Those interested in the take-off distance I looked at the temp that day and it was 80 Fahrenheit, dewpoint 62 and slight right crosswind, and full fuel and 120 pounds in baggage. Chad and I were 565 pounds. 26 seconds and measured on GIS at 1900 feet. For what it's worth.
That beast sounds amazing! Just a brute! So "throaty" ... reminds me of an offroad race truck / meets float plane. You know it's good when it makes you laugh out loud on take off. That fuselage looks like it's built like a tank too. Impressive.... Thanks for sharing the video. I was fortunate to spend quite a bit of time in Beavers, Otters, and Cessna's in my early days, up in Ontario ...flying out of Knobby's in Sioux Lookout. I always said the best part of the fishing trips for me, was the ride in and out in the float plane.
That's a Funny statement, I have been flying in, and worked around commercial float planes, Beavers, 185, s and Turbo Beavers, and have never heard a commercial pilot, say "clear props" that's clearly a Rookie, Private pilot Thing 😂😂😂
Calm water and the float tips were submarining at times. I would be going up a few float sizes to start. Combined with a long time to get up on-step and airborne. Check AOA. It might be challenging trying to achieve a safe power-off landing in it's current rigging. What is the W&B? It appears from the short clip, to have pretty sketchy margins. (nose heavy). Murphy’s have good STOL characteristics this plane does not. Be safe and get an A&P or an EAA - Build Assistance to have a look, please.
Glad the UA-cam comment section experts have arrived! Keeping everyone safe one comment at a time. Amazing how you are able to diagnose all these problems from a short 360 cam video. Good thing you're keeping everyone safe👍
I have full scale aviation background & fly RC aircraft.. RC are much more sensitive to CG shifts..weight and balance can be seen immediately in hand or on balance stand & scales .. in the air we see & feel the results without mortal risk..one finds discernment of aircraft behavior is the primary focus as control is the same, but operation is MUCH simplified compared to full scale. I fly electric STOL land & float planes, on the RC we usually have ONE water rudder that doesn't retract, now more planes have two, and reverse thrust allowed by speed controllers is common.. Seems like quite a plane..big 4 blade prop tells you how much torque that engine has! What a sound! Fly safe!
*I might have noticed elevator/power control touch concern.. *Full aft elevator required until on step is typical to assure prevention of noseover..coordination of backpressure is absolute minimum control required .. Engine out float landing characteristics of this plane with its weight & feathering prop must inspire more confidence in the moment..retaining energy through roundout & flare🤔
First Rule of Floatplanes: If there are boats afloat in the area, then be sure to stay touching the water while passing them (while touching the water) at, say, 140 kts. It's important that they know that if there was a boat race, the floatplane would win by a 2:1 ratio of Top Speed on Water. After this has been accomplished, then you can takeoff and enjoy the flight.
To all the people talking about how loud it is, Generally speaking people on the ground are going to hear the prop far more than the engine exhaust note during takeoff, climb out, and cruise flight. Good looking airplane.
Ahhhh, the peaceful life in nature by the lake. I love the natural quiet where I can think and rest. The sounds of birds and the wind in the trees. Honey, what's that noise? Hear it? It's getting LOUDER! OH, THATS JUST MY NEIGHBOR WITH HIS LS BUSH PLANE WITH STRAIGHT EXHAUST. YOU'LL GET USED TO IT! HUH? I said, YOU'LL GET USED TO THE NOISE!! SORRY, I CANT HEAR YOU!! lol
I love the old school Cessna shirt. Last time I saw that was when Doug Masters wore it while flying the Snake against Notcher in Iron Eagle. 😂. “Heh heh. Tough landing fly baby”?
It is noisy but the A20’s help. FYI the audio of engine was recorded separately so that is not coming over the headphone mics. Thanks for watching we will do a follow up video this summer
I don’t know much about planes but that engine sounds tough as hell. Very cool! But if you ask me, the pontoons sure appear to sit low in the water in my opinion.
