I don't know what "nonbelief" is supposed to mean. I don't say this to dog you. It may be that the things you don't believe in are simply nonsensical. Of course, nobody should believe in nonsense.
@@numbersix8919 Can you tell me how its nonsensical? Simply from just a point of facts. Can you explain the historical and proven evidence of the 500 witnesses who saw Jesus, after he was crucified, and then 3 days later when he ascended to heaven? Again, this is a proven historical detail which has tried to be disproven but has failed every time.
@@wolfman9959 Nevertheless, it is possible to believe nonsense about anything, even Jesus Christ, as I'm sure you're well aware. But in the case of the "nonbeliever" or those people who claim to never have experienced the Divine, the problem may be much worse. So I'd tell any "non-believer" to carefully reflect on what it is they refuse to believe. Because they may cheating themselves of true doubt and faith equally. Well, there's more to be said, but that's my meaning of "nonsense."
I need to thank you. When my daughter was born, I stopped painting and, in many ways, limited my engagement with art. Your channel has inspired me to interact with the world in a way that I haven't for years.
It is the exact same with me. I think that watching channels like this can help ignite the artist within us again and it can also help us to yearn for the creation of our own methods of art. Thank you for the comment, it means alot to know that others are going through the same thing.
As someone who is religious, the concept that you describe, of having a greater connection through art is inspiring to me. That this connection and desire for said connection can be manifest in art is fascinating. Your videos have all been great to watch, but this one does strike a beautiful chord.
As a catholic, I found this video very beautiful, not because you praise God or something like that, but for the respect that you treat the subject. Keep up with the good work
I have a special connection to this movie by Tarkovski (in France, we write "Tarkovski" with an "i" at the end 😀) for a personal reason... In 1986, I had met in Firenze a Swedish girl whose first name was China... she was in Firenze because she was working there as assistant editor on a movie directed by Andrei Tarkovski that was called "The Sacrifice" 😀 ... I already knew Tarkovski as a cinematographer at the time, and when China had told me what she was doing in Firenze, I had answered "Lucky you, you are working with one of the greatest director in the world"... she was a bit surprised but very happy with my answer because she had been in Firenze for a few weeks already... and I was the first person she had met there who knew who Tarkovski was 😀... and my special connection to the movie is the fact that it's the only movie ever in my life about which I knew something "central" before it was even released 😀... and this something "central" was the important presence of the painting you're talking about in the video, "The Adoration of the Magi" by Leonardo Da Vinci 😀... At the time, I had been a bit surprised by the choice of a painting by Leonardo because I remembered "Andrei Roublev" (or "Roublov" 😀) and I definitely understood why Tarkovski loved this Russian painter... so I was surprised that he had not chosen a painting by the painter that I consider as an Italian "equivalency" of Roublev (and the painter I always visit when I go to Firenze 😀), the one that the Italian people call "Il Beato Angelico" 😀... which is to me a very accurate name for this tremendous artist like no other... except, maybe, Andrei Roublev 😀... Concerning the film, I think that Tarkovski, who knew he was about to die and that it was his last film, has made something that a very few directors have done... he has "looped" his whole cinematography... as an eternal return... The first sequence of the first film by Tarkovski is the image of a child lying at the feet of a tree... and the last sequence of the last film by Tarkovski is the image of a child lying at the feet of a tree... In the last film, the child ask a question : "What for ?"... Which, if I remember well, is the same metaphysical question asked at the end of "The Three Sisters" by Anton Tchekhov... whose influence on the film is, according to me, more important than the Da Vinci's influence... Far away, behind the tree, you can see water flowing... it's the water that the child will have to bring from far away to feed the tree that the father and the son have been planting together... with the hope that it will flourish someday... The film, like most of Tarkovski's films, is about the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit 😀, both in a religious understanding and perspective and in a personal human, artistic and familial understanding and perspective... In the Tarkovski family, the Holy Spirit lives through art and poetry, Andrei's father was a famous poet... and Andrei Tarkovski was a poet with images and sounds... In the first film, the child was Andrei... and the tree was both poetry (or art) and Andrei's father... In the last film, the child is Andrei's child... and the tree is both poetry (or art) and Andrei... and the mission of the son is to bring everyday water to the tree of poetry and art with the hope that someday it will flourish... it's a hard mission because the water is far away from the tree, Tarkovski knew it was very difficult to be a poet or an artist in our world... but this mission, this sacrifice, this constant attention is what is required for the tree to flourish... for the Holy Spirit to still live in this world... for us to be enlightened human beings and for art and poetry to, maybe someday, save the world. 😀
@@blurredlenzpictures3251 Yes, "ivan’s Childhood" starts with a child, Ivan, lying at the feet of a tree,,, "The Sacrifice" ends with a child lying at the feet of a tree... Tarkovski who knew he was about to die did loop his entire filmography on one of the most central theme of his whole filmography, the relation between the father and the son and the transmission between father an son, both on an personal human ground and on a spiritual religious ground... This theme appears in most of his movies, if not all. 🙂
Wow Canvas, I loved this video. Tarkovsky is probably my favourite film director and I didn't expected you making a video about him. You expressed so well what makes his movies special and the feelings can someone experience watching them. It would be great if you talk about more of his movies like: Andrei Rublev, Stalker or The Mirror.
I feel the same way about The Fast and The Furious franchise. It really gets me closer to god when I watch one of those movies... especially part 3. RIP Paul Walker
5:10 We are little Macaulay Culkin in Home Alone, eating ice cream watching violent movies dancing and jumping around an empty house after wishing that our parents disapear, without realizing what has been lost.
