broncos guru, great video, i just saw a bonehead clip on NBC news....2 carnival ships grazing each other in Mexico......don’t those guys know how to drive in reverse......?? The one ship ended up having some deck lounge chairs and glass on their bow!!
Thanks for the #1 I'm going to continue working on it to prove the reliability aspect and show that the stock LU is fine to all the people saying 'SpOrTmAsTeR'
broncos guru hay i thist wont 2 say your video rocks about out board motors ;my nommer 1 motor is murcury my nommer 2 motor i like is suzuki and my nommer 3 motor is yamaha i hope you like my msg keep on makeing video you did grate
YA MEAN Suzuki's version of a mechanical nightmare, that even yamaha tried and dropped? THAT ONE? HAHAHA You're wrong. there is NO best. They all SUCK, it's just to what degree do they SUCK? That's a video. But ya better have the expertise and time on the water to back it all up. But, I know the title and video was just 💲''click bait'💲'. So apology accepted...sort of.
All I can say is, I've owned a few brands but the 2011 big block Suzuki DF150 I have now that's approaching 1000 hrs with essentially zero repairs has been by far the most reliable and strongest engine for its size I've ever had. A real beast.
Mike Castellon no sir, I am freelance these days and no longer do engine repairs except for my personal stuff! And in case I misinterpreted you, I do feel they all build a pretty good engine these days. Although I prefer the old carbureted 2strokes for the power and simplicity.
I agree with Doug. Having an inboard myself I find it to be a huge waste of boat space. I need to replace my starter and master starter solenoid but can’t do it due to space issues ... it hangs underneath the engine down in the bilge and I can’t find the space to take it off and replace it
I still love the sound of a supercharged BBC with captain's call. The new outboards are impressive. Hydraulic jack plates allow to dial your boat, engine combination perfectly. I also think that vanity plays the multi outboard trend. HP and number of engines are on full display.
I got an 80's model 70 hp Evinrude that sat up for 14 years. Fresh gas, and bam....Runs like a Howard Miller clock. I just bought a 2020 Yamaha 15 for my puddle jumper, I like it but those 4 stroke engines leave alot to be desired for, they just don't have the punch a two stroke does. Lastly, if anyone is interested in learning how to work on an outboard, get a Mercury. I've had a couple of those over the years and they broke down every season. Next time you're at a Marina, if you can see in the shop, that's what you will see, those black engines. Hardly any grey or white.
4200 on mine. The last one only lasted 3300 because it was abused to hell and back. The abuse that puppy took while never leaving us stranded sold me. She was still running with cylinders at like 20-40 psi.
Yeah I also got a 2007 150 Yamaha on my lobster boat. No joke, I have 20,000 hours on it and it still works great. The cowling May have no paint left but aside from parts replacement that you would expect to one of that age (EFI injector etc) it’s been great. It still starts up in the winter great. I recently was out lobstering in -5 degree Fahrenheit and the motor hadn’t started for two day’s, which is rare since i lobster 6 days a week. While you could certainly tell that it was cold (motor took about 10 seconds to start and didn’t piss water for about 5 min because the indicator stream was plugged) it started up. My father has a 2014 mercury 250 sea pro on his boat and his wouldn’t start and he was unable to go out.
For what it’s worth I have a 1990 Yamaha 200 two stroke and have no clue what the hours are but man that thing won’t die. I’ve had to replace the shift shaft and the steering bracket which was a pain in the ass. But by far the most reliable motor I’ve ever had.
Nice cop out video. Not only with the number one pick, but placing others with what you saw at a Florida boat show. Then again watching a video on outboards from a Yamaha jetboat owner not surprised.
Not only R U the best UA-cam announcer I’ve ever heard,you also rank right up there with the top 5 stand-up comedians as well.Lol,keep the quick whit & perfectly placed sarcasm as well.Kudos to my brotha from anotha mutha with attitude .......
We use Evinrude 200 HO and 250s on 15 of our 17 RHIBs and I can attest to their reliability. But they do not like to idle for any prolonged period of time and unfortunately, the nature of our work requires us to sit on station for several hours at a time. Every once in a while we have to take them out and open them up to burn out the built up carbon. The Suzuki 250s are great engines (so dang quiet too) but they are slower than the Evinrudes by about 5 knots because they are 3 bladed props versus 4 on the Evins. Plus the throttle setup doesn’t allow us to sync the motors and use one throttle to control both engines which kinda sucks at high speeds.
I once mounted 3 Honda BF15s on an 18 foot aluminum Gregor Sea Hawk in 1987 years before their first BF45 3 cylinder :-) Also, American Honda's Marine division built a turbo BF90 in 1996 for testing.
Great video. My fave is Johnson I know they ate gone but I still run a 1989 90hp 2stroke on my 19 foot Mako. The little outboard i used on the lake when I was a kid was a Johnson 5.5 HP or he Evenrude 6HP. Those were late 50's motors in the mid 80's. As A teen my buddy had a Johnson 65HP Stinger on his Boston Whaler. These were are great motors so sad to see these brands go.
If i have a choice I would use yamaha all day. I would have put one on my current boat but couldn't swing it finacially at the time. Instead I ended up with a mercury branded tohatsu. Its an alright motor once i solved all it's issues...leaked gas into the sump through a bad lp fuel pump and leaked oil from the block due to lack of thread sealant on the oil pressure sensor and top oil gallery plug..left an oil slick everywhere i went.. This motor is my 1st four stroke and it really made me miss my 2 stroke yamaha.
Maybe I'm just biased but I spent 10 years in Alaska and I must say I trust Honda hands down even now that I have moved back to Oregon and own a 24ft reinell cabin boat. I'm getting ready to rip out the I/O and put a 250hp Honda on it there light but got the horse power and there quiet that I like.
Judging by all the dislikes on this video you have to remember what one person looks for in a outboard is going to be different from the next person. One person might just look at reliability and another might be looking for power, while others want a little of both... see what i'm getting at? Bronco even said in the beginning that this is his list and will not get technical at all. lol, I didn't agree with this list either but still gave it a thumbs up!
