Kilowatt Half Hour Episode 31: Cyberster cash, MINI’s rain dance & tyre troubles | Electrifying.com
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This week, Ginny, Mike and Tom shoot the electric breeze on a variety of subjects, including World Car of the Year, the long-awaited return of the Ford Explorer and Omoda's arrival in the UK . The team also answer listeners' questions to help them find the perfect electric car.
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Every week, the Electrifying.com meet online to discuss all the important matters at hand. Such as the weather, what we’re all having for our tea and who dumped who in last night’s Love Island. Between these heavyweight subjects, we also talk about electric cars. A lot. Probably an unhealthy amount to be honest.
And when we do discuss cars, we find out a lot. From industry gossip to the more mundane practicalities of electric car ownership, it’s the place where we dish the dirt on the cars we’ve been driving and deliver our own verdicts on the latest electric car news. We also like to have a good laugh at the daftest bits of anti-electric news that we’ve seen in the press.
We can’t promise that you’ll learn much. You probably won’t. But if you fancy 30 minutes of idle chat and gossip about the world of electric cars, we’re here for you. If you like it / hate it / think it’s too long or too short, let us know. - Авто та транспорт
Just took delivery of my first EV, a Skoda Enyaq. Thank you for all your brilliant reviews and insights as they all helped me choose my car. Keep up the great work.
I've just done a 1200 mile road trip over 7 days from Manchester to NI and Ireland in my Q8 Etron. Tebay (Northbound) on the way up, destination chargers at the hotels, Ionity Carlisle on the way home. No problems anywhere. Public charging was lunch stop on the way up and a coffee stop on the way back. No additional time spent charging. The change in public charging over the last year, has been significant.
About to become a 3 ev household later this week, we already have a vw e up, was joined by an ORA 03 in March, and have now purchased a VW ID4 21 plate first edition on a very low pcp finance rate, it’s replacing the eup that goes back in a couple of months, we are loving the variety and have a very soft spot for the eup but it is salary sacrifice and has to go back but the ID4 is only costing an additional £30 a month with 2 years warranty and servicing included.
The car doesn't disappear when you sell. What matters is how long it remains on the road not how long you keep it. All those 2-3yr old lease cars drive the used car trade.
Servicing? What will they do?
@@scotteladd2537generally inspect it, replace the brake fluid, pollen filter every two years and that’s about it I believe!
Driving south on the M6 in my e2008, I wanted to charge at Tebay. The sign by the road said there were chargers, so I pulled off only to find they were all Tesla, which was kinda frustrating.
I got in touch once I got home, and I was told that you've to drive across to the northbound side via a small service road to reach the chargers for other cars.
There may be a sign, but I didn't see it - was lucky enough to have power to continue. Thought I'd share in case anyone gets in a similar pickle.
Can’t be doing with those bongs! I’m so grateful that on the Niro EV you can turn off the audible speed warnings and it stays off. It still shows the angry little red notice in the HUD, but I can put up with that.
I just had a test drive in the new Mini e, and I came away very impressed.
What a fantastic little car to drive! The suspension is compliant over rough surfaces and always feels planted (except under max acceleration where the front end lifts, but doesn't scrabble for grip (on dry roads)).
It feels really fast and confidence inspiring, the"B" mode is really well judged, and actually allows one pedal driving.
Mike’s comment about changing perceptions in the EV world has, I think, great relevance to previous tech changes. I used to work for a TV manufacturer, we were regularly in the top 3 brands and consumers would only buy a Samsung or LG if if they couldn’t afford something decent. How times changed with the advent of LCD/LED TVs. Samsung is now No.1, LG 2 and my old employer has gone bust!
Would that be Zenith?
@@scotteladd2537 No, a brand sold in Europe not the US
We also have 2 EVs in our household. Both our cars (Vx Corsa & Skoda Enyaq I 60) combined travels about 1100+ miles per month and with our ICE cars a couple of years ago costs about £150 per month whereas now with EVs is costing us anywhere between £40 - £50 per month for the 2 EVs. Saving us about £100 a month which we're loving the savings.