There's one way I explain this movie :- Tarkovsky is trying to say that the world is dying, humanity, morality, Religion is dying. The tree is a symbol of that. (Though I know that tarkovsky hated symbolism but despite knowing this fact, I cannot ignore this idea.) As a result of the selfishness and sins of the current Generation, there going to be a world war, or mass destruction, which will be harmful for our future generations as well. To save our future generations, we need to burn all that things which we have gathered through our sins and selfishness. The home is symbol of that filthy property. So to save his child, Alexander wills to sacrifice his pleasures and everything he has collected from his life. And because of his true will, god saves humanity from the world war. (The god inside us, which born after doing the sacrifice, preserves the world from destruction.) This is my Explanation of this movie. I don't claim to be hundred percent right, but this is what I have understood.
You can be spiritual without being religious. The 'mystical' is all of the intelligent processes constantly happening in nature. It's ineffably complex so throughout history, people had to make up symbols (pre-language) which became words which became concepts, which became plans, became reality in a way which can be tangibly experienced. Everyone is pointing to something similar, albeit through different lenses/words. I think just being in acknowledgement and awe of the complexity of organic existence and giving something back to it is about as 'spiritual' as it gets.
Tarkovsky actually shows that true spirituality is not necessarily religious. In Sacrifice, Alexander who admits that his relationship with God is "non-existent", sacrifices himself to save others. This is the most spiritual act. Tarkovsky himself said about his religiousness "it is not so straightforward, not so simple, and not so unambiguous." while his beliefs are rooted in Orthodox Christianity, his movie Andrey Rublev contains an apology of paganism and criticism of Christian dogmas, in Stalker there is a quotation from Tao Te Ching. Traces of his interest in Buddhism and Taoism could be seen in most of his works, including Sacrifice. But none of his movies is about religious spirituality. Tarkovsky's mission was to inspire spiritual growth in all of us.
In a medium dominated by images and movement, he chooses to load it with dialogue. He also brings out Christian malice, e.g. pagans in Rublev,the characters in Stalke. Dostoyévskiy, for example, had a burning flame, a deep humanity, Tarkovsky brings out a malice and a coldness. Also purely directorially, for example, Stalker has some borderline ridiculous directorial choices.Mirror is his best film and maybe Rublev without the pagan part.
Amazing as always my man. Great work. You should check Max Weber's view about the "spiritualism" and the neccesity of it. He uses sociology as a method to understand the importance of believe in "something".
First, I love all the videos you make, but the effort you put into this one in particular is just... wow! Second, thank you for speaking about your atheism with such candor. As a fellow atheist, I love seeing the representation. Thank you Sean!
I really like how you framed not being religious, but still craving spirituality. That's a really cool way of wording it and I totally agree. Beautiful video as always!
This UA-cam video from the channel, “Canvas”, creates a lasting emotional and intellectual bond through reasoned analysis with artistic spirituality, the essence of art itself.
He did not really speak about the film... but he did say a few things about himself and his experience of Tarkovski's films 😀... It would be interesting to know what you have to say about the film and the painting 😀... maybe would you enlighten everybody here by showing us what is not "pretentious gibberish" 😀... We're all waiting for your coming, teach us 😀...
@@claudemadrid4950 "He did not really speak about the film" So you're admitting the title of the video, "How An Unfinished Da Vinci Influenced Tarkovsky's Last Movie" is clickbait. I agree.
@@claudemadrid4950 "maybe would you enlighten everybody here by showing us what is not "pretentious gibberish" Let's start by defining pretentiousness: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." I believe that describes this video pretty well. Speaking in that bizarre, monotone voice like he's some kind of sage or guru. The way he frames the shot where he's sitting in the chair in a random hallway... It's almost a parody. I laughed out loud when I saw it. I guess that's all you have to do to trick idiots into thinking you're saying something of substance. He made zero real points.
I do understand your belief which is why I'll tell you this. You're not missing much. I tried to become an Atheist before but for some reason I keep finding reasons to believe in God. My family is catholic however, I do not think like them. I do not think God is forever kind. He is indeed loving but in a much logical way. Only that His logic is completely different from us. That's what I believe...also I don't think most of people's problems are from God, I think they make their own problems and God has nothing to do with that.
I’ve always wondered about the significance of the painting in the film. This was very insightful. I also appreciate your thoughts on the spiritual realm. Your honesty is very much appreciated.
Dude, I exist in your shoes--A pragmatic existential angst in a size 11. I live with the hope that there's more to life, even though... I've even gone as far as to consider Kubrick's AI hypothesis as a possible solution to an afterlife--mashed with the Kardashev scale, panspermia (intentional or incidental) and an intelligence that we just can't conceive. Maybe we are AI? It's a damning idea to think this is it, especially if you've ever been in love. I'll leave this unnecessarily long comment with a quote from Dylan Moran: "Anybody, who has totally given up on God and the Devil, has never been properly kissed or flown on RiotAir with a hangover. You can have God, but you've got to the leave the Devil to explain a few things." Love is the monkey wrench. Thank you for your hard work.
The sacrifice is my favourite film, I've seen it at least 6 times. Thanks for looking into Tarkovski and Leonardo da vinci . I love the description of the painting in the film. And I enjoyed your video, I'm glad you said his films aren't meant to be analysed. Tarkovski is as close as i get to spirituality there's something mystical in his films, the opposite of Hollywood.
The religion of the endless revelation, wherein there are countless apostles, prophets, and critics, the place where all gods are interred, the human religion of Art.
As a Traditional Catholic I see and understand the veiled message throughout his movies. The closest experience to Tarkovsky, to physical contact with the ineffable, is the sung Traditional Latin Mass
The thing is though is we have grown up in a materialistic culture, which produces atheism as a natural by-product in its citizens. Saying such and such is as close as I’ll ever get to spirituality is akin to saying watching professional athletes is as close as I’ll get to physical fitness as I’m never going to make any efforts in that direction. That’s true if one makes no efforts, but it’s not true if one does make efforts! As an alcoholic I know told me who was hopelessly lost in his addiction despite all his efforts and trauma, he decided as a non-believer to “fake it until he made it with Christ and prayer. . . . And then things started to change.
