Redesigning "Historical" Halloween Costumes According to Actual Historical Evidence: Men's Edition
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[2] Shutterstock
[3] “Tombstone dedicated to Vivius Marcianus, a possible centurion of the 2nd Legion Augusta.” Roman, c. 140 - 300. The Museum of London, ID no. L162. bit.ly/3pAGihL
[4] “Shoe”, Saxon; 6th-9th century. The Museum of London, ID no. A14727. bit.ly/3CgvRmW
[5] “Military belt strap end”, Roman; c. 300 - 410. The Museum of London, ID no. MSL87[593] 325e. collections.museumoflondon.or...
[6] “Grave finding from Gammertingen Germany, 6th century”, uploaded to Pinterest by user Worldantique Antiques. bit.ly/3nvelFh
[7] “Roman jewelled ridge helmet, first twenty years of the 4th century CE, iron, gilded silver leaf, glass, gems. From the "Berkasovo treasure", Muzej Vojvodine, Novi Sad (Serbia). On display at temporary exhibition in the Colosseum (aug 2013), Rome, Italy.” Museum of Vojvodina, via Wikimedia Commons. bit.ly/2XJZXQN
[8] “Late Iron Age swords found from Finland.” Museovirasto - National board of Aniqtuities of Finland. Via Wikimedia Commons: bit.ly/3GoBH8f
[9] “Carved relief”, Roman; 2nd-3rd century. The Museum of London, ID 23083. bit.ly/3jy3No0
[10] “Portrait of Henry VIII”, after Hans Holbein the Younger, c. 1537. Walker Art Gallery, accession no. WAG 1350, via Wikimedia Commons. bit.ly/2XI6MlS
[11] “Shoe” ca. 1500 - 1550. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, accession no. 29.158.895. bit.ly/3nrDIYT
[12] Portrait of Henry IV of Saxony and Catherine of Mecklenburg (detail). Lucas Cranach the Elder and workshop, 1514. Wikimedia Commons, bit.ly/3nlvMrS
[13] “Court suit”, c. 1774 - 93. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, accession no. 32.40a-c. www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
[14] “Drawers”, 18th century. The Victoria and Albert Museum. collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O1...
[15] “Man’s Suit, France, 1780 - 1785. LACMA, accession no. M.2007.211.950a-c. collections.lacma.org/node/21...
[16] Princess Elizabeth Stuart, later Queen of Bohemia, wearing a reticella collar worked with the English royal coat of arms,[1] unknown artist, 1613, National Portrait Gallery, London. Wikimedia Commons bit.ly/3m3rZAl
[17] “Portrait of a gentleman, aged 29, three-quarter-length, in a black slashed-sleeve doublet and lace collar”, Michiel Jansz. van Mierevelt. Wikimedia Commons bit.ly/2ZaPrTz
[18] Side-by-side comparison of 1730s vs 1760s court suits via Kenna Libes (sewingwithkenna.wordpress.com... both objects originally from LACMA.
[19] “Court shoes”, 1780 - 1800. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, accession no. 2009.300.2179a, b. www.metmuseum.org/art/collect...
[20] “Formal Portrait Elegant Young Man c 1900 USA” Uploaded to Flickr by user pince_nez2008. www.flickr.com/photos/pince-n...
[21] “International menswear in the german tailoring magazine “Der Schneidermeister” 1930. French,british and american styles”. Sourced from Pinterest.
[22] “Advertising image of a union suit from the 1902 Sears, Roebuck catalog.” 1902. Via Wikimedia Commons. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
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0:00 - Introduction
1:10 - Medieval - King Arthur
6:08 - Tudor - King Henry VIII
10:53 - 18th Century - Court Suit
16:30 - Edwardian/1920s - Peaky Blinder
24:07 - In Conclusion
24:54 - A Message from Skillshare
25:56 - Important Content
When a guy in a bespoke, historically accurate outfit and immaculate wig says "I'm a hot mess" and I'm here in a ripped t-shirt and unbrushed hair...
I'm stuck in bed. This has totally cheered me up. Thanks everyone!
Hot messes come in many levels. You and I are from the lower echelons. 😂
I'm in the same boat except my t-shirt isn't ripped but it is a white t-shirt that is wildly discoloured.
@@gardeninginthedesert i really think we are peasants....
Haha same. But then I remember how I present my illustration work and how I like to dress up sometimes, but also how I’m getting ever closer to running out of clean dishes again, with the likelihood of me washing them soon being pretty low, and the fact that at this point most people wake up before I go to bed and I realize that people can be really immaculate in one specific area of their life and be complete hot garbage everywhere else.
"What are your initial thoughts?"
"Ugh, no."
*Mood*
Truth
I initially thought the critics were responding to one of Bernadette's sketches. I thought to myself, "Well, now, that's a bit rugged."
