Let's Make an ELECTRIC HYPERCART [Part 1]
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Thanks K1 Speed for sending such a ...beautiful....chassis to us!!!! We'll fix it up and absolutely humiliate you on your own track soon! :))
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Today we get started on the fastest go-kart build in the world! Lord Kirk sayds 0-60 mph in about 1.9 seconds if we can keep traction - And we can gear the top speed however fast we want it. Gonna be crazy
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If one day this go kart kills me, don’t cry because I was smiling
Never spake a truer word my lord. I will not cry for you
Today would never happen. Full fun without regrets...
Don't worry.
No suspension? yikes!
@@kungpowchickenwing pretty standard for a kart track, even the very high end ones!
@@kungpowchickenwing with 280 lbs just in batteries and motors alone, rest assured there will be suspension in the form of chassis flex.
Predictions; you're going to need larger wheels to be able to handle the speed, but especially any bumps on the track.. I'm not sure as the differential will handle the amount of torque you're going to be poking through it and the steering and brakes will both need at least a tweaking.. The steering will be too twitchy, you'll need a slower ratio or you'll get speed wobble, especially with small wheels... Suspension; you'll need at least some, it'll rattle your teeth out and be unstable..
But, I'm looking forward to this because I have a PGO Bugrider 250 that I want to convert to electric, so I'll be taking notes!
Good luck Inja, and if you don't have luck, well, it's been nice 'knowing' you! ;)
So basically it's just you sitting on a Giant battery with loads of power and a steering wheel that sounds like fun 😀 perfect
the cells are LiFePo they are alot safer then the batterys in cars (lithium ion) they are non toxic and the age slower and alot more stable they are the safest lithium battery
@zsds I'm glad we've now got battery cells like this especially if people are making more powerful machines and better motors we're getting now
@@ashpunting LifePo have been around since the 1970s they are not used in Tesla because they are not as energy dance as lithium ion
Super excited to see how it turns out and the build process.
Dude back to your roots! Upgrading insane sh*t let's goooo
Looks like an insanely fun new build.
Bruh! ,...this build will be ultimate patience test for the builders
You should do all 4 batteries on an angle. Opposite angle on the other side. It would look way cooler.
Ooooo
That's literally thinking outside the box
can't wait for the next video.
Great project, we can't wait to see the rest, lol!
Super projet, on a hâte de voir la suite, lol !
This thing is gonna be BADASS!
lookin forward to this kart build
"what could go wrong?" and they were never heard from ever again 🤣
*Step 1:* Plan for success, *Step 2:* Build your successful plan, *Step 3:* ???, *Step 4:* Profit. _...(the ??? is really just "Smoke your competitors.")_
Exaactly 🧠🧠🧠
I like your thinking woody
i need suttin like this
Killer project! Love it. Those motors are going to smoke that diff 🤘🏽
Imagine if you made THIS into a commute Pod lol.
Commute to heaven lol
Ooooooo
@@kungpowchickenwing hahahahaha
Good Luck 🤞
Looking forward to this one 🤜
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I believe in inja power
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That go-cart is going to have more power than the original Nisan Leaf 😂 but stopping it looks sketchy
Those Headway 38120 HP cells crank hard, I used 12 of them for a 4S/3P battery which powers my Kweld Spotwelder. It pumps out 1,650 instantaneous Amps. Super safe, runs cool to the touch at super high discharge. Dude that Go-cart is going to either launch hard /smoke it's tyres of the line or break an Axel. 😏 I'm sure lord curt will get it sorted to smoke the big boys. Can't wait, should be a blast. 👍👌😎
Heck yes!
Those QS motors are a great value, but I'd love to see a NetGain HyPer9 in a go cart. Make sure you support your neck before you hit the go petal.
4Wheel drive would be sick😘!!!!😎SUPER COOL😅😄 I know the tires will matter a bit; so you can put the power down to the ground!!! Be safe😅
Lord Kurt is awesome👏 Lord Kurt.. you mean Lord kart! I know, dad joke😂 Seriously the dude is pretty knowledgeable. Y’all will send this one!
