I think it's a matter of who they are inside that determines if one is cyborg, robot, or man. Does one feel more man than machine or more machine than man? Perhaps one who feels equally both machine and man is a cyborg
Well, as the #1 Esper fan, the shard is a bit more complicated than people give it credit for. For example, constructs can clearly be made out of just Etherium without having been a living thing prior so not every artifact creature on Esper was once a person even if it's true for a lot of people. Also, the card art shows things that don't seem to have really any flesh left. For example, Scornful Aether-Lich is an Artifact Creature- Zombie Wizard and its flavor text even says "With no flesh, there is no pain, no hesitation, no emotion of any kind. He is crafted perfection." -Tezzeret. If we are to argue that cyborgs need to have organic parts then Aether-Lich wouldn't be one. Nevermind how it's somehow a zombie with no zombie parts left. Ship of Theseus and all that. This also begs the question of what exactly is a cyborg for some people. Is a cyborg someone who has been a living thing at any point or is it just something with no living parts (100% machine)? Hail the machine god my friends.
Unfortunately it isn’t just the lead myr that could cause problems, if either iron or copper myr were corroded there’d also be risk of poisoning. Palladium, silver, and gold myr however would all be fair game. Must kiss small robots responsibly and all.
I think in my mind, part of the definition of robot is that is created artificially, thus excluding most cyborg-like entities such as the esperites, who were normal beings that were augmented. Silas Renn isn't a robot because he was a regular person (and still is, not all cyborgs stay human), despite his body arguably being mostly robot now. Similarly, some of the Simic's krasis I think you could even define as robots, because they were created as such, just with blood and guts instead of gears. But I'm aware "being created artificially" is a muddy thing, especially in the Magic multiverse, and aesthetics do also play a role in defining something
In my defense i watched was watching the video i felt a long enough time to comment “i love Unfinity robots” and commented within seconds of me unpausing exactly for you to then move from talking point “I love robots” to “but not Unfinity robots” so thats egg on my face.
I think a big part of what makes me define something as robot vs cyborg is really the face, or generally what the character is trying to present themselves as. Silas seemed to take great care to not replace any of his head, meanwhile someone like the aethersworn canonist basically only left their face intact. (Maybe the magic of etherium requires the face to remain flesh to anchor the soul/personality to the body?) This shows that Silas seems to really want to remain attached to his pre-etherium self while some Esperites define themselves by their post-etherium selves as much as they can. Ergo; cyborg/robot are gender identities on esper
8:35 to paraphrase a Code Geass meme:
20% Man
80% Machine
200% MOTHERFUCKING SPITE AND SCHEMES
"Oh yeah? You're a Magic super fan? Name every supertype"
Bringing a whole new meaning to "laying pipe" at 12:54
12:35 recycle it a third time but with a twist and you got yourself a nice rule of three :3
Robot 2 electric boogaloo intensifies ❤️❤️
Hell yeah! ROBOTS 2!
I think it's a matter of who they are inside that determines if one is cyborg, robot, or man. Does one feel more man than machine or more machine than man? Perhaps one who feels equally both machine and man is a cyborg
Ah yes, the mythical hot robot-kisser country. Wonder where that is!
hehehehehe, I'll never tell
Robots!
I think for me the robot/cyborg divide is the source of consciousness. Squishy carbon or shiny silicon
Yay Shideon! Go music!
Well, as the #1 Esper fan, the shard is a bit more complicated than people give it credit for. For example, constructs can clearly be made out of just Etherium without having been a living thing prior so not every artifact creature on Esper was once a person even if it's true for a lot of people. Also, the card art shows things that don't seem to have really any flesh left. For example, Scornful Aether-Lich is an Artifact Creature- Zombie Wizard and its flavor text even says "With no flesh, there is no pain, no hesitation, no emotion of any kind. He is crafted perfection." -Tezzeret. If we are to argue that cyborgs need to have organic parts then Aether-Lich wouldn't be one. Nevermind how it's somehow a zombie with no zombie parts left. Ship of Theseus and all that. This also begs the question of what exactly is a cyborg for some people. Is a cyborg someone who has been a living thing at any point or is it just something with no living parts (100% machine)?
Hail the machine god my friends.
Also, it’s the goal of Esper to replace all their organic parts with Etherium so there’s that too.
Unfortunately it isn’t just the lead myr that could cause problems, if either iron or copper myr were corroded there’d also be risk of poisoning. Palladium, silver, and gold myr however would all be fair game. Must kiss small robots responsibly and all.
One must imagine that the iron and copper myr maintain good hygiene.
@@therewillbefire1833 thank you for sharing this information. I will make sure to remember to kiss robots more resposibly
@@alexortiz9777 true
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
ROBOTS!!!!!!
“I would never kiss a cop" (9:43)
Taking this as another Jones victory, since ED-209 is unintelligent so it basically doesn't count.
A mimyr!! Praise to the Omnissiah!
Praise it!
I came from the Phyrexiand discord server : )
Love those guys :)
I think in my mind, part of the definition of robot is that is created artificially, thus excluding most cyborg-like entities such as the esperites, who were normal beings that were augmented. Silas Renn isn't a robot because he was a regular person (and still is, not all cyborgs stay human), despite his body arguably being mostly robot now. Similarly, some of the Simic's krasis I think you could even define as robots, because they were created as such, just with blood and guts instead of gears. But I'm aware "being created artificially" is a muddy thing, especially in the Magic multiverse, and aesthetics do also play a role in defining something
Starting to think this guy might like robots 🤔
In my defense i watched was watching the video i felt a long enough time to comment “i love Unfinity robots” and commented within seconds of me unpausing exactly for you to then move from talking point “I love robots” to “but not Unfinity robots” so thats egg on my face.
thats so valid, thanks for being a good sport and thanks for being my end-of-video-punchline
i think that the hottest machines are the ones with flesh, actually.
I think a big part of what makes me define something as robot vs cyborg is really the face, or generally what the character is trying to present themselves as. Silas seemed to take great care to not replace any of his head, meanwhile someone like the aethersworn canonist basically only left their face intact. (Maybe the magic of etherium requires the face to remain flesh to anchor the soul/personality to the body?) This shows that Silas seems to really want to remain attached to his pre-etherium self while some Esperites define themselves by their post-etherium selves as much as they can.
Ergo; cyborg/robot are gender identities on esper
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