Hue and SmartThings (Here's How It Gets Better)
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- Опубліковано 14 кві 2023
- Philips Hue and SmartThings have worked together for a long time! They're (mostly) great together, but there are some seriously lacking features. For example, you can't use Philips Hue Scenes in SmartThings. You also can't get products like the Philips Hue Tap Dial Switch in SmartThings, or smart home devices like the Lutron Aurora.
Your motion sensors work too, but this new integration that brings Philips Hue and SmartThings together works 1000% better!
Not only will you get every Hue device into SmartThings, but you'll also get all of the Hue Scenes. You can control by rooms, by zones, or by individual light, and it'll eliminate any popcorn lighting effect.
It's simple to use, and it'll take you minutes. It's mind-blowing good and we should all thank the Blue Yeti Software team!
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Fantastic switch! I was struggling with Hue bulbs after an unexpected brown-out and this new driver is not only stable (at least so far!) but has so much more to it! Thank you!!!!
Thank you and enjoy! 😃
Very cool Brian. There are some very nice features in this driver!
Thanks Bud! I'm sure your audience will love it too
Been using this driver for about a week now. Has a few quirks, but overall a big improvement over the native SmartThings integration.
What have you run into? I've been good for about a month now
This is awesome. Hue already exposes the lutron Aurora's Button to Matter but not the dial. This driver gives us both. Only thing that could be better if ST devices were in Hue and able to go out to Matter.
Thanks that was genuinly helpful.
Glad to help!
Hello
Great video...
I'm on IOS 17.1.1 and just installed the edge ST driver for Philips Hue.
I worked but only for my Hue lights.
No Hue motion sensors or Hue plugs where fond using the edge driver.
This is great stuff! And of course when something great comes along people want more, as do I.
I have a lot of third party switches in my hue system, at least one in each room and then some. It would be really great to be able to only add switches from each room, as you can with Lights. But hey, this i awesome. Thank you for enlighten me 🙂 and please keep up the good work.
Thanks Joakim! You know, I don't have those other switches in the Hue app so I didn't know if they would come in. I guess they didn't hey?
The third party switches come over. The green power ones do too
@@AutomateYourLife All third party switces are working flawlessly. This driver is awesome. Suddenly the possibilities for automation between ST and hue is... well almost mind blowing. I need room for more routines I guess. 😛
Second! Glad they fixed that!
Oh they didn't fix it. They got help from a great dev!
In light of Hue not allowing android notifications, I have been using an Aeotec V3 hub (a rebranded Samsung hub, effectively) instead of the Hue bridges I own. My case use is to allow Hue outdoor motion sensors to send notifications to my phone, thereafter an android app (Alertify) reacts to a keyword (kitchen, decking, hall, etc) notification from a particular sensor to allow specific ringtones (even self-recorded voice ringtones) to override my alarm and provide my now-awoken mind to comprehend which area has been triggered. The alertify app also allows you to set notifications normally, so that your phone doesn't go off in the cinema.
Anyway, I've experienced a few drop-offs on these motion sensors from time-to-time, which I think have happened before and after the turning off of Groovy for the Edge set up.
I've now bought an IKEA Tradfri plug extender to rule out distance related issues, but would this driver assist in securing communication between the Aeotec Hub and the Hue outdoor motion sensors, or is this driver only applicable if I use the Hue Bridge, which wouldn't help me with getting motion sensor notifications to my phone?
I know I could use this driver to activate lights in my house whenever motion sensors are triggered but that won't help me react if I'm asleep.
How do you folk receive alarm notifications to a silenced phone from Hue outdoor motion sensors?
Thank you.
Short answer: this only works with the hue hub
@@AutomateYourLifeHi Brian, thanks, sorry I missed your reply. I've loved your channel for a long while now. Keep up the fantastic work. 👍
Hi Brian how can I import the hue bulbs i’f added afterwards into smartthings for which I installed the edge driver..?
