I still think the strike playlist and strike specific loot was a massive reason D1 didn't get as tiresome as D2 does I can return to D1 constantly and get far less burned out than with D2 also leveling up and grinding engrams actually feels like a grind with progress(rewarding) doesn't really become a slog till the legendary grind near max level
The issue is that Bungie let us play D1 however we wanted. So when you got bored of one part of the game, you could hop to another part that still felt fresh But with D2 Bungie has always tried to micromanage our play. Forcing you to play the parts of the game they wanted us to play…whether we enjoyed it or not. “Play our game, our way or we won’t reward you!” After years of this players are so tired that they just don’t care anymore.
I think I’ve actually had a lot of issues with the core sandbox recently. I will preface this by saying that I like to dabble a lot in every subclass. I think one of my main issue with how pve is balanced is really the focus on healing and survivability. If you are playing a class without access to consistent healing a lot of modern content is miserable. If you play a class with healing you genuinely don’t notice anything. This was highlighted to me most recently with the vespers host boss. That damage phase is strait torture if you don’t have a healer or a build that allows you to heal easily. The amount of nearly unavoidable damage during dps is insane. I think it really comes down to how enemies are designed. We have good examples like the witness or Rhulk, where if you are skilled enough you can do those fight basically hitless, which imo is a really good thing, I want more skill expression in destiny’s combat. However when nearly every enemy in the game has attacks that auto track, are hitscan or have large aoe’s (which make it so you can’t even hide behind cover), avoiding taking damage is nearly impossible. This basically forces you onto a build that gives you healing or some form or damage reduction. Destiny’s survivability isn’t really any form of dodging, it’s really just how much can you face tank attacks and heal it back. This detracts from the skill expression in this game imo. It really feels like building into survivability has become a non-choice at this point. I personally would want to see a lot of enemies attacks be reworked. I’m tired of the auto tracking, hitscan snipers, massive aoe projectiles where it feels like the only thing you can do it build into more healing. I want enemy attacks to stay powerful but I also want them to be more telegraphed and dodgeable. I want destiny’s skill expression to be how well can I weave through my enemies attacks while also dealing as much damage as possible, not how can I build to just ignore all these enemies and tank through everything.
i think its funny when half the comment section on vids like these are either "its joever dead game uninstall irl" or "lalalalalalala i cant hear you so game not bad"
We need armor set bonuses that matter. If you wear a full set, its effect should be equal to if not better than an exotic, you wouldn't be able to wear an exotic, it must be a 5/5 to get the bonus and it must be all or nothing. They should probably be specific to the activity they're from, for example, if you wear a full set of vespers host armor you are immune to the radiation from the both the cores and the irradiated enemies (not the wipe mechanic in the lower rooms, that would be broken). A full PvP set might let you revive faster and/or spawn with additional special ammo. keep in mind, you can't wear an exotic to get these bonuses, even if you wear 4 items, you should either get a massively reduced benefit or none at all.
Wow yes this makes a lot of sense. Not only are you sacrificing an exotic slot, also you will have to grind to get decent stats if you want specific build stat values i.e high resi+recov.
I feel like the buffs you thought of for vesper host is kinda bad, if you want it to be better or equal to a exotic, it shouldn't be dungeon specific, something relating to buildcrafting and not a mechanic cause there is no point in having immunity to radiation if most content doesn't have it. Or faster revives in PVP, if you want to be better or equal it should be something with more impact than that because in what world am I going to use like faster revive or more ammo over lets say thruster with alpha lupi or ophidian aspects which have major impact on pvp. Also they are planning on implementing having over 100 strength or discipline gives a chance of getting your nade or melee back in frontiers, it was in one of their articles a lil while back.
I'll keep saying tiis until they fix it - the new player experience is one of the worst in all of gaming. My own personal experience - I had several IRL friends join in Witchqueen because of the buzz. They loved it but didnt stick around because it's just too overwhelming. It doesnt matter how many new guardians join in Witchqueen or the Final Shape if we cant get them to stick around because of the huge wall that is the new player experience.
@@Kinro-y D2 is ONE of the worst like I said. It joins Warframe in that Exclusive Club of the worst onboarding experiences ever. D2 has a TON of problems but IMO the new player experiences should be top priority before we even get to those other problems.
