5300 Year Old Survival Kit Update
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- Опубліковано 8 сер 2024
- It's been raining on and off today, so I thought I would have some fun imagining what it would be like to update a survival kit that was carried by a man 5300 years ago. Photos from the South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology website:
www.iceman.it/en/node/278
That was so much fun. It felt like candy for my brain. I can't wait to share it with my kids, who are all scouts and will appreciate your knowledge and your enthusiasm! Plus, really like the new opening title scene with flower in the wind.
Thank you, my friend. Appreciate it. The opener was made by one of my subs.
Well done! I Have picked apart Otzi's gear myself and enjoyed all aspects of the simplicity of his kit. I works well.
One things for sure brother you brought them into the modern times and I'm sure you would be a whole a lot more comfortable and very well prepared. But there's one underlying thing here that it's hard to overlook, 5300 years ago man was still killing each other and we haven't changed at all. Thanks for sharing my friend.
You pointed out the one tragic truth in the story. No survival kit could have protected him from an arrow in the back fired by evil.
Weekend Wanderer For sure.
Soooo.... Can I throw in a Kevlar vest? PLEASE! Great video.
Really enjoyed this video! Learned a lot and liked all of your gear choices. Thank you for making this!
Thanks for watching!
Ive collected knives for around 7 years and out of every knife i own the condor otzi knife is my favourite now i have around 200 knives but the story behind the otzi knife is just incredible and truly amazing so for that the otzi knife will always be my favourite and its an amazing little neck knife aswell
Nice video, it's so interesting how far we have not come. His knife and other accoutrements look so modern for being so ancient.
Agreed!
This was very interesting to watch Ty very much for sharing W.W. Learned lots :D
Thanks for the kind words.
I re-viewed this video today after watching your 19th century power drink video, in which you mentioned your habit of reading history. I've just realized what a cool creative leap it is to imagine reoutfitting Otzi with modern day equivalents of gear he used 5000 years ago. An interesting example of what can be learned when the mind and the feet are allowed to wander.
Excellent, excellent, excellent vid!!! It's as informative as, and wittier than a segment of PBS's Nova. Also, it's more fun to listen to you than Liev Schreiber's snooze-inducing narration.
LOL! Thank you, I appreciate that.
Great video!
Very interesting. We use the same stuff nowadays but of course he was man just as we are. And far tougher than we are also to live to 45 in the Alps. I would leave out the modern food. He was much better with the unmolested food from his times. No chemical infiltration and who knows what else we eat now. Maybe he had a shelter close enough for him to get too or knew where all the caves were in his area when he needed them. And put his birch polypore back in the med kit!!! Amazing then and amazing now.
+lakrabid I completely agree, my friend. I wish we had the whole story!
The modern food is unlikely to give him whipworm, from which parasite he suffered, and carried a fungal medicine that would control, but not eliminate whipworm.
Very interesting, this might just be my favorite vid of yours!
It certainly was my most difficult to film with all of the interruptions!
Well thought out. Thanks for sharing.
wow best video yet . I really enjoyed the comparison between the two kits . thanks
Appreciate the kind words.
Haha, I’ve seen this video like twenty times over the course of a few years. It’s such a fun idea to explore, and it’s an awesome video. I am currently contemplating on making my own version of this idea. Perhaps I’ll have the guts to post it as this man did.
Do it! I would love to watch it.
NICE VIDEO AND VERY INTERESTING…THANKS FOR SHARING THIS WITH US!👍
Very interesting how Otzi's preparedness corresponds with the modern man's. Great video!
There are technical advances, otherwise his kit was very similar to ours!
Awesome video!
Thank you.
This video was really interesting! Really enjoyed watching this! :-)
I'm still a fan of Otzi, still weighing my gear, still thinking I'm about his size, still thinking my mora could make that bow, those arrows,YES a bic lighter could ourlast that coal. Appreciate that you are still thinking about Otzi . . . me too. Someday maybe they will find me up in the July snow in the Sawtoooths and will know I died happy thinking of Otzi
My thinking on the two Burch containers was he had a coal in each of them because when the coal goes out in one he can restart it with the other .