Yep my little fishing boat passed onto me from my dad has a Johnson two stroke I’m forty we bought the boat when I was eight and if was fifteen years old then it fires up every spring had spark plugs and that’s it
@jimmy hoffa To each their own I guess. As an outboard mechanic and fisherman I prefer mercury hands down. With more modern tech coming out and becoming common like all the new EFI motors they're a lot more comparable. I wouldn't personally trust a carburetored Yamaha outboard though
I bought a 60hp 4 years ago. I couldn’t be happier. I’m in harsh conditions duck hunting in very cold weather as well as pulling my grandkids on a tube and just a ton of fishing and boating around. Just turn the key at any time and it fires up immediately. No pumping the ball etc. Amazing on fuel as well, used to burn around 12 tanks a season, I’m down to 7, so nearly half the fuel. Other motor was a hard to start 2000 Merc 50hp. It’s a real shame Evenrude couldn’t keep the doors open.
I just mean that it’s probably literally in close to reverse order! Reliability is what matters to me. But that’s just me. Still “liked” the video though lol. Don’t stop making them man
When you watch the next Bass tournament, tell me what you see on the back of those bass boats. Most all the pros use Yamaha or Mercury’s. There’s a reason why they use them... reliability, performance and fuel efficient. There’s a outboard company on your list that’s not here anymore. BIG fish always eat little fish!
I got one of the first New Gen. Evinrude outboards, I was able to cut the HP /size in half, my boat goes 5 mph faster than my older motor, the response of this outboard to this very day, is unbelievable. Uses less fuel than previous engine. So I went from 300 HP, to 150 HP, and my boat goes faster, I have greater capacity, and range. Once this Evinrude dies, I will go to an inboard engine, as outboards cost way more than they are worth.
My 1988 evinrude 70hp 2 stroke ran like a beast until I sank it last year and it seized solid. 30 years of running, never rebuilt. They know 2 strokes. I also just bought a 25 mariner/Yamaha, with restrictions removed it's running 30hp, 25 years old, still runs sweeeeewt.
Personally I've had experience with Mercury, and Evinrude. My latest boat has a older Suzuki 2 stroke on the back of it. It was overhauled a few years ago, and should give me years of service. If I were to repower with a newer motor I'd probably go with Suzuki. Their 60hp 4 stroke is the lightest in it's class.
they tossed in a 10 year warranty on my evinrude etec 30 as a promo..been a fantastic motor..tons of power for my 14' princecraft aluminum..quiet and good gas mileage..i'm very happy
I'm a boat mechanic in Sweden. Now I'm about to translate an untranslatable joke. Of course I like Evinrude. That doesn't keep me from using a nickname for it. 🤪 The nickname is "Evig Rodd". The g is silent. "Evig" means eternal and "rodd" means rowing. It's approximately pronounced [evirod]. Eternal rowing. 😂
For me, I liked the listing as it introduced me to some history I did not know - Evinrude - and motors I didn't know existed - the 7 thing. The number one doesn't count as it doesn't exist really.
I don’t know much about Suzuki outboards but I rented a boat from a company and they still give the six year warranty on them. He said Yamaha wouldn’t warranty any motors on rental boats. Not bashing Yamahas btw, one of the best motors I ever had on a boat.
Although this is pretty far off for new motors older motors are way off.Mercury and evinrude are equal for older ones until you get to high hours in which like my grandfathers 1980 60hp merc has melted THROUGH a cylinder and needs a rebuild while my uncle's 70hp evinrude motor from 1976 with more hours still works like new. If buying an older outboard OMC is the way to go
all i do is work on these and i wholeheartedly agree! as long as it's taken care of properly, they last literally thousands of hours. sadly, too many dont have a clue how to read an owners manual about maintenance.
The captains of these shrimpin boats around here tow 18 ft Carolina Skiffs behind their shrimp boats to run the nets with. each of them are outfitted with 90 HP Yamahas. They're all sitting on well over 2,000 hours. I've got a 2003 15 HP Mercury on my RiverCraft with over 950 hours. If you take care of these things they will last for a long time.
@@melrose9252 but absolutely! Despite knowing that they're the exact same engine under the cowl 😄 I guess that's marketing psychology at its best. Though in my case it's the old "my Daddy had Johnson's, so it's the best" thing... Like Yamaha guys think it's better than Tohatsu. But after everything is said and done, I really do appreciate them, mostly for their simplicity. Putting a 2003 model 50hp back together in the moment, which will replace my 60 Yamaha
I remember my '79 big block evinrude 100s, those things rocked. Some heating issues later down the line, ended up burying it in 2004 for a busted axis.
I’m in the business and have been for 20 years and have many dealers that sell boats. So when it came to buying a new fishing boat I heard a lot of opinions. A few dealers insisted on Evinrude but that’s all they sold of course. This is how the list ended up. Note a big thing for me is reliability 1)Yamaha 2) Honda 3) Suzuki 4) Mercury 5) Evinrude. This list is what my big dealers all agreed on that sold most all these brands. I ended up putting a 90 tiller Yamaha sho on an alumacraft 185.
It shouldn’t be surprising, if u replaced Mercury with Harley your list would be the same for motorcycles too (for the most part). The Japanese just have better quality control and Yamaha and Honda are huge companies that can tap the very best engineers from other divisions when they need to.
I've had all (minus 7s) Suzuki is a distant #1 for mass production reliability. Yamaha to follow even though they have been terrible about taking care of their customers offering repairs for significant design flaws.
The #1 criteria for me is reliability and #2 is routine maintenance cost. Everything else is subservient. Nearly all of them are quite capable of excellent performance. It's not like "go forward, turn sometimes" is all that complicated. Making an outboard that is reliable IS.
Would you say this applies for smaller motors as well. I know it gets a little interesting under 10hp. For example any Mercury under 10hp is made by tohatsu, or how a Mercury 5hp is the motor as a 6hp with just different carb. I'm getting a solo skiff soon and will be looking for a 5hp, thinking a new Yamaha would be nice, but at the moment I have a 2004 4hp Johnson 4 stroke. According to the specs it has more power than a 5 go Mercury. I just gotta fix the gas leak. Anywho like I said just wondering if you have any thoughts on the smaller motors.
Tyrsa Fray sorry Tyrsa that you feel obligated to defend the POS engine you must have on your boat. Evinrude is garbage. I have a 300hp Yamaha four stroke on mine. Bulletproof. If I had an Evinrude it would kill my resale value for sure.