Yeah so just go back and add in lights again. I'd suggest just doing it from a room/group or you can add it right from the Hue Hub in SmartThings
Is there an edge driver for the old rotary style Tradfri dimmers?
I have a few of them paired to HUE and to some bulbs and it was a huge PITA to get them paired to both the hub and the bulbs.
I would like to be able to just add new Tradfri dimmers ( I have bunch of unused ones)
and pair them to HUE or ST directly and use the ST app to select which bulb/s I want them to control instead of having to pair them to the bulbs and hub.
These used to be a custom DTH for those dimmers on the old groovy platform I think that let you use the dimming function,
I think there was an official ST driver but it just let them turn the lights on or off and the rotary dimming was not enabled.
Ideally I would like to just pair them directly to the Aotec hub directly if there is a an edge driver that fully supports the, (Ie, the dimming function not just on/off) but if that is not possible the I would pair them to the HUE hub and use this new edge driver to import them.
These are great dimmers and they sued to be only $10, I bought like 5 at that price then about 20 more when Ikea put them on clearance for $1!
The CR 2032 batteries need to be changed a lot but I just bought some rechargables, it is a bit of a pain to use them though because if you over charge or under charge the batteries they won't work, CR2032 can be charged to so they give a higher voltage and the dimmers don't like that, but they are still the coolest Tradfri product Ikea ever made, I wish they would bring them back.
Sorry, I have no idea on that one
No more popcorn effect! Hallelujah, praise Jesus. I have 75+ Hue Bulbs and the staggered, popcorn effect is SOOOO annoying in rooms like the kitchen, bathrooms and dining room etc. that have 6 or more bulbs. Now I get to go redo a shit ton of automations that have individual bulbs listed. Thanks for giving me something to do this weekend, lol.
It's also worth noting that I have two Hue Bridges and both imported. I did, like another commenter, have them show up as offline with the "This device has not updated all of it status information. Please check back later" message. Rebooting the hub fixed this.
Oh great! Enjoy soooo much! I'm really loving this one.
And thanks for sharing your experience with Multiple Hue Bridges too.
Thanks so much as always for the comprehensive video @Bryan 😃 I've installed the Edge drive (lots more confidence thanks to Bud's Smart home channel - highly recommended for all things Smartthings) and have added a few rooms/lights now set up. Works really well. Only exception is the 'Alert' function which is greyed out for me on all lights 🤔 I wonder if this just me or maybe an Android phone issue? Favourites have ported across after a bit of a slim down in the hhurgh......hurghhhhhh 🤮...It's so hard to say. 'Hue app' there I said it 😁 (joke stolen from a shaven haired man in the East Midlands) but sadly the option still greyed out for 'Alerts'. Would love this functionality as it great for helping to manage a toddler who should be in their room at night! Does anyone else have this issue or just me?
I wonder what's up with the Alerts. Don't know there, but maybe you have a lot of scenes in the app and this isn't working because of that? That's my only understanding of a bug with this. Otherwise, I might suggest you have a quick back and forth with the Blue Yeti on the ST boards. Send him a message or reply to the thread.
@@AutomateYourLife thanks for the speedy response Brian! Will do 👍
Alerts are only enabled after accepting the flashing light disclaimer in the hub settings.
Oh right! Thank you Jason
@@jasont6849 yes that's it. Don't know how I missed that one 🤷♂️. Thanks both
I have 5 Hue lightbulbs from about 6 years ago that are on the Hue hub and a SmartThings hub. I have tons of other outlet, lights, switches, locks, etc. that all run off ST... Is there any way to remove the Hue hub and still use the lights? It just seems like a waste of a LAN port and power to run it for just 5 white lightbulbs... Other bulbs are pretty cheap that if I can't still use the Phillips without a separate hub I may just replace them. Thanks!
You can connect Hue bulbs directly to lots of Zigbee hubs. I don't do it, so I can't tell you how
Can someone please, tell me the name of your lamp with the black base and the large bulb with the yellow coil? Thanks very much!🙏
It's two things. A base you buy off Amazon for $10 and this: ua-cam.com/video/9UtmyllqfFU/v-deo.html
@@AutomateYourLife Thanks a lot!👍
Does this work on ST hub v2?
