Gifted for sure, a great musician and intellectual. However, correctly speaking multiple languages does not validate one's arguments, which needs to stay on its legs
Really? That all conductors but him are a bunch of know-nothings does not seem a very particularly deep revelation, just something a narcissist would say. I'm not denying his value, just scoffing at all those apparently agreeing he's the only one who has it
Beautiful. After hearing this man, my eyes are opened. I had no idea....no idea...how blind i was ..he enables us to hear as if for the first time truth. I am amazed by his work. Brilliant. Later, my mind may change. Butfor now, there will always be a soft spot in my heart for him. It doesn't really matter what conductors say their philosophy is. You will know it through their work. ......and he's RIGHT.
I loooove this amazing conductor orochestra ! I'm mesmerised by his knowledge of mastering all his people in the music team ! I love his moves to express notes of a particular instrument..I can listen Bolero again n again for hours to no end ! Im deeply impressed by his no.where.found.talent ! Thank for your inegalabile seconds of unique spell of your music !
@@ionutzamfir5794 Vanity isn't really that different from haughtiness. Defining other conductors ignorant does not really project the image of a truth seeker, more that of an egomaniac
when Sergiu Celibidache speaks .. at least we are front so someone who is not restraining his words. Of course Celibidache is right ! 100 % how many great conductors if we consider Celibidache's criterias ? less than 10 !
Very forthright and shocking interview! Marvelous to hear someone of his stature state his mind, and whatever the fallout---too bad. His opinion of musicians in Denmark is very low. Complacent, incompetent, or insolent players who make ignorant remarks to him. Amazing. His recording of the Ravel Concerto with Michelangeli and the LSO is at the pinnacle of achievement. Also available on youtube.
One can simultaneously acknowledge the depths of Celibidache's knowledge and ability while noting his arrogant lack of self-awareness. On a certain level, a conductor's primary function is to elicit a group's best effort; when this doesn't happen, it isn't always the conductor's fault, but a truly effective leader will have the humility to think first about what he/she might have done to bring about a better result. A conductor without an orchestra is a mute.
He seems to be incredibly self-aware. If he was not, then he wouldn't be a conductor. There is also a great modesty in this man, if you listen to some of his longer interviews. There is one one here, in French, but with English subtitles, in which his humility comes across very clearly. The man is overawed by the freedom that live music performances can engender. He is the conductor, not the driver, not the composer, not the music, not the occasion, and not the appreciative listener, all of which he views as being potentially far greater than he is. He is like the tutor, in the most basic meaning of the word. The tutor merely leads the student to the subject. The subject then has its effects upon the intelligent student. This is a reason why he dislikes recordings of himself in performance. A good live performance is always a much greater and liberating experience than a recording. He was really there to conduct the orchestra and the audience, reacting to the situation as it evolved, en route to that freedom. No two performances can be absolutely identical, for that reason, but a recording merely freezes that moment in time, being only a shadow of the performance in which he was only a conduit, and making him the central figure, much against his will.
Can you plz answer some of my questions about conducting since I want to know more about it. But can we talk somewhere else like discord or anything you prefer?
1: Are there many conductors in the world? Is their number over 100000? I dont see many probably because my school didn't offer music classes. But my friends and family members who took music classes learned about the piano and violin, so I was wondering how low the number of conductors in the world are. 2: What is the most difficult thing about being a conductor? Is it finding a job or practicing? Or maybe it's some other thing I didn't think about. 3: How do conductors practice? Do they practice by conducting an orchestra only? Is there no other way to practice? 4: Is the number of people aspiring to be conductors decreasing?
Raffaele I remember our lessons as well as your conducting. I recently went to lectures in Berkeley CA about Celibidache and was thinking of you. Mi dai un squillo.
