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  • @bryan688
    @bryan688 Рік тому +682

    The dealership thinks I am crazy for doing 5k oil changes on the wifes Audi. Oil is cheap and recyclable....and it saves you from all of this.

    • @mikemata623
      @mikemata623 Рік тому +42

      Smart man

    • @jeffleach2668
      @jeffleach2668 Рік тому +77

      Makes me apprehensive to buy a used car in case the owner followed those ridiculous manufacturer oil change intervals. They don’t care about your car as long as it makes it out of the warranty period!😔

    • @slscamg
      @slscamg Рік тому +98

      The BMW dealer thought I was crazy for not following the 15k mile rule on my 335i. Never would I run a $20k engine that long on oil that costs $60 to change.

    • @dragkiller15
      @dragkiller15 Рік тому +23

      @@slscamggood man my 335 just spun a rod bearing 5 thousand kilometres after buying it im assuming since the previous owner did not keep a proper oil change interval on n54 super sad ngl

    • @Raider19582
      @Raider19582 Рік тому +69

      My Toyota dealer thinks I'm crazy too for changing oil 🛢 at 5k....they recommend 10k but I'm doing every 5k.

  • @dinkokolic4386
    @dinkokolic4386 Рік тому +86

    You can change the oil every day and fill with the most expensive fuel, but that will not save you from the carbon deposits that are the result of direct injection

    • @jeffreycheng5984
      @jeffreycheng5984 Рік тому +1

      This is why I do a fuel system service every 5k along with synthetic oil and 87 octane per owner's manual on my 2021 Hyundai Sonata Limited 1.6 T.
      Other maintenance items would include tire rotate and balance. 4-wheel alignment every 2 5k oil services.

    • @12lovenos12
      @12lovenos12 Рік тому +8

      @@jeffreycheng5984 fuel system service has no impact on direct injection, except maybe keeping combustion chambers cleaner. Valve are not touched by gasoline - extended oil change intervals CAN impact them due to oil vaporization/evaporation.

    • @gertstolk
      @gertstolk Рік тому +7

      Why is Toyota the only automaker to use both direct and indirect fuel injection?

    • @gertstolk
      @gertstolk Рік тому

      @@KM-ol5bs thanks, I didn't know

    • @12lovenos12
      @12lovenos12 Рік тому +3

      @@KM-ol5bs Ford uses on the Coyote (5.0)- the port injection is only used under high load, intake ports still get nasty- a 100k Coyote has valves and ports like a 40-50k DI engine. Good Oil is key. Not quick lube/Walmart cheap oil changes!! (Those ever, not just DI). QUALITY synthetic oils changed 5-7k will drastically reduce the garbage in the intake and ports/valve... Drastic as 25-40% improvement...
      Oil catch cans DO help... Again QUALITY IS KEY... Cheapest on Amazon/eBay is not going to do the trick....

  • @kraignadjkovic5494
    @kraignadjkovic5494 Рік тому +442

    Pretty common to have carbon buildup like that on a direct injection, regardless of the grade of fuel used or oil change interval.

    • @kamilianos
      @kamilianos Рік тому +15

      some cars suffer less due to effective PCV system. I've heard that N55 BMW engine is ok , while Audi 4.2 S5 V8 (2007-2010) requires regular blasting.

    • @seanfrank4158
      @seanfrank4158 Рік тому +16

      Exactly what I was thinking. I'm not sure if the 2.0 was direct injected in 2012 but that build up is completely likely with DI engines.

    • @ayayoutuber
      @ayayoutuber Рік тому +14

      @@eppyz even with direct injection, still should not get this bad.

    • @eppyz
      @eppyz Рік тому +5

      @@ayayoutuber VW took out the dual injection that the euro cars have that pretty much eliminated this problem... but its also part of routine maintenance... so as long as you get the valves cleaned every 60,000 miles is not a big deal. Many earlier direct injection systems did this the newer vw's it's not as bad.

    • @AnontheGOAT
      @AnontheGOAT Рік тому +31

      Was about to say the same thing. Oil change intervals and quality of has don’t have anything to do with DI carbon buildup. This would have happened even if the oil was changed every 5k and premium gas was used.

  • @Rextraordinaire
    @Rextraordinaire Рік тому +125

    The CC is the type of car that will absolutely punish you for giving it anything less than premium fuel & synthetic oil every 5k miles at the most. The problem is that the older ones can be picked up for about $4k now and the people that do are going to treat them accordingly

    • @Rextraordinaire
      @Rextraordinaire Рік тому +14

      @nomenclature9607 haha I was about to add in my original comment that with a Camry you can get away with using low grade gas and being stingy on oil but never a turbo VW

    • @williamegler8771
      @williamegler8771 Рік тому +12

      @nomenclature9607 Not everyone wants a Toyota Camry and the owner of this vehicle could have avoided the repairs if they followed the manufacturer's maintenance and fuel requirement recommendations.

    • @ronaldverduin7042
      @ronaldverduin7042 Рік тому +11

      Since it is direct injected, fuel does not have any effect at the inlet valves. An oil catchcan can reduce the carbon build up

    • @johnarnold893
      @johnarnold893 Рік тому +5

      @@Rextraordinaire German engineering is overly complicated and not too robust. I had an 88 300E that cost the price of two Camry's to own and maintain. Maintenance alone was worth the price of a new Camry at the time and you could have bought two, put one up on blocks and ran the first one with little maintenance for the life of a VW.

    • @Bizmyurt
      @Bizmyurt Рік тому +3

      in europe they have 18000 miles oil intervals and 2 years.

  • @simonfowler7561
    @simonfowler7561 Рік тому +18

    Great vid thanks Ninja! My naturally aspirated V8 Audi S4 is still running great at 220k kms. I take a larger non turbo engine every time.