Hey, wild. You want front brakes? I bought a kart from a kid out in Cali about a year ago, looks about the same except it has front brakes. Said he bought it from a kart track he had worked for. Tried to find out where you could get spare parts but he didn't really have an answer. Said the kart track ordered parts from "a web site." But I have the whole setup. We have the same axle, battery boxes, tie rods...etc. I was going to build exactly what you're building, except with one motor--so now I guess I don't have to. :D I'll get back to my electric burnout kart build. Get in touch somehow if you're interested in the kart or brakes.
Good luck with the batteries. I bought 13 24v Headway modules from batteryhookup, three maybe are usable as-is to build a 72v pack.
I've got one of those 8kw motors in an ATV and it is berzerk. Two of those is going to be literally so insane it'll be uncontrollable. >.< Will straight up spin tire like you are on ice, lol.
That's the plan 😏
Its crazy
Dope bro I can't wait to see you to smoke everyone
Excited to see the build!
Years ago I had a 2 seat go cart that weighed over 500lbs and went 70mph in about 6 seconds, it was powered by an AGNI/Lynch motor. Since then I've used that motor on a number of projects and it's simply amazing. If you need a 25lb motor that is low profile and can put out up to 50hp, look them up. Here is some dated but still useful information:
The Lynch motor is an unconventional design with a disc armature. It marries the advantages of a conventional, wound armature motor with the benefits of a flat (printed circuit) motor. It is similar to a pancake motor, but is more powerful than any of these technologies. The disc armature has magnets on both sides, doubling the available flux density and shortening the magnetic path. It therefore packs more power per pound and per cubic inch than any other motor technology. Of course such a revolutionary motor is not for every application - it is not as cheap as wound field motors, but for many applications it is a far superior motor. It has a previously unheard of power to weight ratio and also power to volume ratio. It is also highly efficient because of the double magnet design and associated short magnetic path. It also includes integral fan cooling.
The Lynch motor is an important development which spurred other motor designers to improve their products to remain competitive, such as synchronus permanent magnet machines. As a result of the competition between manufacturers the cost of high performance motors and controllers has fallen dramatically. We hope the cost of solar cells also reduces to allow renewable transportation to develop as a viable alternative to carbon fuels.
Cedric Lynch built his electric bike around a mid-drive configuration, also building one of the worlds most efficient light weight electric motors to power his rig reliably at 60-MPH for significant distances. He would later set several world records with his axial flux motor and bring it to market as the Lynch / Agni motor. Briggs and Stratton would eventually buy this technology which would lead to the Etek motor, which is now famous for making high speed efficient electric hot rods.
Cedric uses to achieve high speeds is by following the rules of aerodynamics, and building a bike that is as aerodynamic and as efficient as possible. The other builders on this list bypassed this step, and Cedric uses this bicycle as daily transportation on real commutes. Although this high-efficiency motor uses “old school” brushes, this fact allows builders to use very affordable controllers. He has proven his design choices through thousands of miles of commuting, and the Lynch motor is highly respected.
Cedric Lynch is known as the creator of the Agni Motor, a highly efficient electric motor that weighs around 25 pounds and can put out as much as 50hp.
Cedric Lynch is a British 'mad scientist' type mechanical engineer obsessed with the idea of greener transportation. His interest has been in building a super efficient yet powerful vehicle that can serve as a car replacement.
He started thinking of his own design for an electric motor in 1983 when he began entering competitions organized by the Battery Vehicle Society regarding building an efficient electric vehicle. At the time there was no reasonably priced DC motor with descent efficiency so Lynch decided to build his own utilizing modifying existing motors with old tin cans that he would spread out flat to use as cooling fins. Surprisingly using rudimentary materials and a garage work bench, Cedric was making better more efficient electric motors than any of the universities were able to manufacture in state of the art workshops.