On second thought this second container he kept more green leaves to slow down the burning of the coal and maybe some punk wood and or more charred punk wood. Anyway it's fun to guess and keep Otzi still alive and thinking.
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing!
really enjoyed this vid, i need / want to look more into Utsi, thank you really sparked my interest
You won't be disappointed.
great video for sure. Thank you.
Awesome video, thanks!!!
Thank you.
Awesome video.
Thank you my friend.
That was a great find. A lot of bushcrafters are looking back to his EDC and trying to move in that direction.
I loved your thought experiment... thanks! Subscribed and liked
Thanks and welcome!
That was really good!
excellent video
Nice job! Very interesting
Thanks. It was a fun thought experiment.
interesting discussion, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Great video ! Updating a 5300 year old survival pack, imagine what he would think of our 'modern' gear.I wonder what future packs will be like 5300 years from now.
It was a fun mental exercise. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Really liked the video. subscribed
Great video ! I love anything to do with " Otzi " . Creative thinking on your part. Me personally I would love to take exactly what Otzi took myself just to see if I would have what it takes to do what he did .
that was interesting! you left one thing out...he needed the rest of his fireteam to watch his back. that way he might have made it off the mountain. i liked that stanley adventure bottle. think i will get one
Hopefully it wasn't one of his team who ended up using him for target practice! You can't go wrong with that Stanley bottle.
you just bought it for me off amazon! thank you again!!!
+Renaissance MarineTV LOL!
i really enjoyed this video thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment.
Im helping a vet buddy with his little ww2 museum so I apreciate your anthro approach !
I think it's always more interesting to know the back story.
Another enjoyable video, it really is surprising how we still use very similar stuff today that was created thousands of years ago.
And they even killed each other like we do today!
+Weekend Wanderer Sadly there's a lot of truth in that
You should consider taking the same kit you just put together, and do a overnight bugout or survival scenario . your very Analytical in your approach per the videos you make . I would certainly watching something like that . Also again last video pure entertainment . thanks again :)
Hmmmm. Not a bad suggestion!
A.L.I.C.E. Packs were issued to the 1st Marine Division in 1982. Well past Vietnam. We would also watch locals when we went to a foreign culture /country & copied their methods of coping with the local environment developed over a millennium. Observation of animals day to day survival could offer clues of what to do & not to do. Otzi was a skilled survivalist which you demonstated. You didn't waste my time.
very nice sir!
Thank you, my friend.
Fun to watch, only one thing I would change. The bow only thirty pounds would not carry the distance nor have the penetration power needed for most hunting.
I remember when they found him, I was glued to the tube, it was so intressant
and there is really not much changed
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steve
It's much easier to get information about him now with the Internet!
You say you are not giving him a s.steel water bottle but as he has a cook set and a litre water bladder he don't need one also you could be a well as the match n lighter a flint & steel tinder box as he has something similar iron pyrate fragments were found with him great video all the same loved it
Excellent
This was fun! A unique video and well thought out, as always. One point, I thought that Otzi was a high status individual due to the copper axe, which would have been a high status item, right? You also gave him two fire lighting tools, the steel tomahawk head he could use with flint, a technique he was already familiar with as well as the lighter. I think some charred chaga or punk wood material and a char tin would have been what I would have given him, assuming we are talking about someone from the past instead of the modern tinders since he could replace the char. Anyway, a fun video about retro-equipping someone from the past. I wonder which items he would have chose for himself, huh? Keep the excellent work!
The axe has given scientists the most trouble. Good observation! Who knows, maybe he found it or stole it? Or maybe it was in more widespread usage than previously thought?
Weekend Wanderer the last account that I heard of him I tended to think he was a smelter and probably made the axe . His lungs were examined and he had evidence of the smelting process in his lungs .
". . . send him back on his merry way after a good shower and a hot meal." :) You are too much!
:-)
I wonder if that stuff would actually be too heavy for him or not as this was a long time ago when humans had to walk long distances and do basically everything manually which would likely mean they were substantially stronger (even if they were smaller) than your average hiker today.
+Freedom1776 Good question. I guess we'll never know for sure.
Oetzi had tattoos on his joints that have slight damage suggesting he was feeling pain from pre-arthritic condition, the tattoos may have been to alleviate the pain or perhaps to introduce some preparation into the skin close to the joints.