  • @eppyz
    @eppyz Рік тому +38

    In this year of CC, GTI, and such with the 2.0T was pretty common knowledge that the timing chain tensioners can fail. I think VW even had a recall on them. Most likely the timing chain tensioner failed causing this issue. Totally preventable which is sad.

    • @TougeSolo
      @TougeSolo Рік тому +7

      and a common reason timing chain tensioners fail, is lack of oil. People not checking their oil. However in the VW's I think the problem was that it didn't have anything to stop the piston from exiting the housing of the tensioner, so it'd just keep pushing.

    • @eppyz
      @eppyz Рік тому +9

      @@TougeSolo well we don't know exactly what the problem is with this particular car all I'm saying is that on this era of Volkswagen it was very common have timing chain tensioner failures it was a faulty part and was fixed with a revised part so if the person didn't get the revised part didn't care to get it done or bought the car used in didn't know about this problem then there you go.

  • @illreportbackinabit.8514
    @illreportbackinabit.8514 Рік тому +12

    Motor looks very clean from an oil change perspective, zero sludge.

  • @nobb1euk1
    @nobb1euk1 Рік тому +10

    This is a problem with direct injection engines where the valves are not washed with fuel. See it all the time here in the UK even though regular oil changes are carried out and the use of 99 RON fuel. Some of the V8 Audis can be horrendous and lose around 30 bhp because of it. Ford eco boost engines also suffer running issues because of it.

  • @michaelw6277
    @michaelw6277 Рік тому +50

    Ninja, a couple of things about these engines...
    A trick for pulling the turbos off these transverse mounted Volkswagens is to get under the car and remove the fore/aft torque bar and use a ratchet strap hooked to something like the hood latch to pull the engine forward a few inches. Plenty of space back there to work when you do that. Working under the car is also a viable angle. Also, take care with the bolts that secure the turbo to the engine because at least one of them is prone to snapping off.
    Fuel quality doesn't seem to matter much when it comes to carbon deposits on the EA888s, and as far as I can tell neither does the oil change interval. I think what matters most is the kind of driving you do... city driving gunks them up faster than freeway driving. My GTI went 90k miles of mostly freeway driving without issues and I only had them cleaned because the intake manifold was off. My last 30k has mostly been city driving and now my car is stuttering and misfiring under part throttle driving conditions.
    Also, these cars are very nice to drive, so wanting to keep it on the road makes sense.

    • @JohnAbrahamsen
      @JohnAbrahamsen Рік тому +2

      EA888 have dual injectors (intake and direct). Deposits shouldnt be a problem.

    • @michaelw6277
      @michaelw6277 Рік тому +8

      @@JohnAbrahamsenI’m afraid that’s not true, to my knowledge no EA888 has come with port injection. Mine certainly doesn’t have it as I like to think I’d have noticed when I pulled the intake manifold to deal with a faulty (stuck open) injector.

    • @TheKnobCalledTone.
      @TheKnobCalledTone. Рік тому +2

      No offense, but suggesting that oil change intervals make no difference is one of the most ill-informed things I've ever read in a YT comments feed. If that's actually the case, then you should be able to change the oil every 100k miles without consequences (which is clearly a ridiculous statement).
      Oil change intervals are there for a reason, and these days manufacturers are optimistic (to put it politely). I'd rather change my oil more often than the book says and spend an extra $50-$70 a year on oil and filters than $5k or more on major repairs because the oil gummed up and led to engine damage.

    • @michaelw6277
      @michaelw6277 Рік тому +3

      @@TheKnobCalledTone. I was speaking strictly in terms of carbon deposits on the valves, and when I read that paragraph again it’s pretty obvious. Of course oil change interval matters, just not for the reason stated in this video.

    • @mpiny
      @mpiny Рік тому

      ninja clown

  • @allthingsrelative6622
    @allthingsrelative6622 Рік тому +13

    You're looking tired there Buddy. All the best to you and the team.

  • @GeekBoyMN
    @GeekBoyMN Рік тому +16

    I've watched a VW/Audi mechanic on Twitch for over 6 years work on this model engine many times and the main cause of the deposits on the intake valves is the direct injection. No fuel going over the valves to keep the intake part of the head clean as you would have in a non-DI engine. He does the walnut blast cleaning on these and they always run better afterwards.

    • @Salmon_Rush_Die
      @Salmon_Rush_Die Рік тому

      Intake cleaning ought to be routine maintenance item, but the VAG pretends it doesn't exist.

  • @skipcampbell4226
    @skipcampbell4226 Рік тому +11

    My daughter owned a Tiguan. I told her not to get it. Needless to say she said she will never own another VW! And some of my hard earned money went to VW to fix it! I love her. She had to learn the hard way.

    • @yournightmare9999
      @yournightmare9999 Рік тому +3

      People never learn from begging

    • @bh2155
      @bh2155 Рік тому +3

      I know your pain I spent 8k in repairs in a 2012 VW in 6 month time period. I fix one thing then 2 weeks later there is another problem

    • @ricktharp1
      @ricktharp1 3 місяці тому

      Total garbage cars

    • @WayToManyAssassins
      @WayToManyAssassins 10 днів тому

      german SUV's are on another realm of expensive

  • @mediasucks
    @mediasucks Рік тому +37

    That was the infamous VAG 2.0 TSI engine chain tensioner fail. It would've happened even if oil was changed every 1000 miles.

    • @philb707
      @philb707 Рік тому +3

      Yuppp its made to last "100k" you have to change it or it will fail

    • @au123ful
      @au123ful Рік тому +3

      Yup if you are getting Audi or VW get one that was manufactured after 2014. Those have the chain system that last for the life of the car supposedly and it has tension sensors. They were sued over a decade ago for the chains failing way before 100k.