Cedric then came up with a motor design that could be cheaply manufactured and began manufacturing his own motor that he could sell to the public in 1988 and the Lynch Electric Motor Company was born, known as LEMCO.
Cedric first used his motor to create a small boat called “The Spark” that would set an electric boat efficiency record. From there Cedric turned his attention to bicycles, an application generally considered too small for a lynch motor at that time. Cedric mounted his motor in recumbent bike, allowing him space to eventually use a set of thundersky lithium batteries.
The resulting aerodynamic recumbent bike had a top speed of 60mph and still managed an incredible range of 150 miles. Cedric rode his recumbent creation everywhere as a daily commuter, putting an amazing 50,000 miles on the machine - technically a motorbike.
Briggs and Stratton, the US firm famous for lawn mower engines, bought the technology and used it in their E-Tech Motor, and Cedric went on to manufacture his latest incarnation of his lynch design into the Agni motor, which is used in go karts, sailboats, motor boats, and even small airplanes.
The Lynch designed motors all have the same traits. Brushed motors, around 25 pounds in weight and they are able to put out enormous power compared to their weight. Sometimes as high as 50 hp (depending on amperage ran through the motor) at an incredible 98% efficiency. Lynch Motors are also the most often used motors in electric motorcycle racing applications.
Cedric's zero-emission motorcycle, which has a top speed of 120mph, was shown in action winning the world’s first zero carbon race - the TTxGP in the Isle of Mann.
The idea for the electric motor has been snapped up by the 56-year-old’’s friend Arvind Rabadia, who together with his brother Hasmuk Rabadia had been thinking of starting a business in India. They have now set up Agni Motors to make further-improved versions of Cedric’s motors
Despite Cedric’s breakthrough invention he has no formal engineering qualifications and taught himself the techniques needed to construct his engine. He first became interested in electrics when his parents bought him a book entitled How to build things from things found at home.
The Etek motor is a brushed 25-pound pancake shaped motor that puts out enormous power for its weight. Depending on amperage and voltage the Etek can easily provide between 15-horsepower and 30-horsepower reliably and consistently (11-kW / 22-kW). A perfect platform for a powerful electric bike if you do not mind the weight. Although brushless motors are considered more modern, a brushed motor like the Etek allows the builder to use very affordable controllers.
Cedric-Lynch invented the motor and sold it to Briggs and Stratton which US company produced the Etek at a lower price (around $600). In the late 90’s early 2000’s it was the way to go for a high-power / light-weight electric vehicle. Many small E-vehicle records were set using the Etek motor. Finally, the market had a relatively lightweight and powerful electric motor available to the masses.
In essence, the Etek allowed hot rodders to build electric bikes. Before the Etek very few people had ever achieved 50mph on an electric bike. Even today, Etek motors (and newer incarnations of the Etek motor) are used to make some super fast electric bikes. In the case of Liveforphysics, the fastest E-bikes ever.
Liveforphysics used a newer version of the Etek (the Agni motor), to achieve speeds of over 70mph, and dominate a recent hill-climb event.
Every Etek I have ever ridden has been characterized by brutal off-the-line acceleration, usually to a point where you have to apply the throttle very carefully or get thrown off. However, it is possible to run an Etek at a lower voltage or lower amperage and have a very manageable, safe, and sane electric bike that will not burn out on you, no matter high steep the incline.
In 2003 I purchased a complete new Briggs & Stratton electric outboard with a broken tiller handle from Barganland Liquidation on an Ebay auction. Using a dial-up modem I would start timing the refresh rate with a stopwatch 5 minutes before the auction was ending.
My $500 bid made it 4 seconds before the auction ended and I won the auction for $220. Barganland Liquidation was 5 miles from home and at that time I would bid $1.00 on about 50 items a day hoping to win 6-10 items. They charged $1.65 "local pickup fee" per item, so I got a Etek motor (not to mention the controller, wiring, throttle, and outboard assembly) for $221.65. Good times!
