Prince Andrew, Royal Money Scandals & our right to know! | EP. 60 | Scandal Mongers Podcast
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- According to the court reports last week, Prince Andrew, Duke of York, and Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York, pocketed more than £1 million from an allegedly corrupt financier acting on behalf of a Turkish millionaire. And nobody can say why. It’s one of many obscure stories of cash flowing into royal coffers that our Andrew - Lownie - has been trying to investigate for years.
In this special episode Andrew shares some of his theories about what has been happening here - and asks questions about Prince Andrew’s time as a ’trade envoy’. Just who was he representing on these expensive foreign trips? His country or his own family? We also discuss the wider issues of royal finance and the public’s right to know about it.
Andrew has spent many frustrating months battling for access to royal and other official documents about Prince Andrew and others, but Britain’s Freedom of Information system does not appear to be very helpful.
Later in the episode we talk to the guru of freedom of information (in Britain and elsewhere) about all this - ex BBC journalist Martin Rosenbaum.
Martin Rosenbaum has also written a guide book to your rights to information
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‘Sleezy bad apples’ - Andrew you are such a gent in the way you describe the Royals who don’t deserve our respect. There is often a lot of public affection for Fergie, and especially now that she has well publicised health issues, yet the scandals associated with her are too many to count. After you had Norman Baker on I read his book and I have to say it altered my view of the Royal family. I already knew that Andrew and Fergie are masters at lining their own nests and training their daughters to do the same (Norman Baker referred to 18 holidays one year for those girls 😲), but I was stunned by the stinginess of the other royals and reluctance to be open (and grateful) for the wealth bestowed on them by the country.
I’m really looking forward to your book on the Yorks Andrew and good on you for being so quietly determined to see it through.
Thanks. Norman's book is an eye opener.
Great work. We're all getting sick of the Royal's unaccountability while so many of the country are struggling with genuine poverty.
So they bring in BILLIONS of pounds each year for the country. They are given 25% of that, including the £1.50 (I am being generous) that the people pay to sustain them and their employees. Yet the country wants to know how that money is spent (fair enough) and also people want to know what they do with their savings and what kind of investments they have? In what world do people have to tell how much personal wealth you have to an employer? Make it make sense. If you don’t want to pay for a monarchy, that’s fine, but they are not your property. If you didn’t have them, no one would care about the U.K.
I have always viewed Andrew and Sarah as the poster children for vulgarity and they have yet to prove me wrong. As a greater admirer of Mr. Lownie's books and his dedication to the truth, I find it appalling that so few reporters and historians have joined him in his fight to get important information released.
Very true - there’s been a lot of backsliding from ‘establishment’ historians and writers over this
Thanks for support which is appreciated. Not just backsliding or silence but attempts to discredit and maginalise.
@@andrewlownie2033 I so admire your ability to keep fighting. Thomas Jefferson once said, "No government ought to be without censors and where the press is free, no one ever will".
imo both of them are likely responsible for spreading malicious or divisive social media or press narratives about the KC3 or the Wales family, particularly narratives that seek to incite conflict & division within the RF between KC3, Princess Anne & Prince Edward. Like what purpose did it serve for the Daily Fail, particular journos or Royal commentators to make claims that post accession KC3 didn't want to gift the Duke of Edinburgh title to Prince Edward? Which eventually proved to be wrong? And how Duke EggYork somehow gets himself 'papped' within the vast Windsor or Balmoral estate either horseriding or fox hunting in the company of his siblings? Like how on earth would a Daily Fail photog know where to find him & Princess Anne or Prince Edward within those vast estates to get a clear shot of them?