    • @JamesParus
      @JamesParus Рік тому +3

      Also oil consumption issues are more likely fixed after 2014

    • @18_rabbit
      @18_rabbit Рік тому +1

      @@au123ful yep. that said, there are other serious design failings that can brick the engine all the way into late teen years, not sure which exactly, but all 888 derived engines are not worth buying used as cars ,unless the price is way below e.g. the current US mkt prices for these Vw and audi cars here in USa.

  • @doublebase6509
    @doublebase6509 Рік тому +7

    I’m not sure I’d blame that on oil changes, that’s one of the cleanest looking engines I’ve seen under a valve cover. On the valve stems themselves it was disgusting, but that’s what to expect with some VW DI engines. IMO.

  • @rambo4war
    @rambo4war Рік тому +2

    VWG 2.0Ts are to be written off and never fixed…..after 60k miles they are not worth any major repairs that arise…..trade them… for the 5 and 10k mile oil change crew, I’ve gone over 10k on my 3L TDI…the issue isn’t the frequency, the issue is the build quality of the motor. Even with the best TLC and heck 3k mile oil changes, let’s be honest it’s a garbage engine planned for obsolescence….it will make it to the 3 year warranty and go tits up no matter what you do.

  • @scotty6346
    @scotty6346 Рік тому +4

    I wouldn't say that engine has had a lack of oil changes? All components look pretty clean and free from sludge apart from the direct injection carbon build up on the valves.

  • @ninjabongtoker1
    @ninjabongtoker1 Рік тому +2

    Its a VW it would have had problems even if you used top tier gas and changed the oil every 3k

  • @PaulGinAZ68
    @PaulGinAZ68 Рік тому +57

    I've always told myself that with every turbocharged car I've ever owned, a 5k mile oil and filter change interval with synthetic is cheap, cheap insurance. I bought a "sludged" 2004 Passat 1.8t wagon back in 2009 for $4500 and after rebuilding the head, doing a timing belt service and replacing the oil pump and cleaning the pan, it was a faithful servant to me for many years.

    • @michaelholden6096
      @michaelholden6096 Рік тому +7

      I bought a 2015 escape with the 2.0 turbo changed oil every 5k with supertec full synthetic and every other fluid changed ahead of time and now my son drives it to school. Still runs good at 235,000ish miles.

    • @habi0187
      @habi0187 Рік тому

      Well the 1.8 T is still a MPI type of engine that cleans itself from the carbon buildups. Later direct injection engines all suffer the problem of the carbon buildups that are caused by the fact that modern cars all recirculate the exhaust gases this means a modern car runs up to 70% of the air that's used to fill the cylinders has already been used in a previous combustion. In order to increase the filling rate of the cylinder the hot exhaust gases have to be cooled down and this is done in a combined valve cooler device that's connected to the cooling water cycle. However the cooler gas cannot contain the same amount of smut like the hotter gas and so you create the buildups. This is the mother of the problem the cooler you make the gas the better for the efficiency of the motor but the more carbon buildups you have and it seems the engineers of VW have put too much weight on fuel economy and not so much on durability. Others might have made other decisions. Regular oil changes help and there are also some additives available that shall help to clean the system but I don't know how good they are.
      Luckily my car doesn't have any of these problems since I am running it on LPG and when I am making an oil change after 10,000 miles the oil is still of a dark honey colour instead of the black you get from petrol or even worse diesel engines.
      However the LPG conversion is not cheap at first place and I don't know if LPG is available in the US here in Europe it is different for country to country.

    • @MrFezco
      @MrFezco Рік тому +1

      Several gas and diesel turbos in the family. From an X1 to a Juke to Macan S to mini Duramax Colorado.
      The gassers get 10 k km (6 k miles) oil changes except the Macan. It has an 8 litre sump. It goes 15 k km 9 k miles). The diesel is 12 k km.
      Don’t EVER look at a diesel intake manifold. Looks like asphalt.
      Oh ya only 87 gas is all of them. Including the Moto Guzzi.
      Don’t bag drive them to red line and they’ll reward you with several hundred thousand miles like ours.

    • @lo1234-w9r
      @lo1234-w9r Рік тому

      @@habi0187 Here in the US my dad had a farm tractor converted to propane back in the 70's, today it's not cost efficient compared to petrol. It's a popular fuel for home heating in rural areas.

    • @habi0187
      @habi0187 Рік тому

      @@lo1234-w9r here in Europe it's different LPG is about 40% cheaper than petrol or diesel so if you drive enough it pays back. Additionally you can avoid many problems with the engines as long as the system is implemented professionally. Unfortunately there are not many shops that can do it really good.

  • @AstrologerJoe
    @AstrologerJoe Рік тому

    Why do German manufacturers produce such shitty engines? rhetorical question 😁 Great job Ninja!

  • @jameslovitt994
    @jameslovitt994 Рік тому +7

    Can't believe it didn't damage a piston, owner got lucky with that one.

  • @dandare2829
    @dandare2829 Рік тому +44

    Jonny, would love to see longer videos of your work, it’s educational and entertaining 👍

  • @horatiop818
    @horatiop818 Рік тому +9

    I am selfish...I want to see CarNinja videos for the next 30 years: Car Ninja, please, please, please...make sure to always wear gloves.

    • @mbak7801
      @mbak7801 Рік тому

      ??????

    • @wynhughes9072
      @wynhughes9072 Рік тому

      Because engine oil is carcinogenic. Wear gloves and wash your hands regularly

    • @horatiop818
      @horatiop818 Рік тому +1

      @@jbphilly1234 Skin is the largest organ, by surface, of the human body. It will absorb to varying degrees ANY fluid that is placed on it. Hydrocarbons/petroleum distillates are not substances that are recommended for human contact. Used hydrocarbons, even more so. Having one's hand soaked in it for hours and hours on end, every day, day after day, is just asking for trouble...Modern day humans are sometimes exposed to dangerous chemicals in situations that cannot easily/cheaply be avoided. Wearing protection gloves is not one of them.