Because it was a Swedish production and a Swedish film, even if the painting has been filmed where it is, in Firenze, Italy... Ingmar Bergman was a big fan of Tarkovsky and he had invited Tarkovsky, who was in exile at the time, to make a film in Sweden with Swedish actors speaking Swedish... This is the reason why the audio is swedish 😀... But the film is very Russian because it is heavily influenced by Anton Tchekhov and because Tarkovsky was missing Russia very much ... and also his wife and son who were still in Russia for a while before they were finally authorized to join Tarkovsky in western Europe... it's, maybe, one of the reasons for the choice of the Da Vinci's painting... which is representing a mother with her child. 😀
Hey i love your content! theres way too less stuff like yours online but i would love to see some videos about "contemporay" art. I´m an art student and have learnd a lot about art before the 21th century but i crave for more content like yours on already legendary artworks since the 2000s. I know your awsome videos about important topics of our time i guess what i mean is that i would love to see your take on some less known artists and artworks. anyway i really apriciate your work. thank you
Leonardo Davinci = A legendary smartest being that help humanity advancement Ai art = A huge insult to humanity and avoid real human advancement for an unintelligent individual to collect more money whom doesn't care about anything but themselves
100% relateable. I grew up quite religious, really believing what I believed, but that changed as I became a teenager around 12, 13 years old. But like you said, i still craved that type of experience, the fear, the sacredness, the emotion you get from religion can be quite an experience which I have found in movies and other works of art. Movies for me personally just because they have a deeper impact on me. I don't think I really ever connected the two until now, I always knew that I loved movies for those experiences, but never thought of them in a similar religious sense. Great video.
In the future more people will have a connection with the spiritual, but they will call it secularism. Thanks for your video! Kind regards from Ásgeir in Iceland.
Brilliant approach and subject, but what won me over must be the fact that part of the analysis was shot in way that made a reference to one of Tarkovsky's interviews. The expression of the feelings and thoughts on the loss of faith was also very close to heart for me... Beside the already mentioned inspiration of art that his mother passed to him, there is a book about Orthodox aesthetic in Tarkovsky's work and how even the way that uses the source of light and the frame of the characters is influenced by the icons to give a holy essence. It's very interesting.
I quickly stopped this video and watched The Sacrifice straight through. Thank you! To all the "nonbelievers" (whatever that means) here, The Sacrifice offers you a conundrum. However, it is not intended to make a "believer" of you or anyone else. Another good movie on this theme is Bergman's Winter Light. The highest effect of these films is to shake "believers" out of their complacency and error, and return them to a truer relationship with ultimate questions, based on the reality of the human condition. The protagonists of both films -- an intellectual and a priest -- are doubtful enough, on sufficient enough grounds, to be rightly called atheists. Although these films could have the same effect on "nonbeliever" spirituality, after the reading the comments in section, I'm not terribly hopeful!
Have you ever thought about Arthur Russell's music and its relationship in film soundtracks such as 'Leave the Lights on' works to accent the mise-en-scene? Certainly we're beyond the stage of any discomfort at blending genres. Almost as a subtle force of transcendence.
This is such an alien viewpoint that it's honestly pretty fascinating. I have never believed that god is necessary to give life "meaning." Meaning is something that people ascribe things; something intrinsic, not extrinsic. If anything, it's people who give God meaning, for without people to define and interpret the divine, it may as well not exist.
Love your channel. Such great content. We create meaning. We create art. There are no gods, no masters. We are the creators, the pattern seekers. I choose optimism with the reality of nihilism. It is indescribably awesome to be alive, but we can attempt to convey the human experience through art. ❤🎭🎨🖼👨🎨
Watching this before I watch the restoration this evening and your points are so incredible. As someone who's grappled with religion on different levels your description of how these films make you feel 'spiritual' is spot on. Tarkovsky's films have always felt like religious experiences to me because of the way he presents the viewer with such visual and spoken depth. Bravo on your video, more people need to see this.
Art can approach the experience of faith through our connection with the divine within humanity - the ability of the artist to display his divine handiwork and our ability to apprehend it both speak to the imago dei - our creation in the image of God. The experience of the divine in art is, however, asymptotic to true faith and will not bring sustenance throughout one's life. Faith is the answer.
Nice video, it is interesting to link to other form of art. Where do you find your high definition painting? As for the spiritual part, I am also not very spiritual for the same reasons. Plus I find the organized religions too strict in their approach to the spiritual anyway, not to mention all the other issues related to them. I think spiritually is something very personal that you should built within and there is no right or wrong and questioning it is probably the best part.
Was an artist, always will be I guess, art like that of the Renaissance, though was never really religious, but then I lived in a new city for a bit, and made a discovery, and then realized there was more truth to it all than I thought, art just made us blind to how boring it all is, and what I found was joyful in confirming faith, but sad it the nature of what it really was all about. Wasn't even till then I knew it was really for me to see, and wouldn't mean as much if someone else said it first, as I'm part of it as it looks, and so begins my complicated path, and I only find more that fits it as i try to escape, and i did try to, now Ilive one the grounds where hopes and fears were all staged, and I'm starting to think I should have no fear of it, displite what it's all set up to lead too in the end. It dose still make me uncomfortable.
Imagine if an artist did the same painting five or six times, trying to do it exactly the same way and showing the stages until completion. That'd be awesome in my opinion
Thank you for bringing up this subject for today. The way you film it with your view of the world and from the opposite side of the planet gives me strange feeling and that's very cool. Tarkovsky was quite existentialist, to leave chasing and serving idea (of some goodness, can't say in particular) neglecting his own nesesities, is what makes him feel happy, free and a little bit bitter. If you can take the main motive of his every movie, that would be it, I think.