Long May this channel Reign!!! How sad we live in a a society where the poorest of the poor are using food banks and having to provide evidence of low income, with the food banks mainly stocked by donations from shoppers. How sad the worker loses their job through redundancy and for income support have to provide evidentiary documents of savings and redundancy pay, and refusal to declare will result in denial of benefit… benefit what an insulting word… where is the benefit in having to apply for income support when the royals can refuse to declare… do the royals work so hard they earn more money than our coal miners, police service, fire service, teachers and nhs service… come on royals shame the devil and tell the truth… thank you Andrew for continuing to call for transparency
Thanks. The research has certainly been eye-opening.
I completely agree. The fact that they don't have to declare anything and they are 'exempt' from FOI is a terrible blight on our society. People that are on benefits pay a tax to pay for these royals.
Thank God for the two of you. Andrew has been a disgrace to his family. I think he and his wife are very questionable characters. I so look forward to all the work you two do to research the finances of the Yoeks . When will the Yorks go away ?
Thanks for support. I'm hoping my book will shine further light on how they have brought the monarchy into disrepute.
Much like the Kardashians and various other social diseases, I fear they will be with us always.
It's been an open secret that Andrew and Sarah were on the make for years. I wish you every success, Andrew, on detailing their sordid and unscrupulous behaviours. Loving the podcasts - the topics you cover are hitting all my sweet spots
Thanks so much. Anything else you'd like us to cover?
@@andrewlownie2033 Thank you for asking. Two ideas - 1. The Queen and Prince Charles' involvement in the sacking of the Whitlam government in 1975 2. The state of current scholarship on the JFK assassination given documents are still suppressed.
I have a hunch Spy Week will be great
@@andrewlownie2033 Thank you for asking. Two ideas - 1. The Queen and Prince Charles' involvement in the sacking of the Whitlam government in 1975 2. The state of current scholarship re: the JFK assassination especially given documents are still suppressed. I have a hunch Spy Week will be great.
We did Whitlam a year ago ua-cam.com/video/SXZkGvCjh1A/v-deo.html@@JuliaAlexandra180 and interviewed Gerald Posner ua-cam.com/video/x8fkcBtaks0/v-deo.html
Thank you Andrew, Phil, and Martin. An unsettling and sobering topic. Clearly Andrew ( Lownie ) on the warpath is a formidable force ! On the path to the truth. I am very much looking forward to his work - in - progress, Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson.
Thanks for all your support.
Many Americans laugh at Sarah attempting to “sell” anything anywhere and would prefer to a read blank sidewalk than have any interactions with anything she does. Many of us from Texas, cringe at the memory of her vulgarities involving a “supposed Texan”, with observant toddlers around. Still the classiest podcast around! Thank you for entertaining and engaging journalism.
Thanks for your kind comments.
Andrew, you speak so much sense regarding the Royal finances. Well done on your research and I could listen to your voice all day, it is so soothing and well spoken!
He’s a smoothie alright? 😊
I do think that the RF are sailing very close to the wind in their financial dealings these days. The RF are facing a number of serious questions
I worry too. More scrutiny might be a useful brake.
Prince Andrews behaviour does let the side down. It puts a cloud over his other family who work so hard. Thankyou for this show.
That's my view too.
I apologise for the previous comment, I didn't mean to disrespect the show. I meant Prince Andrew was being disrespectful to the others.
You were clear and I agree entirely@@alisonkent3119
The late Queen allowed it
Good afternoon gentleman😊 i live in Inverness and we are not amused🙄
I’m not surprised 😅
@@philmcraig 😏
Hello from Australia ( May 9th) I have just found your channel while listening to your latest interview with Lady C, and have watch more over the last 24hrs . very impressed and have subscribed. I love history and politics. I just turned 80 and am still learning. Great program , thanks.
Great to have you with us Geraldine! 🇦🇺 🇬🇧😊
I struggling to imagine why Andrew appeared so delighted at the memorial of K Constantine, when William had dropped out last minute, Thomas Kingston had just died and the King and Princess Catherine were both ill. I bet you know! This period in RF history will be so interesting to hear you unpick in the future.
He is determined to be taken back.