"His beard is bad. Everything is bad. I don't like him" - Gotta love Jimmy. His vibe checks are as accurate as his historical information.
He sounds like Violet Chatchki on the Pit Stop at that moment.
I mean, it is bad! :p
@@TheWelshViking s'tru
Points off for the term "platemail" though. The exact period and historicity of Arthur is kind of up in the air but that's a longer conversation.
Yeah if I saw someone wearing this I would shout "it's the Burger King!".
Say you're British without saying you're British: proceeds to calculate the drinks based on the cost of a costume. XD
Priorities.
No truer words in the comments than these
?????
"If you want to, I can grab my mannequin and dress for that."
Everyone, literally all of us: "YES! WE WANT THAT" 😄
lol, I said to the screen, "ohhhh yeahhhh"
I screamed! 🥰
😃
Bernadette looked so damn adorably excited! Like "I get to see the history on a mannequin?!?!"
Yes! I enjoyed his segment so much! The expertise is so wonderful from all of them!
Thank you so much for having Rupert and me! It was a great pleasure.
You and Rupert are always a delight! 😁✨
took a quick squizz at your channel and subbed.
Schön mal einen deutschen UA-camr in vintage fashion in einem Internationalen Video zu sehen. Hab auch abonniert 😊
When you pulled Rupert out to help with demonstrating how the clothes would look, I said, "Oh, how cool!" out loud, and then had to explain the premise of video to my sister. That was an excellent idea.
I think it would be very interesting to have you all in a "round table" discussion on how modern garment could be used to make the illusion of something that could have been warn in an other area.
I love the fact that Monty Python and the Holy grail is more historically accurate than the King Arthur costume 😂
Are you telling me that Monty Python and the Holy Grail isn't a documentary................................
*mumbles* I'm gonna have to call my history teacher about that essay
The late Terry Jones was a medievalist.
Yes. It is.
And an arthurian scholar
@@cuhlainnslane1564
NI!
18th Century - Court Suit:
“If you’re not in awe of those who rule you, are you even being ruled?”
That single statement is extremely profound.
"Everyone likes a swooshey cape." No truer words have ever been uttered😂
Edna Mode would like a word with you good person.
@@AnInkStick but but but... "NO CAPES!"
I just made my won cape and I want to make another 😆
Exactly. When I got married, a fashion designer friend of my father-in-law made a quick-deployable cape out of black parachute nylon for me so it was completely concealed behind my lapels - and when we were about to leave the church my then wife pulled the QD cord and the cape swooshed out to billow behind me as we left to the Imperial March.
Because if you can have a cape, why wouldn’t you have a cape?
Literally wearing a swooshy cape to school for low key Halloween tomorrow there so fun
‘i feel that if i went near this person with a heat gun they may be shrink wrapped’ absolutely finished me
Even my other half laughed out loud at that one!
Just like the female counterparts, the most historical accurate version is so much more visually interesting and extra than the costumes, which is kinda weird
That's why I like the 1977 hobbit movie because the men of Dale are wearing more like what the men would have wore. Also the mens hair wasn't ridiculously long as they were in peter Jackson's movies. I mean if your wearing chainmail, you may not have to have tonsured or shaved heads, but, you definitely would not wear it as long as they show it in the movies.
No, it makes total sense. Those costumes are made to be cost efficient to produce. If they made them as elaborate as their historical inspirations then they wouldn't be affordable to their target market.
@@KaptenN You have a point there!
@@KaptenN Yeah, it really makes sense for the thing those costumes are for: wearing it a few times (often probably only one time) for some party. I guess the best thing people can do is to rent costumes, because even most clothes are probably produced in miserable conditions, those poor quality costumes are probably even worse.
and significantly more expensive. how about these entitled fucks recreate the costumes for the same cost if they think they're so fucking superior.
I'm a total Arthurian nerd and I was literally making heart eyes at how well this guy knows his stuff. So many people just place Arthur in some vaguely 12th-century generically medieval setting, so it's such a breath of fresh air to see him accurately placed as a 5th-6th century Briton, and hear someone knowledgeable about the period talk about what someone from that culture would've actually worn. But then you guys went above and beyond and included little details from the legends like the Virgin Mary image on his shield! YES!
I love that you got an actual Welsh medievalist to consult on this.
Well shucks!
@@NSYresearch I actually did follow him after watching this video! He's excellent.
"I want him in mail and wool. Mail and wool... and *leather*" Dead. (:
@Kanada Dry Interesting thought, but we have most of the core elements of Arthurian legend in works of 9th and 10th century. I think it has more to do with chivalry and the development of the courtly society in 12th century. In this time, many novels about king Arthur were written, not just in England but all over Europe. These spread of Arthurian legend gave the nobility an idol of a perfect king and a perfect, courtial society which they tried to copy. That, in turn, is the reason we nowadays mix up king Arthur with generic 12th century medieval setting: Because many of the typical elements like Avalon, Lancelot and even Merlin were added in that period when the novels were written.
