Of all the known Primarchs, I think for Jagathai, that would be the most out of character. Well, apart from Alpharius Omegon. And Angron. And possibly Ferrus Manus.
@@AxolotlInMC true, but at least Angron gets stories. And Ferrus gets some. And A/O get an army of memes. Honestly, the Khan seems to be the least talked about, just above the 2 exterminated ones
@@patrickpromen3605 Yeah, but it was more of a joke about how each Primarch wants or doesn't want to be recognised, from a character perspective. Khan may not have much lore, but one of his character traits is not seeking recognition, so if he could go meta, he personally would probably not ask for more attention to himself. Not because he wants to avoid it, but because he doesn't need it. Same with Alparius Omegon, he keeps under the radar, or Angron, who doesn't care about tales and legends people speak of him, he just wants to kill and die, or Ferrus, who doesn't have time for similar nonsense, when there is an Imperium to forge.
Who do you think would make the best steak? I think Vulkan would probably burn it with just his body temperature but season it well enough to make up for it. Leman Russ would probably just eat it raw. Khan would probably cook it decently but not use any seasoning
@@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando I mean the Mongol's cooked their meat by placing it between their ass and the horse's back and after a hard day of riding it was cooked. Interpret that how you will.
@SordidusFellatio it's based on a meme version of the scorpion and the frog. After the frog said "we shall both surely drown" the next bit went "Lol" said thr scorpion "Lmao"
@MichaelJohnson-fr8yr To be honest, while reading that, I had a sense that Fulgrim was trying to tease Jaghatai into a friendly banter. But Jaghatai took it a bit too far.
@@bernardbuan6629tbh if anyone makes strange modifications to his ships it would be Vulkan he literally created a brand new class of vessels to better serve the space marines the strike cruiser
Khan instantly became one of my favorites once I read this and his entire interaction between him, Dorn And Sanguinius about fighting to save civilians or staying to defend the palace he literally just looks at Sanguinius and goes K:”Brother do I die in this battle?” S:”I do not know my abilities seem clouded” K”very well if I dont go will these people die” S:”yes” K:”and if I do?” S:”many shall survive” K:”good than I shall save as many as I can for that is what I was made for” (This is a MASSIVE summarized version of the actual interaction pls look it up and read it it’s amazing)
Sanguinius: "You Jaghatai, I have no idea what you truly desire." Fulgrim: "He desires speed, he tricks out his bikes like a fucking maniac" Sanguinius: "Fulgrim, this is not a wise argument to star-" The Khan: "No Sanguinius, let him speak his mind. Since he so freely talks about what he hears and believes of my legion, we should discuss what he does with his" Fulgrim: "What are you-" The Khan: "You take the rich and powerful nobleborn's children, fill them full of your geneseed, then throw them with a lack of reinforcements into a warzone. Sounds to me like you engage in the taboo and then send the victims off to die on what would be a suicide mission for most squads of fresh faces." Fulgrim: "WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME?!" Sanguinius, stifling his laughter: "Brother, this is why I was warning you. You can ask our brother Kurze, but precognition is not exactly under our control all the time and sometimes, listening to those of us who know what could happen is best." The Khan: "Was that truly a vision you had Sanguinius?" Fulgrim: "Obviously he is not lying about that!" Sanguinius, laughing harder: "Oh, I wish I had seen that coming through a dream or a vision, but you walked into that one so blatantly, I thought you might be setting him up so you two can have a battle of wits."
When they square up and boast about their swordsmanship and combat skills, Sanguinius breaks them up and is modest... Because he knew he'd tear them up in a straight fight.
I loved how to see a bunch of Primarchs acting like little kids or, well, rivaling siblings and how Fulgrims tells the Khan that he _might_ come to his Chogoris to fight him in a duell, _if_ the Khan builds a palace where he can dust his armour off.
Its finda unfortunate that Fulgrim just gave a not offensive Jab. A way to possibly bond with your speed freaky distant brother.Mans got flamed for it😂
I don't think it was what was said, but how Fulgrim said it. He was being condescending and looking down on the White Scars and their love for "gotta go fast".