Everything is totally meaningless; we are merely the product of "what happens when what happened happens" (our planet forming around a mid-sized, yellow star, the moon forming, thus creating tides and all the other countless things that needed to happen for us to exist). However, one can still enjoy one's existence, feel joy, do good and even feel meaning, despite it ultimately not truly existing.
thank you for this beautiful video. I once heard someone say something to the effect of "Every craving in our lives - the desire for food, drink, pleasure, love, excitement, etc. - has the ability to be fulfilled, so why would we have in us the desire for a connection to the spiritual (something arguably greater than any other desire) as the one desire that cannot be fulfilled?" I urge you to not give up on those desires for spirituality. I can tell you from experience and historical evidence that there is a God who created us out of love and for the sole purpose of love. Keep up the good work❤
This channel is amazing, its a very interesting approach to art and its what got me into art history as a topic. Thank you, please continue your hard work!
Absolutes are for the dead. A famous contemporary philosopher of 80 once said of a bestselling book he had written @ 71, I did not know anything then. Sorry, I cannot remember his name, I saw this in a YT video of all things. Left a lasting impression, like many of your visual essays. You say " I will never... ", life will see...
Bravo! How would you answer the question that I've been mulling over: "Atheism is a religion"? It is an honest question. I think that Atheism requires belief, just as a more standard religion. Does this belief in a lack of God constitute a religion, or at least one aspect of it? Thank you for your outstanding work. I appreciate and listen to what you say. I have learned a lot even if we seemingly disagree a number of non-art related issues. Please continue.
No need to bring some "God" figure into it , follows the path of ordinary everyday supernatural , simple personal spirituality , the path of Shamans just stick to nature , magic , surrealism , thinking of the world in the mirror , including the mirrors you do not see often , just sometimes don't ask questions and the answers will come closer to you
If I might offer a suggestion that helped me to understand my place in the Universe: Life, is the great gift! It is a gift from the Universe itself. We Humans have an additional responsibility we have chosen to take along with that gift and that is an awareness of things beyond ourselves. No other creature, here on the Earth, has ever looked at the stars and knew what they were or asked itself why they were here. Because of this and other things, we are an essential part of the Universe. As far as we know, the Universe has no purpose beyond simply being, what purpose we have, we create. That is important! The most frightening thing a Human can experience is freedom, we are a troop animal, safe within a group that has leaders and a culture. Those who break these ties, become Hermits and Wanderers, become mad, cut off from comrades and comparisons to others, adrift and free. Such freedom/madness, forces us to seek inward and in that quest, we find something. Demons and Gods, Spirit and Soul, self and anti-self. We understand that everything is made of energy, the Universe was born of fire and it that fire still burns within all things, there are no places of absolute cold, no places where there is not energy in motion. In a sense, that is the essence of God, that fire, that energy, but I can't relate to energy, I am an Ape, so I create something I can relate to, so I am never alone, never totally free, always have another voice in my head that, sometimes, is the friend I need. I call it "The Goddess", because I like that image and that is important. You and I are important parts of the Universe because we exist, we are here, right now, and now is really all there ever is. God, the fantasy, the explanation for things, assures us that we are not free, we are not the wild beasts, there is somebody in charge and they know what they are doing! Is there an actual God? Of course! What is God? What do I need God to be? God is the restraint on our purposeless freedom, the chain that binds us, not so much like a slave, (Except many need to be slaves), but like an anchor to hold us from drifting totally away. You might say that Atheists have no such chain, but of course they do, they just don't call it God. Be it Intellectualism or Hedonism or Duty, call it what you may, it is a control, a Master, something you can worship by meaningful acts, like your Soulful searching in your little dark cave, noting what you do not have and do not feel, yet you search anyway. That is worship. Doubt is a powerful God. Doubt keeps us from charging on over the cliff , from becoming mindless and purposeless. Seek you comfort in what God you may find, in the dark places of your mind and there you will find the light you truly desire.
I'll be honest, I never felt anything at church. But one day, something brought me to Ayahuasca. It was then, when I met God. I saw my soul and the souls of those around me. 100% we have souls, God is real, and others gods and goddesses all interact with us all day every day. Our society is robbed of this, and it's a tragedy. But, I tell you now, God's love and light is a simple cup of liquid away, just need to take that red pill.
As a nonbeliever who often finds religious art sincerely moving, I appreciate how you articulate your position here.
I don't know what "nonbelief" is supposed to mean. I don't say this to dog you. It may be that the things you don't believe in are simply nonsensical. Of course, nobody should believe in nonsense.
@@numbersix8919 Can you tell me how its nonsensical? Simply from just a point of facts. Can you explain the historical and proven evidence of the 500 witnesses who saw Jesus, after he was crucified, and then 3 days later when he ascended to heaven? Again, this is a proven historical detail which has tried to be disproven but has failed every time.
@@wolfman9959 Nevertheless, it is possible to believe nonsense about anything, even Jesus Christ, as I'm sure you're well aware. But in the case of the "nonbeliever" or those people who claim to never have experienced the Divine, the problem may be much worse. So I'd tell any "non-believer" to carefully reflect on what it is they refuse to believe. Because they may cheating themselves of true doubt and faith equally.
Well, there's more to be said, but that's my meaning of "nonsense."
@@numbersix8919 What you just said is nonsense.
@@nak5eno616 Faith without doubt is hard to take seriously. Get it?
I need to thank you. When my daughter was born, I stopped painting and, in many ways, limited my engagement with art. Your channel has inspired me to interact with the world in a way that I haven't for years.
It is the exact same with me. I think that watching channels like this can help ignite the artist within us again and it can also help us to yearn for the creation of our own methods of art. Thank you for the comment, it means alot to know that others are going through the same thing.
god I love reading comments like this.
No good museums where you live?
@@nak5eno616 None in my immediate area. There are a few that are under an hour away, but securing a sitter can be tough.
@@punkrockbenny I'm sorry. Hopefully you'll get a chance to visit some good museums soon :)
As someone who is religious, the concept that you describe, of having a greater connection through art is inspiring to me. That this connection and desire for said connection can be manifest in art is fascinating.
Your videos have all been great to watch, but this one does strike a beautiful chord.