I've discovered the hue hub but when I go into it there is no hub link option. In fact it shows up exactly the same as the original hub.
It would be fine, but please watch our most recent video about ST
So if I already have my Hue hub and lights added to smarthings and I've set up the rooms within the ST app, if I go this route to add my rooms would I be able to just delete the individual lights/rooms I'd added previously? So I wouldn't have duplicate entries and for a cleaner look.
Yep! Just delete the old ones after you're done
@@AutomateYourLife Thanks
Hi Brian! My Philips hue indoor motion sensors no longer work with ST hub . How I can add them back. Thank you!
If you're using this driver, delete the indoor motion sensor from ST and then go back into the hub and re-add them the same way you did the first time :)
Pretty sweet. Paul Hibbert says Philips Hue isn't worth the money though.... is the thing. haha
Lol well I hope people make up their own mind 🤣🤣
I have a issue with the motion i don't see the option to add the motion, can I have a help please
Not from me, sorry. I can't do much at this point. You can ask on the boards
Hi Brian.
Behalf of the Hue lights I do not get the zones i'f created and non of the scenes are imported to the hub.
The ST Edge driver did not import the Hue switches I have to the Aeotec hub.
How come..?
You may have too much going on. Too many scenes can be the reason why this happens. Eliminate a bunch of scenes you don't use in each of the areas or zones
I don't have a link option in the newly created hue hub. Any ideas?
Reboot your network and the hubs (ST and Hue), then wait a day if it hasn't shown up. And do the same thing.
That process seems to have worked for everyone.
Hi, tried to enrol my ST hub and install the driver but when I tried to add device it is not showing the new hub. Also tried to remove the old hue hub but when I tried to search for device it still shows the old hue hub. The settings or the button to link is not there. I’m using ST V2 hub.
Is someone haveing problem like this? Tried to reboot the ST Hub as well. Thanks in advance!
This driver is dying a slow death sadly. Watch our most recent video on SmartThings to understand what's going on
I love your vids, even if they don't pertain to me. Thanks Brian!
Thanks Big Bear!
Hi Brian, I want to understand something, I have hue lights on my smartthings already but I dont have the hub.
What do I need to do ? do I need to remove all of them and the current integration , install the driver , search for the hub and from there to add my lights?
is this the process I should do ?
Your lights from Hue would all have to be attached to a Hue Hub to use this. So yes, you need a hub and to get all the lights setup on that hub.
Then install this driver and find the hub with the process you saw me use Nir.
@@AutomateYourLife I do have both hubs and right now Hue is a linked serivce in my smartthings. so now you basically say that I need to remove the linked service and install the new driver and find the hue hub etc ?
@@niravniel561 yes but do the install of this new method first to make sure it's good for you
About time Samsung caught up. Home Assistant has been able to access Hue Scenes for such a long time now.
200 devices in the app is really a major shortcoming in the modern smart home world.
No kidding hey! On both counts 😀👍
Have you tried this with a SmartThings Station? I don't see a pair button on mine.
It shouldn’t matter Frank. It’s just an edge driver onto a hub, but…sometimes it helps to do a reboot of the hue hub and your Station/network gear
Currently using a SmartThings station for the Hue edge driver. However, I can't detect the Hue bridge after clicking on 'Scan nearby'. Anybody know how to solve the issue?
I thinnnnnnnk this has been having some issues lately Justyn. Sometimes a reboot of the Hue Hub helps and all your network equipmnt
i subscribed to the drive installed. i go to add device and scan. nothing comes up. i ve restarted booth bridges and uninstalled and reinstalled the driver and nothing. any ideas.
Give it a day. Sounds like an issue on the ST side of things right now.
Does this edge driver not play with the smart lighting app in SmartThings? Do I just need to routines for my smart switches
The lighting app will be going away so I wouldn't worry too much about that, but yes they come in as lights!