Hot take, every weapon should be craft-able and activities should be enough fun you would play them without loot incentive. The current mind set is that you need to eat 30 feet of sh*t to get loot. One day you wake up and you stop caring about the loot, then you are just eating sh*t. Not kink shaming but its just not my thing...
my biggest issue is that I have all the weapons I want and no reason to loot. As half of a looter shooter losing half the core gameplay rationale makes it difficult to care about grinding
Legendary armour and weapons have a lack of inspiration in destiny 2 they all feel the same with the same set of perks. every solar weapon has incandescent and heal clip we literally farm for the same weapon with a different theme every season. Exotic weapons don’t even feel exotic anymore at all. It’s mind boggling how a Mobile game has more creativity for weapons and exotics than the actual main game
I think the long abandonment of core modes like strikes and PvP really hurt my care for the game, I’ll even throw Gambit in there as well since I liked it even though Bungie never acknowledged its existence for years. To keep piling on seasons and DLCs onto playlists and maps that are years and years old and adding nothing to go for for them for a long time it just feels like crap. My time is over with Destiny and I of course had the highs but the feeling of the potential it could’ve had, especially in the PvP side, will always leave me wondering “what if”
Can we have less investment in the pvp side actually please? Not a big fan of having to keep an eye on whats going on in the crucible to know if what Im using is going to be nerfed in pve cause its breaking stuff over there.
@@zyphreiumv4529whether you like it or not, destiny was at it’s peak when both modes pve and pvp backed each other up, whole of d1, forsaken era mostly. The moment you choose not to bring new core activity armor for gambit, crucible, strikes and give it to the store, i can already tell that bungie and whoever makes those decisions is just a greedy son of a bitch that deserves to either be fired or for the game to die. Choosing monetisation over core game features is a crime. We should have been getting 2-3 pvp maps per EPISODE, new game modes, and most importantly actually new weapon designs for both strikes and crucible, the feeling of getting a gun and being another veist smg is the biggest let down ever. But i do agree that the sandboxs should be different, pvp should not have strand, stasis or prismatic, and actually keep the subclass trees we had before only for light elements, make the movement slower and ammo economy better while handing out maps and cool rewards and pvp is back on top without affecting pve
Yeah now graviton Lance getting nerfed because it’s broken in crucible. PvP is necessary to stay healthy though. At least the casual end of it. The notion of getting loot and trying it in crucible is a huge thing for a lot of people. Way more people play crucible than do raids
Destiny has a lot of issues that just stop it from truly succeeding. From weapons to exploration, it’s just all half-baked. There’s a glaring lack of QOL features that most MMOs have, like player housing. The game has no idea whether it wants to be a looter-shooter or not, just based on the back-and-forth between crafting and RNG. Builds are far too compact and rely too much on ability-spam to be truly unique. Enemy classes haven’t had actual, game-changing updates for a LONG time, the last truly notable addition was Brigs and Wyverns in BL. There’s too much recycled content, especially content that got removed and re-introduced while still costing money when we already paid for it (seasonal weapons come to mind). Finally, my biggest gripe is the microtransactions and how they are becoming priority for many parts of the game. Cosmetics should be earnable in-game if they are tied to a faction or location, not sold for silver for sometimes as high as $20. Transmog should be available for any armor after you unlock it, not require some stupid currency that you can only earn a certain amount of every season.
I forgot the game is over a decade old....destiny 3 wouldn't be a bad thing if you think about it. Also letting any sunset weapon be craftable would solve vaulting/vault cleaning issues
Everytime the community is outraged they release new content in a rushed unfinished state. I.E the 10yr anniversary was being "legend"for opening chests in the pale heart. It was supposed to be like pantheon and into the light WAS the 10 year anniversary content.
@@Caleb-X29 if writing facts makes me delusional the i'm ok with it, if you like more warframe is fine, i like both games so i play both, the only thing d2 really is missing is a grind that mean something but since is in a super casual state nothing is really worth to grind. And sorry to tell you the reality but if warframe was always better why the numbers dumb war was winned only after tfs?