Ask him out dude
It was so much fun to do this and you’re being all serious and I’m just making faces and being a general loon. Love you babes x
My favourite loon xxx
It was very fun to watch! Also you with his lordship was *chef's kiss*
You and Bernadette need to do more videos together - I thoroughly enjoyed it
@@gregmunro1137 yes I agree
You are fabulous! Very entertaining and your craft is stunning🌺
"If you are not in awe of the people ruling over you, are you even being ruled?" - Zack Pinsent, 2021
I am so not in awe of those trying to rule us 😊
@@tigerlilytarot2402 Then we need to change rulers ASAP. What is even the point otherwise?
Actually a good point, and one that explains royal pagentry.
Does being in awe of their stupidity count?
@@tigerlilytarot2402 I think modern people perfer to be managed, rather than ruled.
This was so much fun! Thanks for asking me on and giving me *an entire new King Arthur impression* to put together goldurnit!!
JIMMY!!!!!
It would be so cool if you also looked at the Viking - there are some issues.
@@IXScasualty I love the way this is written. It sounds like you’re their editor. Please we need help 😂
Extra bonus points to Niklas, mostly for dressing the mannequin (and himself) so appropriately, but also the beard and styled moustache. And Zack too for dressing appropriately, wig and all.
"If you're not in awe of the people ruling over you, are you even being ruled?" Power statement, right there.
Came to say this! Completely explained the history of dress! He had so many golden lines.
Also seems to me very accurate - do not think that it anyhow mattered to peasant who exactly rules them.
Just look at the Romans. Their flamboyant power was so shocking to Europe that it's influence lasted for countless centuries after its fall. There's a reason they ruled so much of the world and built modern western civilization.
Can we have an entire video of Jimmy talking/showing more about the rainbow of natural dyes!?
You can, on his channel! See description for links.
I would love that, too!
I highly reccomend watching all of Jimmy's back catalogue of costume rants, dye-adventure and jewellery appreciation videos.
Jimmy is awesome! Dude ran a 5k in chainmail and proper woolen undergarments - for charity! I'm a fan.
He actually has a video where he tries dying. It's extreme. 😂
Honestly the 1920s costume reminded me of how historically accurate my school’s Peaky Blinders inspired version of Romeo and Juliet was. The costume designer and tech director put in SO MUCH work to make both the set and outfits look accurate. Granted, it was a high school theatre so there was only so much they could do on a limited budget lmao
Zack is very entertaining and should be in more colabs! I also like how we gently raises the ethical question of getting a one-wear outfit from a sweatshop.
He's spot on about the insane amounts of money Americans spend on cheap overseas Halloween costumes that are so disposable. when they could instead save up for or make a high end quality costume they could wear year round that would be spectacular. That being said I'm 100% guilty & hypocritical and bought a cheap "1700s" costume on Amazon to dress a plastic Halloween skeleton for a pirate party decoration.
All those costumes give me the impression of “video game character from the early 00s” in all their polygonal glory, where the colours and lines might be in a vaguely? correct? position? but there’s no concept of fabric weight or drape and the shapes are all rather limited by the crudely rendered graphics. 😂
Assassin's Creed does a rather good job with clothing. They really sink their teeth into primary sources when they're doing character design. Except for haircuts but eh, we can't have everything.
@@lolitabubbles26 Although they do take some liberties with the MC's clothing. I haven't checked this yet, but I'm 80% sure that Ezio's clothes in Brotherhood were deliberately cut to match the symbol of the Assassins'. Specifically the skirt(?) line. It's longer in the back and shorter in the front and I think the angles roughly match up. But they do a good job making it feel like it belongs in the world.
I was actually playing Brotherhood when I paused to watch this video, so it was on my mind.
I absolutely got that impression too. The photoshopped hat didn't help!
YES Bernadette bringing us the menswear historical survey we desperately crave 👌🏻
And never would of thought that we wanted!!!
Yes, my hunger for male sartorial content has been satiated!
Legitimately. As a man who sews, it gets REALLY frustrating to try to find anything historical that isn’t set in the entirely wrong setting. Like some viking “tunics” I’ve seen that were pirate/fake renaissance knockoffs lol…
Though I AM curious about why The Welsh Viking specified vegetable tanned leather, was brain tanning not a thing in Europe?
YESSSS
She didn't really show it, but ancient times is another thing in terms of menswear Hollywood and others keep screwing up. The Spartans' armor did NOT look like Romans, and Greek tunics were not like Roman togas either! A little historical research can make a world of difference. I love a lot of Hollywood's "Sword and Sandal" epics, but sometimes I have to chuckle or cringe at the inaccuracies.
Re:the conclusion, I would love if you did a video on creating a "historical impression" costume using items a 21st century person might have in their closet!
This would be so good!!!
