Dominions 6: EA Fomoria Pre-game
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2024
- This week we are checking out EA Fomoria, a land of wind and death. The Fomorians have gone through a lot, and we join them as their entire race is fading into the mists of history. Can we lead this motley crew to one last victory?
Music: "Magical Forest - Sir Cubworth" from the UA-cam Audio Library
0:00 - Intro, Overview and Units
26:23 - Sailing
27:39 - National Spells and Magic Discussion
38:56 - Pretender Designs - Ігри
Dark power just gives the listed value underground. Not sure why you're multiplying it by 3. You can also get better overview mod from workshop to have national summons show up on nation overview so you don't have to use inspector.
You are correct! For some reason my brain was still stuck on heat power from the stream! I think the point still stand about the unit.
I have grabbed the overview mod and will probably use it for videos going forward. Its much easier to see the stats in the same format as everything else.
Thanks for your videos. As a relatively new player, they are helping me quite a lot. Just finished my first playtrough with your Yomi build!
Glad its helpful. How did your Yomi game go?
First game i finished. The Dai Oni are badass and the oni spawn with End of culture is really nice.@@BabelBuilder
I vote for a meme bless: get larger to make your cap only giants into size 10 walking mountains.
You can also trample EVERYTHING
I mean at least that makes the unmarked size 7, so you can still fit something else in there with him.
Larger, blood vengeance, regen. Have your thug trample with soul vortex for never stopping trample that can even trample elephant xD
Dance of the Morgans is one of the best spells in the game. It is usually an I win button. Front line of corpse men constructs, undead or Fir blogs with your giants behind, once the chaff starts dying then Morgans come in and they will hit the enemy backline and tilt the battle in your favor. Add in the fact you can cast Wailing wind and Wind of Death you have 3 of the top battlefield wipe spells. One, if not the only that can do both with the addition of glamor without all kinds of empowerment or relaying on your God.
The Nemedian warriors are great and you use them if you go scales vs bless. The Unmarked do great if you go with the repel setup larger and +attack you can take regen in a dormant or imprisoned option with it if you want. Although the extra HP, repel does well with enchanted blood. The big boys are good for going under water or HP shields but you usually wont have many. The spear of the morgan is also one of the best weapons in the game for 8 gems and construction 3!
While +Magic is always nice, but this is one of those nations that you want luck. 2 of their 4 hero's are great. The High King with his death gaze R15 10AN AOE 20 will delete squares of units. He has fear and is a more beefer King and is H3. You also get “Tuan“ - Last Partholonian and immortal sorceress a magic phase wind of death caster.
Fomoria is powerful but difficult to play up to its full potential. You can never have enough death gems on this nation. I use to prefer Helhiem as they where a little more striaght forward to play and just as strong. The nerf to elf ponies, the glamor for air change plus the loss of blood Helhiem really got hit hard in Dom 6. While I will still play them MP they just dont have as many options as they use to in 5.
Great points all around. I haven't looked at Helhiem and didn't realize they lost blood!
@@BabelBuilder Maybe thats your next nation 😉! It was just a little blood but enough to sabbath and get higher air or death magic. Just too many nerfs all at once.
Would love to see you do a game of MA Tien chi!, love the nation but there’s so many options I don’t know how to play a game through to the end
I agree. Options are a kind of strength, but they can also be a weakness when you have to make a ton of tough decisions. Tien Chi always gets me into trouble, because I love national summons and they have so many!
A repel bless (larger + 5x atk) is pretty good on those spear-wielding sacreds; it can be taken on an imprisoned pretender for better scales and the nation needs fire magic from somewhere anyway. As others have mentioned, larger also kicks unmarked up to size 7 (to mix with Nemedians) and the barghests up to size 5 (optimal for 2 per tile). The nation doesn't have N2 mages to cast Enlarge, so getting it from the bless is the way to go.
I have not gone all in on a repel bless in 5, but these guys could have a go at it for sure! Would really help them out if you try to go underwater too.
Have you considered getting the mod that shows national summons and heroes in the pregame nation review? It’s helped me as a newer player to see some strategies before the map! Thanks for the content
very smart yeah
I actually picked it up today to test it out. This functionality should be base game. Same with showing national spells and items right at nation detail screen. :(
What’s it called
@@tjeisenman4439 better nation overview something like that
"Nation Overview" on the Steam Workshop.