If I might be allowed to go slightly off topic, I have just started reading Prince Harry's controversial tell all memoir Spare. The following words are some of the most unsettling I've read in autobiography / memoir. Not for the faint hearted.
' Two years older than me, Willy [ William Windsor ] was the Heir, whereas I [ Henry Windsor ] was the Spare. This wasn't merely how the press referred to us - though it was definitely used. This was shorthand often used by Pa [ Charles Windsor - King ] , Mummy [ late Mother, Princess Diana ] and Grandpa [ paternal Grandfather, late Prince Phillip] . And even Granny [ paternal Grandmother, late Queen Elizabeth II ]. The Heir and the Spare - there was no judgement about it , but also no ambiguity. I was the shadow, the support, the Plan B. I was summoned to provide back up, distraction, diversion and , if necessary, a spare part. Blood transfusion. Speck of bone marrow. This was all made explicitly clear to me from the start of life's journey and regularly reinforced thereafter. I was twenty the first time I heard the story of what Pa allegedly said to Mummy the day of my birth : ' Wonderful ! Now you've given me an Heir and a Spare - my work is done. A joke. Presumably. On the other hand , minutes after delivering this bit of high comedy Pa, was said to have gone off to meet his girlfriend [ presumably Camilla ]. So. Many a true word spoken in jest . ' (p. 14 - 15 ).
Gee whizz.
Is this the root of the dysfunctional behaviour of the young Prince ? Might be so.
( Must add, the Prince's knowledge of the works of Shakespeare is impressive as indeed is his knowledge of modern and contemporary English history)
Might indeed be so!
First part I agree would be a bit harsh on a child - he's definitely damaged. Second part....explain please? All and everything I have read and listened to suggest the exact opposite. Unless you're joking? I'm not sure.
Ah, 2 A levels. B in art (greatly 'enhanced' by his teacher) and D in geography. Does not rate or like reading. I assume therefore, you were joking?
@@lizziestevenson1908 read his memoir and note the citations - nope , not joking
@@lizziestevenson1908 worth noting he was in denial regarding his mother's death. Not healthy.
Very interesting episode and excellent timing. You are here talking about serious financial issues about some members of the royal family that need to be looked into, and most reporters and media institutions are worried about a photo of a convalescing women and her kids, if it was photoshoped or not.
All part of the wider story of royal manipulation of media and failure of press to hold privilege to account.
Podcast request. Princess of Wales Memorial Fund. Monies are still coming in thru donations from Wills. Where are they going? The fund was closed, diverted to KP management and said to be channeled in old charities related to Chas and Diana. Eventually funds split between Will & Harry charities but Sussex charity closed when H left the UK. Where do the funds go now? The Equerry at the time the Memorial Fund closed, seemed dissatisfied as if he was busy not saying something. I don't know whether there's anything in this but it's always puzzled me.
Yes, Duke EggYork's trip to Ukraine in 2023 is worth looking into, ostensibly he travelled there as part of a British delegation, yet what exactly was he doing there?
I usually just listen to your podcasts rather than watch on UA-cam. This is nice to see you both as well as listen.
Thanks so much!
Same here. They remind me of statler and waldorf from the muppets
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You are too kind.@@TinaJesse859
🇬🇧🏴 I’ve only just fallen over this episode and I thought it was brilliant. Andrew, you remind me so much of a friend, who is no longer with us, that was so much like you. He loved to deep dive into things and he did family trees which gave him the opportunity to do that. Listening to this podcast brought back the memory of him saying that Queen Victoria, was left money in a Will that he was doing the family tree for. He said that the relative had left the money to Queen Victoria, thinking that she was in need. The family did try to get the money back but was met with total silence. I wonder how often the royal family are left money in Wills that you don’t hear of. Just love your channel xx
Being frivolous here, but imagining a scenario where Prince Andrew turns up at a bank (maybe disguised as his favourite teddy bear) and tries to tell them that he's one of his aliases.