That's a lot of weight for that frame plus the driver make some question how maneuverable it will be with all that weight. It's really a mistake not to add front brakes with all that weight how much is it going to cost you to add disc brakes to the front
Here we go! Mario's voice *
Bah bah bah Bah bah BAH
Racing cart 4x4 super Eletric. 😅👌
You should try and a review/test on a onebot t6f
Surely no suspension at those speeds will cause huge stress to your battery packs ?
nice!
I thought the Fardriver 96v controllers were only rated for 115v. Will a full 116.8v cause any issues or do they actually have 120v rated components but just don't tell anyone?
Exactly that. They actually do to 120 according to their sales
Insane
Where did you get the motors, and do they make one for 70HP ? I want to make my reverse trike electric, I'm sure it would have a bit more torque than the 659 V twin has
I can't wait to see this kart tearing around a track or roads
Garage upgrade when?
Ohhhhhh damn
I know they didn't sponsor but could you provide links for all the parts!
Yeah we will when it starts getting out together! The later videos always have a full list of parts with links!
There is 0 chance of your tiny tires keeping traction with those massive motors on em 😂
Yeah that's for sure 😈 gonna figure it out as we get things installed....gotta see it before you can fix it!
@@TheInja pretty sure the motors have a wider diameter than the tires. My prediction is that one motor will be too much 😜.
Having built several 400 amp 1 man toys, I have a good idea what 1800 Amps can catch on fire.
I mean what 1800 Amps can accelerate.
That being said, to claim "fastest e-kart on the planet" and it's not even built yet is quite proud.
I'm pretty sure you will find lots of companies, people, and schools willing to challenge that claim.
Best of luck, and remember safety counts.
It's just hype man. Gonna be insanely fast when it's done.
Regardless of outcome, what we’re throwing together has the ability to be just that. Not pride, just sharing the goal. Time will tell!
@@TheInja I'd stick with the claim ... Worst case you get a bunch of challengers for epic viral videos. What could possibly go wrong?
Can u do field weakening with that controller?
You sure can
wow over kill for this prodject but thats cool with me all tho i wouldnt be the first person to test it out lol
i just realised that i have watched alot of your vids and i still have no idea how to say your channel name. 😀
The Inja, Noun
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Great video, ur channel has become an instant watch for me, however the audio from ur voice is causing peaking or crackling the audio somehow and it hurts to hear with headphones 👂🔉
Will address that issue asap! Glad you're enjoying 👊🏽
that frame gonna limit your fun. back brakes don't really work just like a motorcycle u will slip crazy my man lol cant wait to see it work lol
@ lord curt what is the voltage you are running at?
102 nominal, 116 peak!
Спасибо за интересный контент. Я сам увлекаюсь электро темой. Всегда интересно смотреть вас. Жду обзоров электро велосипедов большой мощности. Я сам езжу на фэт байке 3 кВт моторколесо заднее. Хочу 5 кВт моторколесо.
What size contactor are those... Spim08hp batteries doesn't it do the same output... So i was trying to build electric golf cart or utv ish
500 amps continuous each
@@LordCurt what happened to the utv buggy electric conversion... U have any more videos on it...
@@oa1583 I’ve had to put it on pause while working on other things, sadly. I’m hoping to be back to it soon!
@@LordCurt ok ill wait please put the prius steering wheel and column in its easy to get electric power steering with 12v i picked up one from the junk yard for 40 dollars whole assembly
I hope you'd reinforce that chassis with the torque those motors would put out. Definitely put on a roll cage!
As for body kit, make it look like a lambo!
Will be definitely looking forward to this build
Mini-scambo
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runnuing out of garage space means its time to start selling stuff guys lol
The great 2023 E-Bike liquidation sale announcement on Wednesday!!
Maybe Ifin Y'alls Make It FPV RADIO CONTROLLED, Because You'd Be Frickin Fools To Actually Ride On It!!! Plus You Could Also Go For FASTEST RC CART RECORDS THEN... 😜🤣🤣😁😎
I don't want to make you sad but I think 60 Kw won't be enough to be the fastest Go Kart on the planet, there are even stronger sorry guys 😁
I’m expecting more like 70-80 after losses, but time will tell. I’d love to see links to some footage!