Why aren’t charging rates advertised like petrol prices at charging and multi fuel forecourts?! Especially those with a mix of charging suppliers, saw prices of 49p per kw for open tesla superchargers across from other suppliers fast chargers at 79p and the Tesla ones weren’t even being used by others when they could have been so they were all paying far higher prices. Why is there no regulation yet on charging prices?!
I’m looking forward to getting my next vehicle!! It won’t be a car, per see, but a car based camper based on the Vauxhall Combo Life Electric.
Teabay is definitely the best services. They have recently added 12 charging bays to the Northbound side and 4 Southbound that are cheaper than Gridserve. Food is expensive but so worth it. 🤤
0:00: 🚗 Discussion on recent electric car news and updates on the Kilowatt Half Hour podcast.
3:53: 💡 Discussion on upcoming electric car Cyberster, including power, pricing, and comparison to traditional petrol cars.
7:19: 🔋 Tesla's cutback on supercharging stations raises concerns about charging accessibility and Elon Musk's strategic decisions.
11:15: 🚗 Innovative car sounds composed by a proper composer, including nods to the classic Mini Morris.
14:27: 🚗 BYD Dolphin returns with Apple CarPlay after initial issues and improved low speed hum.
18:28: 🚗 Review of a new car model, praising its efficiency and features compared to the previous model.
22:08: 🚗 Discussion on Amoda launching a car similar to Land Rover Defender, raising concerns about design infringement.
26:16: 🚗 Excitement over new EV purchase, seeking validation on range, pressure from positive reviews.
30:22: 💡 Insights on installing a second wall charger for EV households and considerations for required permissions and electrical capacity.
ID3, Corsa, Mokka and Citroën E-C4.... are all stunningly great value second hand.... All under £15k when they were £35k to £40k new.
Tebay all the way
Thank you.
Tebay is definitely the best motorway services in the country, no doubt - but to be honest from the point of view of charging I quite like South Mimms on the M25. Telford isn’t terrible, either.
I have had my ID.3 for over 3 years and never lost a hub cap even without cable ties. 🤷♂️
My biggest disappointment with the Cyberster is that it's too fast. I'd really like something with the performance and handling of a an MX-5 that is big enough inside for someone who is 6'2", the Mazda isn't. Even 300hp is totally unusable where I live and just makes insurance.more expensive.
When the Cyberster was first launched the designer suggested they were working on multiple sports car design. I wouldn't be completely surprised if a lower spec model came along later.
I noticed that Motorway services are now quite good for the first time in 3 years I stopped on the M1 at Toddington as the Google maps in the car said there was 6 available from 12 and sure enough there where.
Finally getting somewhere with simple stops.
Also noticed that Tesla has opened up a lot more superchargers - but boy are they in hopeless places often with no drink or toilet. How silly. But the prices are great.
Update:
Today we saw the Citroën ë-C3 at the dealer. Way better than on paper.
We were impressed by the quality, and yes. . . . . . we bought our first EV, the ë-C3 Max version, 2-tone Black/White top.
Probably one of the first owners in Netherlands.
September/October delivery. 😁🎈🎉🥂
MG Cyberstar is a cracking looking car
Yeah, more electrifying fun 😁
Monday, we are going to the Citroen dealer and have a look at the first ë-C3 in the Netherlands.
That Cyberster will be the second 2-door cabrio EV, we know of that is for sale in the EU (usable 300km range).
Fiat 500E was the first (€38.000) and now a €55.000 MG.
Strange, 2-doors seem to be way more expansive than 4-doors. . . . . . does that fall under the meaning "less is more" ?
Your former colleague Tom Ford has driven and reviewed the Cyberster ( on Top Gear)
my dolphin bought in November has Linglong tyres, but I've not had any problems with them either
Incase it is interesting to anybody... Just got back from doing the north coast 500 in my model 3 LR RWD. 1050 miles in total and charging cost me less than £60 as charged overnight for free at a couple of places. Whoever says you can't roadtrip in an EV is talking rubbish! I'm sorry to say that the ChargePlace Scotland network is not to be relied upon though!