Thank you for the share enjoy this video
I wouldn't give him a compount pulley bow. When those things get damaged, they're exceptionally difficult to repair in the field, especially for a small, lightweight male with potentially insufficient muscle strength and probably no understanding whatsoever of wheels and levers, never mind complex pulley systems, or the tools needed to repair said bow. I'd just give him a standard recurve, probably a 40-pound draw. That much draw weight was handled just fine by a 4'10" friend of mine even on just a casual target archery basis, like what she was doing at first. She never had any problems drawing after the first week of getting used to the bow, so long as she practiced at least three times a week, and for a while there she worked her way past #45 to a #50 draw weight. (Heck, if he's a wimp, he could probably still take most game with a #35 draw weight; he'd be used to pursuing wounded prey!)
Additionally, 40# draw weight is sufficiently strong enough to take down a whitetail deer if you have good aim; most mountain goats aren't much different than a whitetail in size, so it's perfectly fine for the Iceman's needs. I might have considered introducing him to a takedown bow with replaceable limbs of different strength, but carrying the spare limbs would have added to his burden. Otzi definitel would be far more used to caring for a relatiely fragile self (single piece of wood) bow than modern day fiberglass composites, etc, so it's not likely he'd do stupid things like chip away at ice with his new bow.
As for arrows, I'm honestly not sure whether to give him hunting-tipped aluminum shaft, or cedar shaft. The one drawback to the aluminum ones is that the arrowheads unscrew, and he might not know (or remember) to check to make sure the arrowheads are screwed on firmly before firing them at prey. He also might feel uncomfortable using them, as they're rather lightweight and unfamiliar-looking...or he might choose to flatten them to use the shafts as cutting tools. Wooden shaft arrows are a bit rarer to find in the modern era, but they'd look very familiar to him, and he'd know how to repair them...because, inevitably, arrows will get damaged and need either repairing or replacing.
Personally, I don't think he was all that dumb (being a murder victim is not a case of being dumb, so much as being unlucky, usually), so he'd probably get the hang of tightening threaded metal arrows, and treat them with some reverence. But I'd still hesitate because aluminum shaft arrows (or fiberglass ones!) tend to be lighter than wooden ones, and they could need some modificaton to have the kind of weight needed for a proper kinetic impact against the prey you're hunting.
He appears to have made his own equipment, so a simpler self-bow becomes the go-to.
Finding and paying for a modern compound bow after losing one, or making such a device yourself seems a stretch.
firesteel yes ,550 cord yes , all the rest yes.
awesome video
Shalom
Thank you!
Is it possible to say Utzi wasn't travelling alone and others in his party (maybe partnership) chased off the killers?
I've never seen anyone address this question.
Actually, now I think of it. That Otzi may have been harbouring a higher human trafic. And that his killers seen his belongings as nothing in value compared to who they already had?
He did have a shelter of sorts ,it was his grass cloak !
Gary Minick Quite true!
Above treeline . . . then yes, fatwood, though without additional wood it would be one cold knight. Let's suppose he shot a mountain goat and had a nice warm fresh mountain goat hide to wrap himself in. Of course that might be one more reason to shoot him . . . VERY hard to stay warm in the alps above treeline. That maple leaf wrapped coal must have been truly for survival with expectation to retreat back to the trees. Plenty of rocks that would spark (quartz) above treeline in the alps if there was any tinder . . . I'd vote for him having a goose down sleeping bag and tarp to keep from getting soaked by the odd snow fall. It doesn't have to be tiny to be survival gear . . . Again thanks for thought provoking vid!
Having an ember means he was only temporarily going to be above the tree line. Good observation!
This was entertaining but I do think skipping the knife was odd because the carbon steel when the tomahawk is also carbon steel
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1st Never dry fire a bow..2nd Condor makes a copy of Otzis Knife but I would give him the Mora Eldris,because it's a knife closer to what Otzi had and also,I have seen tribes that still use this kind of knife to make arrows. 3d Why not a ferro rod for fire making? 4th Nice video enjoed it.Cheers
Excellent thought experiment!
Thanks!
Nice story bruh
What will i give Őtzi, new thing?