I'm not sure Bernadette is the person to do that, she doesn't have too many 21st century things in her closet to begin with. ;-)
if we are doing 2020s, they are gonna reckon all of high society marched around in their bedclothes..
@@beth12svist rachel maksy collab??? 👀👀
Please invite Zack Pinsent back to talk more! I found him absolutely delightful! "Actual Dandy" gave me a solid chuckle.
"Historical clothes were clothes, not costumes." I had this conversation with one of the ladies in my local fabric shop when she asked if I was making a Halloween costume. (She caught me measuring myself for a cloak, because I had to calculate whether the roll had enough fabric for what I wanted to do).
I think I said something along the lines of, "When something is designed and built to be a costume, it looks like a costume, and therefore feels fake regardless of how un/familiar you are with the real thing. When something is designed to be functional clothing, it looks like functional clothing, and therefore feels real even if it's not entirely accurate in its portrayal. But if you're going to make a functional piece of clothing, you might as well make use of its functionality and, y'know, wear it."
I then explained I had already made a functional winter cloak, but it's too hot for the light chill of rainy spring or foggy autumn days. So I'm making a thinner wool cloak for the purposes of shrugging off wind and rain without trapping so much heat that I die the second the sun comes out :p
Now all you need to do is add a video or two showing of the results. :-)
As someone who wears an alt fashion that gets written off as being costumes; I very much agree with your comment.
@@EmberWing23
Zack has also received that kind of treatment from time to time, including being denied entry somewhere because they don’t allow fancy dress costume. He was wearing his usual clothes, perfectly appropriate for going out in the evening.
Wearing historical clothing is an eye opening experience. You either experience the "ok we got this part wrong because I can't move, breathe, I am going to die" or " wow this works so well why did we stop wearing this"
@@lenabreijer1311 I really depend a lot on what type of cloths you are talking about.
Much of heavy winter cloths are just that very heavy and if you do not go with the animal fur version not that good.
Arthur's also wearing a golden wyvern, famously the symbol of Wessex, quite ironic given his opposition to the Saxons
Even more ironic when you remember his surname is Pendragon (Welsh for "head dragon"). And he's even got his own coat-of-arms, featuring two gold dragons crowned with red standing back-to-back, which, if you ask me, looks WAY cooler.
@@robertmacnaughton4190 Small world! I myself have Scoti blood.
That one I’m a little forgiving, as Arthur’s title is “Pendragon”. Course Pendragon is actually an inherited name given to Arthur’s father Uther (by the way I just realized how saxons sounding the name Uther is), and considering Celtic Britain culture you were expected to make your own name, I’m questioning why that Epithet is even given in the first place.
@@dylantennant6594 Given how many iterations the Arthurian legend went through _that we know about_ (in some of the earliest versions, he isn't even a king), I'm guessing that was one of the earlier ones that didn't get passed all the way down - possibly the Saxons co-opting a story of Briton anti-Saxon resistance.
That's the cost of being a legend. Everyone else wants to tell your story.
Well I just learned something completely new today. That is very interesting that Arthur's title names him as the "head dragon" when it was also the symbol of the people he supposedly fought against. Then again, who else can take down a dragon, but another dragon?
Yet I do still find myself more drawn to the mythical versions of Arthur wielding a sword forged of Avalon steel, student of a powerful magician and slayer of ogres, compared to the more "realistic" version. I'd love to see a story that merges the interpretations and is still fun to watch.
I really want her to do an episode on painting and describing what a historically accurate King Arthur and Queen Guinevere would've worn in the 6th century AD.
As someone who absolutely loves Arthurian legend, I give this a resounding yes…a year late. A resounding yes either way.
No idea because they were a work of fiction invented...like a millenia later. So we'd have to use a version of what people a few centuries ago thought kings would dress.
@@jorriffhdhtrsegg Pro tip from a historian focused on the British Isles: if you want to try to make a wildly disproven claim and be respected for it, know the difference between 'centuries' and 'millenium'.
I would love to see a companion BB video to this that illustrates how to create a "one night only" historical look using household materials or thrifted clothes, to help out those who've been convinced not to buy the terrible amazon costumes anymore.
I like that the concept of renting a costume for a one night use was brought up--much more better than investing in cheap things that will end up a land fill!
@@robertmacnaughton4190 sounds like a great place…
@@robertmacnaughton4190 That is so sad!
@@robertmacnaughton4190 Very poetically put! Also, what a cool little piece of history to hold onto!
Can we take a moment to appreciate Bernadette’s breathtaking watercolor and pen skills?!
Let's just take a moment to appreciate Bernadette....
She seems to be quite multidimensionally talented!🧡💛💚
"After all, our lives are full of vague essences of history just waiting for creative application."
That is one heck of a statement, and I love it.