I used to have a car with hub caps, my mother had a number of cars with hub caps. All have a couple of cable ties holding each hub cap on. How can people not know to cable tie their hub caps on?
I was curious to see your reactions on that side of the pond to E'loon's stupid decision to fire the Supercharger team. Here… we're pissed. He has undermined other EV's commitment to transition to the NACS connectors. I swear to Gaia that it was out of petulant jealousy: the director of that team, Rebecca Tinucci, was honored by Time Magazine a couple of months ago as one of the "top 100 most influential climate leaders." His fragile ego just can't stand for someone else beside him to be in the media spotlight. What a toddler!
elon types need to create chaos. makes them feel big.
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Any news when updated Audi E-tron GT is coming out, Porsche Taycan got great updates but for me looks of Audi are much better 😊❤ keep up with great work
I think people forget at one point to travel a trivial journey you had to buy essence (petrol) at local chemists because there is petrol stations.
I think the Mini Aceman will do well and I believe it’s an EV only model. I never liked the 4 door stretched regular Mini. It just looks a bit wrong and the Countryman however, nice it drives, is just a little large. The Aceman I’d say hits the sweet spot, still recognisably a Mini but modernised and better proportioned as a 4 door with its crossover styling. Also big enough to be practical but not too big. I’m looking forward to Nicola’s take on how it drives?
Having my Tesla Model 3 RWD is fantastic compared to my Kia E Niro 4+ especially when thinking of all the bings and bongs. Tesla does not force this on to me and works in the back ground rather than shout at me all the time.
In reference to the Tesla super charger team, we do not know if this is one of many teams, which is what I suspect. Also, the Tesla Superchargers are now being used by other companies, so maybe they are putting more reliance on other companies to fit them. the super charger network seems to have a lot of options covered, but would love to see more and more.
Two home EV Charge Points!
That is a real status symbol, isn't it?
Tebay are opening one in Tatton.
I was disappointed with the Niro EV - found it too low. Preferred the Soul
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Mini Aceman looks meh and it's quite pricey, BUT the early reviews so far have shown decent interior quality and space for a ~4m car. Looking forward to the review!
Looking forward to the values of the Cyberster in 2 years. I can't see an MG holding its residual values
I wouldn't be so sure - the MG4 has better RVs than most of its rivals.
55 grand for an MG. Dream on. Even if you knocked off 20 grand you'll be hard pushed to sell a decent amount for profit.
Its 39k in China for AWD. Its not making MG money. Its a car made for brand awareness
Good afternoon
Clearly the future will hold great jobs in aftermarket companies being able to REMOVE all of the annoying bings and bongs! My 2022 Citroën E-C4 is OK..... speed indicators just flash and lane keep assist can switch off on a single button.
I wonder if someone will bring a reasonably priced electric van that can be turned into a camper. I think there might be at least one available as I write!!
Any idea where the Ora deal is from?
Pretty much anywhere! Have a look on the leasing page on Electrifying.com first.
The sad thing is that the Mini is no longer a mini. It’s now just another blinking BMW!!
BMW have expanded the brand into new larger models which was always the plan. Other brands have done same such as Fiat with it's 500 model.
My 1 month old Mini Countryman S E is longer than my 2023 Defender 90 and is almost as heavy too……….. BMW should have resurrected the old Austin Maxi name for it coz it sure isn’t mini
No Mike, it’s not always about the monthly’s. Stop presuming that everyone wants to lease a new car, some people don’t. Some people, like myself don’t feel the need to change every couple of years, we buy the right car and keep it longer. If we are being adult about green issues it makes far more sense to keep our cars longer, not change every 2 years and say, it’s an EV so that’s ok. Think about the environmental cost of producing and shipping the car, not to mention the natural resources that are involved.
I’m on the fence here. Yes we should all keep cars longer. However, if we’re in the fortunate position of being able to afford a new car every 2-3 years, then by buying a new car car, we’re putting our old, 2nd hand, more affordable car into the market place. That could prove to be greener than hanging on to a green car, and limiting the options to those on a tighter budget?
