As gaudy as Michael Fassbender's suits are as a lawyer in this episode, it's nice to hear his natural Irish accent as opposed to the fake American ones he's had to adapt while working in Hollywood.
I understand a parent wanting to keep his child out of trouble but one of two things would happen in real life. James would not be able to deal with his guilt and would probably turn to drink or drugs to cope thus ruining his life and running the risk that he would confess to someone. Or he would slough off his guilt easily and you'd have to face the fact that you had done a very bad job of parenting and raised someone you'd rather not know. And possibly have given them the idea that they won't ever be held accountable for their actions. This is just a can kicked down the road. Murder will out.
I can't stand it when the plot involves hurting animals, birds or the like. I know they don't do it for real, but it still makes me feel anxious and awful.
I feel identical 2 you. I almost clicked off when I saw the swan at first. And u are correct it leaves a very bad feeling all around. Be well and safe!😅
The problems of Mike's son stems from Mike abandoning his family as husband and father. Divorce affects children. Fathers are suppose to protect their families, not dump them when problems arise.
Oh my. We need each other don’t we⁉️We really do. Without empathy we all lose. Some may win for a time; but rage and wrath will have their out and then what do we have but scorched earth. Ashes to ashes we all fall down. Can we get there, can we rise 🤷🏽♀️
Wow, if Mike had shown up drunk, and verbally attacked a coworker in a place of business here in the states, he would have been out on his ass in about a second, whether it was the public or private sector, no matter the reason. Things are certainly different in Britain.
No he wouldn’t. Depends on the region, the state: his class, his race, who he knew who could influence the outcome. Who you know and where you come from matters Everywhere.
@@jeanettesdaughter sorry, but wherevever I have worked, if you're drunk, on drugs,and/or abusive you're out. I can't imagine that kind of behavior would be tolerated in any workplace situation. Where do you work that that behavior would be condoned?
Seems to me in all the contemporary narratives I’ve read and seen ( a lot) boys are having trouble becoming men who do no harm to themselves and others particularly women; and girls are having difficulty becoming women who can function fully outside the ambiguous safety of the emotionally fraught domestic sphere. Crime dramas and police procedurals show this better than any other drama. Family drama, fantasy, sci fi usually avoid the tougher stuff. It takes a mystery and a detective to look under the rocks! Well. We’re all between a rock and another hard place! Evolution, growth, change is our only way forward each on our own dealing with the shadow side and together if we’re to leave any kind of plan with hope and a future. Certainly, the children will remind you under duress that they did not ask to be born and the smart ones will tell you they don’t particularly care for all the unfinished business. What a kerfuffle!
The different pronounciation of migraine in the UK kills me; it is 1 of the few differences that strikes me silly rather than more Brilliant. Having been married for 20 yrs to a Scotsman, I adopted a lot of wonderful words that I use regularly. Having suffered for years w. migraines, I never adapted to megraines and continued with mygraines. Funny.
Disliked ending. Privileged middle class boy got away with incestual assault on his sister causing her to fall down stairs into hall. Working class boy in wrong place, wrong time. l y a ssaulting his sister causing her to panic.
O Connor keeps playing the character of a hard cop, in dealing with the people she is interrogating. She should really moderate her character to the softer side.
I intensely dislike the characters of Walker and O'Connor...I find them both really unlikeable and unlikely to get the best out of anyone they interview by their rude, arrogant attitude....Sach is a far more Officer x
Mike Walker is really soooo self-centered. Everyone I WORK with drop everything you are doing and help me with my personal problems. Really. LOL, he is such a narcissist, I hope it is just acting.
what is the young children are coming to ?? calling mother B.......!they tolerate abuse from the kids. the real killer goes Scot free for the part he played in the death ???