My first two thoughts would be larger or awe. This nation wants to be mixing its human sized and giant sized troops, and size 7 plus size 3 is perfect. Then for awe, fomoria is I think one of the premiere morale play nations. The tankiness of units with awe goes up massively when the enemy has its morale hit. A big glamour caster can also help you cast gates of horn and ivory.
The awe idea is a great point! We could try to rush wailing winds + false horrors to really push that. We can cast frighten with the nemidion commander too.
@@BabelBuilder I think it would be fun, and they changed the way fear works in dom 6 so itd be a good test run of that strategy if nothing else.
@@BabelBuilder ua-cam.com/video/WpK3yO8zPRI/v-deo.html Dunno if youre already familiar with this spell but some of your mages can definitely do this type of play too. And you probably dont have to do ring of returning because your kings are so beefy.
I would love to see a balls out hinnom bless early game power build if that is something you would be interested in doing.
I've never actually played them with a hell bless. I usually liked them as scales oddly enough.
What elf means? In dominions 6 nothing is named elf, but you guys always referer to them
You are right, there is nothing called an elf. The term "elf" is community slang for the glamour, elite, high defense units - things like Vanir, Nemidians, Tir na N'og, ect. Kind of a catch all to talk about those units, as compared to the human stat line. Hope that helps clear it up some!
All the vanir, the tuatha and nemedians, usually elite dudes, likely mounted with glamour and elite stats.
So the "ancient, magical, beautifully race" from our myths, and a pain in the ass to fight in Dominions.
Also in Dom 5 glamour/mirror image was WAY stronger meaning that even with a small squad of sneaking troop you could conquer province! Leading to the term "elfing" meaning you sneak a small squad of those "elf" into every future ennemy province more or less and when you declare war the entire ennemy land change color xD. And you never stop meaning that NO province would be safe from attack and you can't really know where it would come from
Okay, thast enlightening, but what glamour does exactly?
@@blackleon1708 Glamour/mirror image (cause glamour is also a magic path now) make false image of the unit on the field number depending of the strength of the glamour.
When you attack you randomly attack either the original or the image. Exemple if you have 5 image you have 6 target meaning 1/6th chance to attack the true unit.
In dom 5 if you hit a false image nothing happen and the only way to remove it was to DOMMAGE (so after defense and protection roll) the real unit , that you have 1/6th chance to even try to roll against ... REALLY strong !
In dom 6 now when you hit a false image you destroy it meaning it get reduced quickly
Earth Pretender to get crafting Hammers?
I think the basic sacred troops are probably something you pick up some of to follow your Prophet and Pretender around rather than something you focus on a lot so you probably pick your Bless with other troops in mind and pass on them altogether if they don't seem good value with it. Sacred Summons are interesting though! (but apparently I always think that)
I am also always drawn to sacred summons. I like these ones, but I don't know if they are really good enough to focus on.
Are they good enough to ben an entertaining experiment? Unless I've gone nuts this is for a single player game.@@BabelBuilder
Size 6 is clearly supposed to mix with size 3s
7:55 Slightly interesting that the Fir Bolg Champion has no helmet but does have a helmet slot so if you put one on him you get its full bonus. Probably not interesting enough to actually put one on him though!
18:10 Militia might be useful for throwing in front of charges or maybe sieging or patrolling? (I don't know how those work out in terms of gold efficiency)
22:40 Those Nemedians looks set to do some serious raiding damage behind enemy lines
27:54 "Geas" is a nightmare word with many pronunciations but the "ea" is commonly pronounced "ee" like in "bead" or "to read"
When you sign up with your local recruitment officer you will receive your very own helmet, in one of three styles!
would love to see a helheim game
We are so spoiled for choice! Imagine not playing a game with 102 playable factions! :)
I think go D7 O0P2H1G1L0M1 on either D of War with 2Attack and blood surge or D of Thunder with 2Attack, 2LR, 1Morale. Production scales and dominion to get giants (with the H3 leader) and unmarked (with an H1) and plenty of size 3 chaff to fill up. D of Thunder maybe switch to Nemidians for expand party 3. Or go imprisoned with Attack, blood surge, Blur, lightening prot.
All my sacred expansion tests were pretty lacking. Have you had good experiences expanding with this?
