of gen 4 groups have people with dancing or musical backgrounds which is why they're more skilled in certain areas. txt lack that, which is fine because they're idols not rappers dancers or vocalists.
I mean they are considered to have a flawless discography, some of the best choreos some people are just jealous
@@firstbinguser Taehyun is a very good vocalist. And Yeonjun a very talented dancer. Hueningkai composed Dear Sputnik. Beomgyu co-wrote maze in the mirror along with all the other members. Soobin has an amazing falsetto and has written lyrics. In fact, all members have credits for lyrics. Yeonjun has a history of dancing, hueningkai and beomgyu have musical histories. And yes, they are idols ofc, but they are also artists in their own right. Plus they have worked very hard. And i will agree of them getting more coverage and attention in the start due to BTS and I'm sure they are thankful for it. But after 3 years of being in the industry, they have made a name for themselves and they deserve it. It's not fair to credit all their success to BTS, which you aren't doing but I just wanted to mention it.
tbh txt doesn't have top tier dance rap or vocal
but its true they have amazing concepts , musics and everyone is all rounder
Seriously! I remember when they did a cover of Boy in Luv, Taehyun did Jimin’s high note AND Hobi’s rap, and people think their untalented? They were good back then and they are getting better every time
I just realized people will find any idol who is getting popular and hate on them for not being perfect.......all these idols have worked hard and I appreciate them.......plus how dare people say txt is untalented........I mean at this point I can't take anything the internet says seriously
I agree with some of the opinions, but do we really need to boast about it online? Can't we keep it to ourselves? Especially Bahiyyih's one, Kep1er hasn't even been in the industry for half an year, they haven't even had a comeback, so Bahiyyih is supposed to improve SO MUCH in 2-3 weeks?
i think the improvement she’s made so far has been amazing. she looks much more comfortable on stage than in gp999 and her stage presence, dance and facial expressions have improved greatly
Eunwoo is an amazing actor singer and dancer stop dragging him
I think Jisoo has improved so much. Also it's normal to crack your voice, it doesn't make you a bad singer. She is a pretty great vocalist and her dancing skills aren't that bad, she improved on it a lot too. But we can't see it that much cause of YG😒 but nevertheless, I think she improved so much!
yup,also maybe the reason why she crack up is that the style or color of the music is not suitable for her voice.but she is always trying her best that is great❤
@@_unknown_funthings1428 yep!
uh i thought voice cracks are not supposed to happen unless u have bad technique ?
@@hnyuq4049 voice cracks are pretty common
and can happen to even the most technically skilled person
@@yuktasalvi7945 correct,and I think it not just only him I see also some this happened to some 4th generation top vocalist,like from stayc and nmixx
Eunwoo has no place in here
Kmedia themselves called him an all rounder for a reason
he got numerous awards for his acting his most recent one emotive award for suho was so well deserved bc his eyes r so expressive and he portrayed suho so well he did all his characters justice too
as for his idol side eunwoo never stops improving his voice is beautiful i love his osts especially and he's a good dancer he keeps up even with the main dancers in his group
So no i don't get the hate or even why he's in this list
Txt's tracks are sooooooo good r u kidding
txt are adored by the general public and are consistenly praised by their music quality and talents i think the information is very out dated and just refers to what lifeless trolls were saying during their debut era. i could easily say they're one if not the most loved 4th gen group by knetizens. their choreos are probably one of the hardest in the industry and still they all manage to dance so in sync and amazingly, they have clear vocals and always out do themselves with every comeback
Cha eunwoo didn't get criticsm during Gangnam beauty or True Beauty, only when teaser & first episode Rookie historian released, but his acting improves like A LOT after that & got many praised, but of course ppl ignore it cuz him getting praises left and right do not make y'all happy, what a shame
but do you think ppl can't see which are objective opinion & which are just pure hates out of jealousy?
😂 Eyy...
For Yeri case, have you ever heard WIDESIDE??
None of the mentioned idols deserve such hate, really. The crazy high standard just makes things even worse.