If you think that a 30-40 dollar expansion coming from a money milking company will be better than overpriced 50 dollar expansion youre hard on the copium train. Either they overhaul the whole game or it slowly dies, theres not a thing they can release anymore that will keep players invested for more than 1-2 months
@retiredboi3175 you must not have watched the massive changes planned for apollo thaths why a super casual game like d2 looks promising with the next Dlc , lets Just Hope they dont get scared by bottom 10000% casuals and make tier system a adept 2 situation
@@ilredelnulla9837 i agree as well that bungie should stop caring about the super casuals and make the game meaningful. But knowing them, and how they’ve handled this game for the past 7 years, theyre not doing shit. While a major problem is this, theres still a lot more stuff that probably wont get fixed. Do i hope they do? Of course i grew up with this franchise, but i also dont want to feel like an idiot playing it. For example, there have been leaks that people will be able to get free cataphract adept gls from trials, this removes any exclusivity the mode has and mostly, the other players’ struggle to get that. In general, everything’s super easy maybe except master salvations edge which if you know what to do with good teammates its not as bad as people say
No game comes even close to Destiny’s gameplay. Once I find an MMO/looter shooter that’s plays just like D2 then I will call it quits but until then I will play this game until the servers are out for good.
Destiny’s buildcrafting is just so outdated and feels paralyzed at this point. As long as you select a certain exotic armour and the aspect you want to use, there’s hardly any room for versatility. For instance, I find that for most of the subclasses, there’s at least 2-3 fragments you wouldn’t be caught dead without, which leaves room for like 1 maaaybe 2 other ones, often which are mid, at best, and by themselves don’t contribute to any sort of gameplay loop, so they’re pretty much never worth using unless you’re going for some super niche role. It’s frustrating seeing those “options” that can’t really be implemented in practice due to the limits of the aspect/fragment system. Plus the vast majority of exotic armors are tied specifically to a subclass so in reality you have like 4 or 5 armors to pick from for your “build”. Everything just feels very restrictive and 1 dimensional. Hardly any out-side-the-box thinking is permitted. At this point it feels like all that build crafting has become is how can I get orbs to heal and reduce ability cooldown while wearing the same fragments for everything. You dont actually have to think any more, especially because Champions restrict our gun choices so stringently now too. The skill tree needs a total and utter rework. Also Champions need to disappear or have more versatility in terms of counter play.
I disagree it was a peak year for anything in the game. It was also the worst year to be a solo player. Content was forced to require teammates and when people complained the community said “OMG get some friends already and stop whining, it’s an MMO”. And they wondered why everyone left. And it’s not an MMO. That’s laughable
Playing destiny in 2025 is “ peaked in highschool” levels of sad. You can legit do ANYTHING else. Bungie doesn’t care about us, they never did, since d1
I didnt support destiny ever since they announced on bungie day of all things (celebrating their players) that PS would be getting exclusive content within every aspect of the game from pre orders of all things, to the main game, to the dlc, to FREE events. Then ofc the game sucked anyways and was saved apparently by ttk. When D2 came out and sucked I laughed. More little rats running around. Then they started literally removing paid content and I laughed even harder at people who supported this game still. Then through the outright lies about mechanics like exp, to farming, to recent lies about rolls,to every failure. All I can think is, you deserve each other. Anyone who keeps playing such a game despite all that and more is a chump and has no right to be mad about the state of the game.
If you've never supported Destiny then why are you even here man. I admit Destiny has been absolutely rough after Final Shape, but just coming here to yap negatively doesn't help anyone. Try to be more optimistic my friend or stay away from things that make you angry.
Oh there is a destiny doomer, someone who has been praying for more than 10 years for the death of a game that they don't even play but has the same right as you who play the game to complain.
I still think the strike playlist and strike specific loot was a massive reason D1 didn't get as tiresome as D2 does
I can return to D1 constantly and get far less burned out than with D2
also leveling up and grinding engrams actually feels like a grind with progress(rewarding) doesn't really become a slog till the legendary grind near max level
D1 was an actual “video game”. Destiny 2 is essentially a well done mobile game now. It’s soulless
The issue is that Bungie let us play D1 however we wanted. So when you got bored of one part of the game, you could hop to another part that still felt fresh
But with D2 Bungie has always tried to micromanage our play. Forcing you to play the parts of the game they wanted us to play…whether we enjoyed it or not.
“Play our game, our way or we won’t reward you!” After years of this players are so tired that they just don’t care anymore.
I think I’ve actually had a lot of issues with the core sandbox recently. I will preface this by saying that I like to dabble a lot in every subclass.