Quite interestingly, there's an RPG called "King Arthur Pendragon", based in classic arthurian mythos. It's VERY historically accurate, except in one thing. Armour. It's an in-game mechanic that when Arthur is king, because he is the True King, England begins to develop amazing armour and weapons that didn't exist for centuries. Then once he dies, the "magic" of Arthur drains away, and people begin to revert back to maille and gambeson.
“I think he’s going for 18th century… from MEMORY”. I had just taken a big swig of water I nearly choked 🤣
"If you're not in awe of the people that are ruling over you, are you even being ruled" Wow. Just wow. How the world has changed.
Yup. Now we’re being ruled by people we despise yet continuously choose to continue ruling us.
Rule isn't govern, nor administrate. Ruling as the wmbodiment of God's will on Earth means shock and awe and no apologies and kill the haters. Literally have them killed because you can do that.
@@MercenaryMuse Does outliving everyone count as well?
@@rutgerw. Like, immortality or just "we don't live in our own filth" better health standards?
@Aracnix Both I suppose. I can think of a Monarch that has had some 14 PM’s rule under Them half of wich are dead. Clearly the filth within Their family and elsewhere doesn’t bother Them. Not very impressive clothes I would say but always very on brand just like Merkel. I am sure there is some measure by which They deserve some credit...
"I want him in mail and wool.... And leather." I shall uh get my mind out of the gutter there lol.
Also Nikolas 'Menswear Connoiseur, Not an Actual Gangster' made me chuckle. And this made me think that the time period of clothing I like best is probably the early 1900s suits Nikolas was talking about. :)
omg, the male version of Bernadette!! this was actually a really cool video, i loved the passion shown by the guy for King Arthur/medieval times, you can tell that he really cares about and has extensively researched the period! also, the "Peaky Blinders" guy who just casually has a mannequin ready to dress up 😂
"Well, my first thought is that, uhm it actually isn't, ... the worst????"
THE SHADE
"nothing about this is sparking joy"
Mood, Jimmy, mood
JIMMY IS THE BEST XD
When she said "Literally *covered* the ladies..." I knew I had to subscribe.
I'd love to see more videos with Zack in them if possible, the banter and friendly chemistry between you two is really fun to watch, and Zack is very charming ^_^ (The clip of him petting Cesario like an evil mastermind really got me X3 )
He's a cutie. I have a guinea pig myself.
When Niklas started dressing his mannequin... it just blows my mind that men don't just clamber to dress like that. It looks so wonderful! Shoot, *I* want a suit like that, and I'm typically a strict femme dresser. It's just so sharp and snazzy!
As a man, Sure it looks great and who doesn't look good in a suit, but i just don't find all those layers comfortable. Unless i *need* to be presentable, i'd much rather wear a t-shirt and chinos because it's way more comfortable.
Suits are crazy expensive
You could do femme suit! A nice pencil or walking skirt to femme up the look... I may need a suit too
@@KathrynsRavens I definitely want the pants. Menswear tailored for curves.
If you've ever seen the outfits Nicole Rudolph makes... 😍
zach, in the best way possible, reminds me of the rich and pretentious suitor in ever period drama who eventually gets killed or punched in the jaw by the male lead.
Apt description
seriously thinking of the commander from the pirates of the caribbean
100%. Tbh the only low point of this video, shame
I disagree, he's being fun and pointing out the flaws of the industry and how you may better be suited to choose something else rather than the costume.
My fave part is where Zack Pinsent describes the authentic collection of court garments that inspired modern-day Halloween costumes. Zacks humor is great too and I think it would be nice to see more collaborations between him and Bernadette
As a graphic designer and avid D&D narrator, I feel like I struck absolute gold with this video and I'm not even at the 5 minutes mark.
"Our lives are full of vague essences of history, just waiting for creative application" is a GOOD LINE. Whew. Such a great point - purpose bought costumes designed explicitly to be worn once and trashed is so silly when you can make or thrift or scrounge together something that will look the same in terms of effectiveness and quality, but will save you some cash!
I love this too. I watch these costubers make all these beautifully historically accurate clothes and I’m like I want that! But I can’t sew to that extent and I don’t have the time or the passion for sewing itself to learn, and I can’t afford to buy them. Well maybe I could very rarely save up for one but then what to choose?! But I have found a lot of clothes in op shops (aka thrift stores/charity shops - I’m not sure if they’re ever called op shops outside of Australia?), or my Mum’s old closet, or markets and clothes swaps that are “vaguely historical” looking that can work for Halloween costumes or everyday wear, and are at least a lot lower percentage of plastic overall. It’s nice learning about the history so you can see what the modern, and newer vintage stuff was inspired by but then still doing your own thing with it. I especially like when it’s less like historical-ish clothes fed through a modern aesthetic like a lot of these Halloween costumes and movies, but more a blending of both which often leads to a bit more uniqueness.