@@AutomateYourLife sorry I meant I use zooz switches and turn off relay and use smart lighting app to control my smart bulbs. This edge driver won’t let me use the app with these hue rooms to control.
Hi Brian, recently, I realise that ST doesn't reflect the state of my Phillips Hue lights with the Beta driver. So for example, if I have a bulb automatically turning on at sunset, in the ST app, the bulb's state is off. The Beta app was working well up to a couple days ago. Have you experienced this?
I haven't. But since they're not updating status, maybe just try a reboot of your Hue Hub, and if that doesn't work, your network and ST hub
@@AutomateYourLife Thanks Brian. I rebooted the ST hub and so far it seems to be working perfectly.. Thanks again
Hey Brian will this edge driver work on my version 2 smartthings hub?
Should be just fine. No harm in trying though.
Still not seeing a way to link my Hue hubs even after resetting both, the ST hub and my network and waiting overnight. Thoughts?
I think this is dying a fast death now. Sorry, watch this: ua-cam.com/video/BOx8in5ab60/v-deo.html
@@AutomateYourLife sad news, but I appreciate the update. Trying to make things work between ST, Google Home & two Hue hubs has been a nightmare, so I'll look into some of these other platforms you mentioned in the new video.
Does this include the Philips Hue Smart Plug also?
I don't have one to test, but I'd assume since most other things come in just fine.
Does this work with the SmartThings Hub built into Samsung TV if activated?
It should, never tried it though
@@AutomateYourLife I've ordered the smartthings dongle. Will keep this message posted.
Everything was perfect until I opened the room that I had added in the ST app, and I don't have the Favorites option. Just on/off and dimmer options. I don t have too many scenes. By coincidence, I just bought my Hue hub and new lights yesterday. I had not added the Hue hub to ST yet. so Blue Yeti's driver was the only Phillips Hub in my ST app. Could that be the issue?
No it shouldn't be a problem at all. I think give it a little time and see if they show up...that is if you have scenes in the Hue app. Do you have a few of those in rooms when you go in?
@@AutomateYourLife I got it. I got it. There was some confusion with the old Phillips Hue devices. I wasn't paying attention when you said ALL of the devices would be populated in the room with the hub. I figured it out. Thanks for your quick response. Your videos are amazing. I only found your channel a week ago when some smart devices started dropping from my wifi. I was so confused, but I had hit the device limit for my cable providers equipment. That took me down the rabbit hole. I've been binging your videos and buying devices ever since. I thought telling Miss A what to do with smart devices was the pinnacle. I had no idea automations were even a thing until your channel. I am totally addicted now. Thank you for all of your videos. They are super helpful and easy to follow for a beginner like me.
@@notcoolzeuss ahahahaha! That's awesome Jay! I'm so excited to be able to help you take that next step!
Would this negate the need for the internet to be working all the time. Say if my internet goes down for some reason will I still be able to control my lights/plugs etc. locally?
Edge Drivers do this, so yep! :)
But FYI, in general, Hue doesn't require the internet to work with SmartThings. That control is local.
Can we presume all this applies to the Aeotec version of the Smartthings hub also?
Yes absolutely! 😀
Aeotec version is just the Smarthings Hub gen 3. :)
Had a storm last night, wifi cut out for a bit. Now smarthings saying all my philips hue devices are offline. I can control them from philips hue app no problem but they are offline in smart things. I use smartthings station and philips hue bridge. anyone have any idea how to get them to resync?
Just reboot your hubs and maybe your network
Hi Brian. I was so hopefull after seing your excelent video, but once again dissapointed. after installing the driver and added the philips hue hub, the link button is still greyed out after several reboot of ST. What do I do wrong?
Try a reboot of your network. I've seen a few folks with this issue.
I've also seen a few edge drivers with problems this week. Something is up. Maybe walk away for a few days and come back :)
@@AutomateYourLife I'm having the same issue. Unfortunately network reboot didn't help, but I'll try again another time.