I’ve had Evinrude’s for years with zero problems and nothing but good experience with them and their reliability. You may be right on resales but I don’t buy them to sell. I simply use them. Cheers!
Honda on my pontoon and Merc on my bass boat. No problems out of either of them. Both are quiet 4 cyl, 4 stroke outboards. Had an Evinrude 85hp on a bass boat and ran the stew out of it for over 25 years including fresh and salt water, fishing, pulling skiers, etc. Never had any problems with it either.
@@raymondsolinas6976 : Yes there is. There are Old Johnson Outboards from back in the 30's 40's 50's all the way up to the 2000 models that are still in use Today. The production of the Johnson Outboards may have stopped but , The name and spirit lives on with the Evinrudes of Today through the company BRP !
@@johnelsonjr.6008 I'm kinda sure he was referring to new..I'm well aware of the evinrude/ BRP history. Johnson name unfortunately is history. I hope someday it comes back
Raymond Solinas hey Ray BRP owns Johnson and they shut down the last year was 2007 I think So unless someone buys the name from BRP no chance BRP put all there technologies into etec and then etec g2 all the integrated steering system that mercury and Suzuki and Yamaha have Evinrude developed it years ago it is a nice system I love my 08 300 etec I run the computer at tc-w3 oil setting that way don't have to worry about running lean on a injector and wiping out a cylinder xd 100 oil run position on computer is too lean for me like 1.5 ounces of oil to a gallon instead of like 3.0 ounces to gallon like I run JT 🇺🇸🐟🎣🌴⛱🛥😃😊🙏🏻🙏🏻
Good list, but I disaree with putting seven marine 2nd (technically first because honda turbo isn't a brand). Although having a huge engine with 627 horsepower, it is known for having some reliability issues and being costly to repairm
@@CaptMarkSVAlcina Will do and I usually try and recognize those who do alert me to stuff I posted a boneheaded boaters this morning and four 5 people who sent stuff in are mentioned in that video.
This dude definitely doesn't have much sea time under his belt. Etecs was the worst outboard to offshore maritime. Suzuki is the most reliable speaking as to 300hp class,then yamaha,then mercury and the rest follows. Sevens are for rich people,so let's not entertain them. I could go on and on....
My Suzuki has been a super reliable beast. ONLY issue to date has been neutral safety switches which we replaced both. Approaching 1000 hrs on our 2011 DF150
Boating in general is for rich people, anymore. I miss the 90's and early 2000's. I was just a kid then, but we had it made with a 175hp 15 foot 79 glastron. Bitch would do 70 on the water.
There's a reason why Mercury is the OEM motor of choice for most manufacturers. It's the best. I can't disagree with this list more. Every boat I've ever owned has had a Mercury and they've never let me down. It's true some of the early OptiMax motors had issues but everything since has been rock solid.
The reason there are so many OEM Mercurys is because they give boat builders deep discounts on them, and it's parent company Brunswick owns many boat brands such as Sea Ray, Bayliner, Crestliner, Harris Boats, and Boston Whaler.
I agree 100% we are oyster growers and use every brand outboards, lower units were a huge issue on Hondas, BRP are junk and expensive to fix, Mercs are now garbage and Yamahas has used us well but the Suzuki has held up the best for everyone here. This guy obviously has no clue about outboards.
wasup fool Yamaha is still the number one in our it’s for power and reliability and they’ve ranked number one forever, it’s the most bought outboard, but I agree this guy knows nothing about outboards
Well I was hoping that Mercury would be at the top of this lost, however I understand your reasoning for that. Soo my only question now is which is the best inboard engine's. My grandparents have an old 40ft boat made out of mahogany, it has to be at least 60 year's old now and it doesn't float anymore but it has a Mercury inboard v8 and my grandfather swears by it. Or at least he did before he passed away.
How is a 2 stork motor have no maintenance but a quad 2 stroke hours ago that’s all you did was work on them. Man life just gets better! 🍻and keep up the hard work!
What is innovative about Seven Marine? A GM smallblock on an huge outboard mid... I think there are different makes and models for different applications. Mercury for sport and race boats. Yamaha for medium center consoles. Seven Mariner for big center consoles. Honda for small boats. Suzuki for charter ribs. Evinrude (R.I.P.) for sporty ribs etc. I have for many years and still do run Mercury 2.5 liter two strokes (efi and dfi race models with short shaft and sportmaster lowers). They are for me the most fun and exiting engines even though they like the dinosaurs are extinct...
Suzuki is an excellent outboard and always has been. Bought a new 75hp in 96. Got rid of it in 2015. Only thing ever replaced was plugs and water pump. Yamaha is hands down the best you can get and is #1. Mercury is a good motor. But they overcomplicate the design. Maintenance and parts cost a lot more as well.
I have a 1992 Mercury Black Max 150 that will be 30 years old in April 2022. Been reliable for an old 2 stroke with heavy hours on it. I gotta hand it to Mercury, that was a well built engine.
I don't have 7 marine money either so my real number one for me was probably evinrude with Yamaha a close second since number one on the list is a unicorn.
That’s as close to my list as possible. I live in the North and not one fly-in fishing operator will run the black anchor ...Yamaha , Honda and Suzuki can take incredible abuse .
I grew up with evinrudes. Only thing my grandpa and dad uses. My dad has a 2005 evinrude on his boat that seems to be broke more than it runs. My gramps had a 1988 evinrude that lasted until 2016 although was constantly having to be worked on. Then he gave his boat to me and I replaced the engine with a used 1987 Yamaha. That Yamaha starts on the first crank every time and has not given me one problem since I've owned it. I'm now Yamaha for life and my dad is looking at replacing his with a Yamaha also.