I think one of my main issue with how pve is balanced is really the focus on healing and survivability. If you are playing a class without access to consistent healing a lot of modern content is miserable. If you play a class with healing you genuinely don’t notice anything.
This was highlighted to me most recently with the vespers host boss. That damage phase is strait torture if you don’t have a healer or a build that allows you to heal easily. The amount of nearly unavoidable damage during dps is insane.
I think it really comes down to how enemies are designed. We have good examples like the witness or Rhulk, where if you are skilled enough you can do those fight basically hitless, which imo is a really good thing, I want more skill expression in destiny’s combat.
However when nearly every enemy in the game has attacks that auto track, are hitscan or have large aoe’s (which make it so you can’t even hide behind cover), avoiding taking damage is nearly impossible. This basically forces you onto a build that gives you healing or some form or damage reduction. Destiny’s survivability isn’t really any form of dodging, it’s really just how much can you face tank attacks and heal it back. This detracts from the skill expression in this game imo. It really feels like building into survivability has become a non-choice at this point.
I personally would want to see a lot of enemies attacks be reworked. I’m tired of the auto tracking, hitscan snipers, massive aoe projectiles where it feels like the only thing you can do it build into more healing. I want enemy attacks to stay powerful but I also want them to be more telegraphed and dodgeable.
I want destiny’s skill expression to be how well can I weave through my enemies attacks while also dealing as much damage as possible, not how can I build to just ignore all these enemies and tank through everything.
Even as a hunter I don't think the healer comment is true but I also run at least 80-90 resilience at a baseline.
i think its funny when half the comment section on vids like these are either "its joever dead game uninstall irl" or "lalalalalalala i cant hear you so game not bad"
We need armor set bonuses that matter. If you wear a full set, its effect should be equal to if not better than an exotic, you wouldn't be able to wear an exotic, it must be a 5/5 to get the bonus and it must be all or nothing. They should probably be specific to the activity they're from, for example, if you wear a full set of vespers host armor you are immune to the radiation from the both the cores and the irradiated enemies (not the wipe mechanic in the lower rooms, that would be broken). A full PvP set might let you revive faster and/or spawn with additional special ammo. keep in mind, you can't wear an exotic to get these bonuses, even if you wear 4 items, you should either get a massively reduced benefit or none at all.
Wow yes this makes a lot of sense. Not only are you sacrificing an exotic slot, also you will have to grind to get decent stats if you want specific build stat values i.e high resi+recov.
Sacrificing an exotic is stupid, the full effect should be given for 4/5, not a full set.
@@sajinth2006 true but it’s bungie lol even asking for what we are saying is way too much
I feel like the buffs you thought of for vesper host is kinda bad, if you want it to be better or equal to a exotic, it shouldn't be dungeon specific, something relating to buildcrafting and not a mechanic cause there is no point in having immunity to radiation if most content doesn't have it. Or faster revives in PVP, if you want to be better or equal it should be something with more impact than that because in what world am I going to use like faster revive or more ammo over lets say thruster with alpha lupi or ophidian aspects which have major impact on pvp. Also they are planning on implementing having over 100 strength or discipline gives a chance of getting your nade or melee back in frontiers, it was in one of their articles a lil while back.
They are gonna do this in frontier it’s confirmed
I'll keep saying tiis until they fix it - the new player experience is one of the worst in all of gaming.
My own personal experience - I had several IRL friends join in Witchqueen because of the buzz. They loved it but didnt stick around because it's just too overwhelming.
It doesnt matter how many new guardians join in Witchqueen or the Final Shape if we cant get them to stick around because of the huge wall that is the new player experience.
New player experience is WAYYY worse in warframe lol
@@Kinro-ystraight cap you don’t gotta buy 10000000 dlcs
@@Kinro-y D2 is ONE of the worst like I said. It joins Warframe in that Exclusive Club of the worst onboarding experiences ever.
D2 has a TON of problems but IMO the new player experiences should be top priority before we even get to those other problems.
Hot take, every weapon should be craft-able and activities should be enough fun you would play them without loot incentive.