My brother was a cowboy for Halloween on year. He wore a plaid shirt over a Henley, tucked everything into his plainest pair of jeans, and got suspenders, a cowboy hat, and a pair of boots from a thrift shop. He now uses the hat & boots when he does yard work (gardening to the folks in the UK)…. He did force the suspenders on the neighbor kid when his pants were … shall we say … falling down
I’m making a felt witches hat for Halloween myself.
Literally managed to costume myself for an 18th century set LARP by using some of my school uniform, with my white knee-socks pulled OVER my black tights to give the illusion of breeches, and charity shop menswear (give or take a hand-me-down). That LARP was one of my firsts, before I'd started hunting costume pieces down specifically, yet my existing history nerdery & some quick google image referencing meant all the difference in how confidently I'd feel in my costume. At the event they had probs for use, including hats - tricorn on head, I had a great time being a bumbling officer out of her depth trying to maintain "law&order" amidst a revolution. I think I was the sole surviving "loyalist" by the end of the night, all other royalists being politely murdered or collectively executed. I remain grateful to my goody-2-shoes school shoes for so thoroughly keeping me in-character at that LARP.
I won an online costume contest with stuff from my closet and a pair of suede pants I got at Goodwill. I did Calamity Jane - suede pants, suede boots, a gingham shirt over a black mock-turtleneck, leather belt and gloves, suede fringed coat and a fedora. I tied my hair back with a leather thong.
i love that "Niklas, not an actual gangster" 😭😭😭
And then he had a razorblade already in his cap. *Suspicion!*
I’m just loving watching all of these well-educated, beautifully eloquent people coming together to have these wonderfully passionate and nerdy conversations about waistcoats from hundreds of years ago.
I hope that I can find the likes of such great persons in my future.
Amazing. I never wanted to drop 4 grand on an awesome period costume more than when I see Zach rocking that whole look. If only there was an 18th century version of a Renaissance festival!
How could you not make historically accurate Dracula. Blasphemy.
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You could make an accurate Count Dracula, as in the historical figure the character is based off of
@@rabbit__ Or you could also do an accurate version of what a Transylvanian nobleman would've worn in the 1890s.
As a Romanian, I STRONGLY agree with this comment :,)
And it would’ve gone PERFECTLY either the vampire queen she critiqued in the earlier female version of this video
The last line just about summed up why historical accuracy is important “massive pockets” for holding pigs.
Bernadette’s reaction to the statement, “18th Century, from memory,” made me lol.
I love how with the Henry costume, since it was based on an actual portrait, you could do nothing but recreate the same portrait... sans codpiece. I would love to see more things like this; it's so interesting to see how the cultural perception of these time periods is so different from the reality!
Zack's into the camera "because I'm a hot mess" took me out. The modern phrasing paired with the historical dress is incredible, love it.
Bernadette, Niklas, Jimmy and Zack all in one video talking about historical men's wear what could be better? Except maybe a video of Zack walking around London with his lordship in one of his giant pockets taking the air.
I would risk covid to come over to London to see that
@@mandylavida me too.
Thank you for doing a gentleman's costume video. I loved the female version. Each of your guest were so sweet to try and find something positive, even though they were cringing at the obvious flaws. I see the editing skills you've acquired over the years. I love your work as always
I loved getting a peek into menswear.
For both this one and last year's, I would love to see an attempt at making a better version of the costumes at a similar time and price point. Like gathering components from a thrift shop and using only very basic and quick techniques to alter them.
This needs to be renamed "How to give Historical Enthusiasts an aneurism in one costume or less: Halloween Edition".
Come on, we all know Nik is really a gangster. You can't hide that from us.
Rupert is the muscle.
Nik was a long haired metal musician. I believe he still does play music, though not sure if still in a band.
Unrelated but:
How he styled/created his version of the outfit is making my heart beat go brrrrr-
It’s beautiful and AHHH
I'm a regular watcher and omg you would NOT believe my surprise to see my old friend Samantha show up here!! I always thought of her and our reenacting days whenever I watched your videos, so my eyes practically flew out of my face haha! I'm glad to know my thoughts of "man, they should totally connect sometime" were manifested. :) Loved this, as usual!! Thank you for the exciting surprise!!
Every single time I put on a longer, tunic style top I can hear Jimmy's voice say "a nice blue tunic" with that iconic Welsh accent!
I admired the gentleman that was dressed in a historically accurate garment.
Zach Pinsent! He has a channel too, it should be in the description. He's great.
There were two. Zack and Niklas (Vintagebursche).
If you were referring to Zack (the guy in the wig with Bernadette at her place) He dresses like that everyday, he owns no modern clothes.
If referring to Niklas the German guy, he's awesome too and has some very insightful videos on his channel pertaining to his area of experience.
Zach trashing the costume with so much knowledge and eloquence was just hilarious.
I would love to see him try Ouji, or EGA and get his analysis of the historical inspiration
I'd LOVE to see this become a yearly Halloween series!