  • @boeingav8tr525
    @boeingav8tr525 Рік тому +3

    Gas didn’t do that. Ignoring obvious timing chain slap did that.
    Gas shouldn’t make a difference. If you’re not changing the oil, then the tensioners stop working and the chain can work it’s way loose.
    Known issue on VAG engines. That said, I’ve run both my TDIs and Hybrid Jetta on the factory oil change schedule. But I was driving 30k miles a year. IMHO the big issue is time between oil changes. The stuff just gums up over time. This is where disuse is worse than running the crap out of an engine

    • @eponymous7910
      @eponymous7910 Рік тому

      9 months/7k mile oil changes with the correct spec oil are about right. Any earlier and it's overkill but leave it longer and the oil loses the properties required to lubricate and protect the various components adequately

  • @21Piloteer
    @21Piloteer Рік тому +16

    This is from people that believe the 10K OCI on the jug of oil. Ahmed from the Car Care Nut channel showed a Camry that was burning through oil like there's now tomorrow because of it. The customer was rewarded with a new short block.

    • @flinch622
      @flinch622 Рік тому

      That was a good episode. And not only mileage on the oil, but some of these odd new oil specs that can "flat spot" [as in fail to maintain a minimum of 8 psi per 1k rpm]. Who cares what meager fractional fuel economy "gain" is when it makes the engine fail prematurely? I respect design for cold viscosity - they want 0w, then ok. Flow is worth more than pressure at start up. But that is not where an engine lives: 30 [hot] seems to make the most sense, except for the tightest of engines. I will definitely never trust 16 except I need to run in Antarctic or the nether regions of Canada midwinter.

  • @noseefood1943
    @noseefood1943 Рік тому +2

    I still don’t understand how cheap gas and gunky oil made those bent valves. It take a huge force to bend valve stems like hitting the cylinder.

    • @Johnny-yx2qx
      @Johnny-yx2qx Рік тому

      Proper lube makes everything run smoother, if not it makes the engine work hard cause of the pressure

  • @MrMattDat
    @MrMattDat Рік тому +13

    It is amazing how calm you remain with all the crap that comes your way. Great job Ninja!!

    • @ihavethedocuments2580
      @ihavethedocuments2580 Рік тому

      Gotta have patience to work on a BMW. He called it before he took it apart 👍

    • @sihotech
      @sihotech Рік тому +1

      he gets paid regardless. it's not like he's doing this for free.

    • @NeutronX101
      @NeutronX101 Рік тому

      @@sihotechyes but he gets paid based on scale. The longer he takes the less he makes.

  • @arsenyrazhkov4559
    @arsenyrazhkov4559 Рік тому +1

    All because people listen to the dealership which says 15k intervals for oil change. People who are informed and smart change the oil every 5000

  • @erniestarkey8856
    @erniestarkey8856 Рік тому +3

    I really enjoy your channel. Hope you make videos for a long time. I am pretty good do it yourself mechanic and enjoy this content. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kmorton54
    @kmorton54 8 місяців тому +1

    I just watched a video where Jonny complained about working on a 2010 Volvo S80 3.2. Any transverse mounted engines are a major pain to work on

  • @Nitrousbird
    @Nitrousbird Рік тому +17

    I like Johnny, but how does cheap gas = carbon on a DI motor? Since fuel never hits the valves, it makes 0.0 difference on carbon buildup.
    Next, oil changes. Does clean oil burn off valves better? Deposits on the valves are the direct result of a poor performing PCV system; sometimes from lack of maintenance, and many times from simply poor design. Oil hitting the valves + no fuel to wash it off like a port injection motor = this.

    • @5thelementcannabisproduction
      @5thelementcannabisproduction Рік тому +3

      its designed that way so this repair eventually happens to all GDI's , its called planned obsolescence . So essentially, Greta grenaded this guys engine .

    • @georgeanddaddecker7563
      @georgeanddaddecker7563 Рік тому

      True, Euro spec gets both GDI and Port injectors. The reason VW does not do the same here is US is not as strict as Euro 5 requirements. Absolute BS .

    • @craighawley3920
      @craighawley3920 Рік тому

      I'm no mechanic, but if the oil change interval was too long wouldn't we also have expected to see some varnishing on the heads? Or is that only old oil and doesn't happen with fully synthetic?

    • @nigelalderman9178
      @nigelalderman9178 Рік тому

      I think lack of oil changes allows excessive carbon build up in the oil. This jams the oil control rings starting a cycle of oil burning and carbon build up. Detergent in the gas helps keep the rings free a little bit also less EGR necessary with the right octane. All these modern engines are a bit sensitive with small clearances and passages.

    • @nigelalderman9178
      @nigelalderman9178 Рік тому

      In Europe walnut blasting the intakes is standard maintenance. Oil changes and the correct fuel prevent exessive carbon jamming the oil control rings.@@5thelementcannabisproduction

  • @bartsignaal
    @bartsignaal Рік тому +1

    These are just terrible engines. Ours 2010 CC had the timing chain tensioner fail with only 72k km (45k miles) on the odo, oil was changed every 12k km (7.500 miles).

  • @jeffbaldwin9842
    @jeffbaldwin9842 Рік тому +4

    Lack of maintenance is what keeps the repair shops in business. At least change the oil people! Good stuff, thanks

  • @reubenj.cogburn8546
    @reubenj.cogburn8546 Рік тому +1

    Cheap gas ?
    Exactly, how is that determined? Who sells this and where?
    Hint.... there is not. There is contaminated fuel, but "cheap gas" is BS mechanic double talk.
    Christ, he's never worked on a transverse powertrain?
    Where you been the last 50 years?