The father is having an affair and it is his wife's fault. Yeah right. I hope she brushes that off for the lie it is. My wife doesn't understand me. LOLL
Im really struggling with this show. If it is meant to portray some sort of reality then this police unit must be the most incompetent in the country backed up by a completely dysfunctional judicial process. While there can be some good drama and suspenseful moments - overall characterisation is inconsistent, the dialogue is at times painfully unconvincing and some of the plot twists are just absurd. Im all for suspending disbelief for the sake of a good story but this is a real stretch
Sad. Sometimes I think all adolescents between the ages of 13 and 18 should be removed from all homes, all parents for their own and everyone’s good; educated in boarding schools like the kibbutz in Israel not the torturous British public schools; given a chance at rigorous learning and training and work, medical care including therapy if they need it, arts training for the talented, athletic training , every skill set. Families even the better ones just don’t seem to be able to help teenagers make a healthy transition to young adults anymore. They do better among their peers who are kind and have positive self images anyway and they prefer the company of their own friends. Why not make sure these friends are healthy productive people who can be helpful in a safe and nurturing environment where social responsibility is an expectation as much as achievement. We lose so many of them trying to force a fit, create little and shinier copies of ourselves. Did you know one of the leading causes of death for teenagers is suicide? And the crime rates among children of all races and classes are very troubling. School shootings kill scores annually, gangs and organized crime create pimps as young as 14 and their prostitutes as young as 12 even in the allegedly nice neighborhoods! Seen any music videos lately? Just saying. The kibbutz could solve the problem of toxic or just unhappy family life and uneven resources for children of different class backgrounds. Why not invest in children as much as the military? Might not require as much military or policing if we had better people. I think we can all agree that killing kittens and pummeling your golden girls or boys to death in a fit if jealous rage are unwanted acts.
Walker’s denial about his son…. “We were dysfunctional but hold my hand up it was not My fault”! So true to his horrific character!
Rather heartbreaking. Very well done.
These two leading actors ( the lady detective and middle aged bad tempered man detective) are brilliant.
Walker and Roisin are great characters. They really make this show.
Roishin is a joke..
What a shame, the wrong place at the wrong time and then your life is over.
Thank you for posting these. I'm really enjoying them. I'm a big fan.
As gaudy as Michael Fassbender's suits are as a lawyer in this episode, it's nice to hear his natural Irish accent as opposed to the fake American ones he's had to adapt while working in Hollywood.
Took me 10 minutes to recognise him!
@@lynnecartwright3976 In fairness, he's quite recognisable from the right angle apparently... and I don't think it would take 10 minutes either :)
Classy. Also very good in Murphys Law.
I hate it when they get it wrong.
But this is how it happens in “real” life unfortunately
Depressing
Roishin is the investigating officer. So no surprise.
There ought to be a sequel for James and his father to be found out.
No thanks?
Fantastic series
Shameful family covering up the real perpetrator.
Happens more than we like to think. That is the very essence of privilege that you do not pay consequences. Someone else does.
Yep rich family
Not always rich, but poor ones also try to cover up their own offsprings, that’s a family stands for!
I understand a parent wanting to keep his child out of trouble but one of two things would happen in real life. James would not be able to deal with his guilt and would
probably turn to drink or drugs to cope thus ruining his life and running the risk that he would confess to someone. Or he would slough off his guilt easily and you'd have
to face the fact that you had done a very bad job of parenting and raised someone you'd rather not know. And possibly have given them the idea that they won't ever be
held accountable for their actions. This is just a can kicked down the road. Murder will out.
I can't stand it when the plot involves hurting animals, birds or the like. I know they don't do it for real, but it still makes me feel anxious and awful.
I feel identical 2 you. I almost clicked off when I saw the swan at first. And u are correct it leaves a very bad feeling all around.
Be well and safe!😅
Same here. It makes me sad.
I agree with you, I hate seeing any innocent animal being abused, makes me sick
I turn down the volume or jump 🦘 to another for a sec. It REALLY hurts to see.
I turn down the volume or jump 🦘 to another for a sec. It REALLY hurts to see.
Wow! This series really took off with series 9, and this series was equally phenomenal!
Thanks, I really enjoy Lynda La Plante dramas. Plus the familiar actors. 😊
I didn’t like the storyline with Walker and his kid. Wish they’d just focus on the crime story instead of very disturbing kids’ back stories.
That's realife, baby
Walker's kid is a sociopath. Killing a swan and hurting another, classic symptoms of a sociopath, Dahmer, Bundy, Gacy, etc...