Ooh yes, the real horrors of Halloween x
Yes please. Now. Right now. Please and thank you. 👍😁✌
Same here!
Definitely 👍👍
So I work in a theatrical store as a costumer, and it's blowing my mind out my butt right now to have learned that the collars on those shirts were detachable, self-contained things. I had just assumed that was what the shirts looked like. I have spent months getting frustrated that we have next to no non-modern, historical-in-any-way men's shirts, and have had to make all kinds of substitutions and allowances. Now I wonder if there is a beautiful box of collars somewhere in the building for me to work with. I can't believe I never knew or read that so many of these collars were detachable. You just mildly changed my life and saved me a lot more frustration. Bless this channel and all you amazing peoples' expertise.
I really appreciate how Bernadette brought in guest specialists to talk about the different eras - it was really nice to learn about different folks in the historical dress field!
Who else would love to see Zach and Bernadette swap eras? Edwardian dandy and regency lady.❤️
Oh YES
Seconded!
yes!!!
Yes!
Yes!!!
Zack slowly sinking to the same height as Bernadette 16:11 totally creased me up.
I love that instead of just roasting the costumes, you guys explained what they would probably wear layer for layer! Loved the paintings too
It would be so interesting to see a video about the history of costume parties, and where people in previous eras sourced their costumes from (did they come from their wardrobe? rented? made for the occasion?)
How fun for you filming this! Gentlemen who not only dress historically accurate but know what they're talking about. Thank you all for contributing to this video.
Loved seeing a male perspective from costuming / men’s clothing . Hearing from
So many different people was amazing. Loved you art work !!!
Me too, Greg!! Great gent period fashion perspects - even if Halloween costumes are the substrate - LOVE IT - they need a good makeover at any cost!!! And I will forever call dibs that BB will stand on an Oscar winning stage some day!! I hope she shouts out "Renee said it first"!!! My dream shout out : )
I love this kind of videos of yours so much 😍 also, as a German, hearing the gentleman in the intro with that charming German accent got me even more intrigued 🙈😍😂
I love that the answer to “How Would Make This King Arthur More Accurate” is basically “Make Him Prince Valiant”
Hal Foster got it in one.
"Clothes not costumes" is exactly why we refer to what we wear at Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) events as garb. They are our interpretation of historical period garments that we recreate and live in while performing daily living activities. I tend to dress Viking Age Norse (I take full liberty of the word "creative" and mix elements from 800-1100) or ancient Greek.
My persona is celtic/roman but I always where yoga pants under my tunics 😅
@@paintingdragons1828 haha yes, i usually wear leggings under my roman tunic too, because i get cold pretty easily
@@beccag5488 I'm nowhere near Pensic I'm out in Caid
I think lots of guys would *love* to rock the codpiece. Just remembering college parties and some of the get-ups guys wore. I think what bothers me most about these crappy costumes is what Zach pointed about about the wastefulness. You could go to a thrift store and get actual clothes that, with a couple key pieces and the right silhouette, would create these costumes and they would look phenomenal. And the best part is you can return them to the thrift store when you're done wearing it. Or discover an unknown love of dressing vintage.
I actually got Ruperts coat in a thrift store.
Codpiece. These days you just need to be playing hockey, where it's called a 'cup' and highly practical.
@@foamer443 I assume that's the same as a box for cricket? Cover it in a borrowed fur cuff pinned to a thin belt and you're done.
@@michellebyrom6551 Sounds......intriguing?
As the 'box' is tucked into a pocket in the jockstrap a belt is part of the assembly. And I have to assume the fur cuff would only cover the front? My, my!
YES
I sometimes thrift in my mom’s closet and a lot of the clothing she had before she was pregnant with me works great with my silhouette and I also think it’s a great way to be environmentally friendly and not waste perfectly good pieces of clothing, no matter how old. I kind of want to go thrifting in my dad’s closet but I’m a little scared lol, and a lot of the pieces of clothing he has would be great for aesthetic outfits (I love dark academia) or just being comfortable hehe.
And fast fashion just really “gets” to me in hundreds of ways: The design is disgustingly cheap, the dye job is either blinding and visually unappealing or just washed out and gross and carries a smell that could literally act as an anesthetic, the fabric rips in two seconds or turns to plastic twice as fast…you get it.
"Rupert: world renowned dress form"
as someone who needs captions for proper understanding, I really love your little touches
oh I needed this so badly!
THANK YOU !
I love hearing that you got to call upon the passionate and learned of gents clothing in those eras to guide your drawings and inform us. It was both fascinating and highly entertaining. Also Mr. Pinsent snuggling his lordship was so darn cute, I can't deal!💙
Love that everyone who understands how much time, skill, and money is required to make quality garments never fails to remind us of the plight of the working poor who make these fast fashion garments. So interesting hearing about the menswear side of things!