Celibidache, in line to receive the baton from Furtwangler, was passed over in favor of Karajan. But Celibidache's depth of musicianship is exceptional. Engelbrecht is contentious, trying to be provocative, "interesting." Rude.
you didnt listen clearly then, he stated the ones he DOES know are mostly ignorant 0:50 shows you might be an ignorant too judging by that lack of attention not a single minute into the interview
Yeah, so, he knew a few... since he attended a concert now and then....uh? Guys, don't panic, with some exceptions, good conductors are quite isolated. They don't have time to see how others are doing things, nor are they too ready to learn from others. They might watch a performance or two, but their main business is spending time with the scores. (Today things look totally different, thanks to youtube). In my opinion, Celi is great at what he did, but as he had his own (fantastic) approach, he couldn't get too close into what other good conductors were doing. And generally speaking, don't expect conductors to appreciate one another too much :)
Celibidache should be asked WHY he thinks conductors are ignorants, WHY are incompetent? Talking about "static way" and "dynamic process" is a bit evasive. And he is very self-confident and even conceited person who not only knows better then others (you obviously have right to have your own view and believe) but sadly he despise some people too. Simultaneously his musical achievements are unquestionable.
Six thousand pupils is not six thousand musicians! If a pupil has natural 'Musicianship' he/she has the high potential to develop conscious understanding of musical law and become a 'Musician', not just a player! Six thousand curious people who 'Think' they want to be a conductor usually end up chasing something far less divine than true music. They are put off having to do some real work for a change! And one excuse for giving up is 'I don't understand what he/she is talking about, or I didn't realise you have to actually do some work for this, I thought it was free, not a dream! A real musician will follow a worthwhile path regardless of the years of suffering before them and not shy away they keep going. It's almost as if they are driven or compleled to never give up! A person is either awake or asleep! Learning technique is easy, it becomes purely automatic and repetative no real work is involved. Sleeping people belong to this bracket. One cannot 'learn' to be a musician. That is a gift bestowed at birth after having given sustained devoted effort in the past. There are skilled technicians and there are musicians. Techniqual skill does not produce a musician but a musician has all the techniqual skill neccesary to be a fine player - and a true musician!. Orchestras are made up of the vast majority of 'Players' and very rarely, with a lot of luck a musician or two. Celibidache was and still is a fine Musician. Here endeth the lesson.
Celibidache aveva un concetto della MUSICA troppo elevato per i comuni mortali. Egli deve essere studiato, approfondito, e solo allora potrà essere capito. L'orchestrale medio, non avrà mai questa mentalità, anzi, lo critica aspramente dicendo che è matto. Troppo comodo! Certo, occorre pensare, e pensare è fatica! Chi lo critica, si metta a studiare!!!!!!
I am a fan of Celibidache, but to say that all other conductors are ignorant while admitting that he does not attend concerts is a bit rich. Is he only saying this about the conductors he knows from first hand experience, viz. his students? Isn't that an indictment of his ability to teach?
@@dacianr.2289 musicians in your orchestra are not conductors, you're not even talking about the same thing as the people you're replying to. Do you know how to read?
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Gotta love the old European garde....zero fucks given..lol
So he's calling himself a poor teacher, since none of his students have even come close to showing the qualities that he desires? The interviewer nailed him, "but so you still go on teaching?" the only reason is clearly financial since his views are so fatalistic.
Actually I think that he meant that most conductors don't know the score (they are focussed on their gestures. Whereas he knew the function of every note in reaching a climax, or creating a certain sound)
@@johannesasfaw but is it true. or it he just arrogant. not everyone likes his conductiong.....i know there are a lot of poor conductors, but at his time there were also about 15 fine ones...