My Mercury may be rated #5 but in head to head competition with the Turbo Honda my mercury made better coffee .. I started out life being a diehard johnson/Evinrude guy ...Then in 2007 where i lived most boat motor packages were Mercury ..So I bought a new 2006 Mercury in 2007 ..Still own it, as a matter of fact met my sister and her husband in Annapolis Md yesterday and took them out on the Bay ..I thought about upgrading to a higher HP but this Merc has run so sweet since 2007 i cant part with it So now i'm a johnson/evinrude / Mercury guy
Johnson last for over 20 years my last Johnson lasted for over 30 years my Johnson cranks right up from cold start on the first time plus it’s so easy to work on a Johnson outboard motor the only other motor I’d have besides this motor would have to be a evinrude only if I couldn’t get a hold of another Johnson
I almost agree with your list esepct #1 especially considering it is not a manufactured outboard but i would say #1 tohautsu (they do make alot of the companys 2.5 to 15 or 20 hp range outboards, #2 7 marine, #3 evinrude, #4 Yamaha #5 Suzuki #6 Honda #7 mercury (mecury cares to much about the number of outboards they can try to flood the market with so unfortunately there quality realy sucks). The outboard i want the most is evinrude
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I do apologize I meant to say Suzuki's first dual prop engine I do realize there are several other older outboard dual props.
broncos guru, great video, i just saw a bonehead clip on NBC news....2 carnival ships grazing each other in Mexico......don’t those guys know how to drive in reverse......?? The one ship ended up having some deck lounge chairs and glass on their bow!!
@@scotwoodz3787 LOL nice catch Scot Woodz I was just looking at it.
Thanks for the #1 I'm going to continue working on it to prove the reliability aspect and show that the stock LU is fine to all the people saying 'SpOrTmAsTeR'
broncos guru hay i thist wont 2 say your video rocks about out board motors ;my nommer 1 motor is murcury my nommer 2 motor i like is suzuki and my nommer 3 motor is yamaha i hope you like my msg keep on makeing video you did grate
YA MEAN Suzuki's version of a mechanical nightmare, that even yamaha tried and dropped? THAT ONE? HAHAHA You're wrong. there is NO best. They all SUCK, it's just to what degree do they SUCK? That's a video. But ya better have the expertise and time on the water to back it all up. But, I know the title and video was just 💲''click bait'💲'. So apology accepted...sort of.
The best outboard is the one that gets you back to shore😃
Carolina Tar Heel , true
Yep. You could have the lightest and most powerful outboard, but still be made terribly.
Rip evirude
The best outboard is your friends outboard.
That’s what I was thinking
All I can say is, I've owned a few brands but the 2011 big block Suzuki DF150 I have now that's approaching 1000 hrs with essentially zero repairs has been by far the most reliable and strongest engine for its size I've ever had. A real beast.
After 20 plus years in the industry, I will say that all the manufacturers are producing good reliable engines!
This is the truth you can't really go wrong with any of them anymore
Except for Evinrude...…. garbage
You have to say that
Mike Castellon no sir, I am freelance these days and no longer do engine repairs except for my personal stuff!
And in case I misinterpreted you, I do feel they all build a pretty good engine these days. Although I prefer the old carbureted 2strokes for the power and simplicity.
Also Parsun?
Someone needs to steal your drain plug for making this list😂😂
😂👆🏻
🤣 right about that. This guy doesn't have a clue
LOL
ya got that straight....this dude ain't no GURU, he's a click bait king, of BS.
How is mercury 5th
Sad about Evinrude :(
Yeah
Im still sad about the cr500 going away evinrude going away was like seeing the last of the bad ass 2 stroke era go away
At 62, I'm still enthralled with those old monstrous outboards of Johnson & Evinrude. Only Mercury was the sleek one.
When he put mercury at number four I loaded my shot gun with malicious intent
Ummm, that's #5 dude.
I would have put it at 7.
@@magnusatheos7301 alrt sir you sound like Cd
I like my mercury still run a 1978 200 series 20hp and she gose first pull every time
@@liamfrangos3277 What?
Judging by your list, I can tell you dont work in a marina
I agree with the list, coming from a jr. Mechanic
Whats that mean. Im also a marine mechanic
@black out yes
Always surprises me to see no Gen 2 ETecs at Haulover. Shame they're gone, seemed like fabulous, cutting edge, design and innovation.
JUNK
Imagine having a visible motor
-this message is brought to you by the inboard gang
Imagine having to lift the engine out to replace a $6 bearing...
Brought to you by the outboard gang.
I agree with Doug. Having an inboard myself I find it to be a huge waste of boat space. I need to replace my starter and master starter solenoid but can’t do it due to space issues ... it hangs underneath the engine down in the bilge and I can’t find the space to take it off and replace it
Mechanics hate you: from me and my fellow mechanics
Imagine needing to hide your engine.
I still love the sound of a supercharged BBC with captain's call. The new outboards are impressive. Hydraulic jack plates allow to dial your boat, engine combination perfectly. I also think that vanity plays the multi outboard trend. HP and number of engines are on full display.
I got an 80's model 70 hp Evinrude that sat up for 14 years. Fresh gas, and bam....Runs like a Howard Miller clock. I just bought a 2020 Yamaha 15 for my puddle jumper, I like it but those 4 stroke engines leave alot to be desired for, they just don't have the punch a two stroke does. Lastly, if anyone is interested in learning how to work on an outboard, get a Mercury. I've had a couple of those over the years and they broke down every season. Next time you're at a Marina, if you can see in the shop, that's what you will see, those black engines. Hardly any grey or white.
i have 3,574 hours on my 2007 yamaha 115. best outboard ever.
Parker Rupe it will run forever if you keep it maintained
If you take a displacement that should be producing 150+ hp and only make 115 of course it will last.
4200 on mine. The last one only lasted 3300 because it was abused to hell and back. The abuse that puppy took while never leaving us stranded sold me. She was still running with cylinders at like 20-40 psi.
Yeah I also got a 2007 150 Yamaha on my lobster boat. No joke, I have 20,000 hours on it and it still works great. The cowling May have no paint left but aside from parts replacement that you would expect to one of that age (EFI injector etc) it’s been great. It still starts up in the winter great. I recently was out lobstering in -5 degree Fahrenheit and the motor hadn’t started for two day’s, which is rare since i lobster 6 days a week. While you could certainly tell that it was cold (motor took about 10 seconds to start and didn’t piss water for about 5 min because the indicator stream was plugged) it started up. My father has a 2014 mercury 250 sea pro on his boat and his wouldn’t start and he was unable to go out.
For what it’s worth I have a 1990 Yamaha 200 two stroke and have no clue what the hours are but man that thing won’t die. I’ve had to replace the shift shaft and the steering bracket which was a pain in the ass. But by far the most reliable motor I’ve ever had.