The idea of Sanguinius, the 9 to 10-foot tall near-perfect superhuman warrior with angel wings giggling like a little boy from his brother roasting one of his other brothers is such sibling behavior.😂
Never understood why the entire community uses this moment to show Jaghtai as a cool guy owning arrogant Fulgrim. He complimented his engineering while correctly assessing that he wanted to be left alone, then Jaghtai just nukes him lmao. Like why, why are you being a dick😂
I remember this interaction. It was also when Jaghatai was Empathetic towards Mortarion, telling him that being raised in harsh environments isn’t always worse than being raised in comfort.
Love how everyone assumes that Jagatai is calling Fulgrim a F*g. When he is probably talking about Fabius Bile, Mad Scientist Extraordinaire. AKA the man who makes the TF2 Medic look like a amature and a saint.
Bit late but this is far too early for the khan to be referencing biles body augmentations. The only thing I could think of is that Khan is making fun of Fulgrim for trying to cure his sons of the blight.
I think the funniest shit is that Fulgrim wasn’t even dissing the Khan he was just saying bro is on a different and Jaghatai said “nah I take that shit personal” and had to deliver one of the harshest roasts in the franchise
Why is everybody cheering for Khan again? Isn't he just making fun of Fulgrim's kids for having space cancer when Fulgrim just made a remark about his engineering choices being kinda good?
@@somerandommen What were the weird things he did to his ships that made it racist? I am not that read up on the lore of Khan, but not so much about Fulgrim as well to remember where his kids got the space cancer.
@@MMAHypeWatch Both Russ and the Khan (along with their legion and cultures) were considered barbaric by their brothers. Fulgrim was being snide, his comment about Chogorian engineering wasn't genuine, he was being sarcastic.
Khan doesn't take centerstage often, and I don't think he needs to. His calm demeanor and simple wisdom means he's better off speaking less. Few words, but they have a lot of weight.
Yup. "Your kids have space cancer and you care enough to try to save them, meta gay joke for the reader" "HAHAHA PWND WHAT A GIGACHAD" -the 40k community, fucking somehow
@@cl34ve Honestly it's one of the Khan's worst moments making him look like a petty child but so many people hold it up as this badass moment and it just baffles me.
@@somerandommen it is not, the Emperor's children haven't done anything incestuous (which they aren't even post fall) and they have not started any experiments on Astartes by this point. He could literally only be talking about the blight.
"jaghatai likes to ride bikes around, i heard he is also modifying his ships in a strange way" "u gay " seriously that roast came out of nowhere. savage as hell.
When your brother remarks that your ships dont fit the status quo so you bring up the fact that his children are dying of super cancer, truly a Jaghatai Khan moment
Part of me feels like the Heresy wouldn’t have happened at all if Jaghatai was found first and treated as the greatest. Man had more of a head on his shoulders than even Robute. He knew what an empire of a million worlds should look like.
If that happened, he wouldn't have been on Chogoris long which would cut down his experience and wisdom to that of Horus. A thing I think most people forget, is that most of the grounded primarchs were the ones that integrated truly into the society of their crashed planets and united the various societies. I would maybe agree with your point if you said that the Khan was found first, but only after conquering Chogoris. Then maybe, just maybe, we would have seen a very different universe.
Are you serious or playing stupid? The Khan hated the Imperium, the Emperor, walls, civilization, beurocracy, obligations and building things. He's literally the 2nd worst Primarch for that, with the first being Angron
@@vladimirthegreen6097 he was a uniter of different values and an arbitrator between various factions of his people. He understood that there was value in non seditious differences of opinion and is based on the single largest continuous empire builder in history. A lot of the problems the Imperium of man currently faces stems from the Emperor’s total mental and emotional inflexibility. The Khan did not have that problem and would have been a much better role model for his various brothers and those founding the imperium than Horus was.
Fulgrim: "I wonder of the two of us who would win in a figh-" Khan: "Me." Fulgrim: "..." Khan: "And it wouldn't even be close." Fulgrim: "What makes you so sure?" Khan: "You boast so much, that I know everything can do, and you know nothing I can do. And brother... I'm not trying to boast, just being honest when I say... I would fucking ruin you.""
Your forgetting in the same meeting it boils down to them asking who would beat who in a straight fight. Fulgrim thinks he is slick but the Khan tells him that he would lose against him. Fulgrim replies asking why. The khan tells him plainly, "I would take the fight seriously"
This wasn't the Khan counter roasting. This was just the Khan being an absolute dickwad. Fulgrim: i hear you put extra nitro on your bikes- Khan: your sons have cancer, lol
Fulgrim had been doing all kinds of strange things to his soldiers in his search for perfection. I think he meant the genetic tempering that was going on even for some time before Fulgrims fall to chaos. But Fulgrim was also prone to sacrifice Soldiers for vanitys sake. Of cause the ambiguity is intentional.
Question. Does anyone think the Khan's jab was warranted? Not saying it wasn't good. Just if it was warranted, since Fulgrim was giving a compliment...I think
Well I maybe still new to the lore and warhammer in general, what I’ve learned of the khan so far is while he understands the importance of having a personality he doesn’t like to socialize or rather he doesn’t take jokes well at all
It was, Fulgrim was tinkering where he shouldn’t, the Khan was letting him know, A. It wasn’t as secret as he thought it was, B. Knock it off before some bad shit happens. The Khan was giving him a fair warning.
It was absolutely not. Even if Jaghatai is my favorite primarch, and Fulgrim was being a bitch, because that seems to be 80% of his personality in the HH, in this case he just tried what ever was necessary to save his sons from a slow and painful death due to malfunctioning gene seed. Giving someone shit for that is like telling a cancer patient that "It couldn't be me, my immune system is to strong, lol"
Jaghatai was friends with a lot of the traitor Primarchs, surprisingly. It's part of the reason why Malcador and the Emperor were surprised that he joined their side.
I love that they showed the angel side of sanguinius this way. In so many situations the way he shows his Angel and not Fury killing death bringer rage monster side is by diffusing tension. Through just simple human acts like laughing and making something an obvious joke amongst brothers or just saying a nice thing to his brothers as a brother in the Main strategium on terra when the siege fell. Love that little detail
"Jaghatai, what do you most desire?"
"I desire... more screen time."
Of all the known Primarchs, I think for Jagathai, that would be the most out of character.
Well, apart from Alpharius Omegon. And Angron. And possibly Ferrus Manus.
@@AxolotlInMC true, but at least Angron gets stories. And Ferrus gets some. And A/O get an army of memes. Honestly, the Khan seems to be the least talked about, just above the 2 exterminated ones
@@patrickpromen3605 Yeah, but it was more of a joke about how each Primarch wants or doesn't want to be recognised, from a character perspective. Khan may not have much lore, but one of his character traits is not seeking recognition, so if he could go meta, he personally would probably not ask for more attention to himself. Not because he wants to avoid it, but because he doesn't need it. Same with Alparius Omegon, he keeps under the radar, or Angron, who doesn't care about tales and legends people speak of him, he just wants to kill and die, or Ferrus, who doesn't have time for similar nonsense, when there is an Imperium to forge.
@@AxolotlInMC lol ironically, Lion El'jonson would fit there as well. You know, one of the most written about characters?
@@AxolotlInMC Who's this "Alpharius Omegon"?
Horus may have been war master, but the Khan was roast master.
No, that's Vulkan. Stomp stomp.
Who do you think would make the best steak? I think Vulkan would probably burn it with just his body temperature but season it well enough to make up for it. Leman Russ would probably just eat it raw. Khan would probably cook it decently but not use any seasoning
@@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrando I mean the Mongol's cooked their meat by placing it between their ass and the horse's back and after a hard day of riding it was cooked. Interpret that how you will.
@@DefinitelyFroggyDioBrandoit's Russ bud Leman Russ
@@Tom-bi7ir yeah leman russ, thanks
"Embarrassed schoolgirl" will forever be my newest Insult to Fulgrim lmfao
Imagine fem fulgrim as schoolgirl
@@darthjekyll3648there is an entire barrage of space rocks rapidly flying towards your current location
@@vexingbrat8605 DA ORK BOIS AR HERE
"I hear you do strange things to your Soldiers"
Now I wonder what schoolgirls wear in the setting. Something tells me the anime miniskirt is frowned upon in the Imperium.
Lets not pretend Morty wasn't eavesdropping on that conversation.
He thinkin to himself on how Jaghatai's roast burned hotter than Phospex
He was probably making a laundry list of insults to use against Fullgrum later.
@@blizzardgaming7070 Dunking on Fulgrim is now my new favorite past time
Mortarion was that meme of kid smoking the bong while the two girls fight
Vulkan: Did someone say roast?
Aeldari child: *NONONONONO*
(Btw the only reason I say aeldari instead of eldar is bcs I heard it helps get a aeldari girlfriend or something)
"Lol, lmao" - Sanguinius
That's why he's the best primarch
He can see the future, which means he knew how that conversation would end up.
Our wholesome Primarch😂
@SordidusFellatio it's based on a meme version of the scorpion and the frog. After the frog said "we shall both surely drown" the next bit went "Lol" said thr scorpion "Lmao"
@insertedgynamehere "Lul. Lmao."- Kharn The Betrayer
Khan channeling the ancient asian blood within him to deliver maximum emotional damage
The emperor using some Uncle Roger dna when making Khan's gene seed.
Uncle Roger... Steven He... why not both?
Khan giving hiyah energy too Horus during the heresy when?
Mongolian*
@@captainlongdik8724Uh, Mongolia is in Asia.
Don't take a swing if you can't take one back.
Hahaha.
Facts
I dont think it was even a swing. lol, Fulgrim was just making a statement.
@MichaelJohnson-fr8yr To be honest, while reading that, I had a sense that Fulgrim was trying to tease Jaghatai into a friendly banter. But Jaghatai took it a bit too far.
@@bernardbuan6629tbh if anyone makes strange modifications to his ships it would be Vulkan he literally created a brand new class of vessels to better serve the space marines the strike cruiser
Take a swing? Figuratively speaking, Fulgrim waved hi and Jaghatai decked him lmao
Roboute: *breaks door
"Jaghatai. A word if you would..."
Dorn, from down the hallway: Hey! I just finished putting that newly fortified door there after Angron broke the old one! Darn it, Gorillaman
Vulkan: Is it about that roast he gave Fulgrim?
Absolute genius from DreadAnon
What is this a reference too I have seen this around a few times?
@@Renfrost_x_JetstreamRen38 Peter Turbo: I could have built a much better door than that knobhead Dornald Duck
Khan instantly became one of my favorites once I read this and his entire interaction between him, Dorn And Sanguinius about fighting to save civilians or staying to defend the palace he literally just looks at Sanguinius and goes
K:”Brother do I die in this battle?”
S:”I do not know my abilities seem clouded”
K”very well if I dont go will these people die”
S:”yes”
K:”and if I do?”
S:”many shall survive”
K:”good than I shall save as many as I can for that is what I was made for”
(This is a MASSIVE summarized version of the actual interaction pls look it up and read it it’s amazing)
So you are telling me Jaghatai Khan has massive 20 kilogram balls made from harden Adamantium
@@lukasperuzovic1429He has a little red jet wagon he uses to carry them around.
Amazing.. what's the book?
the second siege of terra book. Lost and Damned was it called @@GaIvatr0n
Vulkan is the best primark
though my favorite chapter are the lamenters and the imperial fist
Morty silently watched, eating popcorn
“This shit’s more entertaining than torturing my adopted dad’s soul for eternity.”
- Mortarion, M32
* vapes quietly in the corner*
BURNT popcorn
Fulgrim: “You mod your bike”
Jaghatai: “You touch kids”
Angron from across the hall: "YOU BOTH SUCK!" and then starts an arm wrestling match with Leman Russ
Khan, sitting in the back of the classroom: "Ha! Gaaaaay!"
Love scenes like this where we can see these larger than life characters sit & have a candid conversation
Yeah. I love those scenes.
One scene is just sanguinius throwing fruit at Horus and telling him to relax
Sanguinious is the best boy and to pure for that world
Pure 😂? Tell that to every blood angel and victim of the black rage or red thirst.
@@adriananic8258he just need some rest
@@mattiac9167 guilliman does. Not sanguinius
Tell that to the planet he genocided because the ruling class said no.
Just one planet? I expected more. @@starhammer5247
Sanguinius: "You Jaghatai, I have no idea what you truly desire."
Fulgrim: "He desires speed, he tricks out his bikes like a fucking maniac"
Sanguinius: "Fulgrim, this is not a wise argument to star-"
The Khan: "No Sanguinius, let him speak his mind. Since he so freely talks about what he hears and believes of my legion, we should discuss what he does with his"
Fulgrim: "What are you-"
The Khan: "You take the rich and powerful nobleborn's children, fill them full of your geneseed, then throw them with a lack of reinforcements into a warzone. Sounds to me like you engage in the taboo and then send the victims off to die on what would be a suicide mission for most squads of fresh faces."
Fulgrim: "WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST SAY TO ME?!"
Sanguinius, stifling his laughter: "Brother, this is why I was warning you. You can ask our brother Kurze, but precognition is not exactly under our control all the time and sometimes, listening to those of us who know what could happen is best."
The Khan: "Was that truly a vision you had Sanguinius?"
Fulgrim: "Obviously he is not lying about that!"
Sanguinius, laughing harder: "Oh, I wish I had seen that coming through a dream or a vision, but you walked into that one so blatantly, I thought you might be setting him up so you two can have a battle of wits."
“haha, you go quite overboard with your bike mods, don’t you think 😄”
“You’re sons have space cancer🗿”
What Dorn wants, Lego.
What Roboute wants, a blue calculator.
A blue calculator... and some xenussies
Roboute: "AstartesAnonymous!!, a word if you would"
What do you mean??
@@rocketlauncher6207popular video about that moment. Very funny one tbh
What is this a reference too I have seen this around a few times?
@@daedricender7276 "Homophobic Jaghatai" is the name of DreadAnon's video they are referencing
@@OMNISSIAH-VERY-GREAT thanks
So this is where it comes from. The fact that it’s a canon response makes it all better lmao
Roboute emerge from HR : "JAGATHAI, A WORD IF YOU WOULD"
"Fuck you Roboute, you blueballed boyscout-ass goody-two-shoes BITCH"
- Jaghatai or something probably i don't know
What is this a reference too I have seen this around a few times?
@@daedricender7276DreadAnon’s “Homophobic Jaghatai”
You have no idea how much I want the Khan to be next to return
Same. Been playing WS since 3rd edition.
Horus may be the war master, but Jaghatai is a god damn CHEF with that!
When they square up and boast about their swordsmanship and combat skills, Sanguinius breaks them up and is modest... Because he knew he'd tear them up in a straight fight.
*rowboat kicks the door down*
Jagatai, *a word if you would..*
"I geard you do strange things to your ships"
"FA-"
I loved how to see a bunch of Primarchs acting like little kids or, well, rivaling siblings and how Fulgrims tells the Khan that he _might_ come to his Chogoris to fight him in a duell, _if_ the Khan builds a palace where he can dust his armour off.
He was not only quick on his feet, but quick with his remarks.
Why is fulgrim always giving that zesty ahh stare in his artwork lmao 😂
I love every interaction between sang and the khan it always leads to an epic line this is just more proof
Its finda unfortunate that Fulgrim just gave a not offensive Jab. A way to possibly bond with your speed freaky distant brother.Mans got flamed for it😂
Yeah, I don’t even get it
If anything, it sounded like a backhanded compliment- if not just a regular compliment
@@newtybot Exactly. And the Emperor's Children went through a lot at this point stabilizing their gene seed.
I don't think it was what was said, but how Fulgrim said it. He was being condescending and looking down on the White Scars and their love for "gotta go fast".
@@Scudboy17 Nothing in this snippet, nor the full conversation hints towards that😂
@@ironduke5058it's Fulgrim, Condescension is his Thing as a perfectionist,
id love to see this scene as if it was in a movie
The idea of Sanguinius, the 9 to 10-foot tall near-perfect superhuman warrior with angel wings giggling like a little boy from his brother roasting one of his other brothers is such sibling behavior.😂
"Hey I heard you boost your bikes"
"I heard you diddle you kids"
*_?????_*
I take it as "diddling your bikes".
@@O-OO1-O how does someone even do that? Like you would have to be more acrobatic than the harlequins to bend that far
He's actually making fun of the Blight the cancer that nearly destroyed the 3rd legion.
Never understood why the entire community uses this moment to show Jaghtai as a cool guy owning arrogant Fulgrim. He complimented his engineering while correctly assessing that he wanted to be left alone, then Jaghtai just nukes him lmao. Like why, why are you being a dick😂
@@O-OO1-OThe insult was perceived, that's not what Fulgrim meant at all. He was just saying he has cool ships and bikes
“I hear you do strange things to your warriors.” - Jagahtai Khan to Fulgrim.
🚨🚨🚨
**Robotits girly man kick door open**
Jhagatai, A word if you would
I remember this interaction. It was also when Jaghatai was Empathetic towards Mortarion, telling him that being raised in harsh environments isn’t always worse than being raised in comfort.
Love how everyone assumes that Jagatai is calling Fulgrim a F*g. When he is probably talking about Fabius Bile, Mad Scientist Extraordinaire. AKA the man who makes the TF2 Medic look like a amature and a saint.
Porque no los dos?
Bit late but this is far too early for the khan to be referencing biles body augmentations. The only thing I could think of is that Khan is making fun of Fulgrim for trying to cure his sons of the blight.
I can only imagine Fulgrim burning even more with rage when Sanguinius, laughing with that angelic face of his, at his burn by the Khagan
Big E, through the Warp: "BOYS, PLAY NICE"
Fulgrim essentially saying Jag tunes his machines better.
Jag calls him a queer.
Fulgrim is rightfully upset
The Khan didn't call him gay. He was imply father-son relations
Fulgrim: Khan likes going fast and dirty with his sons
Khan: At least when I am with my sons, Sweet home alabama doesn't randomly start playing
Jaghatais Vs Mortarion in The Siege of Terra series will forever be the greatest continuous roast i've ever read.
bro complimented his engineering while correctly guessing he wanted to be left alone and jaghatai just flames him 😂
"Haha youre ships are strange😜"
"Your sons have cancer 🗿"
Even though I love seeing Fulgrim put down, that was super out of pocket and kind-of uncalled for lol.
I think the funniest shit is that Fulgrim wasn’t even dissing the Khan he was just saying bro is on a different and Jaghatai said “nah I take that shit personal” and had to deliver one of the harshest roasts in the franchise
Why is everybody cheering for Khan again? Isn't he just making fun of Fulgrim's kids for having space cancer when Fulgrim just made a remark about his engineering choices being kinda good?
Fulgrim was being racist. The Khan simply foreshadowed Fulgrim's special "relationship" to his sons.
@@somerandommen What were the weird things he did to his ships that made it racist? I am not that read up on the lore of Khan, but not so much about Fulgrim as well to remember where his kids got the space cancer.
@@MMAHypeWatch Both Russ and the Khan (along with their legion and cultures) were considered barbaric by their brothers. Fulgrim was being snide, his comment about Chogorian engineering wasn't genuine, he was being sarcastic.
Sanguinious really just wanted to be with his family literally just a pure soul
"Oh egads! My roast is ruined!" -Fulgrim
That whole conversation is one of my favorite scenes in W40/30k.
Khan doesn't take centerstage often, and I don't think he needs to. His calm demeanor and simple wisdom means he's better off speaking less. Few words, but they have a lot of weight.
And that's how his villain arc actually started
Vulkan: “That burns hotter than our flamers and melta guns.”
Ah yes the time Khan made fun of Fulgrim's kids having space cancer...
Yup. "Your kids have space cancer and you care enough to try to save them, meta gay joke for the reader"
"HAHAHA PWND WHAT A GIGACHAD" -the 40k community, fucking somehow
@@cl34ve Honestly it's one of the Khan's worst moments making him look like a petty child but so many people hold it up as this badass moment and it just baffles me.
@@cl34veThe joke isn't a meta joke about being gay, it's meta foreshadowing to the Emperor's Children being implied to be inc*stuous.
@@somerandommen it is not, the Emperor's children haven't done anything incestuous (which they aren't even post fall) and they have not started any experiments on Astartes by this point.
He could literally only be talking about the blight.
“JAGHATAI!!!….a word if you will”.
Sanguinius : "uuu you're in a big trouble"
The Khan was then summoned shortly after to Imperial HR
"jaghatai likes to ride bikes around, i heard he is also modifying his ships in a strange way"
"u gay "
seriously that roast came out of nowhere. savage as hell.
"Somewhere between an embarrassed schoolgirl and a feral animal"
That sounds like Fulgrim alright.
When your brother remarks that your ships dont fit the status quo so you bring up the fact that his children are dying of super cancer, truly a Jaghatai Khan moment
I don't know why but this interaction really makes the primarchs sounds like brothers bickering with eachother.
Part of me feels like the Heresy wouldn’t have happened at all if Jaghatai was found first and treated as the greatest.
Man had more of a head on his shoulders than even Robute. He knew what an empire of a million worlds should look like.
If that happened, he wouldn't have been on Chogoris long which would cut down his experience and wisdom to that of Horus. A thing I think most people forget, is that most of the grounded primarchs were the ones that integrated truly into the society of their crashed planets and united the various societies.
I would maybe agree with your point if you said that the Khan was found first, but only after conquering Chogoris. Then maybe, just maybe, we would have seen a very different universe.
He not empire buildee. He is barbarians and empire destroyer
Are you serious or playing stupid? The Khan hated the Imperium, the Emperor, walls, civilization, beurocracy, obligations and building things. He's literally the 2nd worst Primarch for that, with the first being Angron
@@ironduke5058 he is the second best
@@vladimirthegreen6097 he was a uniter of different values and an arbitrator between various factions of his people. He understood that there was value in non seditious differences of opinion and is based on the single largest continuous empire builder in history.
A lot of the problems the Imperium of man currently faces stems from the Emperor’s total mental and emotional inflexibility. The Khan did not have that problem and would have been a much better role model for his various brothers and those founding the imperium than Horus was.
Fulgrim: "I wonder of the two of us who would win in a figh-"
Khan: "Me."
Fulgrim: "..."
Khan: "And it wouldn't even be close."
Fulgrim: "What makes you so sure?"
Khan: "You boast so much, that I know everything can do, and you know nothing I can do. And brother... I'm not trying to boast, just being honest when I say... I would fucking ruin you.""
I like to believe that it was akward silencw, broken by Sanguinius laughing uncontrollably
Proof that Sanguinius was a real one. 😂
Guilliman bursts into the room
JAGHATAI. A word if you would
I love listening to Fulgrim getting humbled.
Weakest Jaghatai moment:
Your forgetting in the same meeting it boils down to them asking who would beat who in a straight fight. Fulgrim thinks he is slick but the Khan tells him that he would lose against him. Fulgrim replies asking why. The khan tells him plainly, "I would take the fight seriously"
"I heard you do strange thing to your warrior"
- Jaghatai Khan
Holy sh*t, that’s almost worse than Rylanor.
Imagine Fulgrim wasn't trying to be an asshole here and just wanted to make conversation.
Khan was definitely the asshole in this situation
My face when I heard that life-ending comeback: ö
The sad thing about the 3rd Legion & Fulgrim
Is they were already perfect before there turn to the ruinous powers.
And this should have been way before the enhancement experiments. The strange things might well be just Fabius trying to cure the legions space cancer
The un natural history channel lets goooooo
This wasn't the Khan counter roasting. This was just the Khan being an absolute dickwad.
Fulgrim: i hear you put extra nitro on your bikes-
Khan: your sons have cancer, lol
Fulgrim: I heard the tech priests are puzzled by your tuning
Khan: *f slur*
That's a hilarious thought
Fulgrim had been doing all kinds of strange things to his soldiers in his search for perfection. I think he meant the genetic tempering that was going on even for some time before Fulgrims fall to chaos. But Fulgrim was also prone to sacrifice Soldiers for vanitys sake. Of cause the ambiguity is intentional.
I guess being able to absolutely outroast anyone either literally or figuratively, is a core skill for any true Khan.
Vulkan: *HEY I DIDN’T HEAR THE INSULT, WHAT WAS IT*
RIP Sanguinius. He was truly an Angel of the Emperor
Fulgrim: I hear you do odd things to your ships
Jaghatai: I hear your men pound your tuna
Sanguineous: Heh he he he HA HA HA HA!!!!
Mah boi slick with the comeback...
Fulgrim:
"I heard you do strange things to your bikes."
Khan:
"And I heard you do strange things to your *WARRIORS."*
*DOOR SLAMS OPEN*
GILLIMAN: "JAGHATAI, A WORD IF YOU WILL"
Even the wit of The White Scars is lightning fast...
I openly went GOD DAMN and accidentally scared the shit out of my dog 😂
Ehmm... What did he mean? This was way before Fulgrim got into weird stuff.
Hes referring to Fulgrim trying to cure his sons of their gene blight, which is super messed up.
Mortarion: "..."
Vulcan: (HE FRICKIN' DID NOT JUST SAY THAT!!)
Sanguinius: "LMAO"
Sanguinius just cackling is the greatest thing ever.
Sanguinius: hahahahahah wutcha gonna do 'bout it??? "Then stares menacingly"
Question. Does anyone think the Khan's jab was warranted? Not saying it wasn't good. Just if it was warranted, since Fulgrim was giving a compliment...I think
Well I maybe still new to the lore and warhammer in general, what I’ve learned of the khan so far is while he understands the importance of having a personality he doesn’t like to socialize or rather he doesn’t take jokes well at all
It was, Fulgrim was tinkering where he shouldn’t, the Khan was letting him know, A. It wasn’t as secret as he thought it was, B. Knock it off before some bad shit happens.
The Khan was giving him a fair warning.
@@linkdancer3890 Bingo
It was absolutely not. Even if Jaghatai is my favorite primarch, and Fulgrim was being a bitch, because that seems to be 80% of his personality in the HH, in this case he just tried what ever was necessary to save his sons from a slow and painful death due to malfunctioning gene seed. Giving someone shit for that is like telling a cancer patient that "It couldn't be me, my immune system is to strong, lol"
Jaghatai is be far the smartest primarch because he wants nothing to do with the others
Considering what happened to the others I don’t blame him!
He had a couple of good chats with Sanguinius, when nobody was interrupting.
@@cassandrabelyeu2419 true but sanguinius is the best and everyone loves him
@@kingof-bunz6506 Absolutely true. ❤
Jaghatai was friends with a lot of the traitor Primarchs, surprisingly. It's part of the reason why Malcador and the Emperor were surprised that he joined their side.
I love that they showed the angel side of sanguinius this way. In so many situations the way he shows his Angel and not Fury killing death bringer rage monster side is by diffusing tension. Through just simple human acts like laughing and making something an obvious joke amongst brothers or just saying a nice thing to his brothers as a brother in the Main strategium on terra when the siege fell. Love that little detail
Basically the Khan just said "oh yeah? You're gay!"
And that's how Fulgrim fell to chaos
Fulgrim wasn't able to react 💀 Khan got his silly ahh real good ☝️🔥
Khan *Takes off mask*
Fulgrim: Chris Hanson again?!
Damn, that burned as much as the emperor's sword 😂
I can imagine this was a random conversation that happened at the backseat of the imperium's flagship
Remember the weird augmentations they where makeing and using pre heresy?
That's what he means
I heard you mess with yo ride
I heard you mess with yo kids
Even Vulcan felt that krisp burn😂😂