@@eytonshalom I think in the same way that someone who is not a good player might be (justifiably) insecure, he is justifiably arrogant. And his arrogance is not what makes him unique, many conductors (most) are quite arrogant. What makes him unique is how he can finish a Bruckner 4. And that has more to do with knowledge I think. Another factor is that compared to the other greats of the 20th century Celibidache is much more educated (check out his Wikipedia page compared to others). He studied for ages. For instance Toscanini and Karajan are much more "workers" than "academics" musically speaking if you look at their early life, while with Celi it's the opposite. It's so interesting to hear this reflected in their interpretations too. Maybe because of this I guess he feels the need to show he is better, his intellectual path adds to his arrogance. But for me it's justified you know An apt comparison might be a politician who says "feeling is all in politics" and Celibidache being like someone who studied the details of policy till he was 30 and having great results after that point because of a complex philosophy of how things should work. And then he feels the need to say all the others are stupid basically haha
As you can see from this person's eyes, it is unavoidable that he is too skeptical about the qualitative meaning and value of recording and playback hardware / software by SSL and Neumann's microphone, etc., where the advanced technology of the era has caught up with the art level. It was too dark. The only way to camouflage it is to bring up philosophical theory in front of the media. Especially for Karajan, who caught the trend at that time, the voltage of Ressentiment was always higher than his senior Furtwängler. He would have been content with a transient concert conductor who couldn't do opera, and would have had no choice but to be authoritative within that framework.
This seems to be an underlying and old, old theme... Is the conductor/ symphony relationship democratic? Not should be...is it? He says here, "I don't know what other conductors do." Different businesses, different cultural landscapes, different money changing hands, different power dynamics, ...case by case analysis, I'm sure, but I'm interested always in this theme. I'm fascinated with this specific relationship..and how it plays out in front of an audience. So many things happening when you go to a performance;)
OBVIOUSLY-Conductors are ..artists in their own right-? He is not going to talk up other conductors, what does he care? he. doesn't .care. It's His art he is passionate about. The interviewer stupidly kept trying for a different.answer. .....From.an.old. school. Romanian. Artist. Lol. Interviewers are also ignorant , serg.
Can someone please direct me to a video where Celibidache has something positive (and humble) to say about anything? He was a musical genius but he doesn’t seem very nice to be around. In fact he seems insufferable
No soporto a los cretinos y arrogantes, a los que se creen en posesión de la verdad absoluta y que están por encima de los demás y este tipo tenía todo eso por toneladas. Para mí la grandeza de una persona está principalmente en su humildad y, para mí, este señor está muy lejos de ella.
Having standards is not toxic. Having high expectations is also not toxic. Also Most agree that the modern welfare state is The running joke. So your argument is invalid.
Think about this. : Herbert von Karajan (1908-1989) This larger-than-life character reigned at the helm of the Berlin Philharmonic for 35 years. He was the first classical megastar of the recording era, selling some 200 million records. ------ Celibidache - never sold a record, never approved officially of his work to be recorded. That's why in every recording of his work is like ALL the public is coughing. :( One guy is "megastar of the recording era, selling some 200 million records.", the other guy sells none, because he didn't want to. I believe this shows what a modest person Celibidache was. His bitterness is because he was truly unsatisfied about the environment. A truly perfectionist. A REAL perfectionist.
@@ladyhawkke7002 I never liked him, especially as he got older. His interpretations are eccentric, to put it mildly. A very capable artist, of course, but totally self-absorbed.
Celibidache avrebbe dovuto dedicarsi all'insegnamento universitario (aveva tre lauree, in matematica, in filosofia e in musicologia) e lasciar perdere il FAR MUSICA, che è cosa ben diversa dalla musicologia............................
that guy is realy ignorant . BTW listen ones to tis recordings without looking at him and you will hear mostly static notes . for music i advice you claudio abbado . celevidache had good thecnic and personality but missed the most important to be able to make music with it .....and OMG was he frustraties and full of hate ..for example towards the great Karajan who celebidache described also as a bad conductor by calling him Coca Cola conductor ...
The man is gifted. He is able to formulate deep thoughts without errors in five languages. That speaks for him and his arguments.
Absolutely!
I have read somewhere, that he could actually speak more than ten languages.
He also has advanced degrees in a few different fields. He is a highly intellectually-trained man.
Not only intellectual, but very advanced in the Yoga and Zen fields.
Gifted for sure, a great musician and intellectual. However, correctly speaking multiple languages does not validate one's arguments, which needs to stay on its legs
He takes pride in his work and expects the same of others. This is exemplary conduct.