  • @chefjefe68
    @chefjefe68 Рік тому +44

    Thanks for another informative video, Ninja. Just crazy to see all those bent valves. It makes me very glad I have been changing LiquiMoly 5W-40 out of my 2013 328i every 5K miles. I also use only Shell 93 octane fuel. At 149K miles, my timing chain is still quiet.

    • @DannyGrc
      @DannyGrc Рік тому +4

      N52 is prettily much indestructible. Mine is a 2011 and a little over 75k so it’s got a long life ahead lol

    • @sorinsrn5442
      @sorinsrn5442 Рік тому +3

      Liqui Moly is good oil.

    • @chefjefe68
      @chefjefe68 Рік тому +4

      @@DannyGrc My 2013 has the N20. I wish they kept the inline 6 goodness of the N52 for the F30.

    • @chefjefe68
      @chefjefe68 Рік тому +1

      @@ginog5037 the car jumped timing. It is an interference engine, so the valves were bent from hitting the pistons.

    • @rosen9425
      @rosen9425 Рік тому +1

      @@ginog5037
      good luck getting any compression out of that engine. Good lucking even turning it over 🙄

  • @lieberfreialsgleich
    @lieberfreialsgleich Рік тому +1

    I guess everyone should know, that “Volks-“ of Volkswagen in German means average or cheap😂. The cars are not cheap, but the quality. They are made to fail. Like Audi. There is a big difference to Bmw and Mercedes.

  • @jimmurray8713
    @jimmurray8713 Рік тому +3

    It would be interesting to know why it jumped timing, but the carbon on the valves has nothing to do with fuel quality in a direct injection engine.

  • @JasPlun
    @JasPlun 11 місяців тому +1

    LOL the expressions on your face was worth watching as you progressed through the horror of it all. Thinking if only they serviced this car properly! My wife drives a 2020 Toyota Camry SE and we just had the coolant and transmission serviced at 45k miles and the service tech at Toyota says they recommend transmission service at 80k miles and I was yeah they do because they want to sell me a new transmission at some point. For years I have always serviced my transmissions every 45k and never had problems and always got 200k or more out of them. I have a cousin who purchased a Nissan Maxima with a CVT and I told him service it every 25-30k and he did and he now has 220k on a Nissan CVT!

  • @Lintary
    @Lintary Рік тому +6

    would note if you think cheap gas saves you money, go see how many miles you can go on a tank on cheap gas vs quality gas, the difference might surprise you and actually make the quality gas the cheaper option.

    • @jaskajokunen3716
      @jaskajokunen3716 Рік тому

      My car doesn't even run right on the cheap gas 🤔

    • @gargar8196
      @gargar8196 Рік тому

      It’s cheaper in the long run

  • @ivdubgti
    @ivdubgti Рік тому +2

    This happened on my 2014 Jetta GLI at 105K Miles. All scheduled maintenance was done early and premium top tier gas was always used. It's just a bad design and is a common problem on this motor. VW lost a class action lawsuit regarding timing chain failure on this motor. Also, You will see carbon build up on the intake valves of Direct Injection Motors no matter what kind of fuel you use,. As the fuel never touches the back of the valves like a Port Injected Motor.

  • @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic
    @elmayimbe_the_amateur_mechanic Рік тому +12

    We need more videos, Johnny!

    • @jp-nq5wd
      @jp-nq5wd Рік тому

      I enjoy Jonny's video's too but I think if he had a choice he wouldn't be doing them. I just get the feeling that being in front of the camera isn't his thing.

    • @alexcallas8222
      @alexcallas8222 Рік тому +1

      @@jp-nq5wd Agree- that's probably why there were no new ones for three months.

  • @Nordic_Mechanic
    @Nordic_Mechanic Рік тому +1

    failed from known bad tensionner on these engine. The carbon is normal for a volks direct injection thats never been cleaned. Oil and gas has nothing to do with this failure, the tensionner is the culprit. Just a terrible choice in the engineering department, since you know, weve only been making cars for 200 years

  • @youtoobe169
    @youtoobe169 Рік тому +4

    That engine looked clean inside unless I missed something.

  • @Antonio-gq6fx
    @Antonio-gq6fx Рік тому +2

    The cars are built to be,cared for not neglected

  • @robthad151
    @robthad151 Рік тому +6

    Amazing how chill and relaxed Car Ninja is considering what he works on.

    • @sniggitty
      @sniggitty Рік тому +1

      he has 4 yachts, 3 model girlfriends, 2 lambos, 3 houses, etc. Thats why he is chill.

    • @johns6331
      @johns6331 Рік тому +1

      Yes, considering he doesn't know what he's doing and is just winging it without following the factory procedures. Also, disappointed in how it looks like he plans to repair the head -- by just plopping in new valves. This car should have a rebuilt head, and new tensioners, chains, cam bridge, possible turbo, etc.. This is a hack repair. Not impressed.

    • @6lemans10
      @6lemans10 10 місяців тому

      ​@johns6331 The question is the customer willing to pay for the job??

    • @mikekares-b8q
      @mikekares-b8q 8 місяців тому

      That's funny he probably has a dollar or two​@@sniggitty

  • @petrolhead28
    @petrolhead28 Рік тому +2

    If you can't afford to look after a car don't have one

  • @andrewhillman9632
    @andrewhillman9632 Рік тому +4

    I had the CC after this generation purchased new and it depreciated like a rocket powered stone thrown off a cliff. I haven't looked at Gen 1 CC values on pre-owned market but this looks like a pretty big investment. That CC must have some sentimenal value to the owner. 😮

    • @Rextraordinaire
      @Rextraordinaire Рік тому +2

      They tanked so fast. I bought a '15 that the original owner paid $41k for. I paid $13.5 in 2019

    • @eppyz
      @eppyz Рік тому

      Want to know bad resale value? Buy a Hyundai 🙄 what a freaking horror show

  • @tonistarks2874
    @tonistarks2874 Рік тому +1

    I change my oil on all my cars that i use every 3 to 4 months.neber had problems with my engines 👍🏽just the way i roll

  • @robertanna9964
    @robertanna9964 Рік тому +4

    Could someone please explain exactly how and why low octane gas can cause the timing chain to jump?