JF you have a lot Stuff on the hue bridge + the st hub maybe Not work
Does this driver still work ….Stuck on the gear and linking part …just keeps popping up a message saying not ready yet
Try maybe rebooting your Hue Hub. It's still working right now, but there are changes going on with Hue and (especially) SmartThings right now.
In fact, I just do full reboots of network stuff and my hubs, then come back and try
@@AutomateYourLife Thanks I’ll try again when I get home
@@AutomateYourLife ok I uninstalled …reinstalled rebooted linked but I don’t think I’m understanding it fully ….my goal was to be able to set lights to alert set off by my water leak sensor ….am supposed to do this like I normally would through ST or is it done in the new Hue hub …sorry for being a PITA
I have 2 Hubs. Can I add this to both hubs?
Yep!
This is nice but i actually only wish for one thing. The possibility to set a transition time from one scene to an other. For exemple, i'd love the lights to turn on when the room illuminance level gets under a certain threshold in maybe 20 or 30 seconds, not instantly.
🤷 have to think about that, but not sure it's possible
@@AutomateYourLife that would be great! ^^
That is actually possible using the Hue Essentials app
@@glenster2000 really? Gonna have to look into it. But can you link hue essentials to smartthings automations?
Yeah that's gonna be the issue I think. I'm interested to hear too!
The driver allowed me to import the Hue lights from 3 bridges, but I do not see any of the scenes. Did I miss a step or place where they are stored?
It's in the video :)
I went back and watched again, and I am experiencing several differences from the video:
First Difference: When I search for devices, and it finds the only the “old” set of hue hubs. In order to get the "second" set of hubs to install , I have to press the hue hub button before I search. When I do this, ST finds the additional hubs and immediately starts importing devices. So, there is no command on the hub (time 4:07) to "start linking”.
ST does load all of the devices, and all the devices work. There are however no scenes.
Second difference: The video says that difference between the “old” hub and the “new” hub loaded with the new driver is that the hamburger menu is different. The video (3:25) says that the old hub should just have Edit/Info. On mine, I get Edit/Remove Device/Information on both the old and the new. There is no “settings” option.
Third difference: Opening the new hub (4:25), my screen does not resemble yours. I get a status: “Connected” and a list of all the connected devices, again, no scenes, only devices. There is no “Add Devices” button at the bottom” (4:48), so no ability to select room or anything else.
Android App Version 1.8.12.21; uninstalled and re-installed
Driver: Philips Hue Beta 7616e454-5cd2-d07e -53c0-443374c30a80, I’ve removed and added the Philips Hue Beta back
Other interesting things of note: When I first search for devices, the “old” hubs are installed with the Philips Hue Beta driver, and the new one has Philips Hue as the driver. This seems backwards.
@@123346ufvki66789755f yeah I'm dealing with the exact same issues you're having here. Any luck figuring it out yet? I'm so close to throwing this hub out at this point..
Does this work without the hue hub??
It does not
It worked fine for a coulple of weeks, then stopped. I tried removing it, and then it is not found when trying to re-add. If you hit the pairing button on the hue hub it is found and added -- along with every light in no room assigned. And the Hue hub does not have the options to add rooms or buttons etc. I tried removing the driver and re-adding it, but still no joy. Any ideas how to resurrect it? Maybe I should go back to the old integration?
I have gone back to the old integration, and it looks like I was getting the old integration by pressing the pairing button. I installed the driver and scan to add another device, however, unlike a few weeks ago, the new method does not bring up the hub.
I would just look at rebooting a number of your home's network devices. Your router and any switches, plus your hub. It's still working completely fine for me and I haven't touched a thing. But I see you uninstalled now.
Something odd's going on network wise because it's not finding it. I'd look at it from a network perspective!
I'm having this same issue. Have you figured anything out?
@@loganabbott9150 I have it working now, and it has been reliable since then. I can’t remember exactly how I fixed it but I got it working again.