An extremely intelligent person.
Increasingly rare on planet earth! I think they are all hiding...
@@PK-re3lu Not hiding; these people are ignored from the public, from the media, from the big business and money world.
he was bluntly blunt and amazingly and absolutely RIGHT about just about every thing
Really? That all conductors but him are a bunch of know-nothings does not seem a very particularly deep revelation, just something a narcissist would say. I'm not denying his value, just scoffing at all those apparently agreeing he's the only one who has it
Beautiful. After hearing this man, my eyes are opened. I had no idea....no idea...how blind i was ..he enables us to hear as if for the first time truth. I am amazed by his work. Brilliant. Later, my mind may change. Butfor now, there will always be a soft spot in my heart for him. It doesn't really matter what conductors say their philosophy is. You will know it through their work.
......and he's RIGHT.
i love him, he's so brutally honest.
I loooove this amazing conductor orochestra ! I'm mesmerised by his knowledge of mastering all his people in the music team !
I love his moves to express notes of a particular instrument..I can listen Bolero again n again for hours to no end ! Im deeply impressed by his no.where.found.talent ! Thank for your inegalabile seconds of unique spell of your music !
one of the greatest interviews ever heard
Absolutely! No BS with Celibidache. He always meant business. Results, astounding.
Greatest conductor ever!
@@ladyhawkke7002 probably .. you are right
Speaks his mind; a top man
Sounds like mourinho
the king speaks again. the best musician of the 20th century
not as famous as Karajan or Abbado though.
@@herr_crustovsky fame u say? there s no place for vanity in music.Celi didn t seek fame. he seeked truth
@@ionutzamfir5794 Vanity isn't really that different from haughtiness. Defining other conductors ignorant does not really project the image of a truth seeker, more that of an egomaniac
@@italnsd Long Live Celibidache s legend. the 9nly conductor ever to reach the 4th octave dimension.
@@ionutzamfir5794 The glaze is crazy, you also didn't answer his question.
Brilliant!!!
I am a conductor. I approve this message 👍
Replace "music" by "IT" and you get exactly the same thing!
I have some questions about conducting music. Would you care to answer them?
@@blobodep6251 no, u can do it.
when Sergiu Celibidache speaks .. at least we are front so someone who is not restraining his words.
Of course Celibidache is right ! 100 % how many great conductors if we consider Celibidache's criterias ? less than 10 !
Very forthright and shocking interview! Marvelous to hear someone of his stature state his mind, and whatever the fallout---too bad. His opinion of musicians in Denmark is very low. Complacent, incompetent, or insolent players who make ignorant remarks to him. Amazing. His recording of the Ravel Concerto with Michelangeli and the LSO is at the pinnacle of achievement. Also available on youtube.
Even after 10, there is always a number 1...unfortunately.
Vielen dank herr Henrik Engelbrecht. Muchas gracias.
the end is gold and still actual
Fabulous!!
Brilliant! All around!
such a humble fella
A TRUE MASTER
EXCELLENT !!! ❤
One can simultaneously acknowledge the depths of Celibidache's knowledge and ability while noting his arrogant lack of self-awareness. On a certain level, a conductor's primary function is to elicit a group's best effort; when this doesn't happen, it isn't always the conductor's fault, but a truly effective leader will have the humility to think first about what he/she might have done to bring about a better result. A conductor without an orchestra is a mute.
Comprising character makes the world weak
He seems to be incredibly self-aware. If he was not, then he wouldn't be a conductor. There is also a great modesty in this man, if you listen to some of his longer interviews. There is one one here, in French, but with English subtitles, in which his humility comes across very clearly. The man is overawed by the freedom that live music performances can engender. He is the conductor, not the driver, not the composer, not the music, not the occasion, and not the appreciative listener, all of which he views as being potentially far greater than he is. He is like the tutor, in the most basic meaning of the word. The tutor merely leads the student to the subject. The subject then has its effects upon the intelligent student.