I don't know where people get that TXT aren't making any progress. They have improved every year. They break their pre-order sales every year, they recently held an online and offline concert, they made collaborations with other artists, they occasionally and unintentionally trended (MC AKKONG anyone??), they even made a comeback during the height of a pandemic.
They barely interacted with BTS the last few months, either because of COVID or they were mostly in the US promoting their HIGHLY successful album and concerts.
In conclusion, if people didn't like their songs then people wouldn't bother with them.🤷♀️
Eunwoo's voice is beautiful, he is good dancer and actor...he is also intellegnt, and atheletic..but haters always hate him for no reason.
*DAMN PEOPLE JUDGING ALOT,, HAVE THEY FORGOT A COMPANY WILL NEVER DEBUT IDOLS WHO ARENT GOOD,, DESPITE THE FEW LACKING SKILLS THEY ALWAYS IMPROVE BUT PEOPLE ARE ACTING BLIND AND FOCUS ON DAMN MKSTAKES LIKE MEN HAVE U FORGOT THEY'RE HUMANS....*
From what you said about TXT, I think it's more of people saying that they just got famous because of BTS, not their improvement. People need to stop saying that they are achieving everything because of them. They worked very hard to get to where they are now.
People need to understand that main vocalist are not just about hitting high notes (She can and she has hitted in 'LOVE is' tho). Yeah she might not be good as Wendy or any 3rd gen vocalist but personally her voice in the OST, her covers like 'Price Tag', etc are my favourites *it's just ITZY'S song vocal requirements are not in her range* and about her dancing YES SHE ISN'T good as other members in terms of dancing *because she never had a background of dancing!! (same goes with Jisoo)* BUT she has improved *alot* since debut y'all!! Also, the outfits she gets are REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE AND NOT GOOD IN DANCING especially in 'WANNABE' era that frock outfit how do you expect to do that damn dance break perfectly when that outfits keeps interrupting?? Haters better listen to 'CRAZY IN LOVE' album's b-sides girly literally popped off in vocals (Chaeryeong too or imma say the whole group)
K-netizen will never leave Lia. She still get hate for that unconfirmed bullying scandal. Lia's voice is one of most beautiful i have ever heard. The way she manage to hit high notes while synchronising with other members is impressive. So don't compare lia's vocal with those prerecorded vocal.
Hey Bestie!! It is my first time seeing someone is saying TXT isn't improving or not be good with their vocals, TXT can and they already killing every single genre their cover songs are always be better than original they surprised us even more than before with their comebacks.
Comparing them to their Seniors is always be a stupid idea since the beginning as TXT isn't belong to BTS's generation groups, they only know their seniors because of BIGHIT ENT other than that we know that TXT is already named 4th Gen Leaders!!! ❤️
just facts!
TXT one of the best 4th Gen boy group coz they vocal perfect, they dance perfect, they rap (mainly yeonjun) perfect, they visuals perfect and they personalities perfect. For me i stan TXT not just They next generation of big hit also they raw talents and I love them even more and I hope people will love and appreciate them ever more after they comeback. Btw can't wait for they comeback MOAAAAAA💙❤️💜
Exactly including txt in this video list is BS
Perpect? Hmm i dont think so,their rapline not that good,vocal also still below others,dance also below other group
@@noriawawa9073 you know what you aren’t important at all every thing that you said is just wasting of your time cause nobody will ever gaf about a random dude /anti on a comment on yt 😂
@@noriawawa9073 I would... slightlllyy agree with the rapline part, but you DID NOT just say that about TXT vocal line,,, their MR Removed stages are fucking perfect... Godly vocals in TXT
@@noriawawa9073 Their dance too, you gotta be trolling cause' that is just not true. If you're worried about their choreogrpaphy being different lately,,, it is cause they are doing new genres for comebacks!
It’s so normal to have voice cracks. Lmao. I’ve cracked my voice several times. People loved to point out Jisoo’s voice cracks as if they can sing well. (I damaged mine due to constant sore throats)
Shuhua has been criticized by Knetz due to her thick accent when speaking Korean. She was the one who requested for less lines.