Parenting isn't what it used to be...was it ever what we claimed it to mean?
Richard is a Damler. Wow, that was quite a scene with Richard and his father.
The privileged step brother should have been found guilty.
The whole point of the series is to show that sometimes the verdict is wrong.
@@pygiana16 In that case, why is it called Trial and Retribution? There was no retribution here.
The problems of Mike's son stems from Mike abandoning his family as husband and father. Divorce affects children. Fathers are suppose to protect their families, not dump them when problems arise.
Not just fathers, mothers too.
Amazing acting...
This happens everyday.🙏🏽
With a temper like that and that outburst he done in the court room ,was what got him the guilty verdict..
Mike and his endless problems
What about hurting humans.
Oh my. We need each other don’t we⁉️We really do. Without empathy we all lose. Some may win for a time; but rage and wrath will have their out and then what do we have but scorched earth. Ashes to ashes we all fall down. Can we get there, can we rise 🤷🏽♀️
Wow, if Mike had shown up drunk, and verbally attacked a coworker in a place of business here in the states, he would have been out on his ass in about a second, whether it was the public or private sector, no matter the reason. Things are certainly different in Britain.
This was not a real-life environment...😎
No he wouldn’t. Depends on the region, the state: his class, his race, who he knew who could influence the outcome. Who you know and where you come from matters Everywhere.
@@jeanettesdaughter sorry, but wherevever I have worked, if you're drunk, on drugs,and/or abusive you're out. I can't imagine that kind of behavior would be tolerated in any workplace situation.
Where do you work that that behavior would be condoned?
@SA S Mike Walker was the boss, he's a DCS, Detective Chief Superintendent, Roisin Connor was a DCI, Detective Constable Inspector.
@@scottgeorge4268 😂😏🤣
Just can't stand animals being involved cried my eyes out
No you didn't.
♥️🖤💚Y'all Care More About Animals Than Children & Homeless & Disadvantage People....👁️👁️
@@jamesbrown9553 definitely they need us
Every time John Harogate was on screen I was reminded of Ed Ames & Michael Ansara : )
🇬🇧 Terrific thanks for sharing 👍
greg wise is amazing
Seems to me in all the contemporary narratives I’ve read and seen ( a lot) boys are having trouble becoming men who do no harm to themselves and others particularly women; and girls are having difficulty becoming women who can function fully outside the ambiguous safety of the emotionally fraught domestic sphere. Crime dramas and police procedurals show this better than any other drama. Family drama, fantasy, sci fi usually avoid the tougher stuff. It takes a mystery and a detective to look under the rocks! Well. We’re all between a rock and another hard place! Evolution, growth, change is our only way forward each on our own dealing with the shadow side and together if we’re to leave any kind of plan with hope and a future. Certainly, the children will remind you under duress that they did not ask to be born and the smart ones will tell you they don’t particularly care for all the unfinished business. What a kerfuffle!
I am riveted to this series but I must live in a cave! All these crazy people. All the disordered crap done to them. I could not fathom
Aaaaarrrghhhh, what a saga.
The different pronounciation of migraine in the UK kills me; it is 1 of the few differences that strikes me silly rather than more Brilliant. Having been married for 20 yrs to a Scotsman, I adopted a lot of wonderful words that I use regularly. Having suffered for years w. migraines, I never adapted to megraines and continued with mygraines. Funny.
Disliked ending. Privileged middle class boy got away with incestual assault on his sister causing her to fall down stairs into hall. Working class boy in wrong place, wrong time.
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ssaulting his sister causing her to panic.
Horrible ending.
When was this show filmed???
2007
A whole nother world ago it seems.
Is this how it ends not fair 😢
A good story,but I feel sorry for the kid.
Doubly sorry for the victim.
Which one?. ALL the kids are screwed.
Trial and Retribution.... rarely any Retribution, and the biggest Trial is putting up with Walker's selfish shenanigans.
O Connor keeps playing the character of a hard cop, in dealing with the people she is interrogating. She should really moderate her character to the softer side.