The current mind set is that you need to eat 30 feet of sh*t to get loot. One day you wake up and you stop caring about the loot, then you are just eating sh*t. Not kink shaming but its just not my thing...
my biggest issue is that I have all the weapons I want and no reason to loot. As half of a looter shooter losing half the core gameplay rationale makes it difficult to care about grinding
Legendary armour and weapons have a lack of inspiration in destiny 2 they all feel the same with the same set of perks. every solar weapon has incandescent and heal clip we literally farm for the same weapon with a different theme every season. Exotic weapons don’t even feel exotic anymore at all. It’s mind boggling how a Mobile game has more creativity for weapons and exotics than the actual main game
I think the long abandonment of core modes like strikes and PvP really hurt my care for the game, I’ll even throw Gambit in there as well since I liked it even though Bungie never acknowledged its existence for years. To keep piling on seasons and DLCs onto playlists and maps that are years and years old and adding nothing to go for for them for a long time it just feels like crap. My time is over with Destiny and I of course had the highs but the feeling of the potential it could’ve had, especially in the PvP side, will always leave me wondering “what if”
Can we have less investment in the pvp side actually please? Not a big fan of having to keep an eye on whats going on in the crucible to know if what Im using is going to be nerfed in pve cause its breaking stuff over there.
@@zyphreiumv4529whether you like it or not, destiny was at it’s peak when both modes pve and pvp backed each other up, whole of d1, forsaken era mostly. The moment you choose not to bring new core activity armor for gambit, crucible, strikes and give it to the store, i can already tell that bungie and whoever makes those decisions is just a greedy son of a bitch that deserves to either be fired or for the game to die. Choosing monetisation over core game features is a crime. We should have been getting 2-3 pvp maps per EPISODE, new game modes, and most importantly actually new weapon designs for both strikes and crucible, the feeling of getting a gun and being another veist smg is the biggest let down ever. But i do agree that the sandboxs should be different, pvp should not have strand, stasis or prismatic, and actually keep the subclass trees we had before only for light elements, make the movement slower and ammo economy better while handing out maps and cool rewards and pvp is back on top without affecting pve
Yeah now graviton Lance getting nerfed because it’s broken in crucible. PvP is necessary to stay healthy though. At least the casual end of it. The notion of getting loot and trying it in crucible is a huge thing for a lot of people. Way more people play crucible than do raids
I feel like bungie is always backed into a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” scenario. It’s really unfortunate because I genuinely love the game
Destiny has a lot of issues that just stop it from truly succeeding. From weapons to exploration, it’s just all half-baked.
There’s a glaring lack of QOL features that most MMOs have, like player housing. The game has no idea whether it wants to be a looter-shooter or not, just based on the back-and-forth between crafting and RNG. Builds are far too compact and rely too much on ability-spam to be truly unique. Enemy classes haven’t had actual, game-changing updates for a LONG time, the last truly notable addition was Brigs and Wyverns in BL. There’s too much recycled content, especially content that got removed and re-introduced while still costing money when we already paid for it (seasonal weapons come to mind). Finally, my biggest gripe is the microtransactions and how they are becoming priority for many parts of the game. Cosmetics should be earnable in-game if they are tied to a faction or location, not sold for silver for sometimes as high as $20. Transmog should be available for any armor after you unlock it, not require some stupid currency that you can only earn a certain amount of every season.
Also doesn’t help that some veterans are stingy af gatekeeping raids cash app cheese 💀
I forgot the game is over a decade old....destiny 3 wouldn't be a bad thing if you think about it. Also letting any sunset weapon be craftable would solve vaulting/vault cleaning issues
Everytime the community is outraged they release new content in a rushed unfinished state. I.E the 10yr anniversary was being "legend"for opening chests in the pale heart.
It was supposed to be like pantheon and into the light WAS the 10 year anniversary content.
Here we go again seeing the same video for the billionth time
And you're here. Watching it. For the billionth time. Even leaving a comment to drive up engagement which will help the video get seen by more people.
Destiny players when the engage with the same content over and over again and complain about it
Yeah... but it's confirming my bias so I'm going to watch it and agree with it!
Because the game gets worse and worse 😭
@corbinhoevers we are grinding the dead destiny videos because we don't want to grind destiny anymore
Yup, just another video about the same shit. Don’t waste your time this guy have no original Thought
the current state yeah, the future with the dlc looks very good
Your absolutely delusional kid, a lot of us veterans have moved onto Warframe because it’s just better than Destiny 2 ever was. 😂
@@Caleb-X29 if writing facts makes me delusional the i'm ok with it, if you like more warframe is fine, i like both games so i play both, the only thing d2 really is missing is a grind that mean something but since is in a super casual state nothing is really worth to grind.