As a catholic, I found this video very beautiful, not because you praise God or something like that, but for the respect that you treat the subject. Keep up with the good work
I have a special connection to this movie by Tarkovski (in France, we write "Tarkovski" with an "i" at the end 😀) for a personal reason...
In 1986, I had met in Firenze a Swedish girl whose first name was China...
she was in Firenze because she was working there as assistant editor on a movie directed by Andrei Tarkovski that was called "The Sacrifice" 😀 ...
I already knew Tarkovski as a cinematographer at the time, and when China had told me what she was doing in Firenze,
I had answered "Lucky you, you are working with one of the greatest director in the world"...
she was a bit surprised but very happy with my answer because she had been in Firenze for a few weeks already...
and I was the first person she had met there who knew who Tarkovski was 😀...
and my special connection to the movie is the fact that it's the only movie ever in my life about which I knew something "central" before it was even released 😀...
and this something "central" was the important presence of the painting you're talking about in the video, "The Adoration of the Magi" by Leonardo Da Vinci 😀...
At the time, I had been a bit surprised by the choice of a painting by Leonardo
because I remembered "Andrei Roublev" (or "Roublov" 😀)
and I definitely understood why Tarkovski loved this Russian painter...
so I was surprised that he had not chosen a painting by the painter that I consider as an Italian "equivalency" of Roublev
(and the painter I always visit when I go to Firenze 😀),
the one that the Italian people call "Il Beato Angelico" 😀...
which is to me a very accurate name for this tremendous artist like no other...
except, maybe, Andrei Roublev 😀...
Concerning the film, I think that Tarkovski, who knew he was about to die and that it was his last film,
has made something that a very few directors have done...
he has "looped" his whole cinematography...
as an eternal return...
The first sequence of the first film by Tarkovski is the image of a child lying at the feet of a tree...
and the last sequence of the last film by Tarkovski is the image of a child lying at the feet of a tree...
In the last film, the child ask a question :
"What for ?"...
Which, if I remember well,
is the same metaphysical question asked at the end of "The Three Sisters" by Anton Tchekhov...
whose influence on the film is, according to me, more important than the Da Vinci's influence...
Far away, behind the tree, you can see water flowing...
it's the water that the child will have to bring from far away to feed the tree
that the father and the son have been planting together...
with the hope that it will flourish someday...
The film, like most of Tarkovski's films,
is about the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit 😀,
both in a religious understanding and perspective
and in a personal human, artistic and familial understanding and perspective...
In the Tarkovski family, the Holy Spirit lives through art and poetry,
Andrei's father was a famous poet...
and Andrei Tarkovski was a poet with images and sounds...
In the first film, the child was Andrei...
and the tree was both poetry (or art) and Andrei's father...
In the last film, the child is Andrei's child...
and the tree is both poetry (or art) and Andrei...
and the mission of the son is to bring everyday water to the tree of poetry and art
with the hope that someday it will flourish...
it's a hard mission because the water is far away from the tree,
Tarkovski knew it was very difficult to be a poet or an artist in our world...
but this mission, this sacrifice, this constant attention
is what is required for the tree to flourish...
for the Holy Spirit to still live in this world...
for us to be enlightened human beings
and for art and poetry to, maybe someday, save the world. 😀
beautifully explained 👏
@@schiomigadj Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your story!
Hi, I know this comment is from a year ago but I was wondering about the first film with the boy with the tree, do you mean Ivan's Childhood?
@@blurredlenzpictures3251 Yes, "ivan’s Childhood" starts with a child, Ivan, lying at the feet of a tree,,, "The Sacrifice" ends with a child lying at the feet of a tree... Tarkovski who knew he was about to die did loop his entire filmography on one of the most central theme of his whole filmography, the relation between the father and the son and the transmission between father an son, both on an personal human ground and on a spiritual religious ground... This theme appears in most of his movies, if not all. 🙂
Wow Canvas, I loved this video. Tarkovsky is probably my favourite film director and I didn't expected you making a video about him. You expressed so well what makes his movies special and the feelings can someone experience watching them. It would be great if you talk about more of his movies like: Andrei Rublev, Stalker or The Mirror.
I feel the same way about The Fast and The Furious franchise. It really gets me closer to god when I watch one of those movies... especially part 3. RIP Paul Walker
5:10 We are little Macaulay Culkin in Home Alone, eating ice cream watching violent movies dancing and jumping around an empty house after wishing that our parents disapear, without realizing what has been lost.
You make such high-quality content. I really enjoy and look forward to your videos. I hope more and more people keep finding your channel.
What's the piece of music playing trough the video?
There's one way I explain this movie :-
Tarkovsky is trying to say that the world is dying, humanity, morality, Religion is dying. The tree is a symbol of that. (Though I know that tarkovsky hated symbolism but despite knowing this fact, I cannot ignore this idea.)
As a result of the selfishness and sins of the current Generation, there going to be a world war, or mass destruction, which will be harmful for our future generations as well.
To save our future generations, we need to burn all that things which we have gathered through our sins and selfishness. The home is symbol of that filthy property. So to save his child, Alexander wills to sacrifice his pleasures and everything he has collected from his life. And because of his true will, god saves humanity from the world war. (The god inside us, which born after doing the sacrifice, preserves the world from destruction.)
This is my Explanation of this movie. I don't claim to be hundred percent right, but this is what I have understood.
You can be spiritual without being religious. The 'mystical' is all of the intelligent processes constantly happening in nature. It's ineffably complex so throughout history, people had to make up symbols (pre-language) which became words which became concepts, which became plans, became reality in a way which can be tangibly experienced. Everyone is pointing to something similar, albeit through different lenses/words. I think just being in acknowledgement and awe of the complexity of organic existence and giving something back to it is about as 'spiritual' as it gets.