Nice cop out video. Not only with the number one pick, but placing others with what you saw at a Florida boat show. Then again watching a video on outboards from a Yamaha jetboat owner not surprised.
My favorite outboard is the one on my boat. 👍
As long as it doesn't break down, down river.
Not only R U the best UA-cam announcer I’ve ever heard,you also rank right up there with the top 5 stand-up comedians as well.Lol,keep the quick whit & perfectly placed sarcasm as well.Kudos to my brotha from anotha mutha with attitude .......
Well it didn't come in first but I have and always will be a Mercury Man !
We use Evinrude 200 HO and 250s on 15 of our 17 RHIBs and I can attest to their reliability. But they do not like to idle for any prolonged period of time and unfortunately, the nature of our work requires us to sit on station for several hours at a time. Every once in a while we have to take them out and open them up to burn out the built up carbon. The Suzuki 250s are great engines (so dang quiet too) but they are slower than the Evinrudes by about 5 knots because they are 3 bladed props versus 4 on the Evins. Plus the throttle setup doesn’t allow us to sync the motors and use one throttle to control both engines which kinda sucks at high speeds.
That was 6 minutes of my life that I want back
Hi! Thanks for this video! My top 7 outboard brands are Elto, McCulloch, Martin, Scott Atwater, Yamato, Konig, Quincy Welding.
Very interesting. I bought a used 23' with twin 150HP E-tecs. Hadn't started them for five months; both rolled over twice and were singing.
HiTechDiver as the should be
Sad that they aren’t producing anymore E-Tecs, at least for now
Motors die if they dont get used, they die if they get used too much
Tohatsu is the must have motor in Japan! They just don't have a big market share here in the states....but they should!
I once mounted 3 Honda BF15s on an 18 foot aluminum Gregor Sea Hawk in 1987 years before their first BF45 3 cylinder :-) Also, American Honda's Marine division built a turbo BF90 in 1996 for testing.
Great video. My fave is Johnson I know they ate gone but I still run a 1989 90hp 2stroke on my 19 foot Mako. The little outboard i used on the lake when I was a kid was a Johnson 5.5 HP or he Evenrude 6HP. Those were late 50's motors in the mid 80's. As A teen my buddy had a Johnson 65HP Stinger on his Boston Whaler. These were are great motors so sad to see these brands go.
Who bought out OMC's parts warehouse?
If i have a choice I would use yamaha all day. I would have put one on my current boat but couldn't swing it finacially at the time. Instead I ended up with a mercury branded tohatsu. Its an alright motor once i solved all it's issues...leaked gas into the sump through a bad lp fuel pump and leaked oil from the block due to lack of thread sealant on the oil pressure sensor and top oil gallery plug..left an oil slick everywhere i went.. This motor is my 1st four stroke and it really made me miss my 2 stroke yamaha.
Maybe I'm just biased but I spent 10 years in Alaska and I must say I trust Honda hands down even now that I have moved back to Oregon and own a 24ft reinell cabin boat. I'm getting ready to rip out the I/O and put a 250hp Honda on it there light but got the horse power and there quiet that I like.
I would have put the last one as an honorable mention. But congratulations to them that was pretty cool.
Judging by all the dislikes on this video you have to remember what one person looks for in a outboard is going to be different from the next person. One person might just look at reliability and another might be looking for power, while others want a little of both... see what i'm getting at? Bronco even said in the beginning that this is his list and will not get technical at all. lol, I didn't agree with this list either but still gave it a thumbs up!
Gotta love #3! Favourite motors of all time!
I love my Johnson outboard. 45 yrs old and still starts on the 3rd pull after setting for 5 yrs.
Yep my little fishing boat passed onto me from my dad has a Johnson two stroke I’m forty we bought the boat when I was eight and if was fifteen years old then it fires up every spring had spark plugs and that’s it
My old 99 Johnson ocean pro has far surpassed the last mercury I had this past June went from Miami to bimini Bahamas and back
Growing up I had a 85 Johnson. It was unstoppable. Great engine
I have a 2000 225 Johnson Sea Horse. Pretty darn good MPG, 0 issues and runs like a top.
I hit that like button man. Please don’t steal my drain plug lol 😂. But great videos I enjoy watching them.
When my 197x johnson 20hp finally dies. I'll replace it with a yamaha. So I guess I'm going to die first.
Ok, so where do you buy this turbo Honda? Though this was a realistic clip .
Yamaha, all day long every day. #1. The rest can follow however they want to. My $$$ goes to Yamaha.
Yamaha's are junk my dude. I work on all kinds of boats and motors and Yamaha's always run the worst
@jimmy hoffa They're not bad motors but compared to a mercury they're junk
@jimmy hoffa To each their own I guess. As an outboard mechanic and fisherman I prefer mercury hands down. With more modern tech coming out and becoming common like all the new EFI motors they're a lot more comparable. I wouldn't personally trust a carburetored Yamaha outboard though
@jimmy hoffa The work boats around here, like crabbing, oyster, etc are all diesel powered and are keel driven
@jimmy hoffa I am partially biased though because I'm a certified mercury technician and dealer 😂
I bought a 60hp 4 years ago. I couldn’t be happier. I’m in harsh conditions duck hunting in very cold weather as well as pulling my grandkids on a tube and just a ton of fishing and boating around. Just turn the key at any time and it fires up immediately. No pumping the ball etc. Amazing on fuel as well, used to burn around 12 tanks a season, I’m down to 7, so nearly half the fuel. Other motor was a hard to start 2000 Merc 50hp. It’s a real shame Evenrude couldn’t keep the doors open.
This is the dumbest list I’ve ever seen lmao
I said upfront it wasn't going to be a technical list lol
I just mean that it’s probably literally in close to reverse order! Reliability is what matters to me. But that’s just me. Still “liked” the video though lol. Don’t stop making them man
@@allseriousness I figured you where just busting chops lol the list is for sure a little funky I still think the turbo honda is in it correct spot.
broncos guru oh yeah I do agree with you on that
What would your list be?
And where can I buy this turbo
Honda engine? I can’t find it anywhere.