I lived up in Traverse City, Michigan for a few years and I forget what group it was but they had a bush plane fly in on west bay (lake Michigan). There were all the planes you would expect from Beavers. Otters, a few cubs, etc. The one that sticks in my mind was a guy that hated trying to pull up to his dock so he put a foot controlled fishing trolling motor in one of his floats.......lol
This is the ultimate LS swap. It sounds amazing on take off can't wait to see him add boost and 200 wet shot to it for stol comps. But it's such a big plane and heavy for it's size class but I'm sure with a few mods and stuff he will have it bush ready. I like that it has reverse that's really nice for a water plane
Cool looking rig and mean sound! Friend of mine has the moose with the Russian Turbine in it on floats as well. Do you notice it trying to "dig in" when you slack off power. Looks like you are aware of that in your taxi as you never let it just flat idle down from end of fast taxi> That becomes a nuisance as you always have to be on it and that is with two people on board as in video! Could be better with more weight behind center of gravity or plane too far forward c of g!. Good luck with it!
Cool airplane except for the engine. I knew a guy that had an S-51 with a Vette engine in it. He said it rarely went more that 10 hrs before something on the engine failed. Car engines just aren't designed for aircraft applications. This one would be perfect for an Allison.
this is a great 10 minute flight thanks, the purrr of that v8 is fabulous i would flowmaster 50's on it after an expansion chamber. Of course that is too much extra weight not needed though. That is why i am going fusion energy on my designs. Multi technology, advanced, and rock solid.
I'd go with a Pontiac 455 (aluminum block) for a few reasons: The block is the same size as a small block Chevrolet so weight is essentially the same; as such, you could make big horsepower/torque without having to rev the snot out of it. Use a cam that gets max torque at around 3200 rpm and you could run that thing forever and not worry about reliability.
Louder than it has to be - substandard! Regarding a C185 as crisp on the controls speaks for itself - no further comments possible. On the other hand the build quality seems to be very good and the colour is a seldom burgundy - nice😊
My apologies for not getting video with the cowling off we will do a follow up this summer. In the meantime check out this link for photos and specs www.moosemods.com/moose-ls3-performance-mods.html
Thanks for the comment, video was not planned so we will do a follow up this summer showing the engine, in mean time check out Moose Mods www.moosemods.com/moose-ls3-performance-mods.html
Love the moose man. What a cool beast for sure & the power is just super along with the mods. Bit heavy on fuel but that's understandable. Tks for the vid.
Those interested in the take-off distance I looked at the temp that day and it was 80 Fahrenheit, dewpoint 62 and slight right crosswind, and full fuel and 120 pounds in baggage. Chad and I were 565 pounds. 26 seconds and measured on GIS at 1900 feet. For what it's worth.
It ~seemed like you went about 3 miles and took off at 200mph.
At 525hp, I’m surprised it took that long to get off the water.
@user-jr9pb8rf8p And patey also owned his mistakes and admitted them
It did seem like the takeoff run was rather long.
That 525hp engine sounds like a. LS376/525
That idle sound is heavenly
The performance is dismal!
That thing sounds absolutely insane
Glad you like it!, He is working on a turbo so it will add 100hp we will do a follow up video
Very impressive! Long takeoff run though, was expecting it to jump off the water.
Who knew I could have all three of my favorite things together! Planes, V8s, and Water!
That brutal sound! Love it
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That beast sounds amazing! Just a brute! So "throaty" ... reminds me of an offroad race truck / meets float plane. You know it's good when it makes you laugh out loud on take off. That fuselage looks like it's built like a tank too. Impressive.... Thanks for sharing the video. I was fortunate to spend quite a bit of time in Beavers, Otters, and Cessna's in my early days, up in Ontario ...flying out of Knobby's in Sioux Lookout. I always said the best part of the fishing trips for me, was the ride in and out in the float plane.
You really can LS swap anything.
Love the reversible prop. Incredible build.
That is the beautiful sounding airplane engine I have ever heard.
We appreciate your comment and your finely tuned ears!
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Still Can't Beat the Sound of a Canadian Made 1946 Dehavilland Beaver 🦫
I love it the way pilots (not just you) say "clear prop" milliseconds before cranking
Might as well shout "heads off."