Tarkovsky actually shows that true spirituality is not necessarily religious. In Sacrifice, Alexander who admits that his relationship with God is "non-existent", sacrifices himself to save others. This is the most spiritual act. Tarkovsky himself said about his religiousness "it is not so straightforward, not so simple, and not so unambiguous." while his beliefs are rooted in Orthodox Christianity, his movie Andrey Rublev contains an apology of paganism and criticism of Christian dogmas, in Stalker there is a quotation from Tao Te Ching. Traces of his interest in Buddhism and Taoism could be seen in most of his works, including Sacrifice. But none of his movies is about religious spirituality. Tarkovsky's mission was to inspire spiritual growth in all of us.
In a medium dominated by images and movement, he chooses to load it with dialogue. He also brings out Christian malice, e.g. pagans in Rublev,the characters in Stalke. Dostoyévskiy, for example, had a burning flame, a deep humanity, Tarkovsky brings out a malice and a coldness. Also purely directorially, for example, Stalker has some borderline ridiculous directorial choices.Mirror is his best film and maybe Rublev without the pagan part.
Amazing as always my man. Great work.
You should check Max Weber's view about the "spiritualism" and the neccesity of it. He uses sociology as a method to understand the importance of believe in "something".
First, I love all the videos you make, but the effort you put into this one in particular is just... wow! Second, thank you for speaking about your atheism with such candor. As a fellow atheist, I love seeing the representation. Thank you Sean!
In spite of having seen the file over a half dozen times, I still picked up several new insights from your film.
I really like how you framed not being religious, but still craving spirituality. That's a really cool way of wording it and I totally agree. Beautiful video as always!
It's cool because I'm the opposite... I am very religious but still crave spirituality.
i think the painting also serves to an important theme in the movie which is "epiphany"
Your channel is such a gem: thank you for bringing such interesting topics on UA-cam.
This UA-cam video from the channel, “Canvas”, creates a lasting emotional and intellectual bond through reasoned analysis with artistic spirituality, the essence of art itself.
What?
I'm so happy seeing one of the best UA-camrs talk about one of the best filmmakers! Now this is a spiritual experience!
Can you link me to their channel?
You didn't say anything. Pretentious gibberish.
He did not really speak about the film... but he did say a few things about himself and his experience of Tarkovski's films 😀... It would be interesting to know what you have to say about the film and the painting 😀... maybe would you enlighten everybody here by showing us what is not "pretentious gibberish" 😀... We're all waiting for your coming, teach us 😀...
@@claudemadrid4950 "He did not really speak about the film" So you're admitting the title of the video, "How An Unfinished Da Vinci Influenced Tarkovsky's Last Movie" is clickbait. I agree.
@@claudemadrid4950 "It would be interesting to know what you have to say about the film and the painting" They're both really good.
@@claudemadrid4950 "maybe would you enlighten everybody here by showing us what is not "pretentious gibberish" Let's start by defining pretentiousness: "attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed." I believe that describes this video pretty well. Speaking in that bizarre, monotone voice like he's some kind of sage or guru. The way he frames the shot where he's sitting in the chair in a random hallway... It's almost a parody. I laughed out loud when I saw it. I guess that's all you have to do to trick idiots into thinking you're saying something of substance. He made zero real points.
@@claudemadrid4950 "We're all waiting for your coming" PAUSE... lol... I bet you are buddy.
I do understand your belief which is why I'll tell you this. You're not missing much. I tried to become an Atheist before but for some reason I keep finding reasons to believe in God. My family is catholic however, I do not think like them. I do not think God is forever kind. He is indeed loving but in a much logical way. Only that His logic is completely different from us. That's what I believe...also I don't think most of people's problems are from God, I think they make their own problems and God has nothing to do with that.
I love how you framed yourself. 2:02 . very pleasing to the eye! :)
And a very interesting video! thank you :)
Yeah that corner is crazy and I want one!
I’ve always wondered about the significance of the painting in the film. This was very insightful. I also appreciate your thoughts on the spiritual realm. Your honesty is very much appreciated.
Dude, I exist in your shoes--A pragmatic existential angst in a size 11. I live with the hope that there's more to life, even though... I've even gone as far as to consider Kubrick's AI hypothesis as a possible solution to an afterlife--mashed with the Kardashev scale, panspermia (intentional or incidental) and an intelligence that we just can't conceive. Maybe we are AI? It's a damning idea to think this is it, especially if you've ever been in love. I'll leave this unnecessarily long comment with a quote from Dylan Moran: "Anybody, who has totally given up on God and the Devil, has never been properly kissed or flown on RiotAir with a hangover. You can have God, but you've got to the leave the Devil to explain a few things." Love is the monkey wrench. Thank you for your hard work.
this fits perfectly for where i am at in life
Tarkovsky ♥️
ps. Great quote: "The world may be meaningless. But that's hard to believe after watching Tarkovsky"
The sacrifice is my favourite film, I've seen it at least 6 times. Thanks for looking into Tarkovski and Leonardo da vinci . I love the description of the painting in the film. And I enjoyed your video, I'm glad you said his films aren't meant to be analysed. Tarkovski is as close as i get to spirituality there's something mystical in his films, the opposite of Hollywood.
The religion of the endless revelation, wherein there are countless apostles, prophets, and critics, the place where all gods are interred, the human religion of Art.
Beautyfull video.