When you watch the next Bass tournament, tell me what you see on the back of those bass boats. Most all the pros use Yamaha or Mercury’s. There’s a reason why they use them... reliability, performance and fuel efficient. There’s a outboard company on your list that’s not here anymore. BIG fish always eat little fish!
How did Tohatsu not make the list??
Evinrude,Yamaha,Mercury,Suzuki,Honda.But the commercial fisherman live by Suzuki.
riverakers not where I live. All I see in the FL panhandle is Yamaha and Merc.
Suzuki is definatly number 1!
joshua williams not realy, its Yamaha or mercury
And why...
@@richboutin4044 mercury is the best but it all depends on what you trust
i hope you plan on doing the inboard motor list next
I got one of the first New Gen. Evinrude outboards, I was able to cut the HP /size in half, my boat goes 5 mph faster than my older motor, the response of this outboard to this very day, is unbelievable. Uses less fuel than previous engine. So I went from 300 HP, to 150 HP, and my boat goes faster, I have greater capacity, and range. Once this Evinrude dies, I will go to an inboard engine, as outboards cost way more than they are worth.
I've heard similar stories everywhere I've been.
My 1988 evinrude 70hp 2 stroke ran like a beast until I sank it last year and it seized solid. 30 years of running, never rebuilt. They know 2 strokes. I also just bought a 25 mariner/Yamaha, with restrictions removed it's running 30hp, 25 years old, still runs sweeeeewt.
Personally I've had experience with Mercury, and Evinrude. My latest boat has a older Suzuki 2 stroke on the back of it. It was overhauled a few years ago, and should give me years of service. If I were to repower with a newer motor I'd probably go with Suzuki. Their 60hp 4 stroke is the lightest in it's class.
Just put a 50 Suzuki on one of the boats at my work. Upgraded from a 50 Yamaha. The difference is phenomenal
they tossed in a 10 year warranty on my evinrude etec 30 as a promo..been a fantastic motor..tons of power for my 14' princecraft aluminum..quiet and good gas mileage..i'm very happy
Imagine having a motor
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Of course I like Evinrude. That doesn't keep me from using a nickname for it. 🤪
The nickname is "Evig Rodd". The g is silent. "Evig" means eternal and "rodd" means rowing. It's approximately pronounced [evirod]. Eternal rowing. 😂
For me, I liked the listing as it introduced me to some history I did not know - Evinrude - and motors I didn't know existed - the 7 thing. The number one doesn't count as it doesn't exist really.
I don’t know much about Suzuki outboards but I rented a boat from a company and they still give the six year warranty on them. He said Yamaha wouldn’t warranty any motors on rental boats. Not bashing Yamahas btw, one of the best motors I ever had on a boat.
Although this is pretty far off for new motors older motors are way off.Mercury and evinrude are equal for older ones until you get to high hours in which like my grandfathers 1980 60hp merc has melted THROUGH a cylinder and needs a rebuild while my uncle's 70hp evinrude motor from 1976 with more hours still works like new. If buying an older outboard OMC is the way to go
all i do is work on these and i wholeheartedly agree! as long as it's taken care of properly, they last literally thousands of hours. sadly, too many dont have a clue how to read an owners manual about maintenance.
What about old mariners? They any good?
Yamaha.. The best outboards💪
Facts
Best of the best
No Mercury Verado is better but Yamaha is close second.
@@fireballbtw887 no one is using veraods tho my guy.
envirude have more power and less weight, why yamaha is the best??
Thanks for the best engines that make a good anchor
Yamaha is still number 1 in reliability and the most horsepower engines over every other outboard company
Not true my guy there are merc 450
Merc just came out with a 600HP V12
The captains of these shrimpin boats around here tow 18 ft Carolina Skiffs behind their shrimp boats to run the nets with. each of them are outfitted with 90 HP Yamahas. They're all sitting on well over 2,000 hours. I've got a 2003 15 HP Mercury on my RiverCraft with over 950 hours. If you take care of these things they will last for a long time.
Johnson, can't beat an old Johnson....
Denis Rasch I guess you think they are better than an old Evinrude?
@@melrose9252 but absolutely! Despite knowing that they're the exact same engine under the cowl 😄 I guess that's marketing psychology at its best. Though in my case it's the old "my Daddy had Johnson's, so it's the best" thing... Like Yamaha guys think it's better than Tohatsu. But after everything is said and done, I really do appreciate them, mostly for their simplicity. Putting a 2003 model 50hp back together in the moment, which will replace my 60 Yamaha
I remember my '79 big block evinrude 100s, those things rocked. Some heating issues later down the line, ended up burying it in 2004 for a busted axis.
A gt 300 is the best sounding outboard ever made
From my experience best to worst. Johnson. Mercury. Yamaha. Evinrude. ToHatsu. Honda. Parson. Suzuki. Etc>
Evinrude are the only one that kept the 2 stroke alive? What about the Optimax 175
I’m in the business and have been for 20 years and have many dealers that sell boats. So when it came to buying a new fishing boat I heard a lot of opinions. A few dealers insisted on Evinrude but that’s all they sold of course. This is how the list ended up. Note a big thing for me is reliability 1)Yamaha 2) Honda 3) Suzuki 4) Mercury 5) Evinrude. This list is what my big dealers all agreed on that sold most all these brands. I ended up putting a 90 tiller Yamaha sho on an alumacraft 185.
Yamaha all day ! Reliability is unmatched.
It shouldn’t be surprising, if u replaced Mercury with Harley your list would be the same for motorcycles too (for the most part). The Japanese just have better quality control and Yamaha and Honda are huge companies that can tap the very best engineers from other divisions when they need to.
Just saw this video for the first time. Strange how in less than two years #2 and #3 are out of business. Especially Evinrude.
sad :(
I've had all (minus 7s) Suzuki is a distant #1 for mass production reliability. Yamaha to follow even though they have been terrible about taking care of their customers offering repairs for significant design flaws.
I have heard the same thing about Yamaha customer service.
it like all the Yammy defenders havnt had to foot the bill yet for the corrosion issues in the '06 ish motors...
Buying Suzuki Engines is always a good decision. They are technical matured and extremly durable.