Yes good with D of War as + Attack getting more hits and many repels and bloodlust up half+ the time so Giants got to exp 1 quickly and snowball but paths....The main problem with unmarked was their strategic movement and early bless inefficiency as I was wrong in that they need H3 more than the big giants - so just 1 a turn with the spare holy when getting basic druids. Not sure if unmarked are non cap for 2nd fort as did not get that far yet but if they are then their repel will be useful as well. Once cap circle cleared 3 giants a turn plus the formorian mage (using up 7 dominion) which has 5+ roles in order - high speed delivery of giant reinforcements (giants+ this mage the only 2 province mover combination!), giant blesser, build a temple for indi cleric recruits, combat magic, sites...
Had to go to +3A on D of Thunder to get repels without bloodlust so only +5 lightening resist but paths more useful later I think.
I think attack, high dominion and production critical and order zero/magic 1 also needed so no room for big blesses. @@BabelBuilder
Yeah the recruit sacreds aren't imo ever worth it to bless, especially since elf expo is so good. I would love to see a meme dog build, but a caster thug bless is probably for the best.
That's quite interesting for a nation that has trouble getting Bless up since it's always-on (I think).
Personally, I think trying to bless Fomoria's troops is a mistake. They're just not good enough, but you've got a number of interesting commander chassis that could have a number of blesses on them. A mage bless wouldn't be bad, nor would a thug bless. I think a thug bless probably adds the most depth to your nation, as all of your basic mages can cloud trapeze, and honestly your recruitable giants will benefit from most of the same stuff.
You could also consider any blesses to be unnecessary and instead use your god pretty much exclusively for path diversity, and honestly I don't think that's a bad idea either. This nation could probably benefit from. Regardless, if the nation doesn't need a god to expand and doesn't REALLY need an awake researcher, I'd pretty much always take the god Dormant. It's just free design points.
Alternately take a Fire Explosion-Swiftness bless and use Barghests like cruise missiles :P
I haven't played Formoria much at all, but on the surface, I think this analysis is correct. The giant sacred troops are a trap, I think, especially with their cost and abysmal attack density of 1. But those Kings? They don't need a whole lot of equipment to be effective thugs and they can self-buff nicely. A thug-oriented bless makes them even better.
Expensive but terrifying. Being able to Cloud Trapeeze into your enemy's territory with 4-6 of those guys would be one hell of an opener.
The sacred dogs can fit in a square with your non-king sacreds, thatll give you 2 sacred attacks per square. Kinda wish the dogs had 1 more attack but assuming you have something like awe or fear or both on them they can increase your sacred density a lot and help with morale plays. The issue remains blessing them easily.
@@feelingveryattackedrn5750 It's definitely worth considering. My big problem with it is that in my opinion you're still not accomplishing a whole lot in that square. Neither chassis is really giving you a ton to work with. Would you really get much from using your cap sacreds with the barghests as opposed to filtering them through just normal troops?
But with all that being said, what blesses are you taking that makes it worth it and are those design points or bless points better spent elsewhere?
As cool as I think the sacred troops are, I think that is my conclusion too. They just are not good enough for a bless. This is compounded by actually having other good options, unlike say, EA Agartha.
Regen is a pretty good thug bless as it is a REQUIRED component to fight any sizable force
#newtemplate 10
#form "Demilich (180)"
#prison 2
#magic 1 3
#magic 3 4
#magic 4 4
#magic 5 6
#magic 6 7
#magic 8 7
#domstr 7
#scale 1 1
#scale 2 -2
#scale 4 2
#scale 5 -1
#bless "Blood Vengeance"
#bless "Larger"
#bless "Regeneration"
#bless "Arcane Finesse"
#end
You need to survive until the third years but then you have regenerating beast that blood vengance with a penetration bonus preventing a LOT of battlefield wipe
Blood vengeance
Showing my age here but Everytime I hear "firbolg" I am taken straight back to dark age if camelot! Probobly means nothing to anyone on here but I never realised with a few modifications you could turn dominions into a dark age of camelot strategy game.
Man, if only we got a modern DAOC game. Probably be ruined by microtransaction though. :(
I mained a necro and a sorc, but had at least an alt on the other factions. What did you play?
@@BabelBuilder I was Twisty paladin and a back stab Infiltrator. It's probobly the game I miss the most, was there from day 1 launch.
Get the better pretender mod, it's make your stream a bit more interesting by having competent blesh. And don't forget about muspelheim, bring righteous vengeance for our cow God!!
Never forget.
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