Thank you to you and all of your guests! This was great 👍
Love this! I’m always in awe of Bernadette’s drawings and it’s so cool we had guests this time! Would love to see Zack in more videos, your dynamic is 👌👌👌
BP: "Now we're not out to criticize these costumes..."
First dude: Maximum flamboyant bitchiness ENGAGED!
Zack Pinsent throwing SHADE 😎 !
Calling him 'first dude' wins you squillions of laughter our loud points. I cherish your words
Have a sincerely wondeful new year!
In the UK generally when I was a child in the 70s we only wore "Halloween" fancy dress, that is to say, witches, mummies, ghosts, vampires etc, to see people wearing princess dresses and other such "non-Halloween" costumes in the US was very strange.
I was a kid in the 90s but it was the same for me. I feel like the trend for just dressing up in costumes that aren't "scary" is a much more contemporary US import. And honestly I really like it because I see so much more creativity from it. Last Halloween party I went to a friend was dressed as a lobster with red oven mitts as their claws and someone who was a jellyfish with an amazing umbrella contraption with fairy lights trailing off it. It wasn't an ocean themed party it's just a coincidence that those are the fun costumes I can remember 😂. I was a cat because I'm extremely lazy when it comes to costumes lol.
@@AM-kr4pv I have no issue with fancy dress, but I'd prefer Halloween to be scary. There's nothing stopping people throwing fancy dress parties at other times of the year.
@@solatiumz I'm a big baby who gets scared and grossed out super easily so this evolution of Halloween has been perfect for me 😂. I mean I love the macabre, I'm a (super lazy) goth after all, but there's no real separation of that from the horror movie type stuff here I feel.
@@solatiumz You can throw a costume party at any time too and have it be scary then. People usually only dress up once a year and it should be something they enjoy especially children. And not everyone is going to enjoy dressing up as something "scary". Its just supposed to be fun.
I was born in England in the early 60s, and I don't remember people dressing for Halloween *at all*.
This video was incredible with the addition of other historic fashion experts giving their feedback. Thank you so much!
I so appreciate the guest interviews. You're a great collaborator.
2:20 "Nothing on this custume sparks joy in me." But Jimmy´s presence is a joy! I just watched his video about the history of intersex people!
So puffs and slashes were the ripped jeans of the 1600's?
I want to say someone else mentioned them being a result of sumptuary laws (e.g., you can only use so many yards of fabric in your outer clothing). People still wanted to be massively extra show-offs, so they came up with a work-around.
Wonderful collaboration! Thank you all for this 💗
Loved this! Even though the historical accuracy of any Halloween costume will no doubt be filtered through the lens of a relatively high blood alcohol level on the part of most observers, the "wrongness" I see in "period" Halloween costumes nonetheless gets under my skin. (Even my cat in the adjacent photo wears, by sheer accident of birth, a fairly credible tuxedo, all things considered.)
Loved "Rupert: World-Renowned Dress Form" 🤣🤣
The thing that really struck me with the Peaky Blinders costume in particular is how simple it would be to get something more period and less plastic at a thrift store in a lot of areas. I could find something that would do all those parts except maybe the hat with relative ease and it would probably be cheaper.
I actually bought Ruperts coat in a thrift store. Turning regular dress shirts into shirts that accept detachable collars is also totally doable. I did it several times.
I'm just so pleased that Peaky Blinders is included in this video. Heart eyes
I absolutely LOVE hearing everyone come together and talk about their expertise so passionately 💕
I loved all the guests!! and I also love the watercolour drawing of what the costumes would look it! I really enjoyed this video!
13:45 "the equivalent of wearing ferraris on your wrists" YES 🤣 I love that
Except, of course, not as painfully heavy.
So, would King Arthur be clean-shaven because of the Roman influences? Because we established "not *that* beard," but we didn't really come back to the history of... 5th-6th century British facial hair.
I’d assume yes, the final illustration was clean shaven so that seems to be the case.
King Arthur is Welsh folklore
@@colonyofrats4193 Thanks for the clarification. I'm more familiar with modern Arthuriana, so I tend to think of him as British.
Yes! We need to know!
@@Eloraurora "British" at that time period meant "Brythonic" anyway. Anglo-Saxons certainly were not calling themselves "British"
Just adding that I loved your interviewing, and everyone had amazing points to consider. Good to meet some that I hadn't been aware of before!
You gathered a fantastic group of co-hosts for this. Thanks for a fun video!
I absolutely LOVE Zack's analogy😂, when he said that I just imagined running around with a hair dryer and just heat gunning people in costumes and yelling over the noise "Has it Shrinked yet!!" 😂😂
"...analyzing things that probably have no business being analyzed." Your self-awareness has always been a charming feature!
Love it! I particularly love the side-by-side comparison of your lovely paintings to the original image - what a contrast!
Great vid! I loved how knowledgeable and passionate your guest were 💗