This is a reason why he dislikes recordings of himself in performance. A good live performance is always a much greater and liberating experience than a recording. He was really there to conduct the orchestra and the audience, reacting to the situation as it evolved, en route to that freedom. No two performances can be absolutely identical, for that reason, but a recording merely freezes that moment in time, being only a shadow of the performance in which he was only a conduit, and making him the central figure, much against his will.
@@RWBHere Many of us are quite aware of the canonic texts supporting the Celibidache mythology; no need to gish-gallop it here.
I also want to drink like that out of a small green cup.
Bloody hell, bold interviewer to call Celi a dictator to his face! Wish he didn’t interrupt so often too.
He conducted the most ignorant Beethoven 9 that I have ever heard.
The quality of the coffee cups is lower than the critics
I noticed that too 😂
You are a materialist, care for so called "quality of life" bourgeoise matter, he just don't care .
If Conductors not ignorant, the rest of orchestra will be confused and lost.
He is the Man and the Best conductor who take proud of His work. 🌟
Are u a conductor?
@@blobodep6251 I was for 25 years.
Can you plz answer some of my questions about conducting since I want to know more about it. But can we talk somewhere else like discord or anything you prefer?
I'll ask the questions in the comments anyways
1: Are there many conductors in the world? Is their number over 100000? I dont see many probably because my school didn't offer music classes. But my friends and family members who took music classes learned about the piano and violin, so I was wondering how low the number of conductors in the world are.
2: What is the most difficult thing about being a conductor? Is it finding a job or practicing? Or maybe it's some other thing I didn't think about.
3: How do conductors practice? Do they practice by conducting an orchestra only? Is there no other way to practice?
4: Is the number of people aspiring to be conductors decreasing?
Like Haitink, a very great (underrated!) Director of orchestra.
Grazie Henrik, provvedo a farne sottotitoli in italiano. Thanks Henrik, I provide to make it subtitles in Italian.
Raffaele
I remember our lessons as well as your conducting. I recently went to lectures in Berkeley CA about Celibidache and was thinking of you. Mi dai un squillo.
Celibidache, in line to receive the baton from Furtwangler, was passed over in favor of Karajan. But Celibidache's depth of musicianship is exceptional. Engelbrecht is contentious, trying to be provocative, "interesting." Rude.
He doesn’t know what other conductors do, but he knows they’re ignorant and wrong....amazing
you didnt listen clearly then, he stated the ones he DOES know are mostly ignorant 0:50
shows you might be an ignorant too judging by that lack of attention not a single minute into the interview
Yeah, so, he knew a few... since he attended a concert now and then....uh?
Guys, don't panic, with some exceptions, good conductors are quite isolated. They don't have time to see how others are doing things, nor are they too ready to learn from others. They might watch a performance or two, but their main business is spending time with the scores. (Today things look totally different, thanks to youtube).
In my opinion, Celi is great at what he did, but as he had his own (fantastic) approach, he couldn't get too close into what other good conductors were doing.
And generally speaking, don't expect conductors to appreciate one another too much :)
he dont go to the rehearsal with them, only this. What a comment
@@emibala Unfortunately, UA-cam does not show the real picture and the real sound
He's an overrated conductor, dull, boring and thinks he's the best of all
Le estaba creyendo hasta que sacó la jarra verde del café
Celibidache should be asked WHY he thinks conductors are ignorants, WHY are incompetent? Talking about "static way" and "dynamic process" is a bit evasive. And he is very self-confident and even conceited person who not only knows better then others (you obviously have right to have your own view and believe) but sadly he despise some people too.
Simultaneously his musical achievements are unquestionable.
See his UA-cam video on philosophy of music by a french Lady, you will understand completely what he means
Read Nietzsche joyful science, first book, paragraph 24, different dissatisfactions.
Asa este!
Is there more of this?
No, this is the entire interview ...
thank you very much, Henrik. He is the BEST , even when he speaks. What a character..... I love him. Thanks for this treasure!!!
Six thousand pupils is not six thousand musicians! If a pupil has natural
'Musicianship' he/she has the high potential to develop conscious understanding of musical law and become a 'Musician', not just a player!