And sorry to tell you the reality but if warframe was always better why the numbers dumb war was winned only after tfs?
If you think that a 30-40 dollar expansion coming from a money milking company will be better than overpriced 50 dollar expansion youre hard on the copium train. Either they overhaul the whole game or it slowly dies, theres not a thing they can release anymore that will keep players invested for more than 1-2 months
@retiredboi3175 you must not have watched the massive changes planned for apollo thaths why a super casual game like d2 looks promising with the next Dlc , lets Just Hope they dont get scared by bottom 10000% casuals and make tier system a adept 2 situation
@@ilredelnulla9837 i agree as well that bungie should stop caring about the super casuals and make the game meaningful. But knowing them, and how they’ve handled this game for the past 7 years, theyre not doing shit. While a major problem is this, theres still a lot more stuff that probably wont get fixed. Do i hope they do? Of course i grew up with this franchise, but i also dont want to feel like an idiot playing it. For example, there have been leaks that people will be able to get free cataphract adept gls from trials, this removes any exclusivity the mode has and mostly, the other players’ struggle to get that. In general, everything’s super easy maybe except master salvations edge which if you know what to do with good teammates its not as bad as people say
No game comes even close to Destiny’s gameplay. Once I find an MMO/looter shooter that’s plays just like D2 then I will call it quits but until then I will play this game until the servers are out for good.
Destiny’s buildcrafting is just so outdated and feels paralyzed at this point. As long as you select a certain exotic armour and the aspect you want to use, there’s hardly any room for versatility.
For instance, I find that for most of the subclasses, there’s at least 2-3 fragments you wouldn’t be caught dead without, which leaves room for like 1 maaaybe 2 other ones, often which are mid, at best, and by themselves don’t contribute to any sort of gameplay loop, so they’re pretty much never worth using unless you’re going for some super niche role. It’s frustrating seeing those “options” that can’t really be implemented in practice due to the limits of the aspect/fragment system.
Plus the vast majority of exotic armors are tied specifically to a subclass so in reality you have like 4 or 5 armors to pick from for your “build”. Everything just feels very restrictive and 1 dimensional. Hardly any out-side-the-box thinking is permitted.
At this point it feels like all that build crafting has become is how can I get orbs to heal and reduce ability cooldown while wearing the same fragments for everything. You dont actually have to think any more, especially because Champions restrict our gun choices so stringently now too.
The skill tree needs a total and utter rework. Also Champions need to disappear or have more versatility in terms of counter play.
For me, the subscribe button is white. Is it still red for anyone else? I went ahead and clicked it though lol
I disagree it was a peak year for anything in the game. It was also the worst year to be a solo player. Content was forced to require teammates and when people complained the community said “OMG get some friends already and stop whining, it’s an MMO”. And they wondered why everyone left. And it’s not an MMO. That’s laughable
You didn't try the finder guardians system or whatever it's called?
Playing destiny in 2025 is “ peaked in highschool” levels of sad. You can legit do ANYTHING else. Bungie doesn’t care about us, they never did, since d1
Games been trash since launch copy past bs rehashed shit now it’s a arcade game for casuals
Not sure what I watched just now
I didnt support destiny ever since they announced on bungie day of all things (celebrating their players) that PS would be getting exclusive content within every aspect of the game from pre orders of all things, to the main game, to the dlc, to FREE events.
Then ofc the game sucked anyways and was saved apparently by ttk.
When D2 came out and sucked I laughed. More little rats running around.
Then they started literally removing paid content and I laughed even harder at people who supported this game still.
Then through the outright lies about mechanics like exp, to farming, to recent lies about rolls,to every failure.
All I can think is, you deserve each other. Anyone who keeps playing such a game despite all that and more is a chump and has no right to be mad about the state of the game.
PHENOMENAL BAIT 🌟
you seem very unhappy dude, i think therapy or some r&r
If you've never supported Destiny then why are you even here man. I admit Destiny has been absolutely rough after Final Shape, but just coming here to yap negatively doesn't help anyone. Try to be more optimistic my friend or stay away from things that make you angry.
Oh there is a destiny doomer, someone who has been praying for more than 10 years for the death of a game that they don't even play but has the same right as you who play the game to complain.