1).
Modern light backpack, bow and arrow, fishnet, knife, firesteel and a easy axe, container. Tarp. String.
2).
Or One real good Survival Kit as,
T. O. P. S. Snap Kit. In this are both, a good knife, can make to an axe. Two fire tools: Firesteel and Fresnel lens, fishing tool, Tarp. String.
I wonder if otzi had anything else on him before he was murdered. What if he had things on him that the people actually took from him after killing him.
A walking stick is very likely, and people rarely mention the net.
When mentioned, the net is usually assumed to be a container, but he seemed to not carry anything that would need such a container.
People living in the Alps have been recorded as placing a net between bushes close to their campsite, and throwing out scraps of bait at dusk.
Birds may get caught in the net about the time the human wakes in the morning, and voila, a morning snack.
Bic lighters don't work well in cold or at altitude.
I've always liked Otsi. But today he would have carried granit gear pack and western mountaneering sleeping bag and a mora knife. Bic lighter, yes, but why carry fat wood when forests have plenty? Why a saw when there is down and dead wood? We are soft now and need tarp and sleeping pad . . . and bug spray . . . They think he was out hunting. Why else would he stray so far up the mountain? He had eaten quite heavily on game. Maybe murdered for the meat? Or for a lady? Or for bad politics? Humans are not so different now . . . I love the detail of a coal wrapped in mapple leaves. Otsi research led me to youtube bushcraft vids. Thank you Otsi! Great video Wanderer!
Thanks for the fine comment. I gave him fatwood because he was found above the tree line. Figured I'd make it easy for the old boy. I'm sure if I made the video again I could give him completely different supplies. We have so much to work with here, yet still know so little! I admit though, that the romantic angle hadn't occurred to me!
The axe; could've also been used to down Game.
Especially a 'Coup de gras' blow, to the skull or back of the neck.
YOUR DOG:
Please make a video about your dog just to know how the little princes is doing.
Thank you, I will do that. The dog making all the noise in the video is our older dog, who does what he can to avoid being around the puppy!
Otzi was probably strong as hell.
He had tattoos on his skin by the joints that were found to have early signs of arthritis in them, so he probably was very active all his life.
AFAIK it's not pronounced Utsi rather pronounced Oh-tsi, though apparently that is still not entirely correct either as the Ö is different to O, but doesn't translate well into english.
Also never release a bow like that when not shooting an arrow, it can damage the bow. Plus I would not have included a compound bow, too modern, why not a simple fiberglass recurve bow or even go more traditional and go with a traditional wooden bow.
as far as your fire, absolutely disagree, go with a flint and steel set with amadou and punk wood, and include a char tin for good measure. You could even go with flint and pyrite. He would throw that lighter away as a piece of junk, what would happen when it ran out of fuel or didn't work because it got wet or was too high in altitude?
An 'umlaut' over the 'O' usually turns an English 'o' toward the sound 'E', rather like the compound letters that are now out of fashion, the 'oe' and 'ae' which can be found in older books.
Was his mammoth skin wallet still on his body? lol jk
Nice to see an original "survival kit". Thanks for the vid.
LOL
OMG, even the native Americans had flint/chert/rocks to start a fire, nobody rubbed damn sticks together !
The spin-drill or 'Tom Hanks' method of fire-raising is quite feasible, and especially in a region (such as most jungles) where even the right kind of rocks to use were hard to find.
There's also the idea that softer or more perishable items rarely survive to the present, so if someone were to make their own fire-raising tools, their own leather goods, etc, repairing and remaking and replacing as they went, this entire lifestyle would be likely unknown, unless, as in Oetzi's case, his pack of tools survived along with him.
That extraordinary cape made of alternating brown and black strips of fur off-cuts or trims from more important people's leatherworking is diagnostic.
Stylish to humans, warm, waterproof, useful as camouflage, and easily repaired and replaced bit by bit as it wore.
For me, the little roll of tools he had seems the equivalent to a soldier's 'housewife' or set of tools to repair and maintain uniform in the field, something that's fallen out of currency (here in Britain) just since WWII.
Brad Pitt has a tattoo of the mummy of otzi on his arm. No joke great vid.
killkill120 That I didn't know!