What do you want to know because there are enough points. Battery, Bms, Motor, Control unit....
When the weather gets better here I'll try to break the world record 0 to 100 and 0 to 200 km/h. then all details will be published.
What I can tell you is now only 144V 1300Ah continuous current and 2600Ah peak, but I can use now just 130V 750Ah. because of overheating.
@@monsterelectricgokart dang, 750 to 2600 is quite the jump. Ambitious
that doesn't mean you can give controller 2600 Ah. that's just a good thing the cellen won't break down quickly.😉
if you build and need help I can give you enough tip. write me privately👋
This is dead....?
Eletricty bill gotta be $2000 a month.
Hahaha
"I never miss because I'm always able to adjust." Sick. Another line of many to live by. Love the build! Can't wait for it to romp around trolling people!
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This is going to be sick! Kurt is the man. I need to learn this stuff ASAP because builds are fun
I think this power train would be ideal for the Scamborgini too...
Scambo mods coming next 😏
@@TheInja ftw!
@@TheInja what do you have in mind...?
@@SniperSnake50BMG better battery/controller, overvolting the motor a lil
@@SniperSnake50BMG nothing crazy, but at least a better setup with a little better performance.
Great job on the video folks! Thanks for making it.
"Everything about it is a bad idea."
Sounds like fun.
Hello guys this will be good
NICE!!!! Builds, is what I'm here for!
It would be funny to see this smaller kart, beat a 250cc Superkart. 😉
best channel on youtube hands down can't wait for the build
Its going to be fast
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Oh this is going to be fun... Like the death mobile from Animal House...
The blue 38120 cells made by headway have a 10ah capacity and a 10c discharge but they are 3 times the price
Instead of chain drive could you not make this direct drive?
I have been waiting for this build for so long. Sick motor/battery setup
Ok where can I get the 116v Iron Phosphate pls??
A couple of tesla battery modules for power!
I'm hoping for a 1.9s 0-60 on this thing.
I think mounting the motors over the axle is a pretty bad plan. You want all weight in front of the rear axle to keep the front tires in contact with the road surface. Putting them over the axle is both raising your center of gravity and making the cart more likely to flip over backward. Batteries and motors should be as close to the center (front to back) and as low as is feasible. 50/50 weight distribution would be optimal but not likely on this frame.
There's 140lbs battery in the front/middle of the frame + 200lb driver. All motors on these karts are over the rear axle!
Cool project. Where did you buy the battery packs from?
They are definitely not called “super beast” packs that definitely did not come from Battery Hookup
Looking forward to this 1
You should put some turtle shells on the back of that to toss at people when you pass them 😏😏😏
We all know they’re only giving bananas since we’ll be in first place the whole time
Yes this looks like fun.
thisisgonnabegood
This looks like good clean fun. What could go wrong. 😊
See that's what we're thinking 😏
I did see someone build a 72v go-kart using a Sur-Ron battery
That’s like 1/5 the power of this setup 😏
@Lord Curt I know Curt this is one I'm definitely not going to miss I'll get the popcorn ready 👍🏾💯
Just wondering where Kurt got all this knowledge from. Exciting experiment but be careful with all the high performance on this go kart. You don't wanna end up ugly. Looking forward for the next part - the bulid
I love then you two build stuff 😍😍 this is extreme build 😂😂 i don't want to drive it 🙈🙈 a better gocart chassi to start with is a lot safer..
Your builds are badass! I reached out via email to you guys, hope we can talk further (:
This is the start of the next F&F movies with Dom teaching the kids how to race on stupid fast karts. I love it.
Xcited for this build gents...hope the spam car gets a engine upgrade
Yep, coming soon! Already have the parts to slap in the Scambo 😏
I can't wait to see this completed build!!