Hated the ending
@Baby Boris There is. Sub headed "Closure".
I think the husband is a narcissist. She stayed because of the children, to kind. She should had left him years ago, sad😏
And that slime of a kid James got away with it ❗️ and Roisin knew
Such a wrong ending.
is that fassbender?
A young Carey Mulligan... dead at the bottom of the stairs. :(
I intensely dislike the characters of Walker and O'Connor...I find them both really unlikeable and unlikely to get the best out of anyone they interview by their rude, arrogant attitude....Sach is a far more Officer x
I am getting really sick of their temperaments and attitude. 😞
all these always have to make the main character have family issues. just stick to the main story line
RICH PEOPLE GETTING AWAY WITH MURDER TOO MUCH LIKE REAL LIFE GIVE ME PERRY MASON , IF OTHER EPISODES ARE LIKE THIS I WON"T WATCH MORE
Mike Walker is really soooo self-centered. Everyone I WORK with drop everything you are doing and help me with my personal problems. Really. LOL, he is such a narcissist, I hope it is just acting.
That hypnosis thing is such a trash! Such a terribly lie!
what is the young children are coming to ?? calling mother B.......!they tolerate abuse from the kids.
the real killer goes Scot free for the part he played in the death ???
The father is having an affair and it is his wife's fault. Yeah right. I hope she brushes that off for the lie it is. My wife doesn't understand me. LOLL
Beautiful glynis”makepeace” barber in this episode. Beautiful as always
Disgusting calling yr son a loser, poor kid
Im really struggling with this show. If it is meant to portray some sort of reality then this police unit must be the most incompetent in the country backed up by a completely dysfunctional judicial process. While there can be some good drama and suspenseful moments - overall characterisation is inconsistent, the dialogue is at times painfully unconvincing and some of the plot twists are just absurd. Im all for suspending disbelief for the sake of a good story but this is a real stretch
Don’t watch it then you plum !!!! 😂
What a perfectly wretched little story. I've been trying to give this program a chance but so far it has about as much appeal as examining vomit.
They caught the wrong kid... won't watch anymore of this. Kiboosh
Thats it
So
Sad. Sometimes I think all adolescents between the ages of 13 and 18 should be removed from all homes, all parents for their own and everyone’s good; educated in boarding schools like the kibbutz in Israel not the torturous British public schools; given a chance at rigorous learning and training and work, medical care including therapy if they need it, arts training for the talented, athletic training , every skill set. Families even the better ones just don’t seem to be able to help teenagers make a healthy transition to young adults anymore. They do better among their peers who are kind and have positive self images anyway and they prefer the company of their own friends. Why not make sure these friends are healthy productive people who can be helpful in a safe and nurturing environment where social responsibility is an expectation as much as achievement. We lose so many of them trying to force a fit, create little and shinier copies of ourselves. Did you know one of the leading causes of death for teenagers is suicide? And the crime rates among children of all races and classes are very troubling. School shootings kill scores annually, gangs and organized crime create pimps as young as 14 and their prostitutes as young as 12 even in the allegedly nice neighborhoods! Seen any music videos lately? Just saying. The kibbutz could solve the problem of toxic or just unhappy family life and uneven resources for children of different class backgrounds. Why not invest in children as much as the military? Might
not require as much military or policing if we had better people. I think we can all agree that killing kittens and pummeling your golden girls or boys to death in a fit if jealous rage are unwanted acts.
Amen! Also, removing God from the center of your lives is a mistake ~ practice and teach your children The Ten Commandments.
Sounds like a good idea. I don't agree on the Bible punching God idea. More God loonies, voice hearing crackpots out there than is good vir mankind.
Ok ok lol
@@amandadassonville4043 I’m sure they have religious teaching in kibbutz
You are patently off your bloody rocker, you sound like you want children brought up in a cult !!!!! 😂
Wasn't house trained...lol a puppy...a baby lol ..takes time just like a baby I hate human...no empathy with basic love. A puppy
Peculiar use of one of Mozart's most beautiful pieces at the beginning... seems rather inappropriate...
Irony is intrnded; darkness & light side by side in human nature.
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