What I still find puzzling relates to the murder theory. If true, then why did they leave all his gear behind? The knife, axe, fire kit etc were valuable items back in those days. Unless he escaped and hid then died of his wounds that story isn't fully convincing.
I just watched this 3 hours after you did and he mentions in the captions as he talks about his hypothesis and says if the murderer had returned back to the village with any Otzi's items, it would show he was the killer.
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Yes, I saw that theory. But it's just speculation. The fact is Otzi had several wounds we now know. On his hand, on his head and the arrow point. And many bruises. Along with blood stains on him from at least two other people. That Copper Axe alone was a very valuable item. And clearly he'd been fighting people who were enemies. So I don't see how they'd be concerned anyone didn't like them taking trophies.
@@douglasturner6153 I totally agree with you. I just wasn't sure if you had seen his captions trying to explain his statements. I don't know why but I find this absolutely fascinating.
@@Joker-ig8im
Same here. I love a good mystery. And they're continually finding new facts that change earlier assumptions.
That he wasn't found for thousands of years may mean few people knew or used the tracks over the mountains into foreign territory, and when he went off them, no-one found him until leisure time meant people could explore for fun in the 20th century.
This video was enjoyable to watch and educational. Great job! wtr7
Thank you, my friend. It was a fun thought experiment.
Maybe he was killed by friendly fire in a hunting accident
That first aid kit really should have had an arrow head removal tool included. LolHow much would $200 have been 5000 years ago? I doubt that this kit would have been affordable to anyone back then?? Lol
More questions than answers, my friend!
It a modern version of the kit. Now, TODAY.... What is the equivalent that YOU would use to go out in a survival situation? Would you use that kit you made for a few weeks? (I will let you make up to 5 changes if you like!) Albeit, a good survivalist could easily last a week or 2 with your kit as is!
I mean, I'll take the 10/22....😁
Something I came across in reading about him is that he had drawings on his body that suggested a knowledge of the meridian points used today by the Chines in accupuncture. It don't sound like to me that these folks were in caves beating on stones and saying "ug" to each other.
You're right about that!
There were lines tattooed in parallel on a number of his leg and arm joints, perhaps also on his back. He seems to have been treated for aching joints a number of times.
it's interesting and kind of funny. We think of ourselves as so evolved from that caveman and yet he was able to live as long as he did with nothing but his wits and skill using nothing but the land. while we and our Modern Age are inundated with all this fancy gear and high-tech stuff. it's not enough just to buy the stuff we have and store it for a rainy day. like this cave man you've got to practice it. he did it all his life. it's interesting to think about how we would Stack Up Against men from his era in time.
Ötzi was on the run, thats wy he has no shelter.
maybe not murder but war?
On travel
I do not think he died from a "whack on the head". His copper axe would have been far to valuable to leave behind.
The wound in his back and hand would have tired and weakend him quite a bit. He was not particularly healthy to begin with. He could have died from a stroke at any time.
He could simply have slipped on a patch of ice, hit his head, lost concience and died of hypothermia.
Radio-isotope analyses of the enamel on his teeth show that he spend his youth in Northern Italy South of the Alps, not in them.
It is unlikely that he used his axe in a fight, the man was an experienced archer and carried a knife as well.
The wound on his hand indicates a knife fight. One of his arrowhead had the blood of two individuals on it.
You do not get your arrow back by magic. and the person hit with it will not hand it back to you either.
He must have ended up in several seperate deadly conflicts and succeeded in killing his adversaries in order to get that arrow back, twice.
(Was he involved in a raiding party, or the victim of one? Who knows. But the guy was definately tough.)
Don't you ever dry fire a bow again that is very bad for the bow
That's all you got out of the video?
stainless steel will rust, just not as fast. hint stain less
I don't recall saying it was "stain impossible," but assuming a coating of at least 20% chromium it should remain quite serviceable with minimal maintenance for a lifetime.
An arrow in the back. Obviously the murder was over a woman.
spec ops
Murder ? You don't track a guy down into nowhere for sport. He was probably a thief(or worse) on the run !
He was a smart victim, as he was mortally hit, went off the beaten paths, hid, was not found for thousands of years, not by his killers or the cops.