As a Traditional Catholic I see and understand the veiled message throughout his movies. The closest experience to Tarkovsky, to physical contact with the ineffable, is the sung Traditional Latin Mass
The thing is though is we have grown up in a materialistic culture, which produces atheism as a natural by-product in its citizens. Saying such and such is as close as I’ll ever get to spirituality is akin to saying watching professional athletes is as close as I’ll get to physical fitness as I’m never going to make any efforts in that direction. That’s true if one makes no efforts, but it’s not true if one does make efforts! As an alcoholic I know told me who was hopelessly lost in his addiction despite all his efforts and trauma, he decided as a non-believer to “fake it until he made it with Christ and prayer. . . . And then things started to change.
just remember that, regarding spirituality or nearly any other matter, you do not know what you may know in the future ... ty
why has this russian movie got swedish audio 🤔
Because it was a Swedish production and a Swedish film, even if the painting has been filmed where it is, in Firenze, Italy... Ingmar Bergman was a big fan of Tarkovsky and he had invited Tarkovsky, who was in exile at the time, to make a film in Sweden with Swedish actors speaking Swedish... This is the reason why the audio is swedish 😀... But the film is very Russian because it is heavily influenced by Anton Tchekhov and because Tarkovsky was missing Russia very much ... and also his wife and son who were still in Russia for a while before they were finally authorized to join Tarkovsky in western Europe... it's, maybe, one of the reasons for the choice of the Da Vinci's painting... which is representing a mother with her child. 😀
@@claudemadrid4950 Cool thank you :)
i love ur content, u inspired me to start posting vids on my channel. seeing u post keeps me motivated to continue youtube as a fun hobby!
Hey i love your content! theres way too less stuff like yours online but i would love to see some videos about "contemporay" art. I´m an art student and have learnd a lot about art before the 21th century but i crave for more content like yours on already legendary artworks since the 2000s. I know your awsome videos about important topics of our time i guess what i mean is that i would love to see your take on some less known artists and artworks. anyway i really apriciate your work. thank you
Leonardo Davinci = A legendary smartest being that help humanity advancement
Ai art = A huge insult to humanity and avoid real human advancement for an unintelligent individual to collect more money whom doesn't care about anything but themselves
Art is essentially a religion, right?
Art is one of "the inscrutable ways of God" 😀... it's not the only way... but, yes, it's one of them. 😀
cant wait for AI to finish it.
They aren't three kings, they are three Zoroastrian Magus who traveled from Persia because of a prediction in their holy texts.
ive never been one to listen to them but if you made a podcast I would start in a heartbeat. your videos are seriously so high quality!!
100% relateable. I grew up quite religious, really believing what I believed, but that changed as I became a teenager around 12, 13 years old. But like you said, i still craved that type of experience, the fear, the sacredness, the emotion you get from religion can be quite an experience which I have found in movies and other works of art. Movies for me personally just because they have a deeper impact on me. I don't think I really ever connected the two until now, I always knew that I loved movies for those experiences, but never thought of them in a similar religious sense.
Great video.
You crave fear?
Thank YOU
The movie is literally about apocalypse which is sharin the same idea as a story of Genesis flood.
I’ve never seen this before. It’s incredible
I need to watch that movie now!
This video was actually pretty sad
In the future more people will have a connection with the spiritual, but they will call it secularism. Thanks for your video! Kind regards from Ásgeir in Iceland.
Brilliant approach and subject, but what won me over must be the fact that part of the analysis was shot in way that made a reference to one of Tarkovsky's interviews.
The expression of the feelings and thoughts on the loss of faith was also very close to heart for me...
Beside the already mentioned inspiration of art that his mother passed to him, there is a book about Orthodox aesthetic in Tarkovsky's work and how even the way that uses the source of light and the frame of the characters is influenced by the icons to give a holy essence. It's very interesting.
I quickly stopped this video and watched The Sacrifice straight through. Thank you!
To all the "nonbelievers" (whatever that means) here, The Sacrifice offers you a conundrum. However, it is not intended to make a "believer" of you or anyone else.
Another good movie on this theme is Bergman's Winter Light. The highest effect of these films is to shake "believers" out of their complacency and error, and return them to a truer relationship with ultimate questions, based on the reality of the human condition. The protagonists of both films -- an intellectual and a priest -- are doubtful enough, on sufficient enough grounds, to be rightly called atheists.
Although these films could have the same effect on "nonbeliever" spirituality, after the reading the comments in section, I'm not terribly hopeful!
Have you ever thought about Arthur Russell's music and its relationship in film soundtracks such as 'Leave the Lights on' works to accent the mise-en-scene? Certainly we're beyond the stage of any discomfort at blending genres. Almost as a subtle force of transcendence.
This is such an alien viewpoint that it's honestly pretty fascinating. I have never believed that god is necessary to give life "meaning." Meaning is something that people ascribe things; something intrinsic, not extrinsic. If anything, it's people who give God meaning, for without people to define and interpret the divine, it may as well not exist.
Love your channel. Such great content.
We create meaning. We create art. There are no gods, no masters. We are the creators, the pattern seekers. I choose optimism with the reality of nihilism. It is indescribably awesome to be alive, but we can attempt to convey the human experience through art. ❤🎭🎨🖼👨🎨
Watching this before I watch the restoration this evening and your points are so incredible. As someone who's grappled with religion on different levels your description of how these films make you feel 'spiritual' is spot on. Tarkovsky's films have always felt like religious experiences to me because of the way he presents the viewer with such visual and spoken depth. Bravo on your video, more people need to see this.
Very very Beautiful video
Art can approach the experience of faith through our connection with the divine within humanity - the ability of the artist to display his divine handiwork and our ability to apprehend it both speak to the imago dei - our creation in the image of God. The experience of the divine in art is, however, asymptotic to true faith and will not bring sustenance throughout one's life. Faith is the answer.
Nice video, it is interesting to link to other form of art.
Where do you find your high definition painting?
As for the spiritual part, I am also not very spiritual for the same reasons. Plus I find the organized religions too strict in their approach to the spiritual anyway, not to mention all the other issues related to them. I think spiritually is something very personal that you should built within and there is no right or wrong and questioning it is probably the best part.
Was an artist, always will be I guess, art like that of the Renaissance, though was never really religious, but then I lived in a new city for a bit, and made a discovery, and then realized there was more truth to it all than I thought, art just made us blind to how boring it all is, and what I found was joyful in confirming faith, but sad it the nature of what it really was all about. Wasn't even till then I knew it was really for me to see, and wouldn't mean as much if someone else said it first, as I'm part of it as it looks, and so begins my complicated path, and I only find more that fits it as i try to escape, and i did try to, now Ilive one the grounds where hopes and fears were all staged, and I'm starting to think I should have no fear of it, displite what it's all set up to lead too in the end. It dose still make me uncomfortable.