And stop all the SS & BiK subsidies for folk WFH, should only apply if you are doing 40k and actually need a vehicle for work; level the playing field and reduce the prices
Hi Dubster. It's not a presumption about the monthlies. More than 90% of new car sales are made on finance, so it's the vast majority.
Cupra Gaviscon?
Hopefully we’ll be able to stomach the price?😂
@markbennett6658 Very good!
Nicola, in the Dolphin we need to set you straight with how to easily turn off the bing bongs. You can turn off traffic sign recognition in two seconds like in this video. Since the last update (the one you now have) the Lane Keep Assist is much less aggressive so no need to turn that off. ua-cam.com/video/JiXh-9Pa4WM/v-deo.htmlsi=HRx5XEPDCzkEnfTO Big fan of the podcast !.. from Melbourne.
Wookie likes the cyberster
Elon was basically the reason I sold my Tesla, great car but the company is too volatile for me, every week it’s in the news. Gets boring after a while.
What holds me back from Tesla is wondering when the next price cut will be or the next feature they delete to save costs.
Robots
Renault Megane got shorter
Please buy Tom a new webcam!
Every review I watch seems to comment on bings and bongs. Is the increase in cars making noises to warn everyone about possible issues down to manufacturers being petrified about being sued if someone has an accident? Personally I would turn them all off as driving responsibly is my responsibility and not the cars? Stop imposing things on us or at least have a way to turn them off permanently, unless we decide to have them turned on!
Why do car journalists persist in using Apple Carplay or Android Auto in preference to the embedded software? We want a proper review of the car including a full analysis of the installed software. I keep hearing cursory reviews of the Kia/Hyundai software saying that it cannot do this or that when I know for a fact that it can. Then you realise that the journo has been using Apple or Android for 95% of the review.
Probably because they just works
Hi Nigel. I've owned an IONIQ 5 for 2 years and the native software for navigation is awful. Yes, it works and gets you from A to B, but the live traffic, ETAs and user interface of Google Maps and Apple Maps is so much better. I also listen to my music and podcasts via my phone apps, so it stays connected all the time. Mike
Those MGs are quite attractive cars to look at, but they don’t attract me. The problem is that MG is an early classic name that was taken over by the Chinese!!
Technically MG was sold to the Chinese, by a consortium whose sole purpose was to make money. It's not like MG products were any good when under Western ownership, I've had 3 MG badged vehicles, and while they have character, they were a far cry from a quality product. The current range of Chinese MGs are miles ahead in finish and reliability compared to when it was under its original ownership
SAIC, MG's owner are using the British history of MG brand to sell and market their cars globally This is same as what BMW are doing with the Mini brand. I'm sure if SAIC had Lancia or Alfa Romeo as one of their brands, they'd use the Italian history of the brand. The history of a brand can be a strong selling point
Any chance you could get Tom a better camera or computer please? The jerky video with constant jumping is so distracting, makes an otherwise quality podcast difficult to watch.
Have your dreams been built? Mine have but not by Build Your Dreams!! It’s good looking for a Chinese car, but they don’t make campers!!
The Tesla Team have a lot going on and not just cars vans
Mini is owned by VW
No, BMW
If you don’t know MINI is owned by BMW when your saying VW then you obviously don’t have a clue about Car brands 😂 Here that may be a blessing but I’m not going to pay you any attention.
@@SWR112Why so hostile?
Ev is a gimmick , you can only use 60% of the battery for usage because ev manufacturers advised not to charge ev over 80% and not let it go below 20% to avoid battery damage, reson why ev prices keep going down faster because no poor person is buying it in used ev market, poor fear the huge battery fail costs, charging and range anxiety and inconvenient and winter huge range lost and freezing cold, most tesla ev battery has failed, replaced 3 times within reaching 100k miles
This is not the YT Channel you are looking for. You want to watch The Mac2@ or Gimp Buys Cars.
An ICE dinosaur spewing complete garbage
"most tesla ev battery has failed" Do you have a source for that stat?