That's a Funny statement, I have been flying in, and worked around commercial float planes, Beavers, 185, s and Turbo Beavers, and have never heard a commercial pilot, say "clear props" that's clearly a Rookie, Private pilot Thing 😂😂😂
@@chetmyers7041 🤣🤣🤣
Stayed on the water longer than I would expect.
That was my thought. Pretty long slide for 525HP and only two people. I bet it would do better with Aerocets.
@@mannypuerta5086 the wingspan is shorter on those than I’d think. 36’, I believe.
hell..look at that feller sittin in the back of the plane!!! lmao!!! hes gotta be everybit of 370-380 lol
A lot longer. Agreed
@@mannypuerta5086 The long takeoff run may have something to do with the smooth water. Smooth water can hold floats down.
Calm water and the float tips were submarining at times. I would be going up a few float sizes to start. Combined with a long time to get up on-step and airborne. Check AOA. It might be challenging trying to achieve a safe power-off landing in it's current rigging. What is the W&B? It appears from the short clip, to have pretty sketchy margins. (nose heavy). Murphy’s have good STOL characteristics this plane does not. Be safe and get an A&P or an EAA - Build Assistance to have a look, please.
Bang on. Something not right.
Glad the UA-cam comment section experts have arrived! Keeping everyone safe one comment at a time. Amazing how you are able to diagnose all these problems from a short 360 cam video. Good thing you're keeping everyone safe👍
Calm water increases suction on the floats
I have full scale aviation background & fly RC aircraft.. RC are much more sensitive to CG shifts..weight and balance can be seen immediately in hand or on balance stand & scales .. in the air we see & feel the results without mortal risk..one finds discernment of aircraft behavior is the primary focus as control is the same, but operation is MUCH simplified compared to full scale.
I fly electric STOL land & float planes, on the RC we usually have ONE water rudder that doesn't retract, now more planes have two, and reverse thrust allowed by speed controllers is common..
Seems like quite a plane..big 4 blade prop tells you how much torque that engine has!
What a sound!
Fly safe!
*I might have noticed elevator/power control touch concern..
*Full aft elevator required until on step is typical to assure prevention of noseover..coordination of backpressure is absolute minimum control required ..
Engine out float landing characteristics of this plane with its weight & feathering prop must inspire more confidence in the moment..retaining energy through roundout & flare🤔
Who doesn’t love the sound of a ls
lol 😂 there are a few in the comments but they probably fly Prius powered airplanes😎
I would love to dive into this hobby. Your plane looks like a hot rod for the sky. Really cool.
First Rule of Floatplanes: If there are boats afloat in the area, then be sure to stay touching the water while passing them (while touching the water) at, say, 140 kts.
It's important that they know that if there was a boat race, the floatplane would win by a 2:1 ratio of Top Speed on Water.
After this has been accomplished, then you can takeoff and enjoy the flight.
That plane sits heavy on those 4k floats. What a machine.
To all the people talking about how loud it is, Generally speaking people on the ground are going to hear the prop far more than the engine exhaust note during takeoff, climb out, and cruise flight. Good looking airplane.
I could listen to that all day. That prop is cool....
Couldn’t agree more, Bushliner does high quality work. Their Dynon & Avidyne panels are awesome!!
Top notch for sure, no half measures there! Thanks for watching and the comment
@@SchlenkAir anytime! Keep up the great content!
Most interesting airplane seen in a very long time. Thanks
Never heard of this plane..looks big and useful
That takeoff run was loooooong for that amount of power.
Sick sounding cam in that beast!!
The sheer SOUND of that engine, I'm in love
This thing sounds amazing oh my god
I think the floats are a little off rig? Or weight and balance is off. Floats are diving.
That’s a very long take off roll for that amount of HP ? I’m off in half the time with less than half the hp
That engine sounds glorious!
Ahhhh, the peaceful life in nature by the lake. I love the natural quiet where I can think and rest. The sounds of birds and the wind in the trees.
Honey, what's that noise? Hear it? It's getting LOUDER!