I like Evinrude. Can you still start a 115 or 150 two stroke with a rope? For me, that would be the clincher.
i don't recall OMC ever having a rope start v6. ever try to rope start a v6? not for the feint of heart lol
The #1 criteria for me is reliability and #2 is routine maintenance cost. Everything else is subservient. Nearly all of them are quite capable of excellent performance. It's not like "go forward, turn sometimes" is all that complicated. Making an outboard that is reliable IS.
For a given output, usually the quietest
If hydrofoil, the one with the most fins(as foils)
Ain't nuthin like a big Johnson lol
Capt. Irk Before or after Bankruptcy?
I have a massive Johnson 🤣🤣🤣
fastasfox Thats Funny.
My lady enjoys my big johnson too
Yup. 80's johnson v4 for the win!!
I'm running a 1988 yamaha 150 pro v. Had it since it was new and the only thing I have done to it was change the plugs. Best engine I have ever had.
Yamaha needs to bring back the 2 strokes, anyone agree?
It mixes rice better? Support American industry.
Yes
Would you say this applies for smaller motors as well. I know it gets a little interesting under 10hp. For example any Mercury under 10hp is made by tohatsu, or how a Mercury 5hp is the motor as a 6hp with just different carb. I'm getting a solo skiff soon and will be looking for a 5hp, thinking a new Yamaha would be nice, but at the moment I have a 2004 4hp Johnson 4 stroke. According to the specs it has more power than a 5 go Mercury. I just gotta fix the gas leak. Anywho like I said just wondering if you have any thoughts on the smaller motors.
Small motors I would go Honda probably but honestly they are all pretty reliable anymore.
When I saw Evinrude at #3 I stopped paying attention.
Yep they are the worst
brett run lol jealous
brett run obviously you never owned one
Tyrsa Fray sorry Tyrsa that you feel obligated to defend the POS engine you must have on your boat. Evinrude is garbage. I have a 300hp Yamaha four stroke on mine. Bulletproof. If I had an Evinrude it would kill my resale value for sure.
I’ve had Evinrude’s for years with zero problems and nothing but good experience with them and their reliability. You may be right on resales but I don’t buy them to sell. I simply use them. Cheers!
Whatever happened to Johnson? Growing up we had a 85 hp Johnson that ran like a champ.
Yamaha 4 stroke...full stop, end of discussion.
anton1949 Mercury verado nuff said
Evinrude thanks fellas.
Guys, 2 strokes are the best.
Honda on my pontoon and Merc on my bass boat. No problems out of either of them. Both are quiet 4 cyl, 4 stroke outboards. Had an Evinrude 85hp on a bass boat and ran the stew out of it for over 25 years including fresh and salt water, fishing, pulling skiers, etc. Never had any problems with it either.
Is evinrude the same as johnson?
No such thing as a johnson outboard anymore
@@raymondsolinas6976 : Yes there is. There are Old Johnson Outboards from back in the 30's 40's 50's all the way up to the 2000 models that are still in use Today. The production of the Johnson Outboards may have stopped but , The name and spirit lives on with the Evinrudes of Today through the company BRP !
@@johnelsonjr.6008 I'm kinda sure he was referring to new..I'm well aware of the evinrude/ BRP history. Johnson name unfortunately is history. I hope someday it comes back
Yes
Raymond Solinas hey Ray BRP owns Johnson and they shut down the last year was 2007 I think So unless someone buys the name from BRP no chance BRP put all there technologies into etec and then etec g2 all the integrated steering system that mercury and Suzuki and Yamaha have Evinrude developed it years ago it is a nice system I love my 08 300 etec I run the computer at tc-w3 oil setting that way don't have to worry about running lean on a injector and wiping out a cylinder xd 100 oil run position on computer is too lean for me like 1.5 ounces of oil to a gallon instead of like 3.0 ounces to gallon like I run JT 🇺🇸🐟🎣🌴⛱🛥😃😊🙏🏻🙏🏻
Good list, but I disaree with putting seven marine 2nd (technically first because honda turbo isn't a brand). Although having a huge engine with 627 horsepower, it is known for having some reliability issues and being costly to repairm
This list makes no sense to me.
What about my British Seagull Outboard Motor ?
I have never heard of that brand now I'm going to have to look them up!
broncos guru , let me know how you go and if you do something about it , it would be nice if you say something about who sent it to you.
@@CaptMarkSVAlcina Will do and I usually try and recognize those who do alert me to stuff I posted a boneheaded boaters this morning and four 5 people who sent stuff in are mentioned in that video.
broncos guru , so did you find out about the British Seagull Motor ?
This dude definitely doesn't have much sea time under his belt. Etecs was the worst outboard to offshore maritime. Suzuki is the most reliable speaking as to 300hp class,then yamaha,then mercury and the rest follows. Sevens are for rich people,so let's not entertain them. I could go on and on....
My Suzuki has been a super reliable beast. ONLY issue to date has been neutral safety switches which we replaced both. Approaching 1000 hrs on our 2011 DF150
I am also unimpressed with Etecs from reliability standpoint. Seen them break down too many times sorry Etec fans.
Boating in general is for rich people, anymore. I miss the 90's and early 2000's. I was just a kid then, but we had it made with a 175hp 15 foot 79 glastron. Bitch would do 70 on the water.
Have a 150 yamaha on a 21 foot rib it is now over 15 years old and very very reliable still hit 50 mph the other day
There's a reason why Mercury is the OEM motor of choice for most manufacturers. It's the best. I can't disagree with this list more. Every boat I've ever owned has had a Mercury and they've never let me down. It's true some of the early OptiMax motors had issues but everything since has been rock solid.
The reason there are so many OEM Mercurys is because they give boat builders deep discounts on them, and it's parent company Brunswick owns many boat brands such as Sea Ray, Bayliner, Crestliner, Harris Boats, and Boston Whaler.
Steve Petttyjohn OMC tried this with their junky Evinrudes but went bankrupt.
I’m getting a boat next summer and I’m probably going to get a 90hp Honda
Suzuki wins with the working boats and the guys who use there boats everyday, like myself.
Suzuki is a dam good motor!
joshua williams trash engine, Yamaha is the best most reliable and power.
@@gregmsnow you probaly dont even own a dam boat. You dam sure dont know shit about boat motors.