Six thousand curious people who 'Think' they want to be a conductor usually end up chasing something far less divine than true music. They are put off having to do some real work for a change! And one excuse for giving up is 'I don't understand what he/she is talking about, or I didn't realise you have to actually do some work for this, I thought it was free, not a dream!
A real musician will follow a worthwhile path regardless of the years of suffering before them and not shy away they keep going. It's almost as if they are driven or compleled to never give up!
A person is either awake or asleep!
Learning technique is easy, it becomes purely automatic and repetative no real work is involved. Sleeping people belong to this bracket.
One cannot 'learn' to be a musician. That is a gift bestowed at birth after having given sustained devoted effort in the past.
There are skilled technicians and there are musicians.
Techniqual skill does not produce a musician but a musician has all the techniqual skill neccesary to be a fine player - and a true musician!.
Orchestras are made up of the vast majority of 'Players' and very rarely, with a lot of luck a musician or two.
Celibidache was and still is a fine Musician.
Here endeth the lesson.
Parole sante ! La direzione spesso è affidata a quelli che sono i meno talentuosi tra i musicisti o a persone che ignorano i principi dell'acustica.
Celibidache aveva un concetto della MUSICA troppo elevato per i comuni mortali. Egli deve essere studiato, approfondito, e solo allora potrà essere capito. L'orchestrale medio, non avrà mai questa mentalità, anzi, lo critica aspramente dicendo che è matto. Troppo comodo! Certo, occorre pensare, e pensare è fatica! Chi lo critica, si metta a studiare!!!!!!
I am a fan of Celibidache, but to say that all other conductors are ignorant while admitting that he does not attend concerts is a bit rich. Is he only saying this about the conductors he knows from first hand experience, viz. his students? Isn't that an indictment of his ability to teach?
@@dacianr.2289 musicians in your orchestra are not conductors, you're not even talking about the same thing as the people you're replying to. Do you know how to read?
Gotta love the old European garde....zero fucks given..lol
So he's calling himself a poor teacher, since none of his students have even come close to showing the qualities that he desires? The interviewer nailed him, "but so you still go on teaching?" the only reason is clearly financial since his views are so fatalistic.
Celibidache = Mourinho
Not exactly. Celibidache accomplished things.
Eat that!
Zen buddhist, deep meditation practice was his psicho -spiritual trainning !
Gassho .
i think he is just angry and unsatisfied.
Can one of the people here with alot of knowledge explain what you think he means by most conductors are ignorant? thank you...
He’s projecting his feelings about himself on to others.
He’s explaining that there’s only a very few great conductors, most conductors don’t really know the real meaning of conducting
Actually I think that he meant that most conductors don't know the score (they are focussed on their gestures. Whereas he knew the function of every note in reaching a climax, or creating a certain sound)
@@johannesasfaw but is it true. or it he just arrogant. not everyone likes his conductiong.....i know there are a lot of poor conductors, but at his time there were also about 15 fine ones...
@@eytonshalom I think in the same way that someone who is not a good player might be (justifiably) insecure, he is justifiably arrogant. And his arrogance is not what makes him unique, many conductors (most) are quite arrogant. What makes him unique is how he can finish a Bruckner 4. And that has more to do with knowledge I think.
Another factor is that compared to the other greats of the 20th century Celibidache is much more educated (check out his Wikipedia page compared to others). He studied for ages. For instance Toscanini and Karajan are much more "workers" than "academics" musically speaking if you look at their early life, while with Celi it's the opposite. It's so interesting to hear this reflected in their interpretations too.
Maybe because of this I guess he feels the need to show he is better, his intellectual path adds to his arrogance.