OH, THATS JUST MY NEIGHBOR WITH HIS LS BUSH PLANE WITH STRAIGHT EXHAUST. YOU'LL GET USED TO IT!
HUH?
I said, YOU'LL GET USED TO THE NOISE!!
SORRY, I CANT HEAR YOU!!
lol
Hands down best sounding plane I’ve ever heard
Thank you for the comment, I hope you subscribe much more to come! just uploaded a short of it landing over power wires
I'm not a big plane guy But You Definitely Have A 1 Off NICE JOB
Dave Sparks Needs 1
Heavy D definitely needs one but then again he can afford any toy he wants and he wants a lot of them 🤑
I love the old school Cessna shirt. Last time I saw that was when Doug Masters wore it while flying the Snake against Notcher in Iron Eagle. 😂. “Heh heh. Tough landing fly baby”?
Damn that chop on the ls is amazing. Sounds great.
Really liked the camera angle on take-off and landing. You could see well what was happening
Noisy as hell, but I love a lot of it's features! That's very cool!
It is noisy but the A20’s help. FYI the audio of engine was recorded separately so that is not coming over the headphone mics. Thanks for watching we will do a follow up video this summer
@@SchlenkAir I look forward to it!
Dave you are a monster! Just like your airplane! Love it!
“In a long enough timeline, everything gets an LS” -RCR
Needs a bigger prop to use that horsepower
@CleetusMcFarland. Right up your alley.
I don’t know much about planes but that engine sounds tough as hell. Very cool! But if you ask me, the pontoons sure appear to sit low in the water in my opinion.
The only UA-cam title that is a guaranteed click from me
that thing sounds great.
I lived up in Traverse City, Michigan for a few years and I forget what group it was but they had a bush plane fly in on west bay (lake Michigan). There were all the planes you would expect from Beavers. Otters, a few cubs, etc. The one that sticks in my mind was a guy that hated trying to pull up to his dock so he put a foot controlled fishing trolling motor in one of his floats.......lol
Finally I could subscribe to the channel! Great first clip! What a spectacular machine!
Thank you very much!
Wait an ls swapped plane? That's awesome
I have an Vans RV7A ls build. Im starting to post videos of it on my channel if you want to check it out.
That thing sounds awesome!
This is the ultimate LS swap. It sounds amazing on take off can't wait to see him add boost and 200 wet shot to it for stol comps. But it's such a big plane and heavy for it's size class but I'm sure with a few mods and stuff he will have it bush ready. I like that it has reverse that's really nice for a water plane
Chad is currently building a SuperStol so subscribe to see that as we will be doing a video this summer. Thank you for commenting and watching
So many jealous complainers . I think it is a beauty. Great job! 👍🏻🇺🇸
its so sick to hear that big ol v8
Bringing the music to a pond near u
I used to puddle jump with a couple of friends. Back it the 80s out of Jack Brown's seaplane base in Ocala. 🥃👍
I've seen it all now. Bout time someone LS swapped a plane.
Been done a lot, actually. Extremely awsome!
you can LS swap anything
Man that sounds wicked..!!!!
Hell yeah brother!
Cleatus, is that you!! LOL
@@SchlenkAir lol Cleetus does love a good LS swap. And he is doing his seaplane training for the endorsement.
The LS3 is a great, proven engine, on the ground at least. I just put one in a 1959 Corvette
That thing's sounds like a stock race car! I was expecting flames to come out of that thing at one point.
18 gallons an hour 😮
What RPM is it sitting at at full power? What does the reliability look like, if you don't mind me asking?
Cool looking rig and mean sound! Friend of mine has the moose with the Russian Turbine in it on floats as well. Do you notice it trying to "dig in" when you slack off power. Looks like you are aware of that in your taxi as you never let it just flat idle down from end of fast taxi> That becomes a nuisance as you always have to be on it and that is with two people on board as in video! Could be better with more weight behind center of gravity or plane too far forward c of g!. Good luck with it!
Thanks for the comment, he did talk about adding a bit more weight in the baggage compartment.