I agree 100% we are oyster growers and use every brand outboards, lower units were a huge issue on Hondas, BRP are junk and expensive to fix, Mercs are now garbage and Yamahas has used us well but the Suzuki has held up the best for everyone here. This guy obviously has no clue about outboards.
wasup fool Yamaha is still the number one in our it’s for power and reliability and they’ve ranked number one forever, it’s the most bought outboard, but I agree this guy knows nothing about outboards
Well I was hoping that Mercury would be at the top of this lost, however I understand your reasoning for that. Soo my only question now is which is the best inboard engine's. My grandparents have an old 40ft boat made out of mahogany, it has to be at least 60 year's old now and it doesn't float anymore but it has a Mercury inboard v8 and my grandfather swears by it. Or at least he did before he passed away.
Gas: yamaha
Diesel: Caterpillar
You can enjoy boating now!!
Replace cat with a good ole cummins, then you're in the ballpark 😆
How is a 2 stork motor have no maintenance but a quad 2 stroke hours ago that’s all you did was work on them. Man life just gets better! 🍻and keep up the hard work!
I still have my V6 Suzuki 150 2 stroke because I bought it as I didn't trust four strokes at that time.
Still rocking a 2000 fi dt140 it just wont die and pushes my cc 44mph
What is innovative about Seven Marine? A GM smallblock on an huge outboard mid... I think there are different makes and models for different applications. Mercury for sport and race boats. Yamaha for medium center consoles. Seven Mariner for big center consoles. Honda for small boats. Suzuki for charter ribs. Evinrude (R.I.P.) for sporty ribs etc.
I have for many years and still do run Mercury 2.5 liter two strokes (efi and dfi race models with short shaft and sportmaster lowers). They are for me the most fun and exiting engines even though they like the dinosaurs are extinct...
This was a waste.
Suzuki is an excellent outboard and always has been. Bought a new 75hp in 96. Got rid of it in 2015. Only thing ever replaced was plugs and water pump.
Yamaha is hands down the best you can get and is #1.
Mercury is a good motor. But they overcomplicate the design. Maintenance and parts cost a lot more as well.
Me dreaming of all of these when my outboard is a 1950 gale buccaneer 5hp that still runs 69 years later
Heck yeah!
I hear you with my 53 Johnson seahorse 7.5
I have a 1992 Mercury Black Max 150 that will be 30 years old in April 2022. Been reliable for an old 2 stroke with heavy hours on it. I gotta hand it to Mercury, that was a well built engine.
I love a Yamaha, Honda 2nd, Suzuki 3rd, Evinrude 4th and Merc can just stay in the shop. 7 marine is awesome but I don't have 7 marine money.
I don't have 7 marine money either so my real number one for me was probably evinrude with Yamaha a close second since number one on the list is a unicorn.
@John Higginbotham Now that is the real list lol, mercury's 👎👎👎 Yamaha 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
That’s as close to my list as possible. I live in the North and not one fly-in fishing operator will run the black anchor ...Yamaha , Honda and Suzuki can take incredible abuse .
@@duncandmcgrath6290 that's what my friend calls mercs lol
Duncan D McGrath He is probably too dumb to know that Merck’s are the best then Yamaha.
I grew up with evinrudes. Only thing my grandpa and dad uses. My dad has a 2005 evinrude on his boat that seems to be broke more than it runs. My gramps had a 1988 evinrude that lasted until 2016 although was constantly having to be worked on. Then he gave his boat to me and I replaced the engine with a used 1987 Yamaha. That Yamaha starts on the first crank every time and has not given me one problem since I've owned it. I'm now Yamaha for life and my dad is looking at replacing his with a Yamaha also.
I have an 87, evenrude 250, 2 stroke, and starting it up while Singing smoke on the water is a blast. Every time!
Back then evinrude and Johnson ruled the outboard nation
Plus, the engine is so loud you don’t have to be bothered by making conversation with others while on the water! lol
they didn't make a 250 in 87'. thats either a 200 or 225 2.7 looper
A Shore 225! For sure
My motor size got bigger on UA-cam! Hahaha
What movie is that with Chris Farley?
Mercury is only popular because it is owned by the Brunswick Corporation. So all the boat brands Brunswick owns gets them.
Jacob Allen Your comment exposes your ignorance and stupidity.
@@melrose9252 How so? Brunswick does own them and they slap them on Boston Whalers, Sea Ray, Bayliner, and all these www.brunswick.com/our-brands
1000%true
I’ve got a 1978 175hp Johnson Seahorse. Thing runs like a dream.
Man come on Tohatsu doesn’t make a top 7????
I totally agree-a great motor!
Tohatsu is a rebadged Honda.
@Sparky vlogs a friend of mine just put one on his Parker.
@Sparky vlogs he put a Tohastsu on his Parker boat. Saved thousands over the Honda and it's the same motor.
My Mercury may be rated #5 but in head to head competition with the Turbo Honda
my mercury made better coffee ..
I started out life being a diehard johnson/Evinrude guy ...Then in 2007 where i lived most boat motor packages
were Mercury ..So I bought a new 2006 Mercury in 2007 ..Still own it, as a matter of fact met my sister and her husband in Annapolis Md yesterday and took them out on the Bay ..I thought about upgrading to a higher HP but this Merc has run so sweet since 2007 i cant part with it
So now i'm a johnson/evinrude / Mercury guy
Johnson last for over 20 years my last Johnson lasted for over 30 years my Johnson cranks right up from cold start on the first time plus it’s so easy to work on a Johnson outboard motor the only other motor I’d have besides this motor would have to be a evinrude only if I couldn’t get a hold of another Johnson
a 20 year old johnson IS an evinrude.
I know I’m making a point that evinrude and Johnson are the best
@@dreamcatcherwolf6132 Just making sure you know. I have a 92 johnson 150 on my 21ft pontoon
I do
Travis Simpson Johnson’s were so good they went bankrupt.
I almost agree with your list esepct #1 especially considering it is not a manufactured outboard but i would say #1 tohautsu (they do make alot of the companys 2.5 to 15 or 20 hp range outboards, #2 7 marine, #3 evinrude, #4 Yamaha #5 Suzuki #6 Honda #7 mercury (mecury cares to much about the number of outboards they can try to flood the market with so unfortunately there quality realy sucks). The outboard i want the most is evinrude