Loving your podcasts and cannot wait for the book Andrew! There is so much more to the Yorks! Always said they deserve each other because no one else would have them! Keep up the good work!
Thanks so much Kate
I agree. The York story has not been told properly so far.
Very interesting, especially as institutional obfuscation is widely practised. I am also a monarchist and believe there should be less protection of information in particular about their finances. Until high profile representatives of the "1%" relinquish large chunks of private wealth to aid and support vast areas of need there will be little so-called civil society. Revolution is a real thing. The internet creates bot reality and illusion around the freedom of information. Why should any of the spendthrift Yorks be protected? And, my personal bugbear, why should the public be expected to fund any part of the renovation of Buckingham Palace? I hold out hope that Prince William will manage things with more transparency as well as a stronger sense of the greater good.
I suspect he will do! Otherwise the game might be up…
Certainly public opinion is changing. @@philmcraig
Nice to hear what the breakdown of FOI is exactly. Knew what it meant but wasn’t sure what the details were.
It's important we all know about and use FOI.
ooooh scandal.... can't wait for Andrew's upcoming book. I think a fun episode would be - if you could be given full access to the Windsor archives - absolutely any thing they have in their collection - what would be the five sections or topics you'd want to seek out first? I asked this question of another UA-camr a couple years back but I suggested the Vatican archives! be interesting to hear what holds the most intrigue and value down in those Windsor archives.
All the stuff destroyed such as Victoria's relationship with her servants and the possibility of illegitimate children with several royals, Duke of Kent, Princess Margaret.
@@andrewlownie2033 ohh right! forgot about the hidden Victoria stuff!! yes! brilliant!!
No spies, but instead we got FOI and porky pies. Another great episode folks.
Made me 😂
Thanks. The spy ones are pretty revelatory.
They could put our country at risk dealing with shady people
Interesting chats guys thank you ….
You’re so welcome !
Government funded trips? I think you mean TAX PAYER funded trips. The fact that PA took elites on tax payer funded trips is in itself reason for concern and some bloody explanations.
1776, 1793, 1918
Why ?
Cuzz the familys
abused their service.
They were not
serving the people.
They were,
are self serving.
The dungeons, gallows
conscriptions, colonies,
taxed into poverty.
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Agreed! The “Why’s” were answered a long time ago.
Thank you for the mention. And yes, you did pronounce my name correctly.
I am famous now!
For sure!
Zarah Tindall doesn’t have a title, so I don’t understand why she can’t accept money for having pictures taken with people. As far as I’m aware, she’s not financed in any way by the taxpayer. Fergie is another matter because she has that Duchess title.
The Brits are insanely jealous if other people earn money and they don't .
The peoples Estate
is to be managed
by a crown 👑.
A 👑 is to own nothing.
A 👑 is
not to be above the law.
The people
own
the peoples estate.
A 👑 manages
the peoples estate.
We've been
hoodwinked.
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Somehow, I knew that Beatrice would be involved.
I heard they pay the staff like 10% less than market value.
Excellent episode. In my 🇺🇸 unroyalist view, the Windsors have generationally been an eclectic mix of odd; eccentric; entitled; troubled; downright awful; with the occasional bright spot (George VI, QE II, Catherine, William). Now Harry thinks it's his job to dismantle our First Amendment, and we'd rather he stay in his lane, preferably a lane in some other country. I suppose I understand the veneration they get from the UK public in terms of tradition and history, but surely they should be viewed objectively as individuals and assessed according to individual merits or lack thereof.
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What happened to all the gold taken from miners and sent to England from the Australian gold fields Andrew.
When Charles became king he signed for gmo is ok and will not be on labels so you will not know its gmo what power has tony Blair got over the king
It seems to me there are more of the rf in it up to their necks than not. Can anyone remind me why KC had a plastic bag full of cash from a Saudi a while ago?