Please could I have some help. I followed all the steps and got everything working for a while. Then today it all just stopped working. The hubs are still showing up in the app and so are all the lights but they will not respond. A select group of lights stay on in the app but they are off in reality. Lost all control of my hue devices through smart things. Everything still works in the hue app. I have reset all of my hubs smart things, hue, and restarted my network.
Something is wrong today with hue. Just hold…
That is a relief thank you for the fast update. You are the man.
Oh man what an intro, hook line and sinker
Thanks sir! Sometimes they write themselves
I have been having trouble the last few months with hue devices showing offline in the smartthings app. Thos then shows them offline in alexa so she wont control them but when i go into the hue app i can control them. I noticed from wayching your video i dont have a hue bridge showing in my smartthings app. Do you think this could solve the problem?
So now that I have enrolled and downloaded and installed the driver. The hue bridge is in my smart things app. But no settings option and no linking option. Just says no devices connected.
Same here! I thought I was the only one@@halpinio1234
v2 hub?
@@tombradley86 yeah v2 hue hub and aeotec smart things hub
Guys, I think this driver is having issues. If you watch our last video about SmartThings, things will make sense.
No settings option for me in the hub
This integration is now dead. Killed for a few reasons... ua-cam.com/video/BOx8in5ab60/v-deo.html
Doesn't seem to work on TV version of Smartthings with dongle
It should! That sucks though. Are you able to get an Edge driver for this on the hub?
The dongle, FYI, shouldn't be required at all. That's just a zigbee addition. The TV would have to have Edge Drivers to do it.
@@AutomateYourLife I do get to enroll the edge driver to my "Smartthings Hub - Samsung The Frame". I'm also able to install the "Philips Hue Beta" driver. After searching for a new device, the Smartthings Hub stalls and I get a "disconnected" status on the hub. I'm still able to control the Phillips Hue lights (old fashion) but I guess that does not require the Smartthings hub to work. Also - the search (with the Edge Driver) never returns the Phillips Hue - sucks...
Reboot network stuff. Might just pan out. Like reboot everything around your home that's in the network between the TV and the Hue Hub.
@@AutomateYourLifeHmm - I'm using wifi on my TV. That might be it. I was going to hard-wire TV to the network anyway. I will return on the findings later. Thanks Brian
Nope - Hue and TV directly connected to the router. Turn off everything. Turn on the Router, Tv, and hue. Get to enroll and install Philips Hue Beta. Able to check the driver in hub. Things seem to work. Search for Hue (pressing the blue button). Exit search before done and still see the driver. But then I get the disconnected symbol - frustrating.
Would love to see my SR-ZGP2801K4 controllers work outside the Hue hub.
FIRST :D . also this was about time we could be able to do this. but sad that its not HUE it self that do this. But thats HUE they are kinda stupid like this. Love when ppl add drivers like this and add great things like this.
Yeah this is just a great add for us Smartthings and Hue users!! Enjoy Finn!
doesnt seems working locally
All Edge Drivers work locally on the hub. This is entirely local
The hue hub was discovered but it seems to take forever to update its status in st. Is it better to restart the st hub for it to appear faster ?
What status are you waiting to update?
@@AutomateYourLife It says "this device did not updated all of its status informationplease check later" about the "new' philips hub
@@philipperostin not sure!
Maybe try a reboot of both hubs in your home, and maybe your network too.
@@AutomateYourLife I rebooted the ST hub and it did the trick, it then asked me to link the Hue hub by pushing the button. All good now, Thanks again mate.
If only I didn't have all these duplicates in Alexa app 😮💨🫤
🤷
I’ve started deactivating duplicates that I don’t need, but also putting a lower case “z” as the first letter of the device name on Alexa. That way all of the duplicates stay at the bottom of the list and out of the way
@Aaron Ruff that's a great idea! I was just adding ST at the end and still deactivating them but your idea seems better especially when device has a longer name, my ST thing is hidden sometimes all the way at the end. ST from Smartthings obviously, but these are the only duplicates that I have. I only use my Hue with TV setup and sync box, my 50+ duplicates are mainly Lutron Caseta and few Nanoleafs.