    • @costasmandylor7252
      @costasmandylor7252 Рік тому

      That isn't what caused the timing chain to jump. When oil changes are too infrequent it causes the timing chain to wear and "stretch". This causes loss of tension, and that loss of tension on the timing chain is what allows it to "jump" teeth. The cheap gas doesn't have some of the detergents better gasoline has which helps cut down on carbon deposits and other contaminants inside the engine. Combine that with infrequent oil changes and you're just circulating a lot of extra abrasive material inside the engine, wearing critical parts sooner.

    • @Nitrousbird
      @Nitrousbird Рік тому +4

      @@costasmandylor7252 lol, how does a lack of detergent in the fuel help carbon buildup on a direct injection engine, where the valves never see ANY fuel. Talk about some bad info.

    • @costasmandylor7252
      @costasmandylor7252 Рік тому

      Oil circulates throughout the engine. And there are more wear points in the engine than just the valves. Re-read the original question. What doesn't get burned off in combustion ends up in the oil. The more contaminants in the oil, the more abrasives grinding on the working parts of the engine. Better gas burns cleaner and the better additive package reduces the particulate contaminants in the engine that then ends up circulating around in the oil. Better gas and better OCI's = less timing chain stretch, which keeps it from jumping teeth and bending your valves.

    • @jondiaz3475
      @jondiaz3475 Рік тому +3

      The issue on the 09-12 Passat and CC is the shitty camchain tensioner. There was a class action lawsuit over it, and VW revised the design at least three times.

    • @costasmandylor7252
      @costasmandylor7252 Рік тому +1

      @@jondiaz3475 Unfortunately tensioners going bad is pretty common. Some manufacturers make it easy to replace them, like Honda on their K series engines.

  • @lontarian2228
    @lontarian2228 Рік тому +1

    Not worth the price of repair. I had a CC for almost 8 years, and before selling it, the oil consumption was getting bad.

  • @Wpjgdmtu
    @Wpjgdmtu Рік тому +19

    The cheap gas thing is a myth, this will happen regardless of how well cared for it is. Only way to combat it is a carbon cleaning.

    • @hokie9910
      @hokie9910 Рік тому +7

      I agree. I have burned nothing but regular for 15 years in my Toyota’s and Lexus’s and no carbon issues at all. Computers can compensate for lesser fuel. If a car is having carbon issues it’s die to the fact that the engine was designed properly and gas and oil changes can only do so much. At the end of the day, folks…if you want reliability and durability I would not be buying anything from Germany.

    • @hokie9910
      @hokie9910 Рік тому +1

      @@jbphilly1234 My wife’s lx570 calls for premium, guess what, we run it on regular and it runs great. It’s a 100k vehicle and I don’t lose any sleep that regular fuel is detrimental. The computer, again if designed correctly, compensates. Instead of having 381hp it puts out 376hp according to a Toyota engineer I have spoken with.

    • @maxheadroom224
      @maxheadroom224 Рік тому

      ​@@hokie9910the engine uses port injection not direct injection

    • @hokie9910
      @hokie9910 Рік тому +1

      @@maxheadroom224 Even the Toyota’s and Lexus’s that use direct injection run just fine with regular gas, because why,,.they know how to engineer them correctly. Oh and they use port and direct injection together so they don’t have the carbon issues in the first place. BMW and Mercedes, please stop your insanity. We all know you make crap cars and most people lease them and then the poor guy who doesn’t know better buys it used and thinks he’s getting a great deal. Look I just bought a 70k bmw for 25k, then over the next year he spends 10k in repairs, and repeat every year after until someone like Hoovie comes along and buys it 10 years old for peanuts to make a video to pay for all of the repairs while caught on camera to make us all laugh.

    • @runner3033
      @runner3033 Рік тому +1

      @@jbphilly1234 High octane fuel is only necessary to achieve the power rating advertised by the manufacturer. Otherwise, the PCM is listening for knock all the time and will just pull timing if it is detected and you make less power. That's it, that's all. The low octane/high octane thing is a myth that just will not die... it has not been a thing since the advent of EFI.

  • @Leehuss5582
    @Leehuss5582 Рік тому +1

    I changed my oil and oil filter at my dealer garage last week and mechanic said I will ruin engine with regular changes every 5k milage.
    Went to a independent from dealer who said doing what Im doing will take car to a million miles on clock....whose correct im confused?

  • @AdamIsUrqed
    @AdamIsUrqed Рік тому +8

    Change oil once a year, even if you put less than 5k miles on it. Change at 5k at the max with manual demanded oil. Ignore that 10k mile nonsense. Also, don't ignore your trans fluid. "Lifetime" means you're going to rebuild that bugger, or replace it, at some point. They have filters for a reason. Also, don't neglect radiator flushes and plugs/wires or coils. Maintenance can be expensive, but nowhere near the cost of a new engine and/or transmission.

  • @buttsexandbananapeels
    @buttsexandbananapeels Рік тому +9

    That doesn’t look too varnished up. Looks relatively well maintained.

  • @zstation64
    @zstation64 Рік тому +1

    Tell me you don’t know what you’re doing, without telling me you don’t know what you’re doing.

  • @andrewthomason3857
    @andrewthomason3857 Рік тому +2

    The fact that this owner was willing to go ahead and fix this is a pretty good indicator that your shop labor rate is too low.

    • @tylerniday8935
      @tylerniday8935 Рік тому

      he seems to be making enough income. some customers just do not care about price

  • @cdpgbc-mw2kz
    @cdpgbc-mw2kz Рік тому +1

    Too cheap to use premium, which is the recommended gas. Put in 87 octane and get a 5000.00 prize.