Despite having less lines Soyeon made sure she’ll have memorable parts in their TTs.
Also Shuhua’s voice is like a chameleon because in their b sides you will think it was one of the other members singing but it’s actually her. She’s improved a lot too in their last comeback.
The list is so random. Picking on lia (a main vocal) for not dancing well is like picking on momo (a main dancer) for not able to sing well. Why put Lia and not Momo on the list? Considering the latter has debut much longer than Lia?
@Tiffany's pink card that's exactly my point. Some of the listed one make some sense but Lia is a bit out of place considering her role is main vocal. Am not a midzy but just voicing my opinion.
TXT have always been good performers. I think what angers people is that they got attention, fans and popularity even before their debut - as BTS' juniors. Even BH used to promote them as their juniors, not as a new group.
And the hate against Bahiyyih is completely unnecessary. It's hardly been 4 months since her debut🤦♀
Can we not play stupid and say TXT gained all their popularity from their hard work? Ofc everyone should acknowledge that they work hard and have skills and we shouldn't undermine that, but they obviously got that boost in popularity because they came from the same company as BTS.
That was their debut hype...but the hype is long gone and the bandwagon fans left. Now their popularity is coming from what TXT has to offer (in music, personalities, concepts, etc)
It's not they are not good
The thing is that their other group members are better than them
So compression make them look less talented
Idols make mistakes they are humans too netizens need to understand that idols also can make mistakes its normal you can't expect them to be perfect all the time
Really! As a casual listener of TXT I couldn't believe they are here?!! Like they are literally the most versatile group I've ever seen. In the span of 2 years, they have been making more than 30 genres of song.
Anyway, 'Good Boy Gone Bad' coming on 9th May!! When it comes to TXT I'll always excited, can't wait for the new songs..
Bro TXT???? They're good and I love all of their songs. Have you seen them perform especially the recent live performances and studio versions??? The voice, the expression, the emotion is perfect bro you can really hear their passion whenever they sing. Especially Taehyun???! My guy looks like he's been 2 divorces and the children's custody has been taken from him. 😭
Not even a MIDZY, but Lia's dancing improved TREMENDOUSLY
I LOVE Jisoo and Lia! yeah they don't have strong vocals compared to most idols but i adore their personality and their tenacity. we aren't always going to be good at our job but it is always important to not give up and still remain a positive/good person and these women show that. the rest of the idols on the list, i don't really pay attention to but even tho they don't catch my eye, i don't think they have any negative qualities. people are just mean and we can't change them - i just pray for this idols to keep their head up high
Most idols there are a hell lot of idols worse than them and both bp and itzy are not vocal focused so according to their group standard they are enough
they don’t have strong voices but they definitely have a beautiful timbre
@@hnyuq4049 yeah……
Funk Pistol, Jisoo’s voice is fit for ballads and Lia’s is fit for jazz but they can’t do high notes that well because the public likes high voices and they don’t want the girls to sound like men. But they still sound feminine to me
All the members included in the video are my biases
Just in case alot of armys become moa because of BTS but they stayed because of TXT. I barely see anyone compare them with BTS anymore. Feels like it's always K-netizens having problems with everything.
I don't think netizens compare them but just identified them as BTS's junior . However , now netizens know TXT as TXT . Korean fans are just like us you know , there are antis too ,.
I would like to comment this 1 tweet I saw on twitter -
" You would see anything in Korean and believe it " .
I know it's hard to believe but it's fact that Cha Eunwoo is an all rounder. When I watched him in gangnam beauty I didn't even know him but I love his every scene. He was so good on that show and he auditioned for that . In his next work true beauty he did outstanding performance. I don't know why are you focusing on only 1 negative review with no like. There are comments praising his acting with 10k,20k even with more likes. I hope people will not judge him just by looks. He was slightly criticised for rookie Historian but who is beyond criticism? It's ok. He was criticised at beginning but did well in end and grab awards. Looking forward to Island and Decibel. Furthermore he is an amazing ballad singer and pretty good dancer. He is well in sports and was topper too.