What a beautiful sound
I use to paint a bunch of experimental rv kits in Ohio. Sweet setup
What part? Id like to build and haven't found anyone building at the few airparks I hang at
That plane sounds like its about to run a new PB in the qtr mile
im all for loud things but maybe a small muffler would make longer flights more bearable
Nearly all headsets come with Active Noise Canceling
Cool airplane except for the engine. I knew a guy that had an S-51 with a Vette engine in it. He said it rarely went more that 10 hrs before something on the engine failed. Car engines just aren't designed for aircraft applications. This one would be perfect for an Allison.
Love that sound!
Thanks for watching and commenting! We will do a follow this summer showing more of the engine. Please subscribe!
I liked and woul love to see more of this stuff.🙏🏻😉
Thank you for the comment, we have much more planned and just ordered another 360 camera, stay tuned, please subscribe and share. Thanks again!!
Ill be posting more about my Vans RV7 LS1 build/ rebuild
this is a great 10 minute flight thanks, the purrr of that v8 is fabulous i would flowmaster 50's on it after an expansion chamber. Of course that is too much extra weight not needed though. That is why i am going fusion energy on my designs. Multi technology, advanced, and rock solid.
Thanks for the comment and watching please subscribe for the follow up video
You're so full of clay
Wooooh what a choice sounding airplane. Prob get over it pretty quick on a long trip tho.
It has crazy useful load, you could put a lot of muffling and insulation and it probably wouldn't dent the useful load much at all.
Sounds exactly like a bayou airboat. Probably can be heard from 5 miles away, just like a bayou airboat. Ope!
Sounds amazing. Flies gteat to!!
I'd go with a Pontiac 455 (aluminum block) for a few reasons: The block is the same size as a small block Chevrolet so weight is essentially the same; as such, you could make big horsepower/torque without having to rev the snot out of it. Use a cam that gets max torque at around 3200 rpm and you could run that thing forever and not worry about reliability.
Ls3 is a aluminum block
All those cubes and some good heads might even make more power while keeping that reliability. Solid engine idea, id have never thought of Pontiac
Seems like every 180 series likes that little touch of power in the flare.
now that's a landing, very smooth bro.
Looks great Dave!
Yeah, pretty cool
Nice plane!
Thanks Trent!
Louder than it has to be - substandard! Regarding a C185 as crisp on the controls speaks for itself - no further comments possible. On the other hand the build quality seems to be very good and the colour is a seldom burgundy - nice😊
I subscribed just because your engine sounds sick!! Looking forward to some good content
Awesome, thanks for subscribing!!
Cessna 185 on Edo straight floats appears to be quicker off the water. Anfib makes a difference.
My grandfathers last plane was a 185 on amphib
Nice cam lope..........
Could it get off the water any slower? Something isn't right with this build.
I am waiting for him to shift gears
plane with a 2 speed is a idea i wanna see
@cleetusmcfarland there’s your new plane 👌😝 LS swap the world 🙌
What does that thing have a 5000' takeoff run?
Needs headers coming through the engine cowl like a P-51
That would look really cool
Certainly took a while to unstick. Maybe help if it had a higher lift wing (eg. Cub).
My apologies for not getting video with the cowling off we will do a follow up this summer. In the meantime check out this link for photos and specs www.moosemods.com/moose-ls3-performance-mods.html
sickest setup ever
You should invite @cleetusmcfarland to come fly that!
My gosh, that's a beautiful aircraft...(!)
Absolutely beautiful, wow
would have been nice to have seen the engine and installation.
Thanks for the comment, video was not planned so we will do a follow up this summer showing the engine, in mean time check out Moose Mods www.moosemods.com/moose-ls3-performance-mods.html
That's amazing!
That plane is legit
Love the moose man. What a cool beast for sure & the power is just super along with the mods. Bit heavy on fuel but that's understandable. Tks for the vid.
Thanks for the comment and watching..........doing final edits on our 550 hp Turbine Moose video, I hope you subscribed! thanks again
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I'm surprised you don't run mufflers with pipes under the cabin
Once I get my IA, I should really install a toolbox on my Old Town Kayak and just fix floatplanes on the lake all day... Imagine that!