  • @andrewdonohue1853
    @andrewdonohue1853 Рік тому +1

    Regular oil changes are necessary, change the oil more frequently then what is stated in the owners manual.
    Gasoline is Gasoline, just follow the owners manual as to what octane the vehicle requires

  • @stevedeleon8775
    @stevedeleon8775 Рік тому +5

    I'm a firm believer in 3,000 mile oil changes that's why ALL my vehicles have lasted over 250,000 + miles

    • @Autistus2
      @Autistus2 Рік тому +1

      Nah you can go 6k with modern synthetic oil and changing the filter each time. My 2008 nissan 350z has 250k miles and I’ve done them for 10 years now

  • @kclefthanded427
    @kclefthanded427 Рік тому +1

    No wonder dealers wants you buy another car with 10k mile oil changes on purpose

  • @099las
    @099las Рік тому +1

    Title should be: Poor engine design and disposable modern cars = throw away item

  • @jessieharbinjr.6589
    @jessieharbinjr.6589 Рік тому +1

    I would have stopped once I saw the sludge and bent valves. Called up the customer, and quoted a new engine. Even if this one is repaired, it’s still going to open a can of worms for problems in the future.

  • @jayson657
    @jayson657 Рік тому +1

    Where do you get cheap fuel? Most gas stations no matter what brand get filled by the same tanker truck.

  • @billnye5183
    @billnye5183 Рік тому +1

    I thought I was crazy for doing 6K mile oil changes on my bmw

  • @ayayoutuber
    @ayayoutuber Рік тому +1

    don't change oil, use cheap gas... saved a little..now engine go bye bye.

  • @int53185
    @int53185 Рік тому +2

    Frequent oil changes. Top tier fuel. And a weekly Italian tune-up.

  • @JonDoe-007
    @JonDoe-007 Рік тому +1

    The carbon buildup is from normal operation. Those are gdi engines.

  • @davidoliver6597
    @davidoliver6597 Рік тому +2

    I owned a 2012 GTI 6spd 2.0 from new. Change the oil every 4-5K with Castro 5W-40 Euro and OE VW Oil filters. At 60K- Boom! Bent valves and carbon up the wazzooo Oh... by the way, I strictly put BP/Amoco Ultimate or Shell 93. Loved the car, but never a VW again! Never! Just a little thing called a faulty timing chain tensioner... bad design. VW is on their 40th rendition I believe. And chunks of carbon like you wouldn't believe!

  • @javarithms
    @javarithms Рік тому +1

    If you can't afford to buy a proper German car stick to Asian cars. VW 💩

  • @DrRick-dq4bb
    @DrRick-dq4bb Рік тому +1

    Hi Jonny. You would have been a great orthopedic surgeon. Maybe you will change the name of your UA-cam channel from Car Ninja to Car Surgeon. I love watching you work.

  • @Der_Ingenieur
    @Der_Ingenieur Рік тому +1

    No amount of oil changes or type of oil would have prevented the chain from stretching and the consequential jump in timing.

  • @davidlambert6171
    @davidlambert6171 Рік тому +1

    Repairing a Toyota is like Appendectomy surgery while repairing a BMW is like Heart Transplant surgery!

    • @2148aa
      @2148aa Рік тому

      Yet they lineup to buy the BMW.

  • @kmorton54
    @kmorton54 Рік тому +1

    Another quality engine from VW Audi 😂

  • @Jmg831
    @Jmg831 Рік тому +1

    Where’s the cheap fuel, I’ve been looking all over for it

  • @theBoomerDoomer
    @theBoomerDoomer Рік тому +1

    This is why Americans should generally not buy Euros... not because of they're awful or anything... it's because most Americans aren't fastidious with upkeep and maintenance on their autos. Most of you reading this who do care are in a very distinct minority.

  • @x4tfxChallenger
    @x4tfxChallenger Рік тому +1

    A rule of thumb that I have found helpful.
    -Non-high performing vehicles (Camry, Corolla, Altima, etc, change oil every 7k-7.5k miles (if using full synthetic.
    -High performing vehicles (mustangs, Lexus, Challengers, Chargers, Camaro, etc, change oil every 5k-6k miles.
    Also, intervals will change depending on how your drive, driving conditions in your area, idling time, quality of oil, average temperature of oil (high temperature can break down detergents in oil more quickly), and quality of oil filter. There are other things as well. Keep your car healthy y’all!🫡

    • @jaskajokunen3716
      @jaskajokunen3716 Рік тому

      I change my oils every year, including transmission oil 🤔Dunno if its overkill but its a volvo with aisin automatic, not most reliable autos and im at 333whp, and alot of people said they can handle around 300whp 😔

  • @boostedmaniac
    @boostedmaniac Рік тому +2

    This looks more like a VW issue with the tensioner that a oil / gas problem. The inside of that engine looked pretty clean.

  • @tomkruze2749
    @tomkruze2749 Рік тому +1

    ***people always try using cheap Gas. Some vehicles are designed to ton on 91 octane. Get over it.

    • @jml9550
      @jml9550 Рік тому

      I always buy the cheapest gas but if 91 is required, I put in 91. But I also do a techron gas treatment every year on longer trips.

  • @johnweiland9389
    @johnweiland9389 Рік тому +1

    I thought every direct injection engine gets carbon build up. Im sure being cheap 9n oil changes didnt help.

    • @johnweiland9389
      @johnweiland9389 Рік тому +1

      Ive never even thought of buying a vw, Porsche, or audi. Too afraid of the repair bills. What type of car does the mechanic buy?

  • @RayTitske
    @RayTitske Рік тому +1

    Its not the cheap oil .its the crap engine vw using.