But for me it's justified you know
An apt comparison might be a politician who says "feeling is all in politics" and Celibidache being like someone who studied the details of policy till he was 30 and having great results after that point because of a complex philosophy of how things should work. And then he feels the need to say all the others are stupid basically haha
As you can see from this person's eyes, it is unavoidable that he is too skeptical about the qualitative meaning and value of recording and playback hardware / software by SSL and Neumann's microphone, etc., where the advanced technology of the era has caught up with the art level. It was too dark. The only way to camouflage it is to bring up philosophical theory in front of the media. Especially for Karajan, who caught the trend at that time, the voltage of Ressentiment was always higher than his senior Furtwängler. He would have been content with a transient concert conductor who couldn't do opera, and would have had no choice but to be authoritative within that framework.
This seems to be an underlying and old, old theme... Is the conductor/ symphony relationship democratic? Not should be...is it? He says here, "I don't know what other conductors do."
Different businesses, different cultural landscapes, different money changing hands, different power dynamics, ...case by case analysis, I'm sure, but I'm interested always in this theme. I'm fascinated with this specific relationship..and how it plays out in front of an audience. So many things happening when you go to a performance;)
飲んでるのは、梅こぶ茶ですか？
OBVIOUSLY-Conductors are ..artists in their own right-? He is not going to talk up other conductors, what does he care? he. doesn't .care. It's His art he is passionate about. The interviewer stupidly kept trying for a different.answer. .....From.an.old. school. Romanian. Artist. Lol. Interviewers are also ignorant , serg.
but you know that he was quite disrespectul to his collegues, even to the best of them !
3:43 agressive ignorants... lol!
We also have this problem in France.
Can someone please direct me to a video where Celibidache has something positive (and humble) to say about anything? He was a musical genius but he doesn’t seem very nice to be around. In fact he seems insufferable
Great conductor, but he was certainly wrong about Abbie Conant. That's a blot on his career.
Extremely arrogant
No soporto a los cretinos y arrogantes, a los que se creen en posesión de la verdad absoluta y que están por encima de los demás y este tipo tenía todo eso por toneladas. Para mí la grandeza de una persona está principalmente en su humildad y, para mí, este señor está muy lejos de ella.
Celibidache hat nichts gemerkt, er war völlig verschlossen. Seiner Überzeugung nach war er der einzige Dirigent, der Ahnung hatte.
he's very toxic. Especially when it comes to colleagues, or the modern welfare state
Having standards is not toxic. Having high expectations is also not toxic. Also Most agree that the modern welfare state is The running joke. So your argument is invalid.
Just a bitter man who thinks he is better than all the rest, and nobody ever will understand his ideas.
But a great conductor though.
Think about this. :
Herbert von Karajan (1908-1989)
This larger-than-life character reigned at the helm of the Berlin Philharmonic for 35 years. He was the first classical megastar of the recording era, selling some 200 million records.
------
Celibidache - never sold a record, never approved officially of his work to be recorded.
That's why in every recording of his work is like ALL the public is coughing. :(
One guy is "megastar of the recording era, selling some 200 million records.", the other guy sells none, because he didn't want to.
I believe this shows what a modest person Celibidache was.
His bitterness is because he was truly unsatisfied about the environment. A truly perfectionist. A REAL perfectionist.
A AL I understand him. Pure genius
@@cristic767 Absolutely correct!
@@ladyhawkke7002 I never liked him, especially as he got older. His interpretations are eccentric, to put it mildly. A very capable artist, of course, but totally self-absorbed.
He should learn from the other conductors. They are much better than him
Celibidache avrebbe dovuto dedicarsi all'insegnamento universitario (aveva tre lauree, in matematica, in filosofia e in musicologia) e lasciar perdere il FAR MUSICA, che è cosa ben diversa dalla musicologia............................
ele é um genio
Se Celibidache non avesse FATTO MUSICA, il mondo sarebbe un luogo meno bello da vivere.
that guy is realy ignorant . BTW listen ones to tis recordings without looking at him and you will hear mostly static notes . for music i advice you claudio abbado . celevidache had good thecnic and personality but missed the most important to be able to make music with it .....and OMG was he frustraties and full of hate ..for example towards the great Karajan who celebidache described also as a bad conductor by calling him Coca Cola conductor ...