Hello! Are there any updates on the residency?
I relate on many levels with this video. Maybe "artheist" should be a word. (as in an "art theist" and not "art heist", of course)
Very good work... and thanks, (for the hard work), inside and out.
Our contributions are often unappreciated in the lifetime they are lived in.
Genius that transcends all time, a insight into the mind of a visionary.
Imagine if an artist did the same painting five or six times, trying to do it exactly the same way and showing the stages until completion. That'd be awesome in my opinion
can't wait to see where this work in progress goes
Where's the burning house?
At the end of the movie 😀... or almost 😀... because it's not really the last scene of the movie. 😀
Thank you for bringing up this subject for today. The way you film it with your view of the world and from the opposite side of the planet gives me strange feeling and that's very cool. Tarkovsky was quite existentialist, to leave chasing and serving idea (of some goodness, can't say in particular) neglecting his own nesesities, is what makes him feel happy, free and a little bit bitter. If you can take the main motive of his every movie, that would be it, I think.
What?
4:01 the presence and the way you say things are amazing. Ty for focusing on art and history
Some one has a little cruuuushhh... So cute.
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Everything is totally meaningless; we are merely the product of "what happens when what happened happens" (our planet forming around a mid-sized, yellow star, the moon forming, thus creating tides and all the other countless things that needed to happen for us to exist). However, one can still enjoy one's existence, feel joy, do good and even feel meaning, despite it ultimately not truly existing.
Great video ❤️
loved this.
thank you for this beautiful video. I once heard someone say something to the effect of "Every craving in our lives - the desire for food, drink, pleasure, love, excitement, etc. - has the ability to be fulfilled, so why would we have in us the desire for a connection to the spiritual (something arguably greater than any other desire) as the one desire that cannot be fulfilled?"
I urge you to not give up on those desires for spirituality. I can tell you from experience and historical evidence that there is a God who created us out of love and for the sole purpose of love. Keep up the good work❤
This channel is amazing, its a very interesting approach to art and its what got me into art history as a topic. Thank you, please continue your hard work!
Absolutes are for the dead. A famous contemporary philosopher of 80 once said of a bestselling book he had written @ 71, I did not know anything then. Sorry, I cannot remember his name, I saw this in a YT video of all things. Left a lasting impression, like many of your visual essays. You say " I will never... ", life will see...
Bravo! How would you answer the question that I've been mulling over: "Atheism is a religion"? It is an honest question. I think that Atheism requires belief, just as a more standard religion. Does this belief in a lack of God constitute a religion, or at least one aspect of it? Thank you for your outstanding work. I appreciate and listen to what you say. I have learned a lot even if we seemingly disagree a number of non-art related issues. Please continue.
No need to bring some "God" figure into it ,
follows the path of ordinary everyday supernatural , simple personal spirituality , the path of Shamans
just stick to nature , magic , surrealism , thinking of the world in the mirror , including the mirrors you do not see often , just sometimes
don't ask questions and the answers will come closer to you
Already this is beautiful unfinished, has anyone ever finished it?
"Da Vinci" *Leonardo
If I might offer a suggestion that helped me to understand my place in the Universe: Life, is the great gift! It is a gift from the Universe itself. We Humans have an additional responsibility we have chosen to take along with that gift and that is an awareness of things beyond ourselves. No other creature, here on the Earth, has ever looked at the stars and knew what they were or asked itself why they were here. Because of this and other things, we are an essential part of the Universe. As far as we know, the Universe has no purpose beyond simply being, what purpose we have, we create. That is important! The most frightening thing a Human can experience is freedom, we are a troop animal, safe within a group that has leaders and a culture. Those who break these ties, become Hermits and Wanderers, become mad, cut off from comrades and comparisons to others, adrift and free. Such freedom/madness, forces us to seek inward and in that quest, we find something. Demons and Gods, Spirit and Soul, self and anti-self.
We understand that everything is made of energy, the Universe was born of fire and it that fire still burns within all things, there are no places of absolute cold, no places where there is not energy in motion. In a sense, that is the essence of God, that fire, that energy, but I can't relate to energy, I am an Ape, so I create something I can relate to, so I am never alone, never totally free, always have another voice in my head that, sometimes, is the friend I need. I call it "The Goddess", because I like that image and that is important. You and I are important parts of the Universe because we exist, we are here, right now, and now is really all there ever is.
God, the fantasy, the explanation for things, assures us that we are not free, we are not the wild beasts, there is somebody in charge and they know what they are doing! Is there an actual God? Of course! What is God? What do I need God to be? God is the restraint on our purposeless freedom, the chain that binds us, not so much like a slave, (Except many need to be slaves), but like an anchor to hold us from drifting totally away. You might say that Atheists have no such chain, but of course they do, they just don't call it God. Be it Intellectualism or Hedonism or Duty, call it what you may, it is a control, a Master, something you can worship by meaningful acts, like your Soulful searching in your little dark cave, noting what you do not have and do not feel, yet you search anyway. That is worship. Doubt is a powerful God. Doubt keeps us from charging on over the cliff , from becoming mindless and purposeless.
Seek you comfort in what God you may find, in the dark places of your mind and there you will find the light you truly desire.
lol.
I'll be honest, I never felt anything at church. But one day, something brought me to Ayahuasca. It was then, when I met God. I saw my soul and the souls of those around me. 100% we have souls, God is real, and others gods and goddesses all interact with us all day every day. Our society is robbed of this, and it's a tragedy. But, I tell you now, God's love and light is a simple cup of liquid away, just need to take that red pill.
I get the point but if you feel this way study the Bible and become religious, life is much more enjoyable, good vid keep it up
Olá, estou adorando seu conteúdo! Sou um canal novo e preciso de ajuda com novos inscritos... vídeos todos os dias!
Obrigado desde já pela força!!!
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