  • @gasolara2002
    @gasolara2002 Рік тому +1

    Those 2.0t motors are money pits. 5k oil change intervals, lots of preventative maintenance and top tier fuel will keep them alive. Honestly the v6/vr6 engines are better and way more reliable.

  • @HuyQuang-ds7cj
    @HuyQuang-ds7cj Рік тому +1

    5k miles is still a lot. I change my oil every 4k km

  • @seeyawouldntwannabeya347
    @seeyawouldntwannabeya347 Рік тому +1

    It always amazes me that people don't change their oil and use cheap gas. Always use premium gas and change synthetic oil every 5,000 miles.

  • @risinbison1106
    @risinbison1106 Рік тому +1

    Look at all that plastic. Disposable car.

  • @mesropmadzharyan6727
    @mesropmadzharyan6727 Рік тому +1

    Will it be cheaper just to get a new engine?.

  • @Alexander-zs5rj
    @Alexander-zs5rj Рік тому +1

    For me its look like timing problem ...

  • @78PastorE
    @78PastorE Рік тому +1

    Hey Johnny, how often do the VW VR6’s come through your shop for work? The 3.2 or the 3.6’s. Trying to see how reliable the newer ones are.

  • @AlessandroGenTLe
    @AlessandroGenTLe Рік тому +1

    I may understand the oil (direct injection + old oil = carbon) but what the fuel has to do with carbon deposit on valves, considering it's injected straight into the combustion chamber?

  • @AnontheGOAT
    @AnontheGOAT Рік тому +2

    I think Johnny misspoke when he said “take the Vanos out” on that VW 😆

  • @Joshtheweatherman
    @Joshtheweatherman Рік тому

    $50 oil change vs $5,000 engine repair. I would rather change the oil myself, even if it’s on a car that’s a pain in the a$$ to work on. I always change mine every 5k miles, and my transmission fluid I change every 30k miles.

  • @RobotsCanDoAnything
    @RobotsCanDoAnything Рік тому +1

    Great video Ninga, always learn something from watching your video posts.
    Thank you.

    • @rsc9520
      @rsc9520 Рік тому

      Me too !!! I always learn something from the Ninja.

  • @garypiont6114
    @garypiont6114 3 місяці тому

    Myself I would not match the parts. Let them equalize. Good oil will take care of abnormalities. From Aurora Illinois. Thanks for the vids. Saw you on Jr's vids

  • @josels1292
    @josels1292 Рік тому +1

    I have a Camaro SS1le, bought it new and had the first oil change at 800 miles. After that I change my oil and filter every 2,000 miles. Overkill? Yes, but this is just me. I drive it hard so I take extra care.

  • @jp-nq5wd
    @jp-nq5wd Рік тому +1

    To quote a famous youtuber..."oil is cheap, engines are expensive"

    • @2fast4all
      @2fast4all Рік тому

      You can reference Scotty. Its safe.

    • @jp-nq5wd
      @jp-nq5wd Рік тому

      @@2fast4all 👍👍

  • @nightstorm9128
    @nightstorm9128 Рік тому

    Your not American ,,you should know better,,,,It's not a 2.0 it's pronounced 2 litre ,,,,,that's it,,,,,,,not 2.0 litre .....you wouldn't go in a shop in America and ask for a 2.0 quarts of milk would you,,,,well in Europe we say 1 litre or 2 litre or 2.2 litre or 3 litre ect....

  • @FALCORTON
    @FALCORTON Рік тому

    Johnny / YT. how does everyone feel about the 3rd GEN TSI. I have a 2017 Passat with the 1.8t. Not to be confused with the almighty mk4 1.8t.
    I've been doing 5k oil changes and just hit 50k. anything to look out for / preventative maintenance I should look for

  • @noonehere1793
    @noonehere1793 Рік тому

    WHY do people buy nice cars and then drive them into the ground …. And then complain about them….. I JUST DON’T GET IT 😱😱😱 i will put $5.00 on the fact that the owner will come back and complain about the fact that you ruined the turbo while working on it!😜

  • @lowlevelcritter7577
    @lowlevelcritter7577 Рік тому +2

    This has nothing to do with premium gas. Possibly an issue of not using Top Tier gas in a GDI engine.

    • @robertanna9964
      @robertanna9964 Рік тому

      I agree.

    • @Nitrousbird
      @Nitrousbird Рік тому

      And please explain how any type of fuel would have anything to do with carbon buildup on valves on a Direct Injection engine.

  • @mrbungle112loser5
    @mrbungle112loser5 Рік тому

    Car ninja is smart!!!
    We don’t specialize on Lexus Toyota cars ..!!Asain cars
    No broken no fixed no money..
    Germans cars is a money pit!!

  • @daysofgrace2934
    @daysofgrace2934 11 місяців тому

    DI is the root problem. No DI, DPF, EGR, SCR or swirl-flaps on my car. I my happy use a bit extra fuel to keep the car running well; I'm not chasing higher MPGs but look at the total cost of ownership. Once the car is warm is I use the revs, keeping the oil pressures up for better turbo life. Cool the car down. I always service including the ATF and sump none of this lifetime servicing and when things get worn out I build back better...

  • @henktulp4400
    @henktulp4400 Рік тому

    The newer the car... the more complicated;the more likely to develop a breakdown AND the more expensive the repair!!
    Keep in mind that,as fueldriven cars will become extinct,the reputation of the combustion engine has no importance at all..... in fact the more sick and tired carowners become of petrol (and Diesel-) cars the smoother the introduction of electric vehicles will be...
    Wake up to the fact that reliable (more expensive-) combustion-engines is probably counter-effective to almost every carproducer!!!!
    I have returned to old cars (from ‘28 Model A up to ‘70’s Citroen)..... so much fun to drive,and if one car has a problem there is always another one ready to go....
    I can fix everything myself,parts are cheap.... no depreciation,no roadtax.... cheap insurance